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when doctors prescribe the forest instead of medicine. what makes this moment this era we're living through so unique this is really an attack on itself is a lot of misunderstanding a distortion even of what free speech is supposed to be about the context it's hugely important to have a right to publish if you have a duty to be offensive or provoked it's all about you guys people do setting the stage for a serious debate. up front at this time on al-jazeera. and i make the headlines here on al-jazeera and politicians in the united states have reached an agreement to end the federal shutdown which came into effect at midnight on friday nonessential government services have been closed across the united states for three days senators from donald trump's republican party and the
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opposition democrats have now struck a temporary deal to restart government funding. well the shutdown began when both parties failed to agree a budgets in a row over immigration and democrats are unhappy that the republicans are repealing a bill that prevents the children of illegal immigrants being deported but it has more now from capitol hill. it appears this latest u.s. government partial shutdown will last about three days the senate has passed a key vote they're going to pass the c.r. they just a little bit when it goes to the house it is likely the president will sign it but it's only a brief for free it only funds the government for three weeks what democrats got out of it is a promise that they will take up an immigration bill after this deadline but now the hard part they have to once again try to figure out a budget that is something that seems to have eluded this congress so far the senate democratic leader made a point of the fact that the deal had been struck with no presidential involvement
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since our meeting in the oval office on friday the president and i have not spoken and the white house refused to engage in negotiations over the weekend the great deal making president sat on the sidelines despite and because of this frustration i've been having conversations with the republican leader over the weekend about a path forward after several discussions offers counteroffers the republican leader and i have come to an arrangement but i response white house spokesperson sarah huckabee saunders i read out a statement from president trump. quote i am pleased that democrats in congress have come to their senses and are now willing to fund our great military border patrol first responders and insurance for vulnerable children as i've always said once the government is funded my administration will work toward solving the problem of very unfair illegal immigration we will make
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a long term deal on immigration if and only if it's good for our country including the u.s. vice president has told israel's parliament the u.s. will move its embassy from tel aviv to jerusalem by the end of next year my presence made the announcement during a speech to israel's knesset switch was initially interrupted by protesting israeli palestinian politicians palestinian officials have reacted angrily to the nose when saying it was a gift to extremists. for while the united states recognized your nation one and ministration after another refused to recognize your capital but just last month. president donald trump made history he righted a seventy year wrong he kept his word to the american people when he announced that the united states of america will finally acknowledge jerusalem is israel's capital . where palestinians president mahmoud abbas refused to meet instead he's been in
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brussels where the e.u.'s foreign policy chief has reassured him the block is firmly committed to a two state solution with these jerusalem as the palestinian capital about us is also urging the european union to recognize the state of palestine. it's like he's president insists his military will take control of the kurdish held enclave of african in northern syria as it batters the area with croft and ground forces turkish forces and their free syrian army have opened up a second front against the syrian kurdish white b.g. fighters in the town of is that in the east of the freed enclave why p.g. is a u.s. ally group that he could sit as terrorists. well lovable star george ware has replaced africa's first female head of state as liberia's new president has been sworn in to winning by a landslide against vice president joseph prakash in december succeeds nobel peace
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prize winner and then johnson sirleaf in the library his first peaceful transition of power since the one nine hundred forty for them today with headlines there with its face to face jobs and gates coming up. tonight in a sense grew up together we were within ear of the same age and we were kind of naively optimistic and built big company and most of it as rivals but we always retained a certain respect communication including even when he was sacked i got to go down and spend time with steve joel the man of many line wonderkid rebel a sort of new age guru of high tech. bill gates the
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richest man in the world a relentless achiever fueled by dreams of greatness. to supernovas who synergy and rivalry led to the creation of a binary system with a friendly i don't think they called each other say no it's my birthday happy birthday i don't think it was that kind of relationship and microsoft just you know that it's mcdonald's the only thing they had in common was having dropped out of school to pursue their vision of a dream though they never worked in the same company they created an industry together and we had a hippie at a nerd. gates and jobs the mightiest jewel of the tech industry has ever known the epic battle between mac and p.c.
