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tv   Nadezhda Kutepova  Al Jazeera  January 28, 2018 11:32am-12:00pm +03

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more than one hundred ninety others injured when the bomb detonated explosives that were inside an ambulance. turkey's military says that it's killed nearly five hundred kurdish fighters in the past week in northern syria it says the fighters who it calls terrorists had been neutralized in the campaign to take our freedom the figures have been independently verified and don't include civilian deaths. police in russia have raided the moscow office of the opposition leader alexina valley ahead of nationwide anti-government protests around he says the police shut down the live feed of his opposition t.v. station police say they were looking for a bomb of only cool for demonstrations after he was barred from running in march his presidential election seven survivors from a missing ferry have been found drifting at sea for days after the boat sank near the pacific island nation of killer bass they were found by in the lifeboats by the usual of the air force around fifty people were on the ferry in those signs yet of
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any other survivors. there is the headlines i'll be back with more news here on his era right after talk to al jazeera next. this is really an attack on it for itself is a lot of a sudden the standing of what free speech is supposed to be about the context of hugely important setting the stage for a serious debate up front at this time on al-jazeera international and. you can go on. to see. the my act plant in the southern europe birthplace of the soviet union's nuclear weapons program. today it reprocess the spent nuclear fuel but fifty years ago my ex suffered what's thought to be the world's third worst nuclear accident that was covered up until the one nine hundred eighty s. vast areas of land were contaminated including. a city built for my ex workers and
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so secret it was left off maps. activists nadezhda could tip over his father and grandmother died of cancer as did many others she campaigned for the truth about the contamination and compensation for residents but fled to paris after she was accused of being a traitor so what's life like in a so-called closed city why do people still live in a circus and what dangers remain we find out in the desert that could tip over talks to al-jazeera. that is dakota part of a thanks so much for talking to al-jazeera growing up when did you realize that you were living in a special place a so-called secret city. and maybe i understood it when i was. school go on the river travelling visit a group of schoolchildren in the prime there came in the south and we were
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prevented by the leader of our group that if somebody arrived and asked us where you fall more we should tell it to be a from chalabi and then the there was one situation in airport one woman came and she asked me all kids where you go in you travel and we say yes and she asked us where you're from and they say we're from chile obviously we're ready for this and she told oh i'm also from chile others from which school you are and you know that i remember of this terrible feeling of fear that our teacher prevented other spices around what i should tell if i feel something wrong i will be arrested and in this moment maybe i began to feel that sound feeling special in our place but i didn't know what exactly because even school we rolled the letters about where you for all where where your parents are working i always knew that my mother
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she's a doctor and my father is the engineer but the question was you are do what your father is doing during your job i ask it and he told me i make it pay powerful candies and did he ever tell you what he was really doing and rally t. he was working in the representation plant. which we name him on asa like a plan to congress thirty five i have never shook at this he me about his job because he died when i was twelve and he was ill by very serious cancer cancer from. eighty three eighty five. in this moment of course i have never new sound i have never known something bald job. of course i hear it something from my mother like
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a radiation song from the influence but i did not pay attention for this well for decades the outside world mostly didn't know what happened in my act back in one thousand nine hundred fifty seven the explosion that occurred tell us about what actually happened and what effect that did have on the local population the local environment my yard was built like answer for the american nuclear bombs to produce to put on your for soviet bomb and when they began to produce plutonium they produced many types of nuclear waste and they dampen these nuclear waste high level nuclear waste inside the river which is situated there it's a cherry where they did during three years finally they understood that it's very dangerous because population became to be dyed to became to have make a mirror and began to gave a bit of children's with the defects and they stopped and they began to keep high level nuclear waste in underground towns and exactly this underground towns
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exploded twenty nine september nineteenth fifty seven twenty million curie exploded in atmosphere and the area twenty four thousand square kilometers will continue natives are there explosion was a big but at the same moment people who were working in the results go in this more when they did nothing that something serious happened because it was the first years and there were many explosions for soil to organize underground space for reactors. the people who are in the villages which riseth rated around as also they were not informed they knew that something secret the bill there they were created and the villages were destroyed we lost twenty five
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villages after this accident situation and the area like i already told twenty three thousand square kilometers will contaminate it by the genuine date us today that two hundred seventy two thousand people are dated after this accident. what convinced you that the accident and the plant were actually killing people living in the local area because officially there's been no study there are no real figures about the numbers of people who've died in the surrounding areas compared to other parts of russia have or not or of course after exit in this situation was a terrible and there must of people there have a radio show which arrived immediately after quantum in nature and it was visible it was not like a long time effect it was an immediate effect so all the scientists who and the doctors who are working in this moment they saw this consequences for this reason
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they took a decision to ever create people from this their natural zone after this situation there are created institutes of each which began to study health of population this institute is situated and should our bills and another institute which studies their health of population off was also is situated in the results from this moment they began to make their scientifical starting off course if we headed down draws if they didn't they have never organized it because your own father died of cancer but even on his death difficult they didn't use that word did they know in the soviet time all information about the accident were secret even people who were working in the plant in this moment likely liquidators they signed special paper to keep it secret so why then do you think so many people through the decades have decided to stay in school keeps the bag given that they must know the
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health risks of being in that area you know the people of close that city it is a special civilization maybe we can tell sol because the clause the city they were built in the empty place. in the forest and the people who built it they specially brought for create this city create this production and they keep secret keep ideology and grow all the new generation to continue their job to defend our motherland and people in had a very high standard of quality of life didn't they they had good education good health care good food yeah you're on soviet try we were like your state inside the state we always were on the leadership of the moscow. group the.
