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>> -- to prevent such abuses in the future, secure the safety and rights of all chicagoans and build stronger bonds of trust between our police department, the men andnd women that make u that department, and the communities they are sworn to protect. while i don't believe the actions of officer van dyke reflect the vast majority of the men who risk their lives every day to protect our lives, i also know that the use of excessive force and misuse of authority is not new in chicago or isolated only to chicago. there is a history of it. we have worked hard to address these concerns over the last four and a half years through intensive training, new policies governing the use of force, but for whatever progress we have made, the killing of laquan mcdonald is a vivid reminder that we have much more work to do as a city. there are two key -- there are two key questions before us.
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first, was this specific investigation handled properly? and i want to be clear, that that question is being investigated by the united states department of justice and the u.s. attorney's office and as you know the city has handed every piece of evidence over to the u.s. attorney's office here in chicago and the fbi within weeks of the incident. this includes evidence related to the shooting itself, but also evidence related to the police department's response. they will address these questions when their investigation is complete. i hope you would await the conclusion of their inquiry, which i also am anxious for. the second question is how we present -- prevent this type of insecond -- incident from happening again. i have asked five chicagoans to do a top to bottom review of the
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system of oversight, accountability, training, and transparency that is currently in place for chicago's police officers. these five leaders have extensive experiencing -- experience investigating police misconduct or representing victims of police misconduct. they include, sergio acosta, joe ferguson, lauri lightfoot [ inaudible ]. they are actively engage law enforcement, youth, religious, and elected leaders to ensure the input is based on all perspectives as it relates to criminal justice in the police department and public safety. in addition chicago native and former massachusetts governor, devalue patrick who has lead the united states department of justice and civil rights
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commission has agreed to serve as a senior advise score to the task force. these six chicagoans know that the vast majority of our officers are committed to the communities they serve, but they also know, as i do, that any case of excessive force or abuse of authority undermines the entire force and the trust we must build with every community in the city. police officers are only as effective as if they are trusted by chicagoans whoever they are, and wherever they live in the city, by reinvigorating our oversight, we will continue to take the necessary steps to build trust between the police and the residents and communities they serve. in order to bring the level of safety to our streets, people must have confidence in our entire system, they must have trust in the system that is in place. that's why the task force will look at how the city handles
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executive force cases. how we can develop an early warning system to help us intervene with problem officers. and how to improve transparency in these cases without compromising ongoing investigations. every day we work to earn their trust, to earn the public's trust, we will redouble our work in pursuit of that goal. every day we must ensure that the checks and balances are in place to keep the confidence of chicagoans in their public safety and in the people entrusted with that responsibility. that trust must be earned by everyone from the police officer on the beat to the highest-ranking officials in our government. superintendent mccarthy has been an excellent leader. his policing strategy has lead to the lowest overall crime rate on record, and his efforts to
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remove guns from the street have yielded significant progress. but a police officer is only as effective as when he has the trust of those he serves. after this weekend -- after effectively handling the protest that followed the release of the mcdonald video, and the arrest of laquan's killer, superintendent mccarthy and i began a discussion about the direction of the department, and the undeniable fact that the trust of the police department has been eroded. this morning i formally asked for his resignation. his record at the chicago police department is a strong one, and one that he can be proud of. i'm grateful for his service to this city. he has both modernized the police department and brought real results for the people of the city. but now is the time for fresh
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eyes and new leadership to confront the challenges the department, the community, and our city are facing. i have asked first deputy to serve as acting commissioner until the police force has conducted a thorough search. from body cameras to today's task force, to the new superintendent, this is not the end of the problem, but it is the beginning of the solution to the problem. there are systematic challenges that will require sustained reforms. it is a work in progress as we continue to build the confidence and the trust by the public in our police force. everyone has a role to play. and i'm just as responsible and as accountable as everyone else in working towards that solution. i do not take that responsibility lightly, and will work to ensure that every day we
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ensure we realize a strong chicago we all want and the public deserves. >> reporter: you talked about [ inaudible ] accountability, if you knew [ inaudible ]? >> well, two points lauren i would say. one is as you know, the family contacted the counsel's office on february 27th, and they -- that information has been made public, and we reached a resolution in short order, and then it was taken to city council. if you go back to steve's testimony at city council in april, you'll not only hear the settlement, but you will also hear a full thorough discussion of the videotape. second, in all of that -- not only in that material, but also i would say in what was in that video, so it was public in that way. as you can tell, and it is
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self-evident, we have two principles, one is the desire for public information, and two, also the principle about the integrity of an investigation. it is clear, and other cities handling this are trying to work their way through it, that those two principles are in conflict. if you look at what i just asked the commission to do is to not only take past practices and protocols and programs that exist in place today and have existed but to ask core questions about a video which is how do you make it public without either compromising, tainting or in any way hindering an ongoing investigation? there is a common practice across the country, you dhointder, you don't compromise an ongoing investigation. yet, it's clear you all want, and the public deserves that information. they are two conflicting principles.
