positive changes. >> it's great talking to you. enjoy the concert. you just reminded me that we've been together for a while doing this. thank you. that's all of our time. tony harris, thanks for watchi watching. paul beben up next for more of today's news. day's news. >> and thank you tony. we begin this hour of al jazeera america in belgium where there's still an all-out effort to root out tuesday night's attacks. two of the suspects were shot in the legs. dominic cain has details. >> reporter: police move in to apprehend a suspect, he failed to comply with police request to remove his rucksack. so they went in. the pan wa man was wounded. those who witnessed the incident

gave their reactions. >> we heard a boom. we thought it was a car accident. when we tried to get close they told us to get out of the way. >> translator: we were asked to stay indoors all the time it was going on. the police were worried there might be another shooter. >> reporter: overnight, the police lowered the threat level suggesting that tensions may have be lowered somewhat, but that is not case. the incident schaerbeek, one of the airport bombers was najim laachraoui. his brother has now spoken to the media. >> why did you stop contact with him? >> because he was in syria. >> did you try to get ahold of him? >> he was in syria.

it was difficult to get hold of him. there were no more contacts. >> while the hunt for those involved in the attacks goes on elsewhere the third and last day of national mourning has been observed. the u.s. secretary of state paid his respect to the victims at the ceremony at the airport, zaventem airport. we all declared, je suis. owneis parisi

parisien. now we declare, je suis. is brusselsien. >> are roxana saberi has more. >> 31 people killed from more than 40 countries. >> sasha and alexander were on their way back to the u.s. for a visit. standing in a ticket line in the brussels airport on tuesday. waiting with their mother when the bomb explode. james kane still held onto hope on thursday. >> the parents and families deserve to be at home. with them.

but he confirmed their death on friday. friends say alexander loved animals. he ran this instagram account dedicated to his be dog, nelson. sasha interned at the u.n. and a catering company in new york. on friday the company posted this message on facebook, calling sasha warm and lively with a great future. adding we will miss her tremendously. among the roughly dozen americans who survived, mason wells, the 19-year-old from utah, spoke from his hospital bed in brussels. >> the blast was really loud. it even lifted my body a little bit. and i remember feeling a lot of really hot and really cold feels on the whole right side of my body. i was covered in a fair amount of blood. >> reporter: on friday,

secretary of state john kerry paid tribute to the victims in belgium and vowed to work with belgian authorities to prevent more attacks and more deaths. >> it is with irreplaceable loss in mind that we will renew our vow to come together against a common enemy in order to keep our people safe. >> a state department spokesmannen be confirmed that two american citizens are dead, but have not released their names. >> thank you roxanne. >> minister al jazeera national security correspondent jaiment e mcintire is at the pentagon with more. >> in the announcement of i.s.i.l.'s second in command's

death, be said, the success in targeting i.s.i.l. leadership in iraq and syria shows that the momentum has shifted in favor of the united states and its allies. defense secretary ash carter says the war against i.s.i.l. is getting more personal every day. >> we are systematically eliminating i.s.i.l.'s cabinet. >> the latest kill, i.s.i.l.'s reputed number 2, a man going by hajji imam, aol the be pentagon could not connect him to the paris or brussels attacks. it comes a week after be i.s.i.l.'s minister of war, omar the chechen, was killed. and anu sira said to have paid

the rebels in iran. >> they are senior they are experienced and so eliminating them is an important objective and achieves an important result. >> reporter: the u.s. military says the attrition of i.s.i.l. showing up in the battlefield where iraqi forces advancing in villages around mosul say i.s.i.l. forces are no longer fighting to the death but instead retreating and retrenching. >> i think the momentum is in our favor. there are a lot of reasons for us to be optimistic in the next few months but by no means should i say we are about to break the back of i.s.i.l. or the fight is over. >> jenlgeneral dunnto dunnford t

