tv Up Front 2017 Ep 37 Al Jazeera December 9, 2017 5:32pm-6:01pm +03
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fifteen meters and then the police suddenly stopped them put up a body and said you don't have a permit you're not going any further pushed them back and at that point that is where the confrontation started the leader of egypt's coptic church has declined to meet us vice president mike pence when he visits the region later this month it's in protest over donald trump's decision to recognize jerusalem as israel's capital palestinian president mahmoud abbas is also refused to meet pence in paris people have been protesting against israel's prime minister his upcoming visit benjamin netanyahu is set to meet france's president of money on sunday micron says that it's regrettable but trump has decided to recognize jerusalem as israel's capital. the lawyer for the former president of georgia mikheil saakashvili says he's going on hunger strike he's protesting against his rearrest in ukraine four days after his supporters freedom from a police van in kiev saakashvili says that police accusations are politically motivated hundreds of thousands of rock'n'roll fans in france have been saying
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their goodbyes to their hero known as the french elvis johnny halliday's coffin was driven along the shores elisei in paris seventy four year old died on wednesday president back wrong it was a big fan delivered the eulogy at a tribute ceremony more news on al-jazeera after upfront next. he was born in ireland seventeen found himself in the middle of a political revolution in egypt i went onstage and i spoke about democracy and i was put in a cell if you packets of the people sixty people were put a hundred thousand people and so after four years imprisoned in cairo. at this time donald trump says jerusalem is the capital of israel and the palestinian authority says if that's the case the two state solution is dead but why did the palestinian leadership have so much faith in the united states to begin with i'll ask the palestinian ambassador to the u.s. and in the arena will debate how serious
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a threat the far right poses to democracy in europe. sums up what thanks for joining me on up front president trump on wednesday recognized jerusalem as the capital of israel he says that he's just recognizing reality israel says its capital israel seat of government is in jerusalem israel's parliament is in jerusalem so why shouldn't israel's closest ally the united states just recognize that reality recognized as the capital of israel actually that's exactly the opposite t. he totally. reality because the reality of the city is that it is actually all by the palestinians you're talking about three hundred eighty thousand palestinians who also live in the shaab of the mosque of the church of
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discord and what are the palestinians plan to actually do about this is that you can actually do to stop this movie you're powerless when we don't see this more. seriously affect the status of the saloon because the status of jerusalem is ensuring its people a nation enshrined in the region and islamic world and ensuring that international law and actually what that statement on one of the. is sure the real international consensus about the opposition and the criticism was actually said why is everyone so you're saying i want to say oh it's not a big deal as this is it is a big deal it is a very big deal because it's about the status of america it's about the status of the u.s. administration directing such a head on the heart of the two state solution which is also that and this vowing and actually going on a new us promise about the status of jerusalem and the two state solution is a stab in the back and is a kiss of death to the two state solution so it's a grave matter. it's a grave matter it's
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a strategic matter i want to get into some of the details you mentioned two state solution and other issues but why this the moment that the palestinian leadership has decided to say the u.s. is not an impartial broker that you know this time you know and the two state solution bill clinton back in two thousand when camp david broke down he blamed yasser arafat the palestinian for everything he says all the fault of the palestinians in two thousand and four george w. bush said to ariel sharon in a letter you can keep most of the settlements in any peace deal barack obama offered israel the biggest military aid package in history even while israel was bombing gaza twice during president none of those moments you didn't come out and say it's over now you're not impartial why now why do you sit someone say too little too late for the palestinian leadership because it was a limb is the heart of all the matter you're also limits thousands dying in gaza and that was happening with american. by israel that. was discussing politics now as far as a political strategic decision is the make it or break in jerusalem is the gate of peace or anxiety and confrontations we were we we were trying to believe and we
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were trying to hold against ok that the u.s. will come to one day to its role as a an equalizer mediator but to keep its policy which settlements are illegal find a solution is on the sixty seven borders and in the heart of that was the solution some people would say what do you have to show for coup. water of a century of peacemaker twenty five years or so of negotiation with all these locales david and what did you guess what are the palestinians getting from the dismal failure in the in the mediators side in the us the us america could not get itself to deal with the situation as a foreign policy issue as a father you have met with them every several days and you have a claim america now america what america was letting you out of it when you five years out of the palestinian leadership was standing on the americans out of hotels that you know some it's not their fault it was the america to bring these shias might have. made so many mistakes and they did commit so many mistakes but america
