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use - in the territory of turkey for preparing their operations in syria and other countries and how attempts were made or not made by official syrian government. it's not that we were trying to close our eyes on this, but we were always tried to consider legitimate interests of our neighbors and tried within the dialogue, have a dialogue to explain our position and life and have a balanced approach. also we have regards to the relationship with other groups outside the regime. not in any level we never voiced
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that, we never talked about any assessment, never criticised the turkish government actions. we always called for joint and bilateral actions regarding crisis and fighting. unfortunately, ankara is not responsi responsive. their assessment is not appropriate. well, their assessment of our actions in syria is not appropriate for the presentation, but spick specific-- specifically, what you raised about our cooperation, inter governmental agreement that we signed, our government is looking into the entire complex of these relationships. definitely we don't want to
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intentionally cause problems, not for turkish exporters who is not responsible for what happened and we don't want to create problems for our companies and citizens who trade with turkish side, but we cannot leave this without response, not because we must respond in some way, not at all. indeed, it's just the turkish territory has so many events, accumulated so many events and environment that poses a direct threat to our citizens. it became a field that is not controlled by anyone, and this process appears to be accompanied by secret services.
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the situation has many components and assessments will be made and there will be proposals for the president's report, but we won't know. what we're trying to avoid is making proposals that will create isolation of our countries. regarding the specific measures, we made recommendations to our citizens not to visit turkey. this is not something revenge done hastily. we assess the terrorist level threat in turkey objectively, and this, on the analysis of the
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suggestion, these recommendations were made. >> translation: how do you assess the reactions about this incident? it's a very serious incident. and how will it affect the relationships? >> translation: as i said, i heard the statements and i felt that he was a bit tiring statement in general, in general covering up what happened, covering up the turkish side. nato has 28 members. so how discussion was - it's very hard to make - to make it secret the discussion and we have information. that discussion was very-- we have information that that
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discussion was very heated and actions - turkey's action regarding the plane were heavily criticised, but then we understand that turkey will never university of missouri comments and the nato secretary general, but also we're way irth irthat-- we understand that the comments were not supported by everybody. he just heard everybody and concluded and stated what he did. today i remember the phrase - i don't remember exactly what he said, but something within the lines that i can - i said the measures were taken during the russian infrastructure, nato
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borders. we are educated people and i don't have to explain how hypocrite cal this statement was-- hypocriteical this statement was. the members were saying similar things. there was talking in parliament today and perhaps i might be able to tell you more later. you plan to go to turkey to discuss possible alliance of turkey and russia fighting i.s.i.l. together. is it possible now? you see, i was planning to go to turkey for different reasons.
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before yesterday we had a very different, high-level structure of dialogue. the presentation discussions with ministry of foreign affa s affairs, it is a con sully of strategic planning heading by foreign affairs. today he scheduled another briefing session for this council of strategic planning in istanbul, but understandably after the attack, this session was cancelled and we don't have any plans to visit the turkish republic and meet our turkish
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colleagues here. he understood it was unevidence table-- inevitable. he understands the cancellation and he expressed his hopes that we will eventually come to the point where we can sit down again and talk about it. also there will be other places where we can sit down and talk about it. i was not in a hurry to give him any reply because i have to sit done and assess what is taking place, give it proper assessment and then make a decision, about with regards to coalition, the terrorism fight coalition, the turkey is formerly a member of the u.s.-led coalition. by the way, besides obligations
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that are in russian and american memorandum regarding the military staff and incidents in air incidents, and measures are listed in that memorandum. americans already noted that what is in memorandum and old members of coalition have to abide by those rules. within the coalition, especially those who provided military air force for strikes on syria they
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told us that just because their airplanes are made in america - measures demand-- americans demand their permission for their actions. so i understand that our aeroplane was shot by american f16 and that's - is it the same for turkey? do they have to ask permission for an action? even if it was a known aeroplane? >> translation: all these issues raise many questions.
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francois hollande is expected in moscow. in washington they had a joint conference with obama and they emphasised that only i.s.i.l. should be targeted. and russia will only be acting correctly if they will be attacking i.s.i.l.'s position, but within the records of vienna process, many other groups are recorded. >> translation: i understand our partners are trying to steer away from the narrow focus of the solution. the definition of a terrorist, as soon as we talk about who is terrorist and the division within the coalition begins.
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there are kurdish battalions who they advise and support, but turkey at the same time believe that they are a terrorist, and without clarification on this matter. it is a very difficult task. there are other military groups that was noted having a direct relationship with i.s.i.l. and other groups, but now they try to put them into another position an present them as members for discussion. so this coalition - i mean, the coalition that - the coalition is dealing with the political present, and they will start talking about the military
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solution two. we had two incidents in vienna and we agreed that only syrians themselves have to decide their fate or their country, especially with regard to president bashar al-assad. secondly, we agreed that to ensure that this process will go ahead, we have to decide who is anal to represent the position as a joint delegation, and this proposal was given to united nations representative who is now trying to work on who is going to represent who. some groups have a patriotic position will have a say. we agreed that we have to make a
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list of who is the delegation will be. we talked to saudi arabia people and other countries, but it's a very complicated process, very complex process, but until we have a joint list of those organizations who are identified as not to be attacked, and until we have a list of joint delegation, it's very hard to continue with vienna agreements. now we hear that - we always hear that political process was to continue. so russia never slowed down their effort with this regards. even since we have the geneva
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communication in 2012, the europeans refused to do it. they stated european - it was only upheld in the security council, only with regard to chemical weapons. as a result, after that subsequently we initiated initiatives with regards to syria and called for operations, but many of them in syria, they were betting on the military resolution, but only after that, after they were not successful, they changed their positions. we don't change our position. it is open and honest.