shells from the ground are not that different than from the air. speeding up the pace of battle, sending more troops to iraq. >> secretary and i both believe there will be an increase to the forces in iraq in the coming weeks but that decision hasn't been made. >> in the past, the pentagon has always disclosed whether i.s.i.l. leaders were killed by air strikes or commando raids. this time, the pentagon is withholding details. but the pentagon does confirm that be i.s.i.l. number 2 man was killed in strikes, but they hoped to get him alive to get information on number 1, anu bakar al baghdadi. >> joining us from toronto, great to have you with us

tonight. >> thank you very much for having me. >> great. so we just heard a report about a series of sbl sufficiently of successfusuccessful strikesagai. will these have help in the attacks in brussels? >> they will replace them as quick as you can kill them. but of course the -- you know it's the governments that have the never ending supply of bullets. so there is another side of it. there is an effectiveness side of it. many years they've been on the filed. when you take those people off that's one less person they have capable as part of their networks. fur more when other individuals hear -- furthermore when other individuals hear that high value targets are being taken out, that's what be makes them feel,

maybe we should expedite attacks. >> you feel that while these kind of killings while successful in taking out the leadership, might speed up some plots that are already in motion? >> yes, it's very possible that you are going to have both positive and negative benefits at the same time. so of course, one of the most negative benefits is that they might want to expedite those attacks. especially as they start to see that you know, the higher l lefs beinlevelsbeing targeted they mg next. >> we have just seen in the past few days since the attacks in brussels a series, a litany of failures by belgian intelligence. and it's been reported that per capita belgium has contributed the most i.s.i.l. fighters in all of europe. why belgium? >> i feel sympathetic towards the belgians because they have

interdicted a lot of plots. but those foiled plots don't make it into the media as well as the successful ones do. given had a they are constantly plotting taking advantage of every conceivable law in the book, for instance the belgians can't do night raids. so at least the bad guys get a good night's rest. it's things like that. or intention sharing challenges they have not just at the federal level but at the local level, you have many police agencies each not knowing what the other is doing. you may see institutional reforms taking place in the intelligence apparatus. you cannot stop every attack. >> one second, you say belgian police can't do night raids? what's that all about? >> i think it's just changed yesterday. be maybe yomaybe you can fact-cn

that. but one of the things they cannot do, night raids, and was preventing them from carrying out other raids. >> as you say, i'm sure there will be reforms in the wake of this. overall do you think that intelligence agencies in the eu overall are having any level of success here? >> well again what's our measure of success? 100% success rate is not realistic. one bombing is too many. is five acceptable? ten acceptable? we're hearing numbers like 400 i.s.i.s. operatives, i don't believe that number, but even if we chop that to 100, forget that, 50, or even five attacks happen in a year is that too many? so it's a very, very difficult situation. the belgian intelligence security service wasn't built to

handle this kind of load. >> right. your own experience as we know has given you particular insight into the mind set of some of the people who might be carrying out some of these attacks or inclined to carry out some of these ideologies. where we've seen people sort of find common cause and communities that shelter them, do those conditions exist in the united states? >> no, they do not. the -- in north america in particular muslims are very well integrated, they are very well educated, they are largely affluent, they have money, socioeconomic distress is not such a common thing. and so this is why it's important that again, maybe this sounds cliche but you should not be engaging in these margina marginalization exercises against every muslim. saying we're going to patrol

muslim neighborhoods, muslims don't live in city blocks saying this is a muslim neighborhood. they are spread out well integrated. one does not merely police muslim neighborhoods. maybe in europe it's a little different, you will find urban centers like minneapolis and toronto, large number of ethnic communities stay in one area. highly dense populations, young males especially, these are problem areas. you know it's not a complete -- it's not completely okay. there are areas where these gatherings take place where these individuals can find sympathizers. networks into which they can escape and hide out. there are some levels of that in the west, of course, anywhere but not to the level that it is in europe. >> maybe the american melting pot works after all. reuben sheik, thank you for

