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>> good evening, america, i'm john siegenthaler. troops on the ground supporting russia and assad in what some call a growing proxy war. jerusalem flash point. >> we are not aggressive against anyone and we don't want they aggressions against our people.
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>> what's fueling the deadly new cominconfrontations. the aftermath, did clinton regain her footing. >> rooted in my values and experience. >> is sanders surge here to stay? what do viewers say about the debate? plus ricey photos, the market of million dollar pictures, why this picture of billy and his gang could be worth $5 million. we begin with the war in syria. there are many players from within the border, and beyond now. russia is sending in troops and fighter jets. the u.s. is launching air strikes against i.s.i.l. thousand iran is reportedly bringing in troops to support
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president bashar al-assad ass regime. also adding to a growing fear of another international crisis. jamie mcintire is at the pentagon. many jamie. >> perhaps 1500 iranian fighters have moved into northern and north central syria, all earmarks of counteroffensive to retake syria, with syrian rebels, with the backing of russian air power. focusing on aleppo and the problems around the city. the area near the turkish border. the area is divided between the turkish government and some of the syrian rebel forces as well as siel forces a i.s.i.l. force. some people say it's up to 1500,
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pentagon officials say it's more in the hundreds. they're not disputing what sides they're on. pictures on social media have emerged showing kasam sulimani talking to a pro regime rally in latakia, syria. the white house says it is more evidence that the russians and iranians are admonish fm interested imore interested infd coalition. >> it's an indication of how isolated russia is as they carry out this unilateral action. the only people that are coordinating with them now is the fledgling assad government such as it is and the iranians who have been engaged in the kind of destabilizing activity
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inside of syria that has made them target of u.s. and international sanctions. >> meanwhile the u.s. has said it has another round of video conference talks, over the subject of how to conduct those air strikes over syria without getting in each other's way. and john just to be clear, these talks are not about bringing peace to syria or battling i.s.i.l, it's just to make sure there's no accident or incident above syria, as the two countries attack different. sites on the ground. >> in washington tonight, matt, what does this mean, what is iran trying to accomplish? >> simple. they are trying to support that are ally, bashar al-assad, and their other ally, vladimir putin
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and a resurge en resurgent russn military. >> does it give iran more power as a regional leader in this area, and what about arab allies with the united states? aren't they very concerned about a move like this? >> oh, absolutely. iranian power within the region has definitely been on the rise since the day that u.s. forces set foot into saddam's rock. that was the end of the great baathist sunni in iran. our decision to go to war in '03 and the failure to leave behind a truly ethnic multireligious government in iraq that could govern all of its citizens.
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telcoing quite frankly an iraq that is partitioning whether we like to admit admit it or not, a kurdish region in the north, a sunni government governed by dasdaesh and in the gulf and jon in particular really the only arab ally of ours that is truly taking in a significant number of refugees on the ground. that could be destabilizing on their already overburdened government. >> what could or should the united states do about it? >> there's a number of things. fir off through our allies -- first off through our allies, we're ensuring that the antiassad rebels are being equipped with tow missiles, what we used to use in the '90s and
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aeriaearly youeither oughts. >> how can these rebels fight russia and iran and bashar al-assad's forces? that seems like a complete impossibility. >> well, the reality is they can either choose to not, and they can accept the return of the assad regime or they can fight to the death and continue to make progress. >> is that a strategy? >> i agree with you -- no, it's not. at this point the strategy is not committing further u.s. forces to the region. i think that the fact that russia is committing ground forces should not be something we should be celebrating. it's the last act of a desperate regime. i think there's more strategically at play for russia's involvement. >> it seems the u.s. is on the
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sidelines on this. >> we're on the sidelines to the extent we are not coordinating our air space with the russians, we are deconflicting air space. regardless what the russians say we are bombing their allies, fighting genes murderer and a dictator. this man fights his own people with barrel bombs and chemical weapons. he is worse for the country including daesh combined. is he an abomination and should be removed from power. >> we will continue this discussions matt, it's good to see you again, thank you very much. >> thanks for having me john. >> this weekend iran said it launched a long range surface to air missile. ambassador to the u.n. said it might have invited the u.n.
