i mean way down the bottom of the list and all of a sudden you've got nikki haley speaking as a fourth speaker in this debate what does happen though is that member nations may have their point made by somebody else a then withdraw their names from the list another nation may decide ok no something's been said that we need to intervene on they will at the names of the looked at it's very much a flexible situation it's the president basically who decides the running order who decides whether or not to accept any request although it is protocol in the general assembly that anybody who wants to speak is allowed to do so so very much a flexible situation is difficult sometimes to follow but there may be some kind of method in the badness giving member nations as much flexibility as possible and also what of opportunity they want to make their point in any given debate particularly this one. unlike we keep saying this is a non-binding vote but in the end it's going to have huge repercussions on the

image of the united states not the united nations and the underweight she really is is saying the u.s. as a as a major international player. well the palestinians made very clear when the vote was vetoed in the security council by the u.s. that they wanted to take it to the united nations firstly to dissuade any other nations from following the u.s. as lead and recognizing to use them as the capital of israel but also to highlight the massive divide between the u.s. and the international community on the subject the specific subject of the status of jerusalem the united nations resolutions on it very clear the resolution being debated at the moment is a reaffirmation of a number of u.n. resolutions both general assembly and security council for a long period of time i must just mention as well that in this resolution the u.s. is not mentioned by name the resolution states as did the security council

resolution earlier in the week it asked member states to refrain from recognizing jerusalem as the capital of israel and says that any such action is null and void in terms of established united nations resolutions so certainly that is that very important to publicize the aspect to it palestinians intent on showing how divided is the u.s. is from the rest of the international community but all of that being said sue we're going to be looking very closely at the vote the last time there was a general assembly vote on the matter of israel back in november this year over one hundred fifty nations voted in favor only six against including the u.s. micronesia canada now route the marshall islands and of course israel itself there were nine abstentions now if there is some kind of difference from that type of pattern then yes the threats being made by the u.s.

would have had an effect on the way members want to vote that in itself is something that's going to be discussed among u.n. members in the weeks and months ahead the behavior of the united states in attempting to sway the vote in the general assembly or as the turkish foreign minister said in his speech an attempt to buy votes. let you get back to listen to that debate now mike out the united nations well as the saying the vo will soon be held on a un resolution condemning the decision the us to recognize jerusalem as israel's capital and move its embassy there speaking out the general assembly earlier u.s. ambassador to the u.n. nikki haley says america will go ahead with the move regardless of the u.n. vote america will put our embassy in jerusalem that is what the american people want us to do and it is the right thing to do no vote in the united nations will

make any difference on that but this vote will make a difference on how americans look at the u.n. and on how we look at countries who disrespect us in the u.n. and palestine's minister for foreign affairs told the general assembly that jerusalem remains the key to peace in the middle east the subset. we meet today not because of any animosity towards the u.s. but because of a decision which constitutes an aggression on the genuine and natural right of the people of palestine and to all the muslims and christians of the world the american decision will not impact the status of jerusalem as the holy city rather it will impact the status of us as a mediator of peace. joins us now live from ramallah the other being caning watched on shore where you are but how important is it for people there to see the other nations lining up between behind the palestinians.

i think it will certainly give them a sense of satisfaction not because something will change on the ground in the near future even in the short in the middle term but simply because there is a feeling among many palestinians that you know all these peace hopes that they had or at least what they were told and what was sold to them was a bit of a farce that the jews are in the clear ration basically was a nail in the coffin in any. to end the occupation any time soon and also because they always felt all along and they've always been saying that that they felt the u.s. was never really a neutral partner. in these peace negotiations now if you speak to the leadership they will tell you that they knew all along that their own strategic interest between israel and the u.s. and the israel will always come first when it came to any administration in

washington however this jerusalem the creation went a bit too far and was seen as a humiliation really not only to the palestinian people but to the palestinian authority you have to remember that it was put in place after the accords were signed and it was supposed to be an interim body until the full peace was reached that never happened now i think also the palestinians are quite happy to see that do you and is making a move on that i know we heard danny gold and nikki haley reprimanding the u.n. saying that the u.n. has always been against israel when from the palestinian point of view it's actually a u.n. responsibility since it is the u.n. and the partition plan of the un every solution one one that actually created all this problem so these are the sort some of the opinions we hear many people will also tell you that they quite happy that this crisis has unfolded. that it was

about time for diplomacy is to go and look elsewhere as we speak now there are two high level delegations one in russia one in china mahmoud abbas probably wanted to show with this sort of diplomatic offensive that the palestinians are seriously looking for other partners when it comes to eventually start really good cheating again any kind of peace agreement even though ask anyone here and that would tell you that they would tell you that they will take years to restart if at all at the moment and we heard from the chinese member speaking just a very short while ago almost talking as if they were quite involved in the peace process that has been a delegation sent to china the palestinian president and i believe to russia. yes there these two delegations mahmoud abbas himself just landed in france he is