joining us. >> thank you very much. >> bomb killed 29 people and wounded 60 others, attack came after the iraqi military had announced that it's making gains against i.s.i.l. in anbar problems of. i.s.i.l. declared responsibility for the attack. drone footage aired on russian state tv shows syrian forces recapturing an ancient fortress in palmyra. palmyra had been under i.s.i.l. control since may. mohammed jamjoom reports. >> these be photographs shown on be russian state media, showing planes and helicopters flying overhead as soldiers approached on the ground. the syrian observatory for human rights said many civilians fled

palmyra after i.s.i.l. told them via loudspeakers that the fighting was drawing near. moving quickly to release this video showing its drivers in parts of the city as syrian government advanced. some believe the syrian government advance will be a morale booster. >> given the focus of i.s.i.s. as a terrorist organization, this shows that i.s.i.l. is a state and a failed state at this time. even in terms of diplomatic channels of geneva, this is a set back for i.s.i.s. it is not end yet but it seems to me to be the beginning of the earned. >> palmyra includes a unesco heritage site. began a campaign of mass executions and destruction of sites. palmyra is strategically located

between the government held capital of damascus and the i.s.i.l. stron stronghold ever z zor. rebel factions have significantly reduced violence but the talks secluded el nusra front and i.s.i.l. this is evidence that the government of syrian president bashar al-assad is still making advances. mohammed jamjoom, al jazeera. >> up next people in the u.s. illegally, who join the military. why some say this is a good thing and others say it's a security threat. and fighting violence with economics. a chicago neighborhood that is pulling siflt itself out of vioe in hopes of make itself safer.

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blow-back tonight against the north carolina line banning an anticomploimenantiemploymenten r identity or sexual orientation. apple stores say their employment is open to everyone regardless what they look like or how they love. giving people a fast track to citizenship but critics call it a potential national security risk. al jazeera's duarte geraldino reports from fort benning georgia. >> dave tomlinson is imrament. he just became aen citizen.

>> i decideto join the army. >> that process becoming an american citizen can take up to five years, frn being grante --g granted a green card. promising to fast track their path to citizenship when they enlist but a pilot program started in 2008 widened the pool of potential foreign recrooutle. more controversially in 2015, president obama expanded the program make it possible for people who illegally enter the u.s. to join the armed forces. and the military offers them the same promise. a fast track to american citizenship. within months. it's about 4:30 in the morning and i'm two hours south of atlanta at fort benning air

force base. non-u.s. citizens in combat techniques. the program is called military assention is vital to the military. or mavni fort short. people who have skills essential for the military like medical or language training. became adults in the u.s., is is once in basic strange they're virtually indistinguishable from everyone else. because of privacy concerns, security and potential controversy surrounding these recruits, the u.s. government isn't releasing much information about individual recruits except to say they have all had thorough background checks. but not everyone has faith in those background checks. before mavni was expanded, north

carolina congressman walter jones sent a scathing letter to chuck hai hagel. lawyer mar margaret stock creatd the program eight years ago. >> historically, the armed forces's recruited in war time, the armed forces recruited anybody who was qualified. they didn't care about your immigration status. >> you really have no business being in the united states armed forces unless you're part of the united states population, you're a u.s. citizen. >> mark kerkorian is executive director. >> even for legal immigrants there are legal restrictions, it's permitted to them. for illegal immigrants they are

bard from joining the military and it should stay that way. >> the program concept came out of the attacks of september 11th, 2001. one of the things that came out of the attacks is the united states had a lot of intelligence information that possibly would have allowed us to prevent these attacks but the information hadn't been translated. we had people in the country who spoke those languages acknowledge the languages we needed, but we weren't recruiting them for the military, due to the fact the immigration system was broken and dysfunctional. >> most of the mavni enlistees speak key languages needed for the military, like korean, arabic, russian and chinese. 51 recruits started basic training and a handful of them have already been naturalized. the army says it wants to expand mavni to boost the number of recruits who enlist but federal

funding is set to expire in late 2016 and there's no talk in congress of extending it. >> that's al jazeera's duarte geraldino reporting. with more evidence linking zika virus to severe brain damage in newborns, to reduce the risk transmitting it to a baby the new recommendations include women waiting eight weeks after symptoms of zika appear before trying to get pregnant. men should wait six months after having unprotected sex to avoid spreading the virus. this could be one of the most dangerous years in the city of chicago. many young black men find themselves flapped a world of guns, gangs and little economic consist.