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nuclear conventions. the new missile appears to be tehran's first precision guided weapon with enough range to reach israel. u.s. troops are joining the fight against boko haram in cameroon. the white house says about 90 military personnel have already been deployed to the west african nation. they will conduction reconnaissance missions. the white house says up to 300 military personnel could be deployed there. this is just the latest in a series of new u.s. military activities in africa. 68 operations there in the last fiscal year, that includes deploying military personnel during the ebola crisis. the u.s. participated in 11 joint exercises and hundreds of joint military training exercises. u.s. military says it is time to
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take control of ramadi from i.s.i.l. iraqi forces say they are closing in and the final assault is imminent. sunni forces are trying to take part in that battle. imtiaz tyab reports. >> tribal fighters chant, we are not afraid. they belong to tribes from the predominantly sunni anbar province. have just completed a training program with the iraqi military. but graduation ceremony was attended by sunni tribal leaders and army commanders. it was a deliberate show of unity, as the government is preparing for what it describes as the major offensive in anbar to retake ramadi from i.s.i.l. >> translator: our message from the central government is these are your sons and we want
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them to be integrated within the military establishment and recognized officially. >> the recruits have been trained to what's called national guard. a guard of each of iraq's provinces made up solely ever local fighters, powerful iranian backed shia militias are trying to gain control. a bill seeking approval for the controversial plan has stalled in parliament. with iraq's deep sectarian divisions largely to brai blamer political situation. haider al-abadi hasn't been able to launch a new offensive despite promising to do so for weeks. >> there is no trust between the government forces including the popular mobilization forces.
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that's why there's a delay in the upcoming offensive. >> reporter: this isn't the first time the force he have tried to liberate ramadi from i.s.i.l. the offensive was halted after sunni tribes complained shia militias were becoming too involved in the fighting. prime minister haider al-abadi strategy in i.s.i.l. held anbar province has been described by some political analysts as a complete mess. still, it would appear he's determined to retake the capital ramadi from the armed gripes but until he -- groups but until he addresses sectarian concerns he'll have a hard time doing so. imtiaz tyab, al jazeera, baghdad. taliban is pulling out just weeks out of seizing control of kunduz. meanwhile a new report says president obama is reconsidering the withdrawal of most u.s. troops from the country.
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the new york times said the president may keep enough troops to search for al qaeda and fighters. new attacks and clashes in israel in the west bank today. israeli officials stepping up security. secretary of state john kerry is planning to head to the region to meet with both sides. carl penhall is in jerusalem tonight, carl. >> well, john, when we caulked last night about this time, that was when the israeli security cabinet was approving a list of new measures to try and beef up security amid this wave of violence. where we've seen these measures applied most are along the fractured line of west jerusalem and occupied east jerusalem. from the early morning, security forces moved in to try and stop residents there from coming
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across into west jerusalem. that measure was applied particularly around those palestinian neighborhoods where alleged attackers were coming from. and as night fell this evening, again, many mobile police checkpoints at access points between west jerusalem and east jerusalem and their police at least trying to check vehicles coming across from the east searching the vehicles and patting down the occupants of those vehicles. what have these measures actually done though to stop the violence from occurring? wednesday once again a day of clashes and of stabbings. let's take a look at this report. chaos on the streets of bethlehem in the occupied west bank. palestinian demonstrators clashed with the israeli army wednesday after the funeral of a 27-year-old shot and killed by israeli forces while protesting here a day earlier.