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that is why having met this morning with the commissioners, the five individuals, do we need to make any changes to that practice to ensure that what we have seen you don't question why it's being held, and i have given that answer, steve gave that answer when he was testifying back in april and described the video is to also ask how do you reconcile those so the public gets what they want, but you don't compromise an investigation and they can't come to a conclusion to bring a level of justice. greg? >> reporter: given the urgency of the problem, the violence and the confidence in the police, why is this task force's report not due until after the primary? there seems to be a political decision. >> no, i would beg to differ. first of all, the work -- and i just said this to them, if they could get it done earlier great.
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that's the deadline i gave you, if you need an extension, you are going to have to ask for that. these problems are real and systemic. and i don't want you to lose sight of anything. there's a real deadline, though, to get us the material to get working. >> reporter: mayor you have been in office for four and a half years. the police department has a long history of misconduct, why have you not acted on that until now? >> i beg to differ with that. but let me go to two ways, or three. first of all we reinvigorated community policing. we did an unprecedented agreement with the aclu, we brought in agreement twine the aclu and the police department to look into how they handle cases, and in fact a lot of the
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material out there is because of the level of transparency we have brought. you cogo back to 2013 where i asked the former prosecutor to do a report also on a series of issues. so i don't accept that. that doesn't mean, as i said, you are right, there is a long history. we have made progress but our work is not done. >> reporter: you should haven't acted sooner? >> reporter: what did gary mccarthy do wrong? >> first of all let me say this. i have a lot of support and confidence in the work and results that he has done. but our goal as i would say to you is to build the trust and confidence with the public. and at this point in this juncture for the city, given what we're working on, he has
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become an issue, rather than dealing with the issue, and it's a distraction. now i support, and i said it, and noted, the results of his work, 34% reduction bill in over the last four and a half years in crime. but we must get to that confidence and trust to build what i think is necessary, which is as i said towards a solution. >> reporter: mayor -- >> just a minute. sorry. i have a lot of loyalty to what he has done in him. but i have a bigger loyalty to the city of chicago, its future and the strength of that future, and no one person trumps my responsibility to the city of chicago and its future. i thanked him for his service, but we now need to make a move in both leadership, the commission, the body camries are all a piece of starting to build
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that trust and confidence. carol? >> reporter: how do you [ inaudible ] trust in the community when you as mayor [ inaudible ] and your own police department just hours after the shooting happened put out [ inaudible ]? >> yeah, first of all, my level as it relates to my trust. i think my answer to that goes to the first part. one is we have a practice, not unique to chicago is you don't do anything as it relates to material evidence that would hamper, hinder, or compromise an investigation. i don't look at material in a criminal investigation, any of them, and if i looked at that video, your question before over the next seven months is why do you get to see it and nobody else does? so i would see it when everybody else would see it. and i do want an update of a
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practice that clearly has got two principles in total conflict with each other. mike? >> reporter: two things the other night with [ inaudible ] jackson [ inaudible ] he completes that 75% of the murders in this city are not being solved [ inaudible ] police departments. the second thing that he and members of the black caucus of the city council have said is they want to redo, extensively the provisions in the collective bargaining agreement [ inaudible ] as it relates to these kind of investigations? >> uh-huh. on the second part let me say -- the second part is -- that is for the bargaining table. it's clear there are some challenges here, as in this particular case when the information was made available, what was allowed and made permissible was the superintendent took action,