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did not change the rules of the game that we engaged in the middle east peace process nine hundred ninety one on it's basis two four two three three if you want security council resolutions land for peace the end of israel's occupation that began in one thousand nine hundred seven the establishment of a state of palestine independent and sovereign east jerusalem its capital the illegality of the settlements i'm talking about it in position ok. and these us policy has remained all these are now changed you know it's action so it's cutting ties with the us government on the table is an option where will you be when you stay negotiate with us no matter what no no i think the state is staying negotiating no matter what is definitely not on the edge and and they believe today so what is on the edge of that it's a self-inflicted disqualification of the us as a mediator and we believe this administration by this announcement has really delivered three big damages the first of the us start us as a mediator the second is to the ability of the us to actually bring about
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a two state solution because they aimed a shot of the heart of the two state solution which is the third they actually this empower of the constituency of peace you know the peace camp the ones the hundreds of millions in the region in the world are the ones to see and into this conflict and the import of who they are may get their nest the non-solution ist the. idealogues the terrorists who are burning families in the west bank are the settlers and the settler movement who are in control they have empowered those who do not want to see it was you. know you have to raise lethal i'll use the phrase it's a case of difficulty sort of let me ask you straight up clear this is the two state solution now dead the two state solution from the u.s. point of view and mediation is that that's not what is and is as a solution if together in the acuity council no not at all if tomorrow or today as of now we're supposed to as opposed to jerusalem can there be a two state solution i don't like the romantic statements you're talking to. let's
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not get more than i thought a lot about it was saying as under i was on the table i said if you had a solution i did i said you say you know i've got a vision you said he shot of bullet into the heart of the do you think this. my response is what is it dead it's not your analogy it's you fired a bullet is it dead it's not my limit or responsibility to actually declare such a thing i am only an ambassador so i couldn't vary the message ok so he's i america this week said chief former chief negotiator for many years for the palestinians said president trump has delivered a message to the palestinian people the two state solution is over is he being dramatic as well no no no no that's his right he is the one who deals with a two state solution he's a chief negotiator if you agree with me those are the chief negotiator of course i agree with this so it's dead. i'm just trying to get clarity on of the doomsday solution is it still an option it's called a solution right on the this is can it still solve this is what being premature this is being premature it's over no no no no give quoting your chief of the give
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to give the palestinian leadership the ability to convene very soon shortly they will convene a call has been issued that invitation to the central council of the p.l.o. let them set this is a strategic moment this is not any action that the moment the only option now available is one state for equal rights for all purposes with the state should live some clarity or live in the historic land the for the longest time from going over to the sea that's very your. now we can have a discussion the option of netanyahu over an apartheid arrangements is going to be good and the start of school is going to be rejected a lot of your just very logs in which you've come in quite dramatic to use your phrase that the two states in one state solution now there's only one state single state that's what you said the same thing that's what we will say that my presidency of president one geologist ok. this is a solution is dead then he said if netanyahu insense i'm confused if the netanyahu insists to kill and bury the two state solution the only option we will accept is four. hours of this week post jerusalem we believe there now the palestinian
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leadership the palestinian authority the p.l.o. committed to two states or one state it's a very simple question i'm just asking but you are if you know if you want to position now if i did what i know what your position on i don't want to live in is that such an announcement that was made by president trump has definitely reversible three things that the us start us as a mediator damaged the prospects for a two state solution because most of them is at the heart of it and damage the consequence of peace now what would be the consequences of that is something for the palestinian national leadership to make not for me one last question as a palestinian leader what's your message to young palestinians maybe watching the show with this interview who feel hopeless who feel desperate who feel the world is against them who feel that they'll never be free and this latest jerusalem is asian is just another blow to their hopes and aspirations what's your message to them it was a catastrophic moment it was a very helpful moment i understand but it was also a moment that we saw the opportunity
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a decision has this announcement by the president from has brought back on the national agenda be it has really brought the international consensus singling out the us administration out of the world including the pub of the vatican this is not the first time the from the balfour declaration and the british are all all the way to the announcement didn't. nothing. it's identity it's the question is will the political and. they believe. but the more important side of the story is a lot. of belief which is. thank you for joining me from. australia as always taking great pride in standing quality of life but there's a lot where you just racial disparity hiding behind the official stops produced