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jobs the hippie and gates the geek literally dictated the future of the computer. in the seventy's steve jobs and bill gates are still adolescents video games are just starting to appear computers still are enormous machines super computers that only the largest companies can afford a market dominated by the american multinational i.b.m. . a native of seattle and son of a well off family bill gates enjoys creating computer programs and software during his high school and university days with his friend paul allen. and bill gates and paul allen they were after harvard and at a computer store at the bookstore in harvard square there was a magazine popular electronics january one thousand seventy five and it had a picture of the l. tear on a cover that was the gun that was fired the start of the race for them
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the ultimate or the dinosaur of personal computer whose a rudimentary tool a mix of total switches and flashing lights it is reborn thanks to bill gates and paul allen by creating a programming language for the ultima called basic they provide it with intelligence. level lucia knowing. the languages thing was what they were passionate about bill gates and paul allen's goal in one hundred seventy five was to dominate the languages business on personal computers that's why they left harvard immediately afterwards in april nine hundred seventy five gates and allen start their company microsoft the purpose is to sell basic but above all to develop new soft. here for future computers also one thousand nine hundred seventy five in palo alto california another do you steve jobs and steve wozniak high school students who are fans of this new technology also discovered the ultimate h.
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the stone of an epic journey. steve was you know he looked at that delta air for him this was not elegant and there were too many chips the thing was too big so immediately what was was doing as ed was saying i can design a computer all on one board this would be the one was in jokes of the first to succeed in putting all of the components that make a computer hooked onto a single board power supply keyboard and memory all connected to screen the two friends have just invented the personal computer making out the one was purely was his idea and it was purely his design but once he showed it to his good friend steve jobs steve is the marketing person that you see. we can make money. but for now the apple one is being manufactured in the jobs family go ron.
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i'm pretty much the only person who worked in the garage at least on the apple line . steve jobs was on the phone all the time he was in the kitchen on the phone and i was in the garage testing up on boards one year after the founding of microsoft the apple computer company is established in april nine hundred seventy six microsoft and apple the two pillars of the computer revolution they both. believe computers were not just important but crucial. and. and yet they they both had a very different way of going after it jobs was coming from hardware and and gates was coming at it from software and that was so they came at it from two different directions but they both. were very strong minded
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men who believed they were they were changing the world while bill gates continues to develop his basic the silicon valley do you will push ahead steve wozniak develops the apple two steve jobs looks for investors so that he can grow his young company. impressed by jokes angel investor mike markham invests two hundred fifty thousand dollars in which expands and moves to cupertino where its headquarters are still located today. the how many calculators you ought to marry and you have to use the automatic bank telling machines sure so life is already seducing you into learning the stuff and it's certainly not an eight nine hundred eighty four ish biz vision at all it's just going to be very gradual and very human and will seduce you into learning how
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to use jobs and was unveiled their new computer in the spring of one thousand nine hundred seventy seven at the computer fair in san francisco the apple two is a smash hit. the apple two was a huge that it was actually really the first usable personal computer the apple two always you know i always thought it was magical because you could do almost anything you thought of if he were creative enough the apple to the first personal computer designed for the general public the sales are phenomenal it in bodies the computer revolution but it has a serious handicap and the person who has the solution is bill gates was the acro version of basic but it wasn't. completely up to date that was a certain aspect of it that wasn't in there so they began looking around for another version of basic that ran on that ship that the apple two used and
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microsoft was a company that had it so they got in touch with bill gates. with basic microsoft supplies with the apple two locks this is the first collaboration between bill gates and steve jobs but at the end of the seventy's thanks to the success of the aapl to the spotlight is on steve jobs and then in one nine hundred eighty they went public so there are all these people have stock that got very rich and it was one of the first public companies in the personal computer space where people got rich so then people turn to really paying attention what's it like to get rich it's very interesting i was worth. about over a million dollars when i was twenty three and over ten million dollars when i was twenty four and over one hundred million dollars when i was twenty five but. especially the play in my life it was it was not the most important thing the most