be dianassistance. diane estabrook takes us there. >> boards a bus then a crosstown train. the hour long commute takes him downtown to a minimum wage job at a bowling alley and a restaurant. >> that is a long way to go for a job. >> you know, determination, that's what i have. >> is it worth it? >> yes, it's definitely worth it. >> in inglewood, a large number of black men are unemployed. it used to be a large business district in the city but now littered with closed businesses like this one. race riots drove many mom and

pops out of the neighborhood. manufacturers like nabisco started sending good paying jobs across the border to mexico. the lack of opportunity has helped turn inglewood into a hotbed of gang activity. glen fulton is trying to change that. he heads the greater inglewood development corporation. the organization helped bring whole foods to the neighborhood. the grocer is building a store that will open this summer and will employ about 100 workers. he thinks inglewood is right for change but he admits it won't happen if the people here aren't on board. >> it is going to be based upon the individual's efforts. the sons and the fathers and the mothers that are out there, they really have to want to be a part of the change that's going on in this community.

>> reporter: derrick pouncey wants to be part of this change. the 21-year-old says he's hopeful the prospect of more jobs will improve his life and his neighborhood. >> help slow down of violence. help kids put better understanding in their life. keep people off the streets. >> and help make inglewood the neighborhood it once was. diane estabrook, al jazeera, chicago. >> coming up next: hillary clinton and bernie sanders and the fight to win tomorrow's democratic caucuses in washington state. plus, a performer with multiple personalities. he is david jo johansen and busr poindexter. it's the fight to identify himself.

>> there were multiple raids across belgium and france today in the wake of tuesday's deadly

attacks. three suspects were arrested in brussels. two were shot by police. and in france authorities say they have thwarted an imminent terror plot, finding weapons and explosives in an overnight raid in a paris apartment. rula jalil, great ohave you. >> thanks for having me. >> the response to the attacks, is the west getting it wrong in how these countries are responding to these attacked? attacks? >> we can't tut put it all together. the west had very are huge response after 9/11, wmd, you know, so you have, the united states, you have institution here and they build a capacity of intelligence, whether we like

i.t. or not, they build very -- they overreacted somehow and a overwhelm overwhelming response. the other side, you have no response whatsoever. even though you look at the number of foreign fighters, you had thousands, coming from europe on daily basis, going to fight in iraq and syria and afghanistan med e-and when they come back with a jihadist ideology, that's not going anywhere. they radicalize their neighbors their friends they get arrested they radicalize more people in jail and the intelligence failure of europe is -- i've never seen anything like this. >> so what is the balance then? so europe its borders are too porous, not doing good enough job of rooting out these guys on the way back in. the u.s. overreacted? what is the balance? >> there is always a balance. it's not what europe is doing. what europe is not doing. so you have two responses. one it's called preventions.

they are not doing anything because they have communities that are not integrated. the u.s. has done much better job in integrated your muslim community. muslims here feel first and foremost american citizens. law enforcement, you have many people serve here, in new york, serve in the police department, the fbi and the cia and all the intell we have, segregated communities in europe, a community that distrusts europe, community there, crisis of identity, europe sees itself as a wide christian club that secludes absolutely minorities. they have a harder time including jews. they will have a harder time including muslims. that's why you will see an openness for these radicals to recruit more.

