what's happening so how does your new project we keep tribune proposed to solve this problem to me. one of the things is that the advertising only business model has been incredibly destructive for journalism you see even quality news outlets are under a lot of pressure to chase after clicks which attempts people into inflammatory stories into play the headlines and a lack of seriousness and so i'm launching with the tribune with no advertising the main reason for that is to really focus the attention of the organization on saying look we need people to read to the bottom of something we've written and say wow i understand the world in a different way this is something important this is something i should contribute to and pay for so that's one element is really looking at how can we adjust the business model better element is really bringing in the community we know from the world of wikis. so on that. communities can come together and do really good quality work of course it isn't perfect nothing's perfect but that we have

a community who take things very seriously and who really try hard to get it right and i think we can generate the same thing in the world of news even though today most websites that you know the most we see of community is just you know here's the news story and at the bottom here is the horrible place where the trolls all comment and are nasty to each other and to the journalists and i think there is a better way i think there's a way to really say let's let's empower the best members of our communities to come in help participate do research. do copyediting do all the kinds of things that people can do. to do something really interesting and something new i just want to understand how this new crowd funded news website wiki tribune would work if say ten thousand people signed up to become supporters of it and stop pushing for a particular maybe random type of story will you then cover the story no matter how random it is and if so how do you then protect yourself from special interests political parties foreign governments from taking advantage of your model to use

your website to push their agendas. well this is the other element that you really do need to have balance so you need to have a strong editorial vision that is about doing quality work you know in a very thoughtful way you need to have a really robust community i mean it would be very difficult for somebody with a fake grassroots campaign to come and have any impact whatsoever with the pedia because we have a large community who are very dedicated to their more dedicated to wikipedia than they are to whatever somebody is trying to push on them but it's not automatic i mean it is about culture it is about values i don't think it's something to take lightly but i also don't think it's an insurmountable issue because on that note you of course founded wikipedia the hugely popular online encyclopedia that allows anyone theoretically to write and edit entries which makes it a pretty obvious target i would say for spreading disinformation or trying to spread disinformation in hoax stories can you say for a fact today jimmy wales that the russians didn't infiltrate the wikipedia editing community to in some shape or form during the last election yeah i can say that i

mean i'm sure somebody tried i'm sure you can find de minimus things around the edges but the point is that wiki pedia community is a very.