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quality of life and it was a big contradiction with the people who believe in iran and on the quantum unaided area because they are they were really poor become the major in the clause that sits it's like air like a bottle of glass reason roof and where is the picture around so people who are inside they see that picture which is their own and the government just open the open the this bottle and give you their food and then closed so we are a little bit is a late society and even then the information about all can diminish and we'll all pound it was ninety. eight nine hundred eighty nine in this small amount. this special propaganda right for us for people calls a city like air of course of the accident but it was not so terrible like the
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people around asked try to imagine and of course they're evil but they are evil because they made a marriage between their family inside the families with a close relative so they were blaming inbreeding and people having alcohol problems that's why i said yeah exactly you set up an organization to try and help people living in. how do people respond to you and what were you trying to do to help them i was in the conference environment conference in one thousand nine hundred nine. persons from the environmental department of our new clist city made the report for me it was like a shoulder because he told the proof and he was official from our city and he was telling them about quantum in nation after teacher dumping and he told about contamination off the xor them and also he was talking about current continue nations because there is a current contamination and i was shocked it arrived and i ask you why you did not
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tell why you does not tell the is the story in our city he told me nobody in our close that city does need this information people prefer do not know in this moment you know that it was like a milestone for me all the possible make right place in my head and i have this i have decided to create enjoy and defend the people in two thousand three nights at human rights public department and we began to go quite a professional n.g.o.s to defend rights of people who suffered from my accidents and for people who live in the closet secure for russia but there were attempts to effectively silence you to intimidate you to believe you tell us what happened for . first moment. my yok try to control us for example our first program which was a defense of pregnant women rights. the public relations option arrived
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to. check us is a retail something for pregnant women the baltics in the ninety five to seven it was like a little bit paranoid of all their ammo and two files in for the fees be they forbidden our fills the home so so logical research because it was my dream to make a sociological research of mentality of people close a city into falzon eight it was a story. intimidation for on pavement taxes they announce that our charitable money it's profitable we should pay taxes for this money and it was a long time prot service to hear us we visit all fees be people took in their god two children god a visit of somebody for my maternal to clean you can i go there they arrested our
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coned but finally we won in the court and we were checked many times but this last story is a record nation asked like you for rain the agent ensure we didn't survive it. i think that beginning of last story if this is a case it's much more terrible case for me because i identified the diff off six old go in little village horrible car which was born in two thousand and five which died in two thousand and eleven from the cancer off liver and this cancer will officially connected with the influence of radiation on hugh grant market and it was a situation very cynical because grandmother who was liquidator she's a life of the martyr is a life and the little girl died and i tried to receive the compensation of unpicking era damage for mom and we applied to visit application in local court but
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we were rejected and called to told us that in ninety fifty seven there was not legislation about unpick you need them and and so today this mother can't to receive this compensation and it was very loud in our region and many many people called me and exactly this story was the basis for the recognition asked all i care for a new agent because of the court and also that it was political activity to criticize the judgment of local court to try to change policy or for russian federation in direction of victim of my yako then the. original t.v. show on the feel my new clear heart of russia the head of. that major of our city who was the head of local fees be told that i destroyed to nuclear should the rush hour tried to create carlson nuclear calls
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a city calls a director for me it was from one side it was little bits finally because i knew that i didn't do it but at the same moment it was a really serious because houston. when my ever cape town the duration of human rights advised me to leave i did it because you know that activity again the. security of russian federation it's a crime a state reason. punished man it's to mean two years of prison so you came to paris with your children how difficult was it for you to leave russia to leave us i had a true feelings filled feeling was i felt myself like a traitor of people because you know all that many people in region they connected
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with me their hopes on justice even in any cases we did not receive the results sometimes the fight for your rights it's also results like a fight for justice against justice and this a moment i feel myself. i lost the rules i feel that i was absolutely. outside a situation. like i lost the connection because my people. it was a really difficult even when i arrived in paris i refused to ask a political refugee during three months because i rolled many placation to russian prosecutor to. be about that why the channel for russia. russia twenty four accused my organization in the spear
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nash do you have the evidence of all these do you can you give me some film which prove it and i hope maybe if i receive the good answer i can beg for me of course the paris was not there is like for people who are arrived here for another goals for me towards the city or for example my act now is used to reprocess nuclear waste not just from russia though from other countries including i think norway and germany. do you think that mark is capable of handling the amount of waste that is being sent now and is it being planned to be sent there in the future i think that my arc is not comparable to reprocess nuclear waste because our reports say so of nuclear waste is a very complicated technology and like a final point my yard crecy of the many many.