>> with that in mind, we've had -- we're in the middle of a very vigorous political campaign here. >> very vigorous is the right word. >> and we've had responses from the candidates to what mairng should damericashould do in rese attacks in the neighborhoods. >> i think ted cruz and donald trump are a gift to i.s.i.s. what i.s.i.s. will use for its propaganda to recruit more and to send a clear message to the muslim community around the world and especially here in the u.s. see they don't want you. they don't trust you. they want to see the world in them versus us, in just eliminate the gray zones but they want to create a world where it's dar a saaam.

we want exactly that, higher walls. trump is a man, is an analog man living in a digital world. it doesn't work. you can't build a high enough wall. they can be radicalized online. you need to think creatively. they want to capture abuen masad al zarkawi, they would raid every house for every night almost 18 times. they couldn't capture him. they captured and killed him only when they cooperated with the sunni community, when they did the awakening. the moment of the awakening was a moment of collaboration and

cooperation. that's when the sunni community handed over al sarkary. zarqawi. >> by a tiny faction how much is that case versus the conditions the economic conditions, the social conditions? >> look i believe radicalization, if you think of al qaeda for example, after 9/11, according to the fbi you had only 400 members of al qaeda. that's it. 14 years after the war on terror you have hundreds of thousands of many radical groups in nigeria, boko haram, in somalia in mali in libya in yemen. so you need to understand that what we need to examine, the rise of this fanaticism is it only connected to the social condition or political

condition? most of these radicals who have been interrogated by the fbi or cia, they have never read the koran, for them it's about the political condition. so when donald trump says we need to ban muslims or he says we need to torture them, we have arab tyrants who have been doing that for 74 decades in egypt, saudi arabia, libya, iraq. what did that produce? mass radicalization. you don't need to repeat those mistakes. you need think creatively. >> but trump has millions of americans who support him. what do you do about that? >> look, luckily america is a vibrant democracy and it will find answer he to these bigoted racist, i would say, and very dangerous candidates. i believe in the democratic system, where people come together, discuss ideas, and i think most important ideas have been discussed today.

do we want a system of segregation, that america already had, they had george wallace and they had the segregated south. that doesn't work. this is not the 21st century. the 21st century is made up of people where an american can run for president, where an african american governed for eight years. i'm an be arab american, you are an american-american. german italian. the united states of america we are equal under the rule of law. this is what the united states is about. and i think to make it or turn america into another police state, this is not answer. this will exasperate the problem. >> on that positive note it's good to have you. >> thank you. if i may add one thing, fear is not an american value, hope is.

>> thank you. you little rest for the democrats. three caucuses happening tomorrow, alaska, hawaii and washington state. but the battles bath between the two top candidates, be ted cruz and donald trump. the report that cruz has had several extra-marital affairs. cruz is not buying that. >> it is a story that quoted one source on the record, roger stone, donald trump's chief political advisor. let me be clear, the margin enquirer story is lies. complete and utter lies, it is a tabloid smear coming from donald trump and his henchmen. >> bernie sanders held a huge rally in portland. he couldn't resist taking a swipe at the republican front

runner. >> donald trump in the white house brings forth rather strange reaction is in our stomach. leading to nausea and other symptoms. but here's the good news. donald trump is not going to become president of the united states. [cheering and applause] >> sanders is also holding a rally later tonight in seattle, and that's where al jazeera's katherine barrett is at safeco field tonight. katherine. >> this is sanders second rally within the week. and crowds are supposed to be between 15 and 20,000 strong. sanders revolutionary values resonate on the west coast and in seattle in particular. we have a socialist on the seattle city council. the $15 an hour minimum wage got kicked off here. there's a difference between clinton and sanders, that is on

the issue of trade and that difference is something that the clinton campaign for their part has tried ohighlight. oto highlight. jumbo jets, crops like wheat and apples. no state exports more on a per capita basis. that includes smaller exporters like seattle microbrewer ryan hilliard. he ships to canada and he thirsts for more. >> i like the idea of selling big containers of beer at a time instead of a case here and a case here. >> hilliard benefits from the export-import bank that helps finance american exports. >> we have export credit insurance through the xm bank that helps us secure payments from our overseas partners. >> but he and several thousand

other xm users were cut off last summer, funding dried up when a congressional battle suspended the bank's business. >> it was difficult. we were facing either our creditors, the people we had bought raw materials from that were demanding payment, we're like we don't have it yet. we're working on that with xm bank and it just didn't materialize. we did have to go to our partners and say, can you pay us early? which is a pretty grim issue to have. >> en bernie sanders was the one that be voted against it. >> what the export import bank is, boeing gets 40% of the money that is charged by the export import bank puc.