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in contrast, wer west jerusalems unusually quiet. security crack down following a series of stabbings and shootings. >> you can see it's almost empty here. so there's a little bit, keep going to the garden or to the school. >> the latest incident came wednesday afternoon when an israeli woman was stabbed at the city's central bus station according to authorities. her attacker a 23-year-old from east jerusalem shot dead by police. he became the 32nd palestinian killed in the month long wave of clashes. the live address wednesday, palestinian president mahmoud abbas said palestinia israeli pe
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meant to insight and provoke. >> we'll not stand for our children being shot in cold blood. >> at jerusalem's al-aqsa mosque compound, one of the holiest sites for both muslims and jews who call it the temple mount. the site has taken on additional symbolic meaning after recent israeli measures to limit palestinian access. residents in occupied east jerusalem are now bracing themselves for possible punitive israeli action like the demolition of homes of those suspected of taking part in attacks. >> the punishment will not achieve the goals of the israeli government. the only way to achieve the goals for people aware of living between the israelis and the palestinians is to establish the
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two-state solution. >> reporter: checkpoints and roadblocks have already been set up at access points in some east jerusalem neighborhoods. for residents stifling any attempts at normal life. now, what we heard in that report was mahmoud abbas trying to establish some authority. his leadership of the palestinian people. but interestingly i spent the day out on the streets of bethlehem in clashes there, and almosthere, butalmost all i spoe palestinian authority does not speak for them. they say they feel athat the palestinian authority has not represented their interest, the palestinian authority is not pushing and pressing israel hard to establish a two-state solution, and so the protestors are saying they are taking things into their own hands, taking the fight to israel and given of course it is a
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spontaneous grass roots uprising may make it difficult for anyone to control. john. >> thank you karl. effort to fight home grown attacks.
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>> ufu.s. jumpts justice departs creating the domestic terrorism council. john terret joins me.
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john. >> the reason this last been created is there's been a uptick in the number of lone wolf attacks. the charleston church shootings. the sikh temp shootings in 12 and the fort hood military base attack in 2009. here is how the assistant attorney general for national security put it this morning during a speech at the george washington university. >> the new domestic terrorism council will not only help be sure these cases are coordinated, to analyze legal gaps for enhancements required to ensure that we can combat these threats. >> reporter: now, here in the united states there are really two kinds of terrorist threat. first of all tr from the
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internationally inspired types and the domestic groups like the sovereign citizens, the militia that are dotted all over the country, the neonazis and to a certain extent anarchists and ecoterrorists. as lorenzo dea dean from george washington university has been telling me. >> interacted one another on the internet and carry out their actions independently. it is not a movement in terms of an organization but we do see a lot of people throughout the country. >> reporter: that's why he says the new post could play such a vital role. >> specifically because they are lone actors and it is so difficult to crack them. some kind of coordination between the federal level state and local level is particularly important. because the information is so difficult, the intelligence is so difficult to piece together.
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unlike structured groups, it is easier to track them down, the lone actors are much more difficult to identify and monitor. >> reporter: now fbi director james comey says it is a widespread threat that goes on 24 hours a day right across the united states. he's said that before. he is seeking access to encrypted information, that would be a game changer and as yet he has not convinced law makeers that that threat is serious enough for him to gain access. maybe this will change things, john. >> all right, john thank you. volkswagen's release of 2016 vehicles will be delayed in the u.s. the company informed the u.s. officials of the software late
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last mop. thousands of vehicles will be quarantined in the u.s. until they can be released. toyota is betting big on cleaner vehicles. hybrids, plug-in and fuel cell cars. right now 85% of toyota's cars use conventional fuels. by 2050, the company says the number will be closer to zero. one week later residents in south carolina are trying to recover from historic floods that led to 21 deaths. the worst may be over but the worries are not. "america tonight"'s joie chen reports. >> the way over to john britton's house should be an easy walk. >> it's dropped two of that, three foot, little more than that probably. >> we just went over a fence. >> six foot tall fence. >> six weeks after what's been dubbed the thousand year rain, the only way for britton to get
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home is by boat. >> this is my house in here. >> most of the folks who live in this area are low-income. >> low-income governmental funded housing. >> roy will got his family out safely but since the flood the reality of a second crisis is setting in. >> did you have insurance for all your things? >> no, we don't make that kind of money that we can have extra to pay insurance. >> so how much did you lose? >> everything. >> this is a poor community. in a poor state. more than a third of the population of williamsonburg county lives in poverty. and in this dot on the map town wilson fears that when aid does come, a community like his might miss the boat. >> something lost everything, we here lost everything. shouldn't it be equally, it would be terrible if they just overlook us just because we're
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small. >> low income communities may have reason to worry. >> most impacted are low income people. if you are poor when storm hits you are going to be driven deeper into poverty. while while people like to say during extreme weather events are great equalizers that don't discriminate, the truth is they exacerbate the underlying soci socioeconomic problems. low income and people of color. >> the money may come but it can take years to rebuild poor communities. eight years after katrina drove people from their public housing homes in new orleans, the city was left with half the number of homes to come home to. hurricane sandy, 40,000 public housing residents were displaced from that tome in ne that storm.