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we don't have to color up our li line. we believe that others will conduct themselves the same way, but until the decisions of the second meeting will not be implemented, about setting up a position delegation and a single list of organizations, the further meetings about the syrian situation appears to be doubtful and i expressed this to our western partners, i talk about it to john kerry, who called recently and asked to get together as soon as possible, but i explained to him that we -
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i explained to have another meeting, but just to continue the pull and tug of war bashar al-assad issue is fruitless. before that, the things that were resolved, there is no point to continue. >> translation: what about the recommendations for our citizens not to visit turkey? >> translation: i won't be telling you about specific measures because in the process of being assessed, your colleague asked me about the measures in economics. it's in the process of settlement. naturally the question is what turkey needs to do to normalise the situation, you see, i
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believe that we have to make conclusions, we have to learn less lesson, and attacks that happened like yesterday are absolutely unacceptable. i heard them yesterday and they regretted what happened, but i would like to repeat what i mentioned with regards to how turkey views this incident and i remind reminded that the turkish planes who landed in turkey are going through the greek airspace several times a day and greece
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profe profess, and 1500 breaches of greek airspace on turkish. they became so used to it that even 17 seconds of airspace breach was not a good reason to attack the russian aeroplane. we don't want to prescribe anything, but i think the turkish government should think by themselves for themselves how the country should live. today turkish lifestyle tendency
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has been discussed. we heard about the reason and results of what's happened. we don't even have to mention who and what. we don't have - you know, there is a serious factor of preparation for tourists. the president proposed to close the turkish border to stop the flow of millitants and terrorists. obama didn't react to this in any way.
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many claim that blocking this border could lead to preventing terrorist attacks in sir. >> translation: going back to yesterday's events, what is the true aim in attacking our plane and how it will be used at an international level? >> translation: i cannot judge about true purpose. we have massive level of information. we believe that it point out that a planned action and our partners we talk yesterday, have a view that it was an ambush, that it was awaited and followed, and why it was done, it's not for me to say. there may be other reasons that
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are not political views. sometimes it's related to internal politics with partners, with all the brothers. >> translation: what reaction should be-- >> translation: if nato and european union are institutions that have to respond, they talk in united nations, that the airspace was breached many times and there were warnings, but there was 17 seconds and they had no choice. this is not making impression on serious analysts and politicians. we didn't start to write our
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official letter. which is presented the record of - we presented the record of putin's statement. we also have other materials which we are ready to provide our partners and objective controls data ministry of defense that shared already, so people can understand about the aeroplane. any other questions? >> translation: could the situation regarding the downing the russian plane affect the setting up of global coalition? >> translation: well, all these
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questions, i've already given answers. this situation cannot affect those efforts. it will be a protest of international serious support group, where we took not just a political process, but the most important question about the joint approach, joint effort about attack terrorism. the list must be agreed and now we have to insist for apart from this list, members of this group agreed on joint understanding of those routes through which terrorists receive their fundings and support. perhaps we have to sort out the specific countries also and make decisions that this support must
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stop. i think we can raise this question in the security council because there is a series of resolutions about prevention of illegal oil trade and art objects trade, and preventing any other trade types. by the way, we have reports, we're checking them now, that in the territories, until those terrorists, turkey terrorists where they feel themselves safe, there is a trade. they trade in the humour begans-- human organs, and we
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drew attention to increase measures to prevent oil trade and other smuggling operations. we have to be conscious that there should be action taken about those. they have provided information about what steps they made for implementation of those very detailed explanations there from the russian foreign minister lavrov. to go back to some of the pertinent points he made, he believed the incident are the russian jet looks like a planned provocation , and seemed to be--
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provocation and seemed to be - i will bring you in quickly. one of the things lavrov put out was we got shot out of the sky and no-one is condemning it. yes, condolences. he is trying to say you're going to be disengenius about this. you know we weren't fighting. there was no point in shooting down this plane, but this will have consequences. there is something disengen use about that i'm going to have to stop you because the commercials will run. we many come back after and see
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what's happening with turkey and russia.
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anger in chicago. protestors spill into the streets after a video is released of an african american teen shot repeatedly by a police officer. they were warned ten times in five minutes turkey's president says the downing of a russian jet was justified saying the war plane failed to leave its airspace and russia says a second pilot has been rescued millions making their holiday get aways as law officials are trying to safeguard travel after the paris attacks. >> reporter: in sitser land

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