>> the ex-im bank, we need to make sure that our industries have the same ability. >> in a state where one out of three jobs derives from trade, that bank is critical. >> it's a very good thing. you have to remember, boeing has in the northwest, 80,000 jobs. engineers, aerospace machinists. these are jobs that pay very well. >> reporter: hillary clinton supports the export import bank. she in turn has been endorsed by the powerful boeing machinist union. where she spoke recently. >> here in washington this is

the life blood to makes it possible to export. >> the export import bank, which finances so much of the trade in this state, he is expected to be the win are in the caucuses. >> i think because we have a very progressive world view. everything is not tied necessarily to economic issues entirely. there's a very strong -- there's a strong amount of support for social issues. >> washington democrats will weigh in on those issues saturday. trading among themselves in caucuses to apportion the state always delegates. organizers here are hoping to convert the energy in this stadium to votes tomorrow at the caucuses. party officials expect near record turnout. they say the process by design is messy and chaotic but it is also lively and dynamic. at stake are more than 100

delegates from washington state. paul. >> certainly lively in seattle. katherine barrett, thank you. up next, controversy over an oregon canyon larger than grand canyon. and the rolling stones are performing in cuba, tonight.

>> well, millions of people flock to the grand canyon every year but a similarly beautiful canyon is awihe canyon in oreg oregon, allen schauffler explains. >> it play be the least known canyon in the lower 48. a carnlg carved basalt canyon, e

lava flows, millions of acres of sage brush and range. be where ranchers have raised cattle for 150 years. where access is limited on unimproved dirt roads. and where you could like for days, without setting foot on pavements. pavement. where outdoor enthusiasts in the know come out to play. >> i really don't want anybody to know about it. so -- i want it to be my secret. >> and it is a secret compared to so many of america's natural wonders. raise your hand if you've heard of the oyhee canyon lands. >> it is a treasure, it is a national treasure. i hope our nation recognizes that and our president recognizes that. >> a wide group is pushing

president obama to designate as much as 2 and a half million acres as a national monument which he can do under the 1906 antiquities act. preserving more than 260,000 acres of land and offshore waters, more than any other president. >> this is a presidential legacy and i think the preying on that hoping they can't get any other way. >> bob skinner's family has run cattle on government land here since the 1860s. a seventh generation is now growing up on the skinner ranch a rural setting and lifestyle increasingly under pressure. >> to preserve our way of life and our families is just absolutely important. and i'm just scared to death that we're under attack right

now. >> and oyhee national monument in malheur monument could be bigger than yellowstone national park and the concept is not big here. >> these people do not want this. >> in a recent nonbinding vote county residents went against a monument 9 to 1 but it does have solid support in oregon's distant cities, a rural divide common in the region. the political waters surrounding the be concept are a little murky in there area. republican greg walden is add plantly opposed. but the be democrats will not respond with a simple yes or no whether they support the monument concept. the recent takeover of federal wildlife offices in hearn county

county also sparked interest. liz hamilton hopes it doesn't cool political support for monument decision. designation. >> while skinner wonders a president late in his second term doesn't care about political impact. >> if they can postpone this until after november they can ride through election and the president can sign it in. >> he argues that ranching practices have changed over the years and that federal protections are already in place. that a monument designation isn't necessary and he flatly doesn't believe assurances from

loams that ranching wouldn't be be impacted. >> there's no trust anymore. >> but liz hamilton calls it fear hmong mongering. mongering. >> the last great unprotected area. >> a political and social drama playing out on a grand stage in the middle of nowhere. now, other types of protection for that area short of national monument designation would require congressional approval and funding. but the president can make that a national monument with the stroke of his pen. paul. >> beautiful country. allen schauffler, thank you. a conversation with david johansen.