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which was officer van dyke was stripped of his police authority. once he charges came he was stripped of his pay. there are two parts i would note in the commission that are note worrithy and one of the things that i think is important, i hope it doesn't get lost. before you even get to this, how do you get an early warning system, so when an officer starts to have repeated complaints that you are interdict by professional training or otherwise, and then if it gets to a situation, we're going to have to -- as it relates to the contractual precipitation that you talked about. it's something we are going to have to talk to at the bargaining table. there is a challenge here, and one of the things is in solving -- and i want to speak to this -- this is really more for the police department to do -- but you have to have a level of trust where people come forward as did happen in the
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deshawn lee case. there are other cases where that does not happen. but building that confidence and trust can also help the police do their job. >> reporter: [ inaudible ] had that report from [ inaudible ] federal settlement for 300,000 dollars. so what is going to change this idea that you are going to crack down on corrupt cops within your own police department, when it was already known this guy [ inaudible ]? >> yeah, i would say, if i could, ed, culture, yes, but that is not limited. so if i wasn't clear, let me try again. okay? these are the -- what i have asked the task force to do, see if the oversight in the accountability and the discipline systems are vigorous as they need to be, and are there any changes? two what do we have in place or
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not have in place as it relates to an early warning to officers that have repeat problems? and third how do we deal with the transparency with those cases and also making the information public. those are all not just the goal of the police department, yes. and doing changes are not enough, but they are part of change in that culture. having a leadership that dedicates its to these goals as part of it. third i would also note to you -- so i would not say it is just a cultural change, but that is part of it. [overlapping speakers] >> reporter: [ inaudible ] van dyke, wasn't it clear to you he was a problem? >> well, that's why you have here is a situation where you have to have the pieces in place, because i think one of the problems you have is if you have an officer with repeated problems how do you interdict.
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that's something the commission is going to look into. >> reporter: what are you looking for in a superintendent does it need to be an african american [ inaudible ]? >> the police board makes a series of recommendations, so -- the police board will start their work in looking for a permanent leader to the police department, and -- but john will step in. i want to have somebody that will meet the needs of the public safety, help in this issue of changing the culture, putting in place though building blocks to restore the confidence and trust that we want to see in the city of chicago, and have a record of -- in the police department of invigorating the type of not only commitment to [ inaudible ] but the type of commitment i want to see to make the changes necessary not only to lead the department, but to
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lead the department to get the changes we want. >> reporter: do you not have any responsibility in driving reforms in the police department until today? >> reporter: bill, i answered -- >> reporter: you said you have taken steps [ inaudible ]. [overlapping speakers] >> reporter: let me try to do all of four of these. as i said in my remarks, i'm responsible. i don't shirk that responsibility. i have taken certain steps prior to this date, and i am taking steps today. this is the beginning of the solution to the problem. i got ya mary ann out of the corner of my eye. i could do it on page 10 and repeat the line to you. i said up front, before you even canned the question, i take responsibility. i'm not looking for a type, i'm looking for a professional that the can lead the department and
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make sure they have a robust record of bringing public safety. >> reporter: [ inaudible ] lived here for many, many years, you called him a chicagoan, most would not agree with you. he is actually from massachusetts now. why not a chicagoan lead this task force? [ inaudible ] >> what a shock. two things he is from chicago. >> reporter: [ inaudible ]. >> okay. that is correct, but he is a chicagoan with a background with the head of the civil rights division of the federal government. and as i said he's an advisor. he is from chicago like all of the other five who will be doing the day in and day out work. >> reporter: are you still going to paris? who is going with you? is it a taxpayer paid trip -- >> i haven't made a decision.