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important thing was the company the people the products we were making the products also the obsession of. his vision of a world organized a run software. there's a lot of people who are forecasting that they'll be software stores just like their record stores today and that they'll be thousands and thousands of those and i think i'd have to agree with that or mine of those first product was basic and that was sold to apple and that was sold to radio shack and commodore they were all customers so he already was doing business with sort of everybody that was trying to make personal computers he was the first person to really have the idea of a software company separately from a hardware company and that maybe the software company was going to create more value the hard work. but apple was the big elephant you know bill gates was the mouse so bill gates being that position he was
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a scheming you know strategic guy and he managed to work his company up despite the fact that the giants of the personal computer business apple and to some extent in i.b.m. were giants and he had to get his software on to them in order to grow his company . i.b.m. the computer hardware giant soon entered the new personal computer market but computing was a nothing without software so i.b.m. known as big blue tones to bill gates who seizes the opportunity and in one thousand nine hundred eighty signs of a lucrative contract with i.b.m. his new computer operating system would run on all i.b.m. p.c.'s and most dos is the backbone of the p.c. and it makes the computer easier to use. the smartest thing he did maybe the smartest thing he ever did in the computer business was that he got
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i.b.m. to sign a deal that gave him a one time payment but allowed him to license it other people who might clone i b m's peacey. i b.m. did not really think anybody else was in a successfully clone their p.c. so they didn't care it's bill gates's must have strong in addition to his contract with i.b.m. he retains the right to sell his computer operating system to any of big leagues competitors bingo with dos gates sets the software standard for the entire p.c. industry i'd say within six months of him doing the i.b.m. deal. everybody in seoul can value about microsoft. in the early eighties steve jobs and bill gates are still under thirty two key
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players in a rapidly expanding industry meteoric success stories for two very different personalities. robert cringely knew both men well he worked with gates and jobs starting in the late seventy's a former staff member at apple he switched to journalism and for more than thirty years has written about their rivalry with bill was always about the money with steve it was never about the money and money is nice but it was never about them i am so that that made them black and white you know up the dow up because they were there very very different people i hired steve jobs at atari when i think hughes ninety. he was very sure of himself and was quick to judge whether he thought you were smart or dumb and if he thought you were dumb he was good to dismiss it even if you were his
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supervisor he he was very good at knowing what he wanted and he would just steamroll you into doing it and he definitely relied on his instincts a lot he relied on his gut he talked about that all the time and that's a certain type of spiritual dimension of being into being you know we had read books about for instance gordon chief a famous russian spiritual master who was always talking about integration and the horror of this which means using all your faculties which means using your third eye of vision. in the seventies like many of the hippies at the time steve jobs and his friends daniel costa leave to go to india the trip is a rite of passage a search for spiritual wisdom. we were looking for
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a wise man who had secrets of knowledge for us. nothing really much happened to us we did not find the guru we hoped we would find. steve would talk about all this. spiritual stuff and yet he could be a cool person you know he he he had a real troubles with intimacy he couldn't allow himself to get close to people. i don't know why you know he loved the idea of spiritual ism but to live it was hard for him. and bill is just geeky you know he's he he's just a very nerdy guy and as such in especially his early years he had problems communicating and being understood and his family didn't know what to do with them
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and he found his niche in business and technology and succeeding just on the basis of brainpower steve jobs and much better marketeers than more than bill gates was but he was not really that technical he was not a technical code writer bill gates could write code and write good code bill just different he led with the data and with the inside in the technology of the idea were steve led with you know what's it feel like to look like you know so. much more technical much more marketing where we are one. in one recent one. was.
