where the pope's motorcade is arriving, we'll to get that in a second. jennifer, yeah, there are the pictures. the pope's motorcade has arrived at atlantic aviation. the vice president is there. we are expecting to hear remarks from the pope. but let me go back to you, jennifer. this argentinian family and i understand a syrian family, as well got the chance to meet the pope. such an incredible journey this family took all the way to get here. it's an amazing story. can you talk more about their motivation. >> reporter: they told me that they had been planning to take road trip with their children in the summer. and they were trying to figure out if they may go to europe or maybe they would travel in south america as we know they are from argentina and then when we realized that the --

>> well, unfortunately it looks like we had some difficulty with our shot with jennifer, we'll try get back to general officer in a second. the activity has moved from the center of philadelphia out to the airport. as we said, the pope is scheduled to lift of off. wheels up at about 8:00 eastern time think but he is going to meet with some dignitaries out at the airport before he says a few words and said goodbye to the united states. >> especially johned byen and the bride en family. vice presidented by end the first catholic vice president catholic. and someone whose faith has been very important to him especially in in time of grief and mourning for his family with the loss of his son bow. bo. he opened up a few weeks ago to steven colbert about his faith and how important it is in his life. spoke very much from the heart.

very much about the struggle of faith, the journey of faith. doubts as well as times of feeling support from it. we know the pope will be moving whim as well as the archbishop from here that has arranged the thing as well as other dignitaries. >> biden has already seen him when he was spagle to go congress he was sitting there with him. it's interesting that biden is the one to see him off. i spicks it was something important forked by tone do to see the pope. i am sure sure the pope has given him an enormous amount of comfort given the grief that he has been experiencing, that the whole family has. >> i wonder if i would even think about talk to this people

about whether he should run or not. >> that's a very interesting question. >> not dirk mean, it may be that he is looking for some kind of guidance. i don't know. but -- it would semen likely, but eerpd, h on the other hand,t say your holiness is this what i am called to do. >> he's an approachable coach. he met with speaker boehner this week and something significant happened there. >> do you think he said to boehner step down? [ laughter ] >> the program has begun inside let's listen. >> okay. >> this is the arc archbishop. >> mrs. donna callly farrell the executive director of the world meeting of families. leadership of the cochair of the world meeting of family. arch wish you would paglia and his great staff and the work of so many others. please keep them and all of news your prayers. we especially ask you, holy father, to bless these wonderful people that made the event

happen. we want you to know once again, that the hearts of the people of the city of brotherly love, are with you. we hate to see you leave. we are so grateful that you came to our home, philadelphia. [applause] >> mr. vice president, distinguished authorities, my bishops, dear friends, my days

with you have been brief. but they have been days of great, grace for me and i pray for you too. please now. [ inaudible ] as i prepare to leave i do so with a heart full of gratitude and hope. i am grateful to all of you and to the many others who worked so hard to make my visit possible. and to prepare for the warm meeting of familie families in a

particular way i thank the archdiocese of philadelphia. the authorities, the organizers and ale o all the many volunteed benefactors who assisted in ways large and small. [applause] >> i also thank the families who shared, they witnessed during the meeting. it is not so easy to speak openly of one's life challenges. but there ar their honesty and y before the lord and each of us showed the beautiful of family life in all its richness and

diversity. i pray that our days of reflection on the importance of the family for our society will inspire families to continue to strive for holiness and to see the church as their constant companion in the challenges that they might face. at the end of my visit, i would also like to thank all those who prepare for my visit in the archdiocese in washington and new york. it was particularly moving for me to canonize serra who reminds

us all o all of the mission of missionaries. and i was also so very moved to stand with my brothers and sisters of other religions at ground zero. that place with speaks so powerfully of the misery of evil. yet we know with certainty that evil never has the last word. [applause] >> that in god's merciful plan

love and peace triumph overall. mr. vice president, i ask you to renew my gratitude to president obama. and to the members of congress together they have assurance of my prayers for the american people. this land has been blessed with tremendous gifts and opportunities. i pray that you may be all be good and generous stalwarts of the human and material resources eentrusted to you. i thank you all that i was able to witness the faith of god's