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sheila chandler hoped to come back and find something to salvage. >> how much did you lose? >> everything except some clothes. >> the fema inspectors arrived so quickly. for processing claims could take time and there's no guarantee how much aid if any the government will provide. faced with the loss of what little they had it is a challenge to have much hope. >> and can you see more of joie's report on "america tonight," tonight at 10:00 eastern time. coming up, the voice of the voters, what they say are the defining voices. plus. >> young people left to their own devices are making their choices. >> the fight in one state to make sex education mandatory and
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the resistance to it.
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>> hi everyone, this is al jazeera america, i'm john siegenthaler. mobilizing.
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hundreds of israeli troops deployed across the country as more deadly violence erupts. adult education. >> definitely there is a need. and we've seen a sustained, and in some areas, an increased need, and a demand. >> teaching sex ed in a state where it's not required and teen pregnancy rates are sky-high. plus striking gold. how a notic notorious wild westf could help a california man earn millions. >> at least two new attacks are reported today in the middle east. police say an israeli woman was stabbed inning west jerusalem and palestinian teen shot by israeli forces. several say he didn't attack anyone. as blood continues to spill, israel is deploying hundreds of troops across the country and the palestinian president is asking the u.n. to step in.
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andrew simmons reports. >> reporter: panic as israeli special forces police run through a palate west jerusalem's main bus station. no one here could make out exactly what's happening. later on the streets outside, two gun shots, dark figure by the doorway one of the special forces officers shot dead a palestinian man. police say he stabbed a woman in the bus station that wasn't caught on a cell phone camera. the woman was taken to the hospital as what police described was moderate injuries. enany hope that one might have that the security measures had an immediate effect has been shattered. questions loom how the security forces are handling the situation. hours before, a young palestinian was shot dead in the old city of occupied east jerusalem. police say he had pulled a knife when he was being searched.
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there was no independent evidence he appears he was shot when trying to run away. the streets are quiet, people preferring thought to venture out. new security measures. >> you can see it's almost empty here. so the people little bit afraid. especially the mothers of the kids going to the garden or to the school. >> reporter: in owme occupiedt jerusalem there was a mood of pessimism. the demolition of homes of suspected attackers. returning of bodies of people the government called terrorists. >> will not achieve the goals of the israeli government. the only way to achieve the goals in a peaceful way of living between the israelis and
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the palestinians is to establish the two state solution. >> on the west bank more violence. this is bethlehem where demonstrators clashed with soldiers again. here, the day before, a 27-year-old protestor had been shot dead. with israel waiting for new security measures to take effect, the palestinian president went on a verbal offensive. >> translator: we are people who are asking for riots. we are not aggressive against anyone. we are asking for world the united nations to intervene. we will not tolerate this owchtion and will not give up fighting the israel spoils which are against our people and against our sacred sites. we will not stand for the killing of our children in cold blood. >> as israel faces more violence, there is a political deadlock one ha that has a lethl price for so many.