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produced. in one thousand nine hundred forty jobs the king of marketing unleashes a groundbreaking advertising campaign this is to promote his newest creation the legendary macintosh a rampart against the our well in world of the giant i.b.m. after the macintosh nothing would ever be the same again simpler operating features new design the most appears and the graphics interface those little windows that make life so much easier these innovations combined with software developed by microsoft like excel and word make the mag an overwhelming success in fact bill gates becomes a key figure in promoting the mac for years now it's a great machine it's a step forward in terms of the way users graphics and the speed of. business machine a lot of people are going to be able to afford that's a very very useful machine there was
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a lot of collaboration on the back there was microsoft roads really great. things for the for the muck you know excel came out first on the map the atmosphere was fine when he came i remember the first couple times remember that we were not competitors at all at that point they were our allies and helping making the macintosh happen so we got along very well with them they were similar to us in many ways. brought down to the macintosh software dating game. software c.e.o.'s could i please ask you to introduce yourself in a power to be of the dating game hosted by jobs the contestants of the software producers who contributed to the success of the my name is bill gates i'm chairman of microsoft and during one nine hundred eighty four microsoft expects to get half of its revenues are macintosh. behind the smiling facade
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steve jobs place the king and treats bill gates like a vassal for making numbers three describe your ideal relationship with apple. would be so in our software independently so the key thing is that apple gets a lot of consistent standard machines out there quickly i spent the whole time two days in a y. e with bill being ignored. we were treated like some crappy little it was like the most oh it was horrible we want for a walk bill and i went for a walk all the way the diamond head and back on the beach talking about how screwed we were. what we're going to do lotus going to sell us we are so let's show we had work prostin to excel we're just like we're just excel saturday extra because they were just blown us off for it. bill gates is bitter but we tains his foresight the monks were nuns graphics interface represents
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the future of personal computer without a qualm he makes his move you know i didn't trust bill gates you know while we were working on the macintosh i was one of the first people apple to catch on to the fact that microsoft was cloning the macintosh they were making their own version of the macintosh operating system. i was always on the phone with a fellow who was in charge of microsoft's application software he was asking me questions about how the macintosh system software work that he didn't need to know to do what he was doing so i kind of caught on to the idea hey there being the mac. i told steve he wasn't worried about it at all jobs is in reached when he learns that microsoft is launching a new operating system windows there was a pretty strong disagreement with windows game you know then that was probably of all of the things that are absolutely comes out was the that was the thing that
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that upset out of the most the not so good people so they're also the lawyers. and the summit and certainly you know i'm sure upset steve to some some extent. he was very upset and his first reaction was get bill gates down here tomorrow and i thought well boy you can't just call your competitor down it might take a week or so. i think i was amazed or was there the very next day. i was very impressed by bill gates because there was an extremely angry steve jobs in there and there are maybe eight or ten other apple people but just bill from microsoft no entourage no one there with angry steve jobs pouring down them just yelling at him you trade us how can you how can you be trained and bill gates as cool as can be said back well steve that's one way of looking at it i have
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another way of looking at it he knew that the graphical user interface was the future of computing and so if he wanted to be to remain in you know dos was everything dos was huge but he knew that if he didn't do windows he'd be out of business. bill gates goes on the offensive job so ready had a taste of this when renewing licensing for basic which he quipped apple two still cupertino is best selling computer it's the end of their collaboration no it's open warfare they have a go she ation and bill held out for a extremely high price that he didn't expect to get and steve sell trapped and so he paid bill what bill asked. he overpay for the contract extension of. microsoft basic they made so much money from that
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apple contract that they devoted the excess money the money they never expected to get to creating an international business we always talk about companies plane cats it's a chess game well everybody else was playing chess bill was playing three dimensional chess he already had his move on another board already calculated from three moves on the previous board so if you look at the fact that microsoft more than half of microsoft's business is now outside of america that wouldn't have happened without apple were. the. gates increasing success job's becomes even more of a megalomaniac the world's no revolves around him he creates his own personality cult the machine that he's he is and it literally recognizes him as its father.