people in this country. asman fest in our moments of prayer together and evidenced in so many works of charity. year us says in the scriptures, truly i say to you as unity to one of the least of the inning of my brother, you did it for me. you. [ inaudible ] generous welcome are a sign of your love for jesus and for your faithfulness to him. so too you care for the poor, the sick, the homeless and the

immigrant. your defense of life at every stage and your concern for family life. [applause] in only honor of this it, -- in honor of this, you recognize that jesus is in your midst and that you care for one another as you care for jesus himself. as i leave, i ask all of you, especially the volunteers and bebenefactors who assisted with the world meeting of families do not let your enthusiasm for jesus, his charge of families and the brother family of

society dry. may our days together bear fruit that will last, general ross ifd care for others that we endure just as we have received so much from what gift freely has given us and not for our making so let us forgive to others in return. dear friends, i embrace all of you in the lord. and i entrust you to the maternal care of mary patron of the united states. i will pray for you and your families. and i ask you please to pray for

me. may god bless you all. god bless america. [cheering and applause] >> god bless america the final words we'll probably hear from the pope before he steps to that airplane i just wonder as i watched him there how tired he is. >> i was saying earlier that his english was gotten a little less good in the last day. >> when gets tired. >> when gets tired. i know if i go to a foreign country i try to speak a language i am exhausted and i can't remember anything. so it was -- his english was pretty good when he first started out in washington.

but he's just clearly exhausted and wouldn't you be? i am exhausted just watching him on television and everything. >> the pope giving final blessing to the folks. and we are told that he is now going to have a private meeting with vice president biden before he gets onto the plane, you were talking about the fact, patrick, that he's ahead of schedule right now. >> he is. >> and i guess if you are the pope and it's time to leave, you know, it's time to leave. and my goodness, it's not like he didn't accomplish a great deal while he was here. >> that's absolutely right, john. this final day, this is a tremendous day for the pope. he started off with victims of clergy sex abuse, he spoke with bishops from all around the world who have been visiting here. by the way, speaking of people who have had a long week, monsignor mark miles the pope's englishing translator right behind him here, he has earned his pay this week as well. >> he's really given the pope an english voice, not that the pope haven't been able to do a great

job with english himself. it's hard if you dong spring the language you struggle very hard to convey your message. but this monsignor is -- >> he's done a remarkable job. i was reading an interview with him. it was one line long, he said i don't think i am very interesting. [ laughter ] >> so he's managed to be both present and not the center of attention the entire time. he's been able to let the pope speak in english and make a connection with the audiences. i think if the final analysis i would say this pope connects to people in nonverbal ways just as match as in verbal ways. it's the touch. it's the hand on someone's head. it's the picking up of the baby. it's the meeting the inmate at the prison this morning. >> also the sense of humor. the pope has a great sense of humor. and you see the sort of rye smile on his way faze and you know he may be ready to crack a joke, he was crack a joke about mother although nba laws last

week. he hayes great -- clearly has a great sense of humor. patience. i was taught by buy the contact lick nuns that patience say virtue and this nun has patience. >> trans lathe is rule hard. i mean, you are speaking in two different languages and it's mentally exhausting thing to do. and for this guy to be with him all this time, well, the pope is doing it too, but for this guy to be with him, translating his worst and he goes off message and script so you are not sure what he is going to say half the time. it was 25, 30 minutes off the cuff ver fiery and the monsignos with him the whole time. >> other part as you watch him work this rope line there are 15

minutes that they have set aside for him to do that. we have been watching it together. it seems like there is almost never a time where he rushes through the crowd. where he is trying you know to get through quicker. he gives each person the feeling and the sense of attention that he thinks they deserve. and you know, i think that's pretty -- that in itself is pretty remarkable. >> there is something truly remarkable. someone said to me last night who is very wise, what the pope is doing is not just bringing a message but teaching by example. he wants to show everyone else who is in the business of the catholic church, priests, bishops, lay people, maybe even professors of theology like me, if the pope can take a minute to meet with each individual person, that makes me think twice about rushing about my business without stopping and talking to the folks that i run in to. and so it's about setting an example. and about teaching by means of that example. >> if i were a politician