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andrew simmons, al jazeera, jerusalem. foreign correspondent for 20 years spending several years in jerusalem in washington tonight. greg, what do you think is behind the recent riots and attacks there? >> well, it's been very distinctive john, that we're seeing young palestinians in jerusalem carry out most of these attacks. that really varies from the previous violence and intifada that we've seen where you had west bankers coming into israel and setting off suicide bombs or rockets from gaza. the jerusalem palestinians haven't been involved, it's not affiliated with a distinct group. we've not seen a lot of this in the past. >> are we at the edge of a third intifada? >> the short answer is no, it would be premature to say that.
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israel did learn they put up a barrier, they put in very tough security measures that kept all these palestinian suicide bombers from coming into israel. back in the early 2000s it was every day 100,000 palestinians came in from the west bank to israel. it was very easy for a palestinian to come into israel and carry out an attack. it's easy to stop those attacks. even if the acr anger and frustration isn't there. >> in some ways they're similar but in some ways very different than the suicide bombing attacks because almost anyone can be stabbed. and the fear now spreading through israel is just that. so talk to me about the reaction by the israelis and what they've been doing. >> right. so what we've seen, we saw as your correspondent mentioned,
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israelis set up some checkpoints and roadblocks in jerusalem. this gets to a very awkward for israelis, people move around freely in jerusalem. more than a third of the population in jerusalem is palestinians. it is one big city where you have a lot of mingling between jews and arabs. it is not easy to segregate and keep israelis and palestinians apart. we're seeing these attacks at bus stops and markets and places that people go around mingle on an everyday basis. >> you say social media is playing a role too? >> it is. the parts of the world where both sides are big in social media, having said that, a decade, ten, 15 years ago, you
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would see endless loops of the attacks and palestinians being killed. it's not like the film or footage of the attack is anything new there and it gets played again and again on television and media. but it's shown at a quicker pace now, fellow teenagers being hailed at martyrs in some parts of the palestinian community and do i think that'andi do see tha. >> thank you greg. first democratic presidential debate, the headlines say it was a win for hillary clinton but when you talk to the undecided democrats the answer is a little different. david schuster reports. >> everybody on the stage has changed a position or two. >> reporter: according to focus groups it was a clash
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between hillary clinton's polish and bernie sanders's passion. during the debate said that sanders passion and believability won. the defining moment came when sanders addressed clinton's e-mail controversy. >> let me say something that play not be good politics but the madam secretary is right, the american public is sick and tired about hearing about your damn e-mails. >> me too, me too. >> and the middle east. >> i will do everything i can to make sure that the united states does not get involved in another quagmire like we did in iraq. the worst foreign policy blunder in the history of this country. >> to be clear, the undecided democrats said, clinton also produced some of the top debate
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highlights including her swipe at republicans over women's health care. >> it's always the republicans who say you can't have paid leave, can't have health care. the women's right to choose and to try to take down planned parenthood. they're fine with big government when it comes to that. i'm sick of it. >> clinton also moved the dials with this. >> we lose 90 people a day from gun violence. this has gone on too long and it's time the entire country stood up against the nra. >> the problem for clinton, many of the focus groups said she also produced the lowest moments of the debate. >> do you change according to who you're talking to? >> no, i think most of those who i speak to, i have a range of views, they are rooted in my experience. i don't take a back seat to
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anyone in progression and commitment. >> that response and others seemed scripted, said focus groups. martin o'malley exceeded expectations. >> i'm glad we're talking about these things but i've done them. >> but said o'malley had no break-through moments. nothing on lincoln chaffee, the attention centered on clinton and sanders. while the focus groups gave sanders a slight edge, they still questioned whether he can be presidential, and whether clinton can be authentic. david schuster, al jazeera. >> ari raifn hawri raven hawk in washington, d.c. so ari gif me your assessment of what happened last night? >> what happened is, democrats