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and a great huge list and showed it was going through. that i introduced a man who didn't make a. speed. oh i think if you talk to a lot of people on the mac team they will tell you. it was the hardest they've ever worked in their life some of them will tell you it was you know the happiest they've ever been in their life but i think all of them will tell you that is certainly one of the most intense and cherish experiences they will ever have an. idea so. you know. some of those things you are not sustainable for some people. personal stories of lebanese villages on the border with israel the line runs
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i mean i think. it's the skit election and they kept pulling out oh the stars. i can make you happy if. i. tell him he's telling me as a. father vote this time. around the clock in line with the top stories here all the politicians in the united states have reached an agreement to end the federal shutdown which came into effect at midnight on friday so it's from donald trump's republican party and the opposition democrats have now struck a temporary deal to restart government funding the essential government services
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have been closed for three days since the policies failed to agree budget in there were in a rally i should say of immigration policy but it has more now from capitol hill. it appears this latest u.s. government partial shutdown will last about three days the senate has passed a key vote they're going to pass the c.r. just a little bit then it goes to the house it is likely the president will sign it but it's only a brief for free it only funds the government for three weeks what democrats got out of it is a promise that they will take up an immigration bill after this deadline but now the hard part they have to once again try to figure out a budget that is something that seems to have eluded this congress so far the u.s. vice president has told israel's parliament the united states will move its embassy from tel aviv to jerusalem by the end of next year mike pence made the announcement during a speech to israel's knesset switch was initially interrupted by protesting israeli palestinian politicians palestinian officials who reacted angrily to the
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announcement saying it was a gift to extremists. well palestine's president mahmoud abbas he refused to meet pence spent the day in brussels where the e.u. foreign policy chief reassured him that the block is committed to a two state solution with east jerusalem as the palestinian capital of basses the european union to recognize the state of palestine. turkey's president insists his military will take control of the kurdish held enclave of africa in northern syria turkish forces and free syrian army allies have opened up a second front against syrian kurdish y p g fighters in the town of his eyes in the east of the african enclave y p g is a us allied group it tacky considers terrorists former football star george where has replaced africa's first female head of state as liberia's new president he's
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been sworn in off the winning by a landslide to gates vice president joseph in december where you have to take the headlines on face to face continues right now. a difficult and move curio leader those close to steve jobs describe him as unapologetically pragmatic a dictator who ruled by instinct more than loyalty he believed in very small groups of people being questioned or greatness and that was in part because he felt that he could all the. lead i have told people at most and so why not lead the best sample so he was constantly trying to figure out who is the best ever you know i was fired by steve jobs three times i was fired because i was kept
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dropping out of the best. i'm john sculley brother of apple in one thousand nine hundred three steve jobs lures joan sculley away from pepsi cola to become c.e.o. of apple with this legendary phrase you want to keep selling sugar water all your life or do you want to come with me and change the world they start off as the perfect do you want to do to mediocre mac sales combined with jobs increasingly to run ical counted to the honeymoon is soon over. it came down to eventual be on the board of a war between john sculley and steve jobs in the end because steve jobs had actually burned out so many people and created so much animosity and fear about himself when the board came to
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a vote it was almost like the entire company voted that when they would rather not have steve jobs around anymore. tell us about your departure from that. it was very painful i'm not even sure i want to talk about it. what can i say i had the wrong guy that was stolen. and. he destroyed everything i spent ten years working for and a friend of mine who was working at apple that day the day that steve left and they were all called out of their offices and they all assembled down on the in the parking lot and sat on the curb and everything and they were. told our one of our you know our founder steve jobs is leaving the company and nobody care they're like good good we can get our work done with all of this craziness and madness and nobody cared. for steve jobs his eviction from apple in one nine hundred eighty
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five it feels like the tragic end of a love story he has been robbed of his child soon afterward using his own money he creates a new company next he is going to prove to everyone that he doesn't need outpolling and will continue to revolutionize the world of computers in his own mind he was the sole genius behind apple stores but we got it right now thanks. to mr because he needed friends he needed people to help. and microsoft never did anything for me. but they didn't oppose next either you know bill didn't seem next as a factor. he didn't see he didn't seem next as good as being evil having the success and so he didn't have to oppose it.
