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candidate running on that issue gain traction in the polls. also - sexting between two minors - should it be legal. and my final thought about how the most hated professor in america actually has a valid point when it comes to big media i'm adam may, welcome to "third rail". businessman donald trump recently touched a "third rail" of american politics.
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>> when they call, i give. you know what, when i need something from them two years later, three years later i call them, they are there for me so is congress bought and sold? it's an issue where the left and the right are starting to agree. >> billionaires are literally able to by elections and candidates, let's not kid now. >> the problem that underlies all of this is the cronyism and corruption of washington. there's a lot of talk, former presidential candidate lawrence lese joins me, great to have you with us. first of all, what happened. you dropped out of the race in the last week. frankly, not a lot of people knew you were running. >> right. we started about 12 weeks ago a campaign literally at zero, with not a lot of prospects.
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i'm a harvard law professor with funny glasses and my first mime is leicester. we raised a lot of money and registered in the poll, the democratics party said if you get three polls in 1% within six weeks of the debate i would be in the debates. we did that, at the last minute they changed the rules and kept me out of the debates. >> do you believe there was a calculated effort by the d.n.c. to keep you out of race? >> the rule was designed to make it so i wouldn't get in. some one called it larry-mandering they gave it a therm. -- term. what is the fear. >> if i was the democratic
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and a bunch of young french people, we ran in to the shop. people managed to get the back door open. we went into the cart yard. there was another panic. people started running from the direction. authorities were aware but to show you the level of fear, it just takes one person to start running. absolute terror. there is no education that anything actually happened on the square, but someone must have heard something which prompted this mass panic. as i said, the square emptied of a thousand or more people within a matter of seconds. >> we can see the square now. jackie >> it does look empty with riot police checking the sir couple french the circumference. authorities have said they didn't want people to gather in huge groups. so what were all of those people doing there? >> reporter: i am very glad to
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tell you that there is a colleague of mine who fell flat on her face. she is fine. i am relieved. she fell and she is smiling. yes. i mean basically, the authorities had told us and told the french people as a whole that they should avoid public gatherings. they should avoid holding public meetings, public demonstrations until thursday because of the security threat. but the fact of the matter is, people had been coming during the day, laying flowers, lighting candles, and something of a vigil has developed. i could see the police earlier on looking very anxious and very edgy, armed police all the way around the square trying to contain people in the square. generally what happens, when there are these kind of demonstrations, the demonstration expands into the streets around the square and the police were
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clearly very anxious that this gathering should not spill in the streets but remain in the square and then, they were all looking -- the police looked very much on edge. they were clearly concerned that exactly what wasn't meant to be happening was happening. namely that people were gathering. you can understand it's dark. crowds of people, no one is on the boundaries of the square checking people. people are wearing thick coats. we know that the attackers who went to the nightclub and were wearing belts, vests packed with explosives, we know other attackers had automatic weapons. it would be so easy for someone to come in to a place with explosives or automatic weapons and kill or injure a large number of people. and the fact that there was this
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mass panic is really indicative of the level of tension and fear that exists in paris now because it's not safe to go to a football match, if it's not safe to go to a concert, if it's not safe to sit on the terrace of a restaurant, then where is it safe? >> jackie, on saturday, after the attacks, paris was quite empty, and then on sunday, people, i guess, found their courage again or were more willing to take a chance, wanted to show defiance, took to the streets again. what are you seeing now? are people coming back? >> reporter: people are coming back. people are coming back. people are coming back. there are, i would say, maybe about 100 or so people here now but there were 10 times as many people earlier on. i mean, yes. the square is empty but there is no where near the numbers as before. as we were running, there were families.
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there were children in push chairs. i saw a pregnant woman, you know, ordinary people. i can see now there are children, a mother walking along hand-in-hand with her child. i mean this is just a cross people. i see another woman with a very small toddler in a stroller. people are still out but obviously, what has happened in the last hour will have speak to quite a few people. it gives you an indication that to an extent, one could argue that the attackers have achieved an objective of making french people no longer feel safe on the streets of their own city and, in fact, having an impact on the people, the way the people live their lives. as i said before, you can't be safe in a football stadium? you can't be safe in a
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restaurant, if you can't be safe on where is a rallying position for people at times of national mourning, types of national crisis. it symbolizes the spirit of france. if you could be attacked here despite the fact that tens of thousands of extra security forces have been piled in to -- have been piled in to paris since the attack on friday night, then it really gives you a sense of the insecurity. >> jackie, before this, i guess, panic or we don't yet know the details but before the plaza de public was, they have released a picture of one of the suspects they think is on the run. what more do we know about that? >> reporter: they released the picture of a suspect who was named who they said is very dangerous and should not be approached by the public.
