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if she does not it raises the question has the guyer institute broken the law? deborah davis, washington. for the latest news and analysis you can always head to our website, the address is on your screen, it's al jazeera.com. david schuster in for al ali velshi. "on target" tonight. big stars are rushing to the aid of peyton manning. how teams build brand-new stadiums and get taxpayers to pay bill. tonight the ten ver broncos are playing monday night football and shuttling to get the lathest off the press news of peyton manning.
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the national football league and much of the sports industry has rallied behind the denver qb. many of fellow athletes expressing support of manning as a friend. take a listen. >> peyton would i consider him a good friend and you hate to see your good friends go through anything like that . he butt meece bee but he's been a great player for this league, nobody has more respect for peyton than do i. >> missing from tom brady's remark, willingness to get into any of the specific allegations dogging manning. hgh was prescribed to manning's
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wife ashleigh and mailed to her. that's back when manning was still playing for the indianapolis colts. we had a 36-year-old quarterback who could not grip a football properly, his triaccepts had triceps had withered. that came on the heels of earl why neck operations. these questions were raised after al jazeera debuted a program this weekend. the film americas reported conversations with a pharmacist named charlie sly, who alleged certain sports figures sought help in receiving performance enhancing drugs. sly denies working in a clinic in indianapolis at the time peyton manning was getting treatment for his neck and the clinic has also claimed that sly
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did not work there in 2011. al jazeera is standing by the documentary and all of its reporting, debra davies last the latest. >> on hidden camera footage a pharmacist in texas, charlie sly, advises liam collins on the use of drugs band in professional sport. >> delta 2 stuff, it's like a steroid but it will be great for you. there's a bunch of football players that take this and a bunch of baseball players take it too. >> liam collins isn't a drugs cheat, he is working under cover for al jazeera's investigative unit to discover the dark side. charlie sly claimed connections to several top sportsmen in american football and baseball.
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one player, taylor teaguarantee was in his apartment discussing the use of the delta 2 drug. >> i was scared to be honest with you. i took it for like two weeks and i was also taking peptides. >> sly also allegation when he worked at an anti-aging clinic, the guyer clirchg, the banned substance was sent to ashleigh manning. >> it would never be under peyton's name always under her name. >> peyton manning has now responded to all the allegation he in the program. >> it's completely fabricated, trash, garbage, there's month arnlg advertises i'd lik adjectives i'd like the be able to use. >> he gave a start date charlie sly worked in their organization in 2011.
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sly issued his own video denial. our infiltration of a doping organization in canada, supplying athletes with an array of banned drugged and offered medical records to cover it up. >> ten injections a day in some instances. if you want to really go black ops so to speak i can just document everything not in this chart but in my own chart and if somebody ever comes sniffing for it. there's the decoy. >> chad robertson, brandon swetzer and brandon teagarden did not respond to requests for interviews. al jazeera's undercover investigation raises new questions about the possible use of performance enhancing drugs in sport. >> inns jo joining us now is al jazeera
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contributor dave zyron, edge of sports radio with dave zyron. he joins us now from denver. dave, first of all, peyton manning suggested to an espn reporter he is going to sue or may consider suing al jazeera. what is your reaction? >> i certainly hope he does. one thing we've learned about these performance enhancing drug stories you don't really get the truth, from if various hangers on or people behind them, until their hand goes on that bible and prison time looms as a possibility. i was watching a espn show right before coming on and it was remarkable for me to see four paid journalists for espn professional journalists saying that peyton's outrage is proof enough for them that the al jazeera story is false. as if we haven't seen time and again with these stories the
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outrage, lance armstrong, marion jones, rafael palmero, most ink stained wretches, their jaw hits the floor. how unfair the media is to impinge their character. so i really do hope he does sue because unfortunately in these cases that is only time you don't get these alternative versions of truths where everybody who loves peyton manning and loves the nfl says absolutely he is innocent of this skull du skulduggery ious journal. he must be guilty because these athletes always are guilty. >> dave you've been in denver, what is the mood for denver about their even though he's not the starting starting qb? >> they are regarding al jazeera
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the same way as donald rumsfeld regarded al jazeera at the moment. he hired ari fliesheri fleicher to head his public relations firm. he is having by a large margin of significant statistical margin the worst season of any quarterback in the season. already a lot of folks, people love denver broncos football, much more than they love any individual player. a lot of people who psychologically moved on from peyton manning, hope he retires, moves on to another team, definitely that the team should move on, to have there happen right now is an odd point for his love affair or absence of