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first thing to look at in this product is the user interface that's perhaps the most important thing about this product this is the user interface of windows two point zero of windows in the late eighty's after a basic and dos bill gates wanted his new operating system windows to become the standard system worldwide roland hansen is the man who made bill gates the software industry's number one media figure and it's also due to this marketing wizard that windows the graphics into fees which would conquer the world owes its name. we realized that the opinion really not or they weren't calling these buoys none of these right we're calling them goodies anymore they were calling them all windowing systems because they were creating windows on the screen. or is it a holy crap if these are all we're doing systems there's only one name we can
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be we have to be microsoft windows. well windows ninety five is so easy even a talk show host figured out. windows was an affront. to jobs windows was an insult to jobs. distant relative of mine windows in just ten years is installed in almost all computers on the market gaining monetary success with windows ninety five gates and the p.c. definitively dethrone the mac. if you make out grown man cry. windows was
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a way to move everything that he wanted to do forward it was. the foundation for everything that followed. that was one of the windows ninety eight came out real revolution personal computer windows as you point out as are ninety percent of the computers around the world i mean today still is a phenomenal fact. and i don't see that changing anytime soon with the fantastic success of windows ninety five the geek from seattle becomes the monster of software and also the richest man in the world interviewed at the time by robert cringely steve jobs expresses his contempt in a few stinging words he describes what caused the break between him and his old wife the only problem of microsoft is they just have no taste they have absolutely no taste and. that means is that i don't mean that in a small way i mean in the big way. so i guess. i am saddened not by
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microsoft's success i have no problem with their success they've earned their success for the most part i have a problem with the fact that they just make really third rate products their products have no spirit to them the. the steve decided that. maybe he had gone too far so he called he called bill up on the phone to apologize and he said he said bill. you know i saw the documentary you know i think i think maybe maybe i shouldn't have said that publicly about about having no tastes and and bill said well thank you steve you know our really want to thank you for doing that i think you went too far and then bill said and then steve said but it's true you know you
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have no. i mean i should've said it publicly but you know it's true and bill said steve i may have no taste but you said my whole company as though it's case. after the failure of next and by the success of his rival bill gates jobs gets back on his feet by investing in pixar a computer animation film company that would become a good mine and as usual he takes food credit for it. but when i first met ed catmull who ran the computer division of lucas film who i founded pixar with we did it together. ed showed me what they were working on and i was i was blown away in the graphics were you know years beyond anything i'd ever seen before and he told me of his dream to make the first computer animated feature film and i bought into that dream both sort of emotionally and financially and we
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found at pixar. it's just wrong you know it's just wrong that's the part of the marketing story that he sold about himself which is a good story but it's just wrong he's not pixar these the money of pixar he seductively narcissistic articulate something just not right there but. whenever he wants to sell some boy does he do it including himself in one thousand nine hundred ninety five toy story is the first fully computer run emitted film to become a blockbuster it paves the way for pics on his continued success propelling a triumphant steve jobs to center stage once again and here's where steve did something he was really good at he grabbed the moment. and he took the company public. based on nothing we had basically no cash. we just had this movie and then
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your critics it was going to be good and he took this is where he can sell something right he took that idea and sold it to pixar public became a billionaire overnight ten years after job's departure apple still hasn't recovered the company is on the verge of bankruptcy one last card to play the return of the wonder boy apple appoints jobs as c.e.o. i buy since former failing company next when he came back to apple in nine hundred ninety six he was a much more mature much better you know he'd gone through a success of one company with a failure of another so he had left his youthful craziness behind it. i think is one of the greatest turnarounds in the history of of any industry in any country anywhere to have a man come back to a company that was really going down very rapidly. in very bad shape and
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then pull off that success that he did something half of it that that did changed and what i believe it was was that for the first time it was his money next it was his money he was losing at apple it was arthur rock's money you know it was the it was the public's money it was wall street's money it wasn't real money. i view to his return to apple steve jobs back into mind develops i'm new plan of action an occasion to make an amazing the known small to his adoring public. and i'd like to announce one of our first partnerships today a very very meaningful one and that is one with microsoft. the discussions actually began because there was some. patent disputes and rather than now i know. rather
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than now repeating history i'm extremely proud of both companies that they have resolved these differences in a very very professional way and i happen to have a special guest with me today via satellite downlink and if we could get him up on the stage right now. that i've done in my career bill was genuinely happy when steve came by i think he recognized and felt. that losing apples as a successful company wouldn't be good for the industry and so and i think that was. that was when the relationship became closer and the relationship stayed close bill didn't do a favor for the city what bill did was microsoft had
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a successful business selling macintosh applications they were making a profit selling macintosh applications if apple went out of business the back software business at microsoft would go out of business too so he had a franchise to protect. now the fact that steve jobs was sort of crawling you know made it better bill gates has another motive for coming to steve jobs eight the antitrust lawsuits pending against microsoft over its ten year windows monopoly. i'm here to share my story and answer questions about microsoft and the p.c. industry. i hope that my testimony helps the court to resolve the issues in this case that would be bill. especially after the trust battle. really. the day to day part of the company was really.