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we understand from the documents that they issued that this individual was born in brussels and obviously the brussels connection has become increasingly pronounced in the last few hours. the fact that two of the cars which were rented for the attacks on friday night were rented from a belgian car rental firm and the two people who rented the cars were french nationals living in brussels. there has been a little con plugs exactly abo-- confusion about these french brothers we have heard a lot about. the name with a photograph has been officially released by the police. there were reports earlier on "the washington post" newspaper citing french judicial sources
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mentioning the name of another surname. >> has not in any way officially been put out at the moment. as i said, there was the name of another brother cited in that newspaper article and that would appear to tie in with consistent reports that we have heard throughout the day that the belgian police and indeed the french police, as well, were looki looking for these two brothers, french nationals who have been years. >> jackie, we are now at the top of the newshour. let's just remind viewers just joining in now that we have crossed live to paris because crowds had been seen running out of plaza de republic screaming and running. we are now hearing actually from the emergency officials saying people had run away from plaza de republic. some say they heard shots but as far as the emergency officials
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speaking to the rioters news agency, nothing has actually -- no shooting was actually confirmed. jackie roland still live for us, i think, at plaza de republic. jackie, we are seeing pictures now. what's the scene? what can you see there now? >> reporter: i am actually there. if you wanted to, i could walk in front of the camera and talk to you but we are at plaza de republic. i will walk in front of the camera in the chance you can see me. the situation here now is that people have been returning. there are dozens of people, 100 or more, who have arrived back here. they returned fairly quickly as soon as people heard that, in fact, it was a false alarm. to give you an idea of how sketchy people are, they are on the phone, ma, i heard about shooting. are you sure? it just seems that rumors are running around like wild fire at the moment.
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people are so afraid and so on edge. this is the way in which paris, the capital city, has been infected by fear and the fear is contagion now. you only need one person to twitch, almost, and you have several hundred people running for their lives. the the adrenaline kicks in. you run faster than you are aware you can. clearly, there is a lot of panic and lots of edginess and lots of nervousness for people all over the city now as we have witnessed here on plaza de reb republic. i can tell you, for example, when i finished broadcasting from here last night and i returned to the neighborhood in paris i live. it's a neighborhood that is very lively. often it's difficult to get through the streets because pepeople are spilling out. restaurants -- >> i think we have lost the line to jackie
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there this this this this this this spulled me by the sleeve. we were caught in a wave of people run can. some running to the metro. people ran into neighboring streets. we found the door of a shop open and a bunch of young french people, we ran in to the shop. people managed to get the back door open. we went into the cart yard. there was another panic. people started running from the direction. authorities were aware but to show you the level of fear, it just takes one person to start running. absolute terror. there is no education that anything actually happened on the square, but someone must have heard something which prompted this mass panic. as i said, the square emptied of a thousand or more people within a matter of seconds.
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>> we can see the square now. jackie >> it does look empty with riot police checking the sir couple french the circumference. authorities have said they didn't want people to gather in huge groups. so what were all of those people doing there? >> reporter: i am very glad to tell you that there is a colleague of mine who fell flat on her face. she is fine. i am relieved. she fell and she is smiling. yes. i mean basically, the authorities had told us and told the french people as a whole that they should avoid public gatherings. they should avoid holding public meetings, public demonstrations until thursday because of the security threat. but the fact of the matter is, people had been coming during the day, laying flowers, lighting candles, and something of a vigil has developed.
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i could see the police earlier on looking very anxious and very edgy, armed police all the way around the square trying to contain people in the square. generally what happens, when there are these kind of demonstrations, the demonstration expands into the streets around the square and the police were clearly very anxious that this gathering should not spill in the streets but remain in the square and then, they were all looking -- the police looked very much on edge. they were clearly concerned that exactly what wasn't meant to be happening was happening. namely that people were gathering. you can understand it's dark. crowds of people, no one is on the boundaries of the square checking people. people are wearing thick coats. we know that the attackers who
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went to the nightclub and were wearing belts, vests packed with explosives, we know other attackers had automatic weapons. it would be so easy for someone to come in to a place with explosives or automatic weapons and kill or injure a large number of people. and the fact that there was this mass panic is really indicative of the level of tension and fear that exists in paris now because it's not safe to go to a football match, if it's not safe to go to a concert, if it's not safe to sit on the terrace of a restaurant, then where is it safe? >> jackie, on saturday, after the attacks, paris was quite empty, and then on sunday, people, i guess, found their courage again or were more willing to take a chance, wanted to show defiance, took to the streets again. what are you seeing now? are people coming back? >> reporter: people are coming
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back. people are coming back. people are coming back. there are, i would say, maybe about 100 or so people here now but there were 10 times as many people earlier on. i mean, yes. the square is empty but there is no where near the numbers as before. as we were running, there were families. there were children in push chairs. i saw a pregnant woman, you know, ordinary people. i can see now there are children, a mother walking along hand-in-hand with her child. i mean this is just a cross people. i see another woman with a very small toddler in a stroller. people are still out but obviously, what has happened in the last hour will have speak to quite a few people. it gives you an indication that to an extent, one could argue
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that the attackers have achieved an objective of making french people no longer feel safe on the streets of their own city and, in fact, having an impact on the people, the way the people live their lives. as i said before, you can't be safe in a football stadium? you can't be safe in a restaurant, if you can't be safe on where is a rallying position for people at times of national mourning, types of national crisis. it symbolizes the spirit of france. if you could be attacked here despite the fact that tens of thousands of extra security forces have been piled in to -- have been piled in to paris since the attack on friday night, then it really gives you a sense of the insecurity. >> jackie, before this, i guess, panic or we don't yet know the details but before the plaza de
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public was, they have released a picture of one of the suspects they think is on the run. what more do we know about that? >> reporter: they released the picture of a suspect who was named who they said is very dangerous and should not be approached by the public. we understand from the documents that they issued that this individual was born in brussels and obviously the brussels connection has become increasingly pronounced in the last few hours. the fact that two of the cars which were rented for the attacks on friday night were rented from a belgian car rental firm and the two people who rented the cars were french nationals living in brussels.