going to meet with the french president emmanuel mccall tomorrow and we should hear from there to what what his thoughts are about what is unfolding at the u.n. but certainly this is the. from the palestinian authority to branch out some some of the senior officials you speak to will tell you the they always wanted to do that but they always came under a lot of pressure from the u.s. directly through the u.s. from israel not to even think about it if you recall i mean in the past the e.u. has tried to have a role in the peace negotiations between the two sides but that was immediately limited by the u.s. so certainly you have that push at the moment the palestinian authority feeling that this is the time for them to reach out as much as possible and then when it comes to that specific issue they will have a lot of public support even though the palestinians also point the finger at their

own leadership for the state of affairs but when it comes to finding new avenues will finding new reaching out to new countries and finding new ideas on how to eventually have a palestinian state or who they are best will find a lot of backing how the abdel-hamid meeting is the very latest from thank you very much indeed well kerry forces joins us live from west jerusalem i'm hi i'm just keeping an eye because i think the last speaker has just finished so if i going to go for a vote i'm going to be very rude and pull away from you but just quickly from you you were talking a little earlier about the sort of the real thrust of the israeli member there talking about how those people in the chamber where pop hits now. yes they're saying certainly the donald's speech he said that the palestinians were manipulating people that they were the property years and that those who are

preparing to vote against or other sorry for this resolution would doing so unaware of the fact that the strings were being pulled by the puppet masters in ramallah which was one of the more sort of extreme narratives that has come from the israeli representatives in all of this i think the genuine idea of the general idea from both him and from the prime minister of the israeli government more generally is that they recognize that this vote is only likely to go one way particularly in the light of what happened in the security council earlier this week a fourteen to one vote in favor of a similar resolution blocked by the u.s. veto and so what both benjamin netanyahu and his representative in new york is doing is trying to sort of say that this doesn't matter that really this is more sound and fury from the u.n. signifying very little indeed that eventually every country will come to the same position as united states recognizing what israel says is the plain fact of the

jewish claim on jerusalem the fact that the did is the capital of the jewish people has been for three thousand years citing king david citing the number of times the jerusalem was mentioned in the bible and citing that israel has the it says it has the right to declare its own capital as a sovereign state of course from that perspective ignoring the fact that the international community since the creation of the state of israel since before the creation of the state of israel it vision jerusalem as a separate entity an international city and certainly until this declaration from donald trump the preponderance the almost international consensus was that jerusalem is final status had to be negotiated in a two state solution and that there should be no. prejudgment of that by any single state very very fierce was by that i don't know the chain but do you get any sense back where you all are but actually rio bahrain bangladesh the pleura national

state of bolivia brunei dar es salaam. djibouti ecuador egypt gambia indonesia iraq jordan kuwait lebanon libya malaysia motives mauritania morocco oman pakistan qatar saudi arabia senegal sudan syrian arab republic tunisia united arab emirates uzbekistan bolivarian republic of venezuela and state of palestine i would also like to inform delegations that afghanistan and mali have withdrawn their sponsorship if any other countries wish to co-sponsor a smash slash ten slash l twenty two please signify now by pressing the

microphone button south africa. and somalia have also joined the list of delegations co-sponsoring the resolution and democratic democratic republic of korea. and others thank you mr president thank you i recorded vote has been requested we shall now begin the voting process those in favor of draft resolution a sledge dash time flesh l. twenty two police signifying those against abstentions. the general assembly is now voting on draft resolution

a slash nashton slash l twenty two intitled status of jerusalem will all delegations confirm that their votes are accurately reflected on the screen the voting has been completed please lock the machine. the result of the vote is as follows in favor one hundred twenty eight against nine abstentions thirty five draft resolution

a sledge years dashed ten l. twenty two is adopted. before giving the floor for explanations of vote after the vote may remind delegations that explanation of vote are limited to ten minutes and should be made by delegation from their seats i now give the floor to estonia on behalf of a group of countries so we sound in savor of the resolution by a hundred and twenty votes in favor nine against and thirty five abstentions let's go straight over to mike hanna the united nations an enormous figure mike says a surprise that so many abstained. well yes that is that is a big movement in the abstention vote from the last general assembly vote that was

held on israel and its occupation of jerusalem on that particular occasion only nine nations voted here you've got thirty five nations abstaining you also had on that previous motion back in november you had only six opposed here there are now nine opposed to the vote so that being said though it's still a massive vote in favor far above the two thirds majority that is needed to pass this resolution one hundred twenty eight in favor and nine against thirty five abstentions so the resolution is passed. reaffirming what has been longstanding u.n. policy on the status of jerusalem calling on no member nation to open a diplomatic mission in jerusalem and also saying that in the un's view at least in the view of the general assembly any such move would be regarded as legally novel