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getting to be very hard on him and that microsoft was so big and so successful that it was a time that he could move on and go on to something else. as gates steps a selling job as clients to new heights he adopts a new concept the ad campaign think different a return to his original idea of simplicity. the pain i most respect about apple is they have found a way to make complex things something. that was the thing for a campaign thing different really got you the fare but then when you went to really explored. it was there for. a brilliant marketing idea for the i'm back the
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new home computer that gives its users the feeling of being special set apart from the standardised world of the p.c. . then he said ok i could build macintosh this forever but that would be boring so we're going to create the digital. abs strategy and we're going to create the i pod in the i phone and the touch pad and everything in there going to connect through computers but the computers only but. if we're going to carry their computers around and that's the strategy for ninety seven ninety eight ninety nine when they came up with that so then he could do what he did best which was designed brand new products so that steve jobs is that it's like i am an alchemist i am a magician. i am going to make this rabbit disappear i'm not just going to make a rabbit i may disappear i want to make the buttons move around they like things that are matched. with the world steve jobs makes
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a new and unique contribution to our way of life a new digital wound with a single brand name that means innovation design and user friendly ness don't always true of microsoft products. but the big change would is the i pod. steve song use an impi three player do a lot of them around for two years before they are gone but they were reserved for techies and so apple created a better music player that was better because of the ease of use and then they had to fly the way to feed it and in doing so of course. they took the
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record companies that claim to us you know they they they said they stole the music business from the record companies because the record companies thought this is kind of interesting but it's not going to mean anything it's nothing you know this is no big deal apple told the record companies that their goal in the first year was to sell a million music downloads. they sold a music a million music downloads in the first week. they sold one hundred million in the first year they sold a billion in the first two years and the music business has changed forever and the record companies say what is that what and where did that come from. an i pod. a phone. and an internet communicator. an i pod.
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the iphone defining steve jobs as a modern visionary able to satisfy every consumer need and desire. confronted with counsel perhaps he realizes his days a number no time to lose to make his mark in history that apple is going to reinvent the phone he was out running a company that had gone off and done some really amazing things and was no longer in this sort of i'm in the shadow of a bill gates about the shadow of microsoft apple's become this enormously successful company apple's those more business when i really have all those more business and i phones and microsoft those in total business and they're the most valuable company in the in the world now steve jobs didn't change the world steve jobs capitalized on a lot of things bill changed the world bill made software what it is today if bill had created the standards you know him or stop us windows and was very
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dogmatic at making sure those standards took hold we wouldn't have the technology we have today and i'm talking globally i'm not talking of the united states globally he impacted the world in terms of what he did with software. he decided to do the same frame and form for perry. this is my last you know. and it's the middle of this year in july that i moved from being a full time employee at microsoft to working full time at the foundation be the first time since i was seventeen that i'd have my full time microsoft job far from the realm of high tech rivalry bill gates known chooses to help alleviate suffering in the world the foundation he heads with his wife melinda makes this billionaire the most generous philanthropist in history he keeps
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a vigilant tie on microsoft but today the dreams he no choose on linked to humanitarian causes is going to go down in history as the world's great swines was no doubt about no one come closer and so i think for anybody else whether of steve jobs or whoever your view of bill changed a little bit when you saw what a good job he was doing i mean it wasn't like some guys screwing around with rock stars and occasionally showing up at a charity for his or is it really focused you know like achievable goals you know why about malaria no big deal you know things are just amazing right. what individual in the history of money has devoted twenty billion dollars to anything. no one would give bill gates so he's you know plays to win a place to win. steve never got their state ever give a penny pincher i once had a conversation with steve much later after bill gates retired from microsoft and he