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this week's reality check. really it comes to come out on top in global rankings as the second wealthiest nation on the planet and the look of life expectancy education and moving we've always been lucky. wow lucky for us. it's another story entirely according to the most recent comparative study australia was ranked fourth globally in terms of its un human development index but indigenous australians alone would have come in one hundred and play not surprising given that today aboriginal life expectancy is ten years lower than health conditions have been slammed by the un as well as the third world and children are twenty six times more likely to be imprisoned and soundly young indigenous man one of the highest suicide rates in the world. it seems the legacy of colonialism. first took hold of a strain on the twenty sixth of january seventeenth
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a date that is celebrated every year as a day although some prefer to call it invasion day. the beginning of the white australia policy the name says it all and sooner or later the government began a programs of course. of indigenous people and forcibly removed one hundred thousand aboriginal children from their found. this other thing was in place until the seventy's and has been officially classified as an act of genocide and am original people were not counted in the sense this is part of the official human population and so line to the sixteenth. century long rights struggle has made strides toward justice including some recognition of land rights. that. are failing miserably and in twenty fifteen the government actually cut funding to remote aboriginal communities we can. subsidize.
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living in one of the ancestral homelands a lifestyle choice really. ones are underway to finally recognise aboriginal peoples in the constitution but unlike the us canada and new zealand australia doesn't have a treaty with its peoples it's as if operational dispossession never even happened the next time you think of picture postcard australia it's worth remembering that while all australians are born equal some of more equal than others. from france is from germany's alternative to the near no one sees of golden dawn in greece far right populists are grabbing the headlines and seem to be on the rise across europe in november tens of thousands of people joined a nationalist march in poland. and which erupted in violence so all europe's liberal values under assault at risk from the far right result duration
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all some on the left guilty of crying wolf joining me to discuss this are. all three of go back to where you came from the backlash against immigration and the fate of western democracy and david good heart in london author of the road to somewhere the populist revolt and the future of politics david thanks for joining me in the arena david we hear a lot about the rise of populist. smear nazis the far right but before we talk about the impact of that righties especially in europe how would you distinguish between these different terms phrases or are they effectively all the same thing no i don't think they are the same thing and i mean that being being able to define them clearly is part of the argument that i think we're not going to have i mean i would say that the kind of accepted definition of populist is the view that the vast majority of the people have the same interests and those of those interests are pitted against a relatively small elite controlled society in its own interest and is corrupt and
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self-serving if you can have populism of the left or you can have populism of the right. neo nazis and these sort of self-explanatory in a way it's that you know the sort thuggish street groups racist groups as you say like. straight to cairo where represent this recross the arab world the convening an emergency meeting to discuss the status of jerusalem palestinian foreign minister riyadh al maliki is speaking right now let's take a listen to them immunity and we have seen the security council meeting. and we have seen the world come true is but took the lead out of the security council members who were opposing the trump. decisions the recognize the tourism them as a capital for as well and to move the embassy from tel aviv to jerusalem this
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he makes sure that the us situation is opposing the international situation the international law and the american commitments according to what has been signed concerning the palestinian issue we have heard also the speech of president our bass immediately after the trump speech where baz has thrust the palestinian situation consequently i'm not going to repeat what has been said by president our best to assess the palestinian situation that we are. confirming it again there are some facts that we need to remind you with the state of palestine and refused categorical
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a this decision that decision of president trump. and we are not dealing with this decision we consider it as if it is not that. well the. trump decision is not a legal decision is not a little here and volume and has no impact politically and it is a reaction of the american that you view was the international low and this decision will never change the pillars of the international lo this you lay your decision about me i will never change the galaxy which is the resolution is spot and parcel of the policy and until that pres they say and this decision whether i don't like has no sick when the