al jazeera america. >> thought long ago it whereas illegal just to listen to rock 'n' roll in cuba but the times they are achangein' tonight. the rolling stones are performing an historic free concert in havana. our lucia newman has the story. >> until republican, this was the closest that a legendary rock star has come to cuba. now, the rolling stones are coming and no one wants to miss

them. >> translator: when i was her age i dreamed of going to a concert like this but it was never within our reach. >> translator: this is the first time we will see something like this. and maybe the last. we want to travel abroad to see them. >> reporter: the famous british rock band has brought in some 500 tons of equipment and will be playing before an estimated crowd of hundreds of thousands. this will be the grand finale ever the rolling stones latin american tour but only here they are performing for free. >> hola cuba. >> the stones sent a message by youtube, to the cuban people, with mic jagger speaking pretty good spanish. practically nobody has seen the video because internet access is so limited.

still, it will be an extraordinary event in so many ways. >> translator: cuba is not on the circuit of major music tours so you can imagine. also, the stones span three generations of fans. >> reporter: it's also worth remembering that for decades, the beatles and rolling stones music was banned by the communist government which called it ideologic deviation. president barack obama's visit here earlier this week was also historic. but this concert is less institutional. cuba is being embraced by a rock band that is a living legend which would seem to indicate that culturally, cuba is coming full circle. >> that's our lucia newman in havana. from the stones to another rock star tonight, david johansen is a trail blazer, making points for decades.

john siegenthaler asked him about his b career. >> we had a few hits. an we used to essentially travel around in like a van. and play almost every night. i mean i was in this van probably 250 days a year. there was a saloon that was two blocks from my house that was on 15th street and irving place called tramples. antramps. it was run by these issue e-irish guys who had good taste in music. i thought i could take this music that i'm grooving on and i'll just do four mondays. i started doing that. by the fourth monday it was kind of like a happening scene. i started doing four weekends.

i thought i'm not g.e. getting back this that van. so i kept doing buster for a while. >> during those days when you were hot in many ways, hot hot hot. ♪ ♪ >> what did you like about what you were doing? what was the biggest thrill? >> well i had been playing rock 'n' roll for a long time. and a lot of it was kind of like, you know i'm not saying this lamentably, but a lot of this is like preaching to the choir in a lot of ways. and when i started to do buster, i started playing for other kinds of people for a change, you know? ♪ it breaks my heart when you're not there ♪ >> and i had a chance to be kind of subliminally subversive in

certain ways, you know so it was interesting. >> what's different from performing now, compared to when you had success 30 years ago? >> you know i've matured in certain ways. my voice has really matured, a lot of people say that, my voice is better than it ever was. ♪ you may think i'm just a man ♪ >> i take the singing craft, the way you sing maybe is kind of unique but still i take the craft of singing a little more seriously, you know, i used to kind of like maybe take it a little more for granted like okay i'm going to sing this song now, bam bam bam. and now you know i can sing like we're doing two weeks every night at the lyle, so i can sing you know every night for two weeks. which is pretty good.

most people would have to -- >> it's hard. >> yes, it's hard on the throat. >> hard on your voice right? >> also i quit smoking a couple years ago. really helps you. >> what do people say when they come to the show? do you get a chance to talk? >> they said it was great, i thought i was going to kill myself and now you have given me the where where al wherewithal r day. >> so many people don't have the success to continue for so many years. what do you attribute that to? >> there's a certain kind of people that really can't consider doing anything else. a lot of people get into show business, i'm going to become a comedian or sing are or whatever and they might have a little success then when that kind of wanes, they think i'm going to go be a dentist or whatever i was fated to be, you know, but

there are certain people that that's all they can do. i can be maybe a milliner, i don't know what else. >> we hope you keep doing it for a long time. great to meet you. >> thank you great to be here. >> and that is our news for this hours. thank you for watching. i'm paul beban. "ali velshi on target" is next. "on target" tonight. robots in the workplace. cyber war between nations and designer babies our digital future and how it will change the way we live. get ready because the future is coming. how many times have you heard that? now you're going to hear a lot about a so-called fourth industrial revolution.