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finally got on stage. finally got to debate. we didn't see raths about insulting miss oinsulting misog. or who mocked po who. who. who how do you break up the big banks, what do you to enhance or expand social security. how do we deal with the issue of gun violence. this was the most substantive policy driven debate that the american people have seen in 12 years. >> that's not saying that much really, there was more discussion of issues last night but talk to me a little bit about the most important issue you think they disagreed on? >> look, i think the most interesting disagreement to me came on the wall street issue. bernie sanders and martin o'malley, talking about the
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reinstitution of glass spiegel. very good different approaches but that different approach also comes down to rhetoric about it. where you know, bernie sanders had that line last flight which i think was one of the more memorable lines of the debate and i think something that recess inflates with why his campaign ask taking off, about congress not regulating wall street, wall street regulating congress. i think that's why people have been attracted to bernie sanders and what demonstrated much of his campaign. >> many said that hillary clinton won the debate but bernie sanders seemed to be driving the conversation on many issues. did you see it that way? >> i think bernie sanders has been driving a lot of issues in this campaign. i think that was repeated last night. i think he's moved hillary far on issues where she wasn't going to go. i think reason we're talking about debt-free college is because bernie sanders put that
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issue out there on his campaign. so i think bernie sanders has kind of set an agenda that hillary last joined in with and i think it's allowed hillary to explore position he that frankly she's held for a long time but in 2007, let's stay that campaign, hillary forgot to run a democratic primary campaign. she was going to run on strength and didn't want her to display her femininity. there was a whole discussion about that. even before sanders got in the race, hillary clinton has been running a campaign targeting progressive democrats that she was one of them. >> the questions he's taken her so far to the left she can't be elected in the general election. >> no, because if you look at what she's talking about there are things that are overwhelmingly popular when you popoll them. debt free college, overwhelmingly positive why? so many people say i can't afford my kids' college
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education, expandin expanding sl security? opposition to tpp. exceedingly popular. >> how can you pay for? >> you pay for them the same way you pay everything else, congress shall authorized defunding for it. we can have a debate about what the national debt is and the amount of that crisis which is a whole separate debate which wasn't gotten into last night. >> that's true. >> but things are paid for when the government authorizes it. >> thank you, we'll talk again. >> thank you john. >> in louisiana, over sex education in schools, the state which has high rates of teen pregnancy and hiv does not require it. efforts to change that continue to meet resistance. jonathan martin reports from norgs new orleans. >> you guys know what the class is about right? >> the seventh grade students in new orleans are getting a lesson about sex. >> we cover hiv, other sexually
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transmitted infections. we also cover contraceptive methods. >> classes like this are rare in louisiana's public schools. the sait leaves it up to local school boards, whether to teach sex education. if they do, they're required to offer abstinence. triple the national average and teen pregnancy highest in the country, efforts to widen the curriculum has failed. >> it's crucially and vitally important. >> state representative wesley bishop is pushing for a comprehensive curriculum in middle and high schools. that includes ways to prevent pregnancy and avoid sexually transmitted infection. most recently he flair owed his
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proposal to include only his new orleans district. that too was rejected. >> young people left to their own devices are making bad choices. >> powerful conservative and catholic groups in louisiana feel schools should only teach abstinence. others believe schools have no business teaching anything about sex. >> it is my right, it is my right as a parent to decide when my child is old enough to handle that information. >> while there's no sex ed mandate in louisiana schools are allowed to offer their own programs. most schools don't. either controversy or lack of resources and training. a few school boards have called on local health nonprofits to teach sex education but parents can opt their children out. subpoena-year-old brittany's school offered it as an electrickive.