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one with the broncos, the people love the team so much that any taint of scandal makes them very angry and very inclined to believe the defenders of peyton manning and less likely to see the facts as they are really happening here. >> anything about the documentary that you have questions about ? >> gentlemen, absolutely. my -- yes, absolutely. my number one question is i would love a full motivation of liam collins, who went under cover, spoke to charles sly, when did he work at the clinic, what were these trutio drugs yoe getting, what's the connection with peyton? everything else will come out in the wash. anyone who goes under cover and wears a wire, it is the same thing with the waist
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rel who took down acorn or planned parenthood, i'm not going to name him on television. his opinions on performance enhancing drugs his opinions on american sports all these things i think are fair game at this point. >> we're going to ask debra davies, the al jazeera investigative reporter about some of the motivations of liam collins. you have been covering professional sports, is it as easy as athletes to get this stuff as the public now thinks? >> yes, it is absolutely easy. it is a constant very difficult moral question that hangs over the head of every athlete. on the one hand if you take these drugs there's a ton of anecdotal evidence and a ton of locker room chatter that it will increase your play, that means more money more
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contracts, more endorsements, so you can set up your family for life. maybe the person trying to get your job is taking those drugs and you're not. that's the kind of pressure that hangs over every modern athlete. do i try okeep up with the guy at the locker next to me or do i do what the league says should be done, which is cleanly. the definition of how to play sports cleanly is a mine field, you don't know where to begin. peyton manning when he discussed what exactly he was doing for those 35 days at this clinic instead of taking hgh, he said i wasn't doing anything wrong, i was sleeping in a chamber. rather thawhen they were injecting something into my spine. wait a minute? it's something so difficult to parse through. at the end of the day, what we want from our athletes more than anything else is owning up and telling the truth whatever that
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truth may be and i certainly think we're going to see more truths come out as this story progresses. >> dave zyron great to have you on as always, thank you. >> thank you. >> coming up next, we will talk to the reporter behind the story, al jazeera's debra davies sheds light on questions raised about her report. and money for nothing. why cities keep catering to billionaire sports owners whreefn the numbers just don't add up. >> the only live national news show at 11:00 eastern. >> we start with breaking news. >> let's take a closer look.
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>> al jazeera debuted a new documentary over the weekend, dark side secrets of the sports dopers and it's causing a stir
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in the sports world. the film questions the antidoping protocols in place for professional sports suggesting they are full of holes that players can easily exploit. several professional athletes were mentioned in the film including denver broncos quarterback peyton manning. he says the insinuation he took human growth hormone sent to his home in his wife's name are garbage. debra davies joins us from washington. debra i want to start with something that a guest in our last segment mentioned. he said he watched the documentary and wanted to know a little bit more about the motivations of liam collins, the british athlete that helped al jazeera go undercover. what were his motivations on that? >> we met liam collins, he is someone who is passionate about sports. sport has been his pliech he was
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a talented schoolboy -- been his life. he still competes at masters level and he is fascinated to know how you can cleanly improve your performance, and what is the dividing line between the light and the dark side. what is it that makes athletes want to cross over into the world of doping. so we were already looking at this as a topic, we met liam, seemed to us that he was perfectly perfectly placed to be someone to go under cover. because it's such a closed world. liam knows what he's talking about. he is what he says he is. he's a proper athlete. he was the perfect person for us to go under cover and he has done a fantastic job an absolutely fantastic job carefully managed at every single stage by us. this is an al jazeera investigation, liam has helped us with it. >> one of the things that he
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helped do was he helped record conversation west charlie sly who was the pharmacist who worked for a period of time in jams. there commented to be allegations from the guy irinstitute that he wasn't there in 2011, when he said he was, the time when peyton manning was trying to get help for his neck injuries and trying to recover. the guyer institute insisted that sly was there in 2013. what is the proof that convinced you that charlie sly was being truthful the first time when he said he was there in 2011? >> well, what convinced me is when i rang the guyer institute and they confirmed it on the first of november. feferght m forgive me for being croaky. i was doing a verification check
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on charles sly, someone went and looked it up, he began his rotation which was part of his pharmacy training. that corresponded exactly with what he'd told us in the undercover about the period that he was there. >> were there any -- is it possible though that the guyer institute when you called them in december that they got it wrong? >> no because she knew charlie sly. one of the things when i first raised his name, she said oh yes, then when she gave me the dates, i said it sound likes you knew him. she said yes, i knew him when he was here. >> charlie sly has recanted gone back on some of his statements. how many hours total did you record charlie sly and what convinced him that he was being truthful in the conversations you recorded? >> first of all the way we got to him, you don't start with somebody without any evidence for secret flixg.