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types of nuclear waste it's a high level nuclear waste middle level nuclear waste and low level nuclear waste and until today my yacht continue to dump a different type of waste in different nature will resume watts reach just to change this state use yesterday it was a natural lake today it's a technical reason wars but it just pay a park who changes state years and the problem is today that my yard can't to hobble by this and then you can always continue to damp to go to the open ri where around to each we have four villages visit population five thousand people one of those recent incidents there were reports of a radioactive cloud went there floating over europe russia denied that it had indeed come from that particular area around us ask around nyack what do you
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believe i suppose that it could be over in the of the terrific ation of reprocessing plants what they're making this all into the mix the glass these a nuclear high level nuclear waste. you don't understand what this happened exactly you just know the truth then you should be keeping this came around and also there was a field which normally should take they must to change a trigger and maybe something happened in this. if we analyze the story of all my accidents from nine forty nine into two thousand and seven. this accidents will never recognize it by my jacket it's always the society who press them or prosecutor i think in this situation they will be continue to know because my
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yard it's not only local enterprises it's a part of the global process to receive. markets of nuclear waste and now in the region and even a level of. contrary they tell about the who are from our call current from our name enemies organize and these products us because. you know it's always much more easy try to find any me. instead told me to yourself guilty should countries that send their nuclear waste to mock should they bear some responsibility for what happens to it then because of course russia's been paid a lot of money to take this waste and reprocess it at mine my acc. i was sure that
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the russian takes money i think the nuclear departments restart them takes money. i think that foreign congress should not send their nuclear waste in russia in my jacket exactly first of all because the area really come to me native there and the population suffered continue to suffer today and i think there is a sound feel like a game with. the commands she gives for my yok right to make or a process because usually when the my yok want to receive. a contract with a different contrie is the unknown that you know all that the situation is really guta. we stopped down nuclear waste in the nature of the reserve walls and the teacher river and we improved the and improve the situation
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but like a person who a lawyer or people who still sofie i can constipate that it's not rove for example if you go to their fishel site of my yuck you can see the official report that my dad stopped to dump nuclear waste in the end of sixteen years but why they did not publish the judgment of chalabi court that the former director of my yuck. accused the in continue nation of teacher eva into falzon sicced its a prosecutor who made the expertize and who can state that in two thousand five hundred sixty tons of nuclear waste inside the teacher river and the water in teacher river was a real uclear waste and the population continued to leave there they don't want to publish that information and i think when they receive the documents to.
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have a capacity to make this international contract they wire and there is no outside international jurisdiction is there of what happens at my ak is there anybody monitoring what takes place there. you know that before the situation this will thing you know i really believe that somebody off outside like international agency of the mackenzie should. control this situation but now i see no now i see no because you know that i am in this direction during twenty years and i had no any contact is a person of international edge and see and even for example we had a meeting during common calls for for example during climate change conference and i tried to make it a question about this always still or not not my yup it's
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a military problem of past even no i. believe in two years in france and i have a possibility to contact with people in the national level and i sound some letters for some people in the national engines that i receive this conduct and know any ounce of i don't know maybe they're afraid me. so how worried are you that they could be another serious accident at my ak. you know every every day when i go to sleep i think about my yard my dear god save my yard because part of equipment are really all the and also on the commercial interest is much more higher than the interest of nuclear safety and you can security i think can leave office and you nuclear accident and a final thought do you still hope to return home do you want to go back to russia
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would you ever go back to. yes i would like to become russia i would like to back in my city in my region because first of all i would like to be called nec to the local people i sure see the situation by my own eyes and also i would like to continue my job to do found people to improve the law and. i mean my your role i mean my. evades the nuclear how they should propose to thank you it took me to understand that. trust. by trying to use. force to provide.
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