>> my big brother didn't wake up the next day. al jazeera america's... >> today they will be arrested. >>they're firing canisters of gas at us. >> we have to get out of here. going to the right parties, et cetera. these can be fun, but they're not - they won't sustain you. it's like junk food for cocaine he went from being an relative unknown to one of the most important electronic dance music pioneers. he has made more than a dozen all bums. he has another set to come out in 2016.

quite electronic, very song oriented. i have no idea if it's good in addition to his musical career, he is known as being a vegan. the multi platform performer's lifelong passion for social activism is grounded i pragmaticism. part of my friend criteria for evaluating the issues around us is does it make sense he is also working on ground breaking music therapy programs. music actual had - was a real world healing modality and not just on the level of we listen to it and we feel better but it physically changes us i spoke to him in washington dc. you've got good 20 million albums sold world wife, 1.5 million followers on twitter.

for a guy who never set out to be famous how did it happen?

being all in, though, that leads to success eventually?

you can't - i can't buy anything that's better than music. ? people might say you're in a great position to say that because you have had such enormous commercial success. you can continue to make music just for the love of making music. can you imagine, had you not had that kind of commercial success, would you still be doing what you're doing?

attractive to me, but i was spending all my time working on music and i was really happy and of course i had professional aspirations and ambitions, but if nothing had happened, i probably would still be in that abandoned factory working on music and being relatively happy you were catapaled to being relatively unknown to being at parties with well-known people. was it grate fig?

of a sudden like ai spent my life in relative obscurity and then suddenly everything got a thousand times better. suddenly i was dating people who wouldn't have ever spoken to me or acknowledged me. suddenly i was invited to things that i didn't - i didn't even foe existed. for a minute it was great, but like with any drug experience, it just goes downhill from there. then you have that period of - let's say it's like the year is 2000 which was for me the height of dating, success, fame, wealth, et cetera. everything was humming along and it was wonderful, but then sort of issues start creeping up and you start realising i'm still a

little depressed and anxious. you think i will drink more, i will date more people and i will go to more parties. then the depression and the anxiety gets worse. you start thinking, i must be doing it wrong, i'm dating the wrong people, going to the wrong parties, i'm doing the right drugs. i need to shift that up. kind of like rearranging the deck chairs on the titanic. eventually, you just realise tha that, i don't know, glamourous dating an going to the right parties can be fun, but they won't sustain you. it's like junk food or cocaine. i don't want to be 60 years old having had my 20th plastic surgery procedure trying to date a 21-year-old, feeling like that's going to provide me with well-being and happiness because it simply never has, for anyone i don't think you've ever

been a fancy guy that travels with a lot and rolls up into a big studio. while.{enter} q. into you're making music at home yeah. most of - i mean even when i bought in to all the sort of like fame, sex, drugs, all the trappings that came along with that, i was still - i had this bizarre work ethic where i would still work on music every day. that was this very monastic solitary experience. i was going to crazy parties and rolling with ent, urage, and when i would go to work in a little tiny studio working on music for eight hours. even when i was drinking too much and doing drugs, i never drank or did drugs at work. it was me and my studio, that

was like the carved out exception to everything else you're coming up on album 13 now i don't know baby lucif refreshings. that-- lucifer . that was the original but it has changed. the new title is the systems are failing that's appropriate a light-hearted title. everyone around me probably rightly so said that having the word "lucifer"might not be the best idea tell us about the music that we will hear on this latest album. what inspired it. i can tell you about the music, but i can't washing on the assumption that anyone will hear it - --ing work on the assumption-- because it comes out in 2016. we're in a climate where people

don't buy records. also where people don't really listening to full length records. thirdly, we're in a climate where people don't listen to full length records made by 50-year-old musicians who are making their 13th or 14th record. at this point, i love making music. i don't really expect anyone to hear it. if they do, that's great. the music on the record is - the only way i can describe it, it's like new wave dance music cool. that's my generation. it's sort of new order inspired, a little dapesh mode inspired, but quite electronic, very song-oriented. i have no idea if it's good is it hard to be objective because you spend so much time, you do everything, you write, produce a lot of your own music and play the sfruments you're-- instruments

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you're watching talk to al jazeera. our guest this week is alternative music star and social activist moby. you give a lot of your music away for free. you licence it for free to different groups. talk about that and what led you in that direction well, when i was in college i was a philosophy major, but i

my norred in photograph. i think it was the last school in the united states to have an experimental film program. i never quite graduated, but from that time i ended up with a lot of friends in the world of independent film. one of their biggest complaint how difficult and expensive it is to get music for their movies. i started this website which gives free music to various people including non-profits. one of the things i love about it is it is super easy to use and it's free. it's not like a bait and switch. it is free now and then you have to pay for it. i guess it's people would have to pay for it if the music was used commercially or if the film got picked up commercially, but then any money that comes in

goes to the hs u.s., the humane society. that way i feel like by structuring the website in a way i can never make money from it, it keeps me kind of honest speaking of being honest, we should mention the reason we know each other because my husband runs the humane society of the united states and he made the introduction. you don't have to do anything good with your money or your time, but you choose to. your website is one and the other is your active . one of the things you've been focused on for a long time is animal protection. you chose to become vegan why did you make those decisions?