running for the presidency right now, i would be watching pope tapes the way football players watch football tapes. to try to learn what he's doing. because what you can see is there is an authenticity about him. a genuineness. you can see all the candidates being you know when they are bored, rushing through something, when it's a fake smile, thank you very much. thank you. and but you get a sense that he is really happy to see each person he is talking to. that he really cares about them. >> he dives in to the crowd. >> yeah. >> look at him there. he -- this is the other thing that we talked about this morning. as we were coming in to this area, this is very different from the president. this is very different from presidential candidates. secret service is much more strict. and keeps the candidate, you know, never -- almost never allows a candidate to get so close that he is surrounded by

people. >> reporter: even in a crowd that's been screened. even in a crowd that's friendly. and as you saw today, in the prison, where he was surrounded by prisoners, or for prisoners families, or as he did -- as he's doing here, he just dives in to the crowd. and there is a calmness, this security delegation around him, they know how he acts, they know how he performs and they follow him. >> look, he's taking time to kiss people. the expression on his face is that he is really happy to see them. and i don't know why. [ laughter ] >> i want to make a suggestion. >> i would be so desperate to get on that plane. >> by the way, chris, is there sound, can we hear just what it sound like in the room? i didn't know if there was -- whether the folks were applauding or whether it's very quiet, very peace. sounds very quiet. and peaceful. what were you saying?

>> look just how happy he is. i think i have an answer to sally quinn's question, why he looks so happy. i think he thinks, he truly believes that he is meeting god in each of these people. there is something that i can't underscore enough. this wok pope say jesuit, he's e first jesuit pope. the founder of the jesuit said he wanted his men in this order of priests to be inning different. to be the same, whether the thee with a king are a popper, a sick person a healthy person. >> or a pitc rich person. >> and there are some in that crowd. >> that probably is probably a mix of all of those things, because ignatius said god is in earn. this pope has giving this entire country a master class in what it is to be a jesuit and practice jesuit spirituality. it's a remarkable example of the sorts of things, not to brag, but we try to and strive to

teach our students at fordham. this is so familiar to anyone familiar with jesuit education it's remarkable. >> you do see that the crowds and the way they were talking, they have picked up on this. they are kind of trying to emulate it. they were saying, you know, people were hugging each other and they were taking care of each other's children and everything. they are trying to be like the pope. there is something that is compelling about the way he behaves that makes you want to be a better person. >> i think the people is trying to be like jesus. so if they are trying to be like the pope and the pope is trying to be like jesus that works out really well. >> more that, there is what i -- in addition to that there is what i might describe as a public relations message that's catholic church and maybe jesuits, but the cat lick church is trying on get -- catholic church is trying to get across with the messages that the pope has provided to american people and all the events that he has appeared at.

if you are the vatican and looking at that and tried to set this up whole trip in an effort to shine a positive light on the catholic church and what it's doing and this pope. what would you say about this trip? >> i think that there is a big difference between the cat van and this phone. >> that's a good point. >> you are talking about the vatican and they want this and the public relations and the vatican. i don't think that's in his mind at all. >> interesting. >> i don't think he thinks about being part of the vatican i think he thinks about being the pope, the people's pope. and i think that he feels that his job there and his calling is to minister to people. let the vatican handle the details. i do think there is a big difference there. >> that goes back to the point about authenticity. it's a good point. at the same time, they are trying to put on the best face for the church, how did they do? >> i think it was a remarkable trip, john, we were talking

before about how many noncatholics, nonchristians have been in the crowds and wanted to hear from this pope and see this people. i want to echo something sally just said. we also think about the vatican as fits like the white house or the kremlin where things are really organized and centralized and disciplined. and -- >> hasn't it been for many years? >> journalist who his work in the vatican say the different offices within the vatican offense don't know what the other offices in the vat cash up to. one of the things that this pope has done different he has not had a gatekeeper, what we would call in american parlance, achieve of staff. they very much shaped things by allowing access to some people. and he has been very different. apparently he makes some of his own telephone calls. >> how much of this did he approve and a i want to go to philadelphia and listen to these families for four hours last night and listen to their testimonies? how much do you think he approved of that? >> i think that he had a say on