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>> reporter: you had planned to go [ inaudible ]. why are you changing your mind? >> well, obviously by the answer the answer would be it's a question i haven't answered here. i happen to think the mission of climate change is serious work, and i'll weigh the equities of doing that. >> reporter: what about a call for your resignation? >> reporter: [ inaudible ] political considerations played a role in the settlement, having the settlement while you were engaged in a pretty tight race and the video was released while you were trying to run for reelection, can you address those concerns, and do you have things that you have to do to regain trust? >> again, as i said, i work at that every day, and have a lot of work. and i try every day to build the trust that we have as a city and as the mayor, and the fidelity i
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have to the public -- >> reporter: [ inaudible ]? >> i'm going to answer all of your first five questions. hold on. second, i know steve and the office work to a time line. but the family came forward on february 27th, acting the city. within a short time we reached a conclusion and within a short time it was taken to city council. even while the criminal investigation by the state's attorney is still ongoing, and even while the u.s. attorney's office is investigating the civil rights and other parts of this investigation. we has a city reached that conclusion. as it relates to the video, i asked the commission and i want to repeat. i said, a long time, that on the completion of the investigation, the video would be made public, which is exactly what happened four hours after the completion of the investigation. two it is a common practice not just here in chicago, but across
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the country, that you don't release material that is essential to an investigation because it would compromise, taint or hinder that investigation. it is clear that between the public's desire to know, which is essential, and the integrity of the invest gags, you have two principles in question. should we continue that practice of a default? should it actually be the responsibility not of the city but of the investigate committee to update a protocol that is a protocol across the country. >> reporter: how can you build trust and transparency [ inaudible ]? are we ever going to get to the truth about what happened to the audio on this [ inaudible ]?
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>> yeah, i think it goes again what i addressed in the first part, but let me repeat it. there was a civil settlement. there was a criminal investigation that is now -- charges have been brought, and there's an ongoing u.s. attorney fbi investigation. questions like exist to the burger king, the conduct at the -- at that point by the police department, other things that the police department took afterwards, all of that is being looked at by the justice department, and so when you say that, i would just say there are three separate distinct parts. and they are all -- and when they conclude a lot of what you are asking, totally legitimate, they will have the answer to those questions. [overlapping speakers] >> reporter: [ inaudible ]? >> have i? >> reporter: [ inaudible ]? >> i don't -- i'm responsible to the public to do the job of
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being a mayor, and you earn that trust every day -- >> reporter: [ inaudible ]? >> yes. >> reporter: and if you had -- >> mr. mccarthy has become a distraction. there are a lot of questions in this room about you and your office. have you become a distraction as well? >> well, you will make that judgment. i try to do my job every day. >> reporter: [ inaudible ]? >> racial makeup? oak. i think you have all of the pictures, but i'll go through. lauri lightfoot is african american woman, and you know her background as a former prosecutor. randall f stone is african american. there's also an hispanic individual. there's joe ferguson who is -- is obviously caucasian,
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and then there's hierum who is also hispanic. >> reporter: [ inaudible ] federal judge [ inaudible ] what are they studies? rule 14 when you talk about cops who lie, they don't get punished. when we talk about misconduct that is not violent. you are a guy that always gets stuff up. why not just make that stuff up like you would to say pass a budget. [ inaudible ] fatal shootings? >> let me say i respectfully disagree with the analogy in this sense, mark. passing budget or dealing with other things at chicago public schools is not the same as both dealing with the set of protocols and culture and
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earning the trust and confidence of the public. you are right at one level there's a lot of work. as i said before and i want to repeat, we are not unique in dealing with the issue of confidence and trust between a community -- communities of color in the city of chicago with their police department. we do like other cities, new york or other cities, like baltimore, or ferguson, missouri, or minneapolis or cleveland have something also unique. which have why the five people i have put together to work on this subject will hit the ground working, because they have years of work, and giving us a blueprint that in my view could sustain the effort of bringing a sustained level of change to a systemic set of challenges that exist, and so that's what their
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job -- [overlapping speakers] >> that is chicago mayor rom emmanuel announcing he has asked for and received the resignation of the city's police superintendent following the release of that videotape showing the shooting of black teen laquan mcdonald who was shot 16 times by a white police officer, the officer has been charged and released on $150,000 cash bond. he said he asked for last night the resignation of the city's mayor. we're going to take a break and have much more on the back end. ♪
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a a we're following breaking news at this hour, and it happened half an hour ago. chicago's mayor, ron immanuel, asked for the resignation of the police chief, gary mccarthy, with the force since 2011. following the shooting death of black teen, laquan mcdonald. he was shot 16 times by a white police officer, the officer involved in that case, jason van zike, has been charged with murder. and he was released with $50,000 cash b
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