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elective. it was enlightening. >> we put a condom on a model, they provided abstinence option. >> eventually reaching 4,000 students in schools that want comprehensive sex education, however that's a small fraction of students across the state. >> definitely there's a need and we've seen a sustained and in some areas an increased need and a demand. >> with louisiana set to elect a new governor and legislators this month, he hopes he will soon get the back. jonathan martin, al jazeera, new orleans. >> the vatican today, an unexpected public policy by pope francis. the pontiff asked for forgiveness for recent scandals
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involving the church about the pope didn't cite specific instances. speaking out against homophobia in the church. trchghts violence breaking out in the middle east is something we have seen for decades but modern technology will be playing a large role. antonio mora antonio mora is here. >> john, videos of clashes between palestinians and israelis are being video taiched anindividualvideotaped and widen facebook and twitter . went out and stabbed an israeli officer. unlike past outbreaks of violence this seems to be mostly being carried out by individuals acting alone and armed with knives rather than guns. in our next hour, we'll take a close look at the role social media is playing in these violent outrages john.
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>> thanks antonio. up next on this broadcasted, why this photo purchased at a junk shop for $2 could be worth more than $5 million.
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>> a california collector may have struck gold after uncovering a rare photo of billy the kid. it's estimated to be worth more than $5 million. what makes the photo worth so much? tonight we look at the world's most expensive images. in this age of selfies and instagrams, photographs are everywhere. not exactly a work of art, it is a piece of history. a 4 by 5 tintype, taken in 1878,
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three years before kidz was gunned down, somebody bought the picture at a junk shop in fresno, california for just $2. experts say it could now fetch up to $5 million at auction. images don't have to be old to be deemed valuable. consider this work titled phantom, it shows sunlight piercing through an often photographed canyon. a record for a photograph. another landscape also fetched a princely sum. rhine 2. five foot by ten footprint sold for $4.3 million. the work of pioneering photographer dwark edward stikek
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this picture of a moon let pond in upstate new york. >> in houston tonight, so raine, why would billy the kid or why would this sell for $5 million at auction? >> great question. my question to you, where are you going to duet another one. >> nowhere. >> exactly, nowhere. one other one became available, sold for 2.3 million in 2010. the market is not what it is today, and even though we've had an up and down economy the art market has stayed stable and somewhat on the rise. if you are -- >> hold on for one second. i wonder, i'm looking at that picture acknowledge billy the kid and the gang are playing croquet. does that add to the price? >> that's a really good question. i don't know that it adds or takes away from the price. i mean the bottom line is this:
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you're not going to get another one. so if you are an americana collector, a western art collector or just an enthusiast of billy the kid, if this comes up on market, you are not going to say, well, i'll wait until the next one comes on the market. this is it. you put up or shut up. that will bring people out in droves. >> maybe i can understand -- i still can't understand $5 million for billy the kid. but let's look at the phantom by peter lickt which sold for a lot of money, how much? >> $6.5 million and that's purported. his lawyer claims that they had a private buyer pay that kind of price for it but it's not something that's sold out in the open market like the other billy the kid photographs or other things come up at auction where can you quantify what others sold nor. his work is interesting to me,
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he sells in galleries that he owns around the world. so he is naming the price of his own things and i don't think that art enthusiasts really or art collectors really consider him to be investment level art if you ask me. >> and then we've got the gerrsy photograph that sold $5.03 million. couldn't you take that on your iphone? >> but you didn't. ansel adams, he's one of the guys that happens to be at the right place, at the right time. really? we all go on vacation. at some point in time to yosemite or someplace fabulous. you have to have an eye and see it, catch that moon at that certain angle or that stream coming down at some point and a lot of people don't have that
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creative vision. >> i debt that but i look at ansel adams photographs, we don't have one here, but i know what ansel adams was purported to have done to get those photographs. that photograph doesn't look like -- >> peter -- >> i'm talking about gerskey'sys actually. >> the rhine? >> yes. >> his museum exhibited and he is in some of the top museums in the world. those curators, those experts have given him the nod and figure his work is credible enough. when it comes up at auction, i'm going to say millions of dollars -- >> somebody's willing to pay. that's the bottom line. raine.i got to go.
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raine thanks for explaining. i still don't understand. that's our broadcast. thank you for watching. i'm john siegenthaler. i'll see you back here tomorrow. the news continues with antonio mora.
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