everything. talking about benedict, lombardi has been the spokesperson for the catholic church. >> and he has been speaking all week. >> yes. but you don't think about him when you think of the catholic. i on you think about about him when you think about the vaunt can, you go to him. but when you think about the papacy, you think about the pope. there is that division there. i think last night was -- there were some mistakes made. [ laughter ] it went on way too long and some of the acts were not great and the testimonials were too long. i've feeling -- [speaking at the same time] >> i thought the pope was terrific. >> mag enough. >> he want fabulous. >> he listens to every single person and every word that they had to say. >> he had the notepad and the pen. >> and testimonials went on and on and i don't think he knew they were going to go that long

and i also don't think that he knew that aretha franklin was going to go on long as she did. >> he didn't seem upset about it at all. >> he did seem talk. >> -- [speaking at the same time] he seemed confused when he was watching her dance off the stage and then back on and off and back on. >> it was an amazing performance. but it does -- but -- all right. well, let's continue our discussion on the other side of this. but we have -- we have several guest that his went to bring in to the conversation. first is dr. uma, who is the president of the hindu temple society of north america. i am sorry, i butchered your name. i will say it again. [ inaudible ] >> it's great to have you on the program. also pastor mike, who is the senior pastor of the first karin three an baptist church. and imam the president of the

clergy beyond borders and the director of muslim life and chaplain at georgetown university. welcome to all of you. this is an important part of our program and we appreciate your participation. amam. -- imam. let me start with you, what was your reaction to the pope's messaging of closeness to muslims. >> you know, this is by the way a remarkable priest. remarkable spokesperson for god fox, jesus, for -- for god, for jesus, for two dialogues. for me his message was needed. muslims needed to know that christians and muslims, catholics and muslims are absolutely friends. they have a lot to do together. united we stand, divided we fall. we share a lot in common. and we together to become a voice of justice, a voice of peace and, a voice of dialogue. i thought his message was rather

important for muslims to hear. but also for the christians to know that the pope, in the name of jesus, in the name of the bible, speaks a message of dialogue for muslims. this world is going crazy divided. and we needed that voice that brings us together, that does not divide us. >> doctor, how do you think the pope presented religion as a force to tolerance? >> first of all, if you for inviting me for the forum. secondly, i was indeed very, very pleased that there was recognition of hindu are you lidge unon no -- religion on this world stage along with the supreme leader of the largest religion in the world. and i think religion has been portrayed and the way he portrayed it is something that it is so personal to each and every one of us. and then he referred to all of the inter faith leaders sit on this stage as brothers and

sisters and i think that was a remarkable statement. it shows he's outward, acceptable and he recognizes that there are so many faiths following religion in different ways, but we are all children of god. and we follow the teachings and god is one, but the matters of worship may be different and i think he has recognized that and i am pleased that i was part of this great team. you know, it was even more critical to hear this talk on the stage. >> pastor, do you think this pope is a person that can bring religions together? and did he -- was you successful at trying do that on this trip in. >> i believe that the pope definitely was. you can tell by the level of the divisiveness that is present in our country right know. that many have been groaning for a transcendent vision and a transcendent message that seeks to, in the pope's words, practice a healthy form of

pluralism with respect to differences. i think that mission was accomplished. he did a tremendous job in helping people realize that no matter what faith you are from, no matter how you practice, that nothing is gained when we seek to practice our faith in a way that excludes others judgmentally or pu punitively. and he even referred to those who use faith as a method of exclusion, he called that a perversion of faith, so to speak. and i really resonated with that. because we are in i position in a time right now in his words, that we are in a troubled world. and we need persons who seek to binds us together and are you mind us all of our common humanity. >> sally quinn wants to get in on this discussion as well. sally. >> i would like to ask my friends. amam. how do you feel -- imam. how do you feel about what his role in pluralism and talking about muslims and involving people of other faiths, do you think that that is going to help the atmosphere in this country

and the idea and the perception of muslims that we have gotten from some of the republican candidate recently? that god wanted for all of us and american republican candidates need to know they are part of the fabric of united states of america. when you step on the muslims, you step on american dream, you step on what makes america. at the end of the day in diversity lies unity. i thought the pope made it clear to americans in general, and republicans, that it brings