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says one of the guns of the legal status of that is a limb or the rights of the palestinian people approved and the protected by the international lo strong that decision of president would trump. that he is me yet you depriving the united states of america of its role in that mediate and the peace process not the trauma decision and it has excluded the united states of america of your day in a new role in the saying being on the road or in the peace process in the middle east including its role in the cause of that committee and yet either. now the united states of america has are you so late it itself cannot bleakly
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well and the role of the in seoul to go with that rises and putting down then why what are the disputes in the middle east america is being an aggressor against the palestinian people and against the international lo of the american administration of through this decision has put itself place as party in that dispute in the not. enough america is a part of that dispute which cannot give america and a right to play any role in the peace process no. ok let me show you what i'm through what we have seen yesterday but it's why it's
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clear that the american administration has decided to isolate itself from that's a national community from that's a national low demand has chosen to be a part of them might. that do not or does not respect they it's a national low together with as well as has tried them from the declaration with the support of speed to the trumpet ministration get a little practice and pressures on so many countries to go with the suddenness session and to support their a kicked mission of jerusalem as the capital of israel and the move of the embassy from tel aviv to jerusalem israel how strong are you and try and try it and has infiltrated some news some
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liars in this country or that country has decided over is trying on the proses of moving them to say with reza limb and when we revised these countries and the names of these countries the countries said no we are still committed to the end to national and to the security council resolution and lot rick igniters in anything made by israel in jerusalem these countries have stressed that the solution should be through negotiations negotiation is that it will deal with the fire in their leashes of the peace process including jerusalem. now that we have followed the
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reactions of most of these countries the most of the world countries and we think that this particular topic is the one that set up a track to that tension and you know not only of the media and the press but also attracted the its national public opinions through statements and declarations that by just so many countries have stressed the commitment of these countries puts to the international low the international legitimacy that these countries have distance themselves from anything related to the trump decision in this regard we follow up these statements not out and we think and we see such a statement as
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a clear single clear of. support to the palestinian situation to the international low to the international legitimacy and this means that in the entire international community that is supporting the stein. of the riots of having a palestinian state with east jerusalem as a capital of the policy going to states and that america is only there with israel up this is how the situation this is the case now and we have seen that clearly we don't know yet we are here today. to. attend the emergency meeting of the out of foreign ministers holding to the. request of what joel didn't say and part of stein u.k.
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you know we're. not to discuss this matter and to see what can we do what will sieges in that actions can be taken by the arab countries by the arab league to be a joint house by the arab league. and this is very important. limits it will be preceded by a follow up committed to the arab peace initiative and what some decisions will be produced that's related to this. how we think that the most important motsa in this regard is what we have started yesterday at the security council we discussed the complaint submitted by the sets of palestine from regarding the trumpet
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decision on moving his embassy for them to live a have to do resident a well this has been the starting point that would be followed by other procedures the need to go of the ministers the arab group and the united nations in new york with prepare for a draft and this is a killer to council according to the. number six. that. stresses and asks the security council. to reject. that american request and to urge the back of the station not to do that according to the article level six hundred seventy we need. live aid to be used in this regard this is a very important point that we need to see and this is
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a killer to counsel you know a lot at the same time a woman who did what we would last. of all countries that have recognized the state of palestine to stress here that the east jerusalem is the eternal capital of the state of israel is the spiritual capital for christians and the muslims are not we will ask all the arabs which are going to have to go to terrorism and that. has a direct and the quick reaction to that trump is there's a lot in his recognition of the president as a couple of us that we need or want as our absence to move to the resolution of the because east jerusalem is the capital of israel is doesn't is now under the israeli occupation we need to support slowly data to.
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and we need to support the palestinians into risen to. and we have to be all against the trump decision to ask all the arabs all the muslims to go to is reza limb as soon as possible this is the not truth not the normal reaction of all arabs the old moslems to go to jerusalem to support the jurors and i'm here to stress that drizzling is an arab. land and it is very important to muslim and to christians and what we would also hasta the as a national community. you know your current design on.
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