and void so a response there to president trump a very strong reprints one may say at the other hand though that number of extension abstentions thirty five abstentions a sign that the campaign waged by the united states in proceeding days threatening to withdraw aid that come to countries that vote may will have produced this increase in the number of abstentions and certainly led to at least one or two of those votes against being delivered in accordance with the u.s. demands rather than wishes u.s. action which will come and post scrutiny in the weeks and months ahead questions will be asked about the protocol or the abuse of pota grohl by a member nation attempting to alter the votes in a security general in. will assemble the resolution or as the turkish foreign minister put it to actually buy votes in this type of procedure and just quickly

mike do we now expect to see nikki haley come out to speak again to the press are we likely to get more barbed comments do you think after they vote went against her . well i suspect so she left shortly after she delivered her speech in that general assembly debate and certain whether she did return obviously there would have been a representative there for that particular vote yes she is likely to appear before the media in the hours days ahead repeating what she has been stating in recent days and what she stated during this particular debate that the resolution is an affront and an insult to the united states that it abrogates its sovereignty to decide where it can establish a capital in whatever nation it wishes to do and basically repeating her litany

of abuse at the united nations in terms of calling the body a biased body in respect to its dealings with israel so yes she will be heard from possibility to the after she might speak again in the next hour or so explaining her vote as all members are able to do we hear even now seeing australia explaining its vote there will be a number of nations speaking from their seats rather than from the podium who will be saying why they voted the way they did these particular speeches limited to ten minutes unlike the speeches from the podium many thanks mike hanna there bringing as the latest on that breaking news that the resolution has passed by one hundred twenty eight votes well out of there a senior political analyst now in the shower joins me now in the studio and you can hear king eye on him about it again this do we learn anything from the people that did actually put their red marker down actually. if i paid attention to the names

of one during and guatemala yes i think there were there are countries that abstained on the november thirtieth resolution for so that their mission of person people this time they actually voted against and. you know you can see the american pressure so in so many ways it's clear because what i was looking for is how much will the vote prove the administration to be a bully or silly so i think we have thirty five abstentions to prove that it is a bully and we have hundred twenty eight votes that shows it to be silly in the sense that despite the intimidation despite the threats. that hundred twenty eight countries came out and voted for the solution now this really ambassador argues that these countries are many predicted by pakistan or by the palestinians so i pose the question what is it more likely that the united states is manipulated by

israel or the world is manipulated by palestine i think we'll let our viewers answer that it's almost given as a matter of those countries that support donald trump in some way or other and those that are completely standing firm with the palestinians i suppose what we're going to look for now is what happens next because all these threats that americans will pull a will feel cease to see the u.n. in the same way there's going to be a shift in some description it's interesting if you're not just just towards the end the president of the general assembly or his assistants were saying something about that afghanistan and mali pulled out of the core sponsorship of the resolution which certainly means they got the heat from the trump administration and my guess is they would have stains afghanistan of course you know if you would have left the even for which every lead that in afghanistan from the taliban to the more scrutiny of the administration i'm sure they would have voted and here by the

way i'm just a need to underline something most of these countries that not vote for palestine they voted for international legality they voted for what they sow is a violation of international law because and then the day the resolution starts by naming eight or nine u.n. security council resolutions where the united states either voted for or abstained meaning they are united united nations security council resolutions saying that the that israel cannot annex is jerusalem that cannot export its own population to east jerusalem that israel cannot continue with the settlement building in east jerusalem that israel cannot. let palestinians outside east jerusalem so all in all one hundred twenty eight countries really voted for international law and they shall i thank you very much for your thoughts. well herefore thick joins us live from west jerusalem or so a fairy resoundingly decision there that's not going to go down well where you are

you know as i was saying before i think it's been expected there may well be some spin coming from the israeli side saying that as marwan and you were noting that the numbers were down from the last resolution at the end of november in terms of support for the palestinian side of the argument so there might be some attempt to to put some credit on the israeli lobbying efforts and indeed benjamin measurement and you know who's a longer term strategy of trying to build stronger bilateral ties with countries around the world in order to try to get at least in part more favorable hearings at the u.n. nonetheless this is a hugely one sided vote against the u.s. declaration and it is something that will further isolate israel in terms of its international position but we can only expect the israeli government will come back

as strongly as it has been in advance of this is essentially saying that it doesn't matter repudiating this vote even before it took place and one of the other questions we've been asking obviously is what happens with the peace process what the stage is realistically in at the moment and this suggestion maybe that other help can come from other places like china like russia and is that something that the men in netanyahu would welcome or indeed accept. i think not at this stage the the official line from the israeli government is that they are ready to talk at any time with the palestinians however the the whole framework under which that that sort of constant message at the same time of course the palestinians would say that israel is acting in in real terms entirely in opposition to that position and terms of its of its operations inside the occupied