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was doing what i thought was great stuff that trying to eradicate diseases in third world and stuff and i said well you know even though bill gates on a wrecked the technology industry for a decade or two you got to be proud of what he's doing now and steve look at me and said what do you mean distributing is ill gotten gains you know us and he wasn't ready to give him all that much credit for that. steve jobs never missed a chance to insult his old enemies like these awful commercials that made p.c. users and critics say something positive for the p.c. ok easy p.c. you are a wizard with numbers and you dress like a gentleman you see well. i guess you are a little better creative stuff thank you even though it's pleasing to my own which . maybe twice. in two thousand and seven the two giants come face to face for the last media event pasta
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confrontation has at last given way to peaceful rivalry first i called jobs because i thought he'd be the hardest to get and he said if bill does it i will do it but we have to keep it i want to keep it on a high level i don't want to just be a fight what's the greatest misunderstand between you and your relationship and about it each other what would you say would be we've kept our marriage secret for over a decade now and i do our competitors in certain ways we watch the american way right the commercials and you get annoyed at each other from there i know i have to confess i like p.c. guy but yeah he's great i know you know that i want our to those you know the art of those commercials is not to be me but it's actually for the guys to like each other. on. their.
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p.c. guys p.c. guys great i like it's not a big one. is mother loves this mother but i just i have the bills still viewed. as kind of a freak and he's fascinated by you know that people say why should you let. steve treat you that way and build an even though he was being treated a certain way he was just. watching this and saying who is this guy you know audio how does this work. is there an algorithm here i don't because i don't get it back . with steve jobs health deteriorating bill gates paid a last visit to his longtime rival and friend it would be a bittersweet and the last chapter in a legendary june. after a lifetime of innovation steve jobs died on october the fifth two thousand and eleven. bill gates and steve jobs high tech giants who
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revolutionized the way we live work and play. as earaches pros prominent figures of the twentieth century and how life will receive influenced the course of history that was the human revolution coming his own way feel castro is a futile least i'm not a communist i'm just really into this country che wanted international revolution they came a point when the relationship came to an end the icons of revolution who changed the course of latin american politics. and fidel castro face to face at this time on al-jazeera.
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hello there for some of us in australia we've seen an awful lot of heavy rain recently so we are now out of this area of cloud here under that we seem to wrench the heavy downpours almost everywhere some places reporting hundred forty seven millimeters of rain and then further towards the east here we've seen one hundred sixteen so clearly lots of what weather there are more still to come in fact we've got this little developing feature which will gradually push eastward fair towards queensland as we head through wednesday further south of course has been incredibly hot here but the heat has now east diffraction for sydney looks like thirty one degrees will be our maximum course it will be slightly hotter than that if you head out towards the west and suburbs further south well first a force in melbourne now we're only at around twenty four getting to around twenty five there as we head into wednesday adelaide we see the temperatures rise once more there will be all the way up to thirty one on wednesday and for perth we hover
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at around twenty seven now over towards new zealand we've had a lot of stormy weather over the last twenty four hours or so all thanks to this weather system here part of some very very heavy downpours and the system is only slowly moving away so still plenty more wet weather for us across the north island for tuesday the south island will be a lot brighter system clears the way for wednesday but we do see a little bit more unsettled weather in the south. rio has big plans to turn its largest favelas into spectacles. but inside the favelas. has big plans of his own. building since the age of twelve listen trained yet skilled architect has as good a chance as any at seeing his vision come to light. the federal role and the master plan and the concluding part of rebel architecture at this time on al-jazeera.
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