80% of deforestation. one could almost argue 90% of fam ine comes from animal agriculture so it food that could be fed to humans. that's the exciting part about being an animal activist. it's about the animals, but the consequences are so broad. what led me to washings ganism and animal rights active him-- veganism - i adopted a cat that was three days old when i was 10. i found it in a box by a dump. it was in a box with a few other dead cats. it was barely alive. i took it home. mum and i took it to the vet. the vet says it's very sick and not going to live. we took it to my grandmother's house and she adopted the cat and nursed it back to health.

about 10 years after that, i was 19 years old and i was playing with this cat, tucker, and realised i would do anything in my power to keep tucker from suffering. if someone tried to hurt this cat, i would like lay down my life protecting this cat. i looked at the cat and i saw it had two eyes, legs and fur and a central nervous system and a desire to avoid pain and seek pleasure. suddenly, it was almost like a techtonic alignment, gears align, okay, if this animal who i love and want to protect and care for will do everything in its power to avoid pain and avoid suffering, i can work under the assumption that every animal with two eyes and a

central nervous system wants to avoid pain and suffering. at that moment i just decided i couldn't be involved in any process that contributed to the suffering of animals. clearly, like, you either have to be delusional or a psycho- path to believe that animals don't suffer. that's why i'm such an economied animal-- committed animal activist i'm looking at your twitter posts, from politics to guns and water use by corporate agriculture in california. where do you get your passion for social activism?

coneticut. there's almost like a commonsense practical ethics that comes from old time in new england. so part of my criteria for evaluating the issues around us is not do i like it or do i not like it, but does it make sense. is it the best way to be doing something. that's behind a lot of my activism. looking at things and saying that doesn't make sense, so why are people - like, with food policy. why do our tax dollars go to subsays re-- su besydney identified-- subsidised food to give to animals. looking at gun control issues, it's the u.s. approached the gun

control, or the nra, it's like there's no empirical basis for it. it just doesn't make sense. it's offensive. i would offer that its unethical but also just really dumb. that's a big driver in my activism he believes that music can physically change you for the better. after the break the singer talks about his work on music therapy.

this is talk to al jazeera. joined this week by music pioneer moby. one of the things that you do is you try to heal sickness through music. you're on the board of institute for music and knew logic

function. i was-- knew row logic-- neurologic function. it's interesting to using therapy for people with alzheimer's, a stoke. can music heal people?

largely based on what we do with the brain. so the nice thing is nurogenesis is promoted by health and well-being. being physically active, eating well, avoiding toxins, et cetera, these are the things that promote this. one of the best sort of best promoters was music, that music actually had - was a real world healing modality and not just on the level of, like, we listen to music and we feel better, but it actually physically changes us. it decreases stress hormones, it proposal oats - proposal-- promotes

neurogenesis. i feel way i'm learning and what other people are learning as well is there are a lot of things in our lives that are ubiquitus, free and unexpensive and have truly healing powers. music, exercise, walking in the woods doesn't cost anything and it is one of the healthyist things to do. not just it feels good and it's fun, but when you look at how it affects our immune system, it is powerful than medicine you just turned 50 a few weeks ago. yes schul. as i age, i'm less interested in wasting time. that doesn't mean i necessarily

need to be jumping out of an aeroplane into a raft in the bottom of the grand canyon while reading fuko and lifting weights. what it means is in the course of my life i've spent so much time doing things out of a sense of pointless obligation. i've spent so much time accommodating people who ultimately i didn't want in my life. that's what i mean by wasted time. like, how many personal romantic relationships that shun have started-- sthunt have started-- shouldn't have started but took hundreds of hours. that's a big reregret, the amount of time and energy i've given up accommodating situations, people, what have you, that ultimately kept me

from pursuing things i value what do you do different the second half of your century. the last 50 years has been a lot of second guessing or accommodating ideas that had just been hoisted upon me, like you should do this, this is how things are done. whether it's relationships work, what have you, even socialising, like vacations, i've taken a few vacations in my life. i've hated all of them, but i kept doing this. or relationships, to be in a relationship and say i don't really value this person, so why have i been in a relationship with them for a year. it's that unwillingness in the past to actually look at evidence and hopefully, moving forward, it's acting in a way that's more in keeping with my values and may having the way that's more supported by evidence what's your measure of success?

with who i am and what my values are. which also sounds clinical, but i think of the opposite of that. the opposite of success on a personal level is being unhealthy and compromising my values, and acting in a way that doesn't create benefit. i mean, i think we alhave the capacity to create benefit for ourselves and for the people aaron us-- around us. we all have the ability to live better lives and make the world a better place. the fact that we don't is sort of baffling to me. that's success. >> every monday night. >> i lived that character. >> go one on one with america's movers and shakers. >> we will be able to see change. >> gripping... inspiring... entertaining.

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