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there has been a little con plugs exactly abo-- confusion about these french brothers we have heard a lot about. the name with a photograph has been officially released by the police. there were reports earlier on "the washington post" newspaper citing french judicial sources mentioning the name of another surname. >> has not in any way officially been put out at the moment. as i said, there was the name of another brother cited in that newspaper article and that would appear to tie in with consistent reports that we have heard throughout the day that the belgian police and indeed the french police, as well, were looki looking for these two brothers, french nationals who have been years. >> jackie, we are now at the top of the newshour. let's just remind viewers just joining in now that we have crossed live to paris because
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crowds had been seen running out of plaza de republic screaming and running. we are now hearing actually from the emergency officials saying people had run away from plaza de republic. some say they heard shots but as far as the emergency officials speaking to the rioters news agency, nothing has actually -- no shooting was actually confirmed. jackie roland still live for us, i think, at plaza de republic. jackie, we are seeing pictures now. what's the scene? what can you see there now? >> reporter: i am actually there. if you wanted to, i could walk in front of the camera and talk to you but we are at plaza de republic. i will walk in front of the camera in the chance you can see me. the situation here now is that people have been returning. there are dozens of people, 100 or more, who
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have arrived back here. they returned fairly quickly as soon as people heard that, in fact, it was a false alarm. to give you an idea of how sketchy people are, they are on the phone, ma, i heard about shooting. are you sure? it just seems that rumors are running around like wild fire at the moment. people are so afraid and so on edge. this is the way in which paris, the capital city, has been infected by fear and the fear is contagion now. you only need one person to twitch, almost, and you have several hundred people running for their lives. the the adrenaline kicks in. you run faster than you are aware you can. clearly, there is a lot of panic and lots of edginess and lots of nervousness for people all over the city now as we have witnessed here on plaza de reb republic. i can tell you, for example,
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when i finished broadcasting from here last night and i returned to the neighborhood in paris i live. it's a neighborhood that is very lively. often it's difficult to get through the streets because people are spilling out. restaurants -- >> i think we have lost the line to jackie roland. she was reporting live from plaza de republic. she was there when about twenty minutes ago or so, panic spread out. some people said they had heard shots. so really, the square which has been filled with probably up to 1,000 people who were there holding an informal vigil to mark, of course, the events of friday when 129 people were killed, well, the plaza de republic was effectively emptied in a matter of minutes. we have heard from our correspondent, jackie roland, she says that people are now coming back to the square and, also, an official from the
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emergency services says that as far as they know, there was actually no official report, no fired. so it does seem that, i guess, the atmosphere of fear that has unsurprisingly gripped paris cause for panic there. let's get a little bit more now on the investigation surrounding the suspects of those attacks on friday. paul brennan is live for us in brussels. paul, brussels because obviously a lot of the better are leading from the par i seeian -- from the french scalptop to the belgian one . >> indeed, barbara, the more we know about the background of thestangers and the way that they went about carrying out that attack, at bataclan and restaurants in the center of paris, the belgian connection has become overwhelming. in the last hour, what we have
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had from the national police of france is a warrant issued and a wanted poster effectively publicized from the -- if we just correct that light there. it's just gone across. it means that prime suspect, that they want to find, he is outstanding. he is not currently in custody. he is not thought to be one of those people who were killed as part of that, those attacks. his name is sala abdalam. he is 26 years old, born hear in brussels although he is thought to have french nationality and as i think we heard jackie a short while ago mentioning "the washington post" reporting that he and his brother, ibrahim were involved in the attack. ibrahim, it is believed, was one of those who died while carrying out the attack and sala, it appears, is still on the run. i am told that there is an
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ongoing police operation, a police search operation, here in brussels tonight, very abreastive efforts are being made to trace this man. as i say, he is described by the police as extremely dangerous and the wanted poster that's been circulated tells people not to try to approach him on their own but to call the emergency emergency >> we're in the eastern part of the democratic republic of congo. it's one of the least developed countries in the world, but there's an estimated $24 trillion worth of minerals here. tantalum, tungsten, tin, and gold have all been linked to violence in eastern congo by rebel groups and the congolese army. >> millions of people have been killed in the congo over the past decade.
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