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wfilming. we spoke to the people in vancouver as a person who had taken smart drugs to a whole new level, he had doped a particular athlete to nfl stardom in the nfl combines. they praised him to the heavens as someone who is a real doping expert. first meeting liam had with him. charlie sly took him back to his apartment, pulled out a sling out of his fridge, a baseball player turns up at sly's apartment. so all the time, the levels of corroborate rakes who sly is what his contacts with athletes is, are building up. when athletes rang charlie sly he went off into a separate room. to take the call separately. by the time they were done charlie sly
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was taking calls in front of liam. >> nationally across the united states, you find yourself today having to answer for things that you did not anticipate when you put this together? >> no. no. not at all. i mean everything that we do is rigorously checked, editorially and legally. we absolutely stand by our reporting. i haven't seen anything from anybody. misreporting. what happens with a big story, you put out your story, other people pick it up, they mangle it, tangle it up. stuff gets misreported. everything in our program we stand by, one of the things that's really got mangled up is with peyton manning. the allegation in the program is very clear: charlie sly says that growth hormone was shipped from the guyer clinic to ashleigh manning in florida. that has not been deposited. if that were not true, why last
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peyton manning not come out and categorically denied it? why has the guyer clinic not categorically denied it? how much did it cost? how many other patients have been sent growth hormone from the guyer clinic? we've asked, nobody's answered. >> al jazeera's debra davies. thanks for coming, we appreciate it. wouldn't it be nice if you built yourself a new house and got the taxpayers to pay for it? how the rich sports owners manage to do it far more often than you might think.
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>> if you live in st. louis or
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los angeles you might have heard politicians this holiday season talking about giving your city the gift of a shiny new football stadium. well, if we're asking santa to build your city a new nfl football stadium next year you should be aware of two important things: one, the nfl is swimming with cash, with revenues that are projected to top $12 billion in 2016. public money your taxpayer dollars will likely finance more than thaf half the cost ever stadiums. some describe them as corporate welfare. ali velshi has the story. >> blow up an old stadium. build a newer bigger one costing 1 billion or more.
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it's been a pattern repeating itself over the past years. new stadiums especially reflect the success of the national football league or nfl, whose total revenue since 1995 is $99.4 billion. but a large part of funding for most of these new stadiums comes not from the proleagues like the nfl but from taxpayer dollars. some critics see it as a form of corporate welfare, and what few people realize is that even after a stadium is blown up, and no longer exists, taxpayer money is still being used to pay off the stadium's debt. the kingdome, home t mariners and seahawks, exploded in 1986, has
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outstanding debt of $83 million. and giants stadium demolished in 2010 has outstanding debt of $266 million which won't be paid off until 2025. and yet, when it comes to football stadiums, cities keep building new giant facilities with state and local governments on average paying for 57% of all construction costs. that translates to over $6 billion of taxpayers to build fancy new stadiums since 1995. take the minnesota vikings new u.s. bank stadium in minneapolis, minnesota, the cost is slated to be $1.1 billion, with taxpayers shouldering almost 50%. much needed economic boost to minneapolis. >> already $1 billion being
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constructed, around the stadium, bringing all these major events, and the people in the economic, people stay in our hotels, eat in our restaurants, shop in our stores. that never would happen if you don't have this kind of facility available. >> but sports economists like craig depkin who have studied the issue come to a different conclusion. >> so economists have contemplatewhether the benefits outweigh the cost of publicly build stadiums and in general find that the benefits do not outway the costs. these are not good deals for cities. >> and the minnesota vikings that cost versus benefits debate dates back to 1999. back then governor jesse ventura had a meeting with red mechanic mccombs.
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>> red mechanic combs came in an mccombs came in andsaid governow stadium. i said, red, you don't need my approval. >> mccombs recalls his conversation with governor ventura. >> the perfect relations value and the day-to-day plugging of your city. you can't put a value on, because there's no other model or any other product to where you can get that. but on sports, you get it everyday, the year round. so of course it's worth it. it's more than worth it. it's the best value in the world. >> ventura said he told mccombs if he wanted a new stadium he could raise ticket prices to pay for it. >> i looked at him and said red, let me tell you something, my wife, the first lady of minnesota, she doesn't give a
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rat's ass about viking football and there is a lot of other people who could care less about it. you're telling me you can't charge your fans but you can reach into these people always wallet, so you can get a new stadium? i said don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out. >> it would take another decade and a half before the vikings would get their new stadium with the taxpayer footing half the bill. scheduled to open in july of 2016 and given that the average life span of a new football stadium has dropped to just 30 years, this new vikings stadium will likely be demolished in 2046. ali velshi reporting. and that is our show for today. i'm david schuster in for ali velshi. thanks for joining us. the news continues here on al lodges. l jazeera america.
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