west bank and elsewhere but nonetheless the whole framework of that is under the guise of the u.s. led process and indeed jason the u.s. envoy has been back here in the region this week to try to continue that process so for as far as the peace process as it's been happening which it really hasn't been happening over the last few years the palestinians are saying that is over and so it really does require a huge shift in terms international community to get behind any alternative what was interesting was that when but he was in paris recently just before his trip to brussels the french president emmanuel mccrone was saying let's wait in while condemning the u.s. declaration about jerusalem he was still saying let's wait and see what the trouble ministration comes up with in terms of its framework for renewed negotiations so it does seem for now at least that the european nations more broadly are in favor of

continuing the track which so far hasn't worked in which the palestinians have recently totally rejected many thanks good to get your thoughts there harry forces in west jerusalem where not that far away from you not at least jay graphically is how the abdel-hamid in ramallah live for us a moment to show just saying here hold up that this was a vote on international law but in the end the the four lout is going to be felt very keenly aware you are they must now feel emboldened by best hugely that wanting victory. yes they would be emboldened by this resoundingly victory but there's a lot more to be done especially when you are facing a population that is growing and patient and angry or you know ever since the trump declaration there have been confrontations and clashes with the israeli soldiers not big but only

a daily basis in multiple parts of the occupied west bank and that. set to continue for the foreseeable future so you do have a sense that really anything can make a situation the situation here explode further and people are quite worried about that now that mahmoud abbas and his advisors and aides are under a lot of pressure them been going through a really a diplomatic offensive wherever they can around the world mahmoud abbas has been traveling tyrus tirelessly he's in france at the moment he is due at some point to go to moscow to meet with vladimir putin as you said earlier this to their high level delegations and in russia and china but as also harry was saying you know students are saying we want someone else to be the mediator in these peace negotiations maybe not just one country but

a group of countries do united nation that it becomes an international effort since after all as many officials tell you now the problem started at the united nations itself back sixty or seventy years ago now but will they manage to do that it's going to be very difficult they do have commented as you say this vote certainly emboldens them but on the other side you have a prime minister netanyahu and he's made it very clear that at the moment do you as is the prime negotiator as far as they see it's actually i was in east. drew them earlier today and you see these big boosters now. thank you president trump for making israel great again so you can see just the divide between to do size how big it is and it's already been very difficult in the past and now it's probably much more difficult. in the the sort of assembly when they were speaking

before the vote nikki haley the u.s. ambassador to the u.n. said it doesn't matter how they spoke those we're still going to move the embassy as far as the other nations are concerned they're not following suit so how much how much how important really is it if it's just the u.s. embassy and nobody else moves across there how how upset you think the palestinians will be about one embassy. i think they won't be very upset i mean i've been asking that same question over and over again ever since drumstick liberation i even asked many palestinians how come we didn't have this big explosion that everybody was expecting. and they say well you know the opinion of the us doesn't matter to us it can move its embassy the reality on the ground remains the same east jerusalem is ok we are living under occupation and we will continue to consider east jerusalem as the capital our

future states as far as the palestinians are concerned at this particular moment the u.s. can say whatever it wants to do whatever it wants but specially after today's vote they will feel emboldened that they have a lot of countries around the planet who are on their side and something that doesn't happen very often according to palestinians so they have that on their side at the moment at least they're satisfied that their complaints about id were well received and understood by many in the international community and whoever you will ask will continue telling it tell you that it doesn't change anything for them whatever trump has declared and whenever the embassy will move or not they will continue looking at least use of them as their capital of a future palestinian state whenever that happens many things how that does mean that with the very latest on this breaking news from ramallah well i'm now joined

by a man when bashar who is our senior political adviser just picking up a little bit more hold it was saying that it really looks like this one embassy is going to move to jerusalem if nikki haley is to be believed but the rest of the nations that voted against will stay put so what. and it seems if we listen to rick steller son and the secretary of state it's not going to happen in the next two three years for various reasons security and others so really all in all we go back to square one all right so it's the idea that the whole decision was based on expediency was based on trump's attempts to please his base among radical evangelical christians and is of the lobby this has nothing to do with peace in the middle east it has nothing to do with security in the middle east and apparently it has little to do with american leadership in the middle east or throughout the world because last monday when we were sitting here watching the vote at the

united nations security council as well as trumps a speech about the national security strategy of the united states trump or saying america is leading against in the world and the other frame was fourteen votes against one vote by the united states at the u.n. security council so really great humiliation for the united states at the united nations foundation i thank you very much for something that's up stay with us here on al-jazeera next up it's inside so it will be about the full news hour in about twenty five minutes away.

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