tv Mevlut Cavusoglu Al Jazeera February 4, 2018 10:32pm-11:01pm +03
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referendum. the standoff between the supreme court and the president is continuing in the mall the us president ability i mean is refusing to comply with a court order to release political prisoners and reinstate twelve dissident lawmakers that were sacked for defecting from his posse you mean has ordered the police and troops to resist any attempts to arrest him security forces have been deployed inside the national parliament since march last year. at least two people have been killed and dozens of others injured in a train crash in the us state of south carolina the amtrak train collided with a freight train overnight in what is the third fatal crash in two months three different opposition factions in syria have claimed responsibility for the downing of a russian war plane over italy province on saturday russia's defense ministry says the pilot ejected from the jet but was killed in a ground fight near the town of. human rights watch says bahrain has deported eight
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people to water in iraq after revoking their citizenship making them stateless the eight deportees were among thirty one activists human rights lawyers who citizenship was revoked and twenty two of those are the headlines talked to al jazeera is next. and the. world is going. to see. geopolitically place between east and west talkee plates a hugely important institute or crawl many of the region's crises and conflicts not to mention developments around the world. this week i'll be speaking to the talkers
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for minister will be on certain questions about the ongoing war in syria the g.c.c. crisis and the fallout from u.s. president donald trump's decision to recognize occupied them as the capital of israel all of this is most talks to al-jazeera. thank you very much for talking to al-jazeera let's start by talking about the war in syria your country is in the middle of a military operation now inside syria an operation is called operation olive branch now this is the second such operation in just the same amount of years before that there was the euphrates shield operation what is the endgame of your military intervention inside syria during to operation you create this seals the defeating terrorists that are different terrorist groups in the country
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and it was a very successful operation. it became a kind of save zone for the refugees and i.d.p.'s and we are supporting them in that area as well and there have been why p g p k k terrorists in africa region and they were sending harassment fires and rockets to turkey to different parts of turkey and it became a serious threat to our security and also to our borders we want then we want the countries who have been engaged with them nevertheless they increase the harassment fires that's why we launched this operation and it is in the line with the international law and also un. charter as well as related un security council but your critics say that turkey is essentially
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invading syria that you want to occupy syrian land and exit as part of some sort of large expensive project and it's not your intention just that it will not be there is no other country. in the region or beyond supporting. serious there is territory turkey and solar and more than turkey and even in sochi and also in astana in moscow if you look at the all these statements and the joint declaration you see that and yet for. unity and territory and take it off the country on the y.p. g. in the the kurdish fighters there are video has emerged recently showing american made weapons that has been captured from these kurdish fighters by the f.s.a. now these y.p. g. fighters and their allies have not only been fighting you or you have not only been fighting them inside syria but they have been phone rockets inside turkey which is
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not true six civilians being killed can you explain to me how it is that turkey still considers the united states as an ally if it is the united states that has made no secret of its support for kurdish fighters who are essentially killing your own civilians how is how are they considered to be an ally they're. not captured weapons those weapons they've been given by the united states to wipe each year so we have actually asked united states not to give the weapons they did we asked them to stop and president trump promised out of the one. two that they will stop giving weapons to this organization and at the last phone conversation between two presidents president trump told the one that they stopped they have stop giving weapons to this organization these rockets this weapons
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used by y.p. g.n.p. kicking. you know most of them are given by the united states but there are also weapons coming from. different european countries western countries as well or from other countries but the u.s. state department has said that it still considers the y.p. ji as an ally in the fight against ice or doubt and this is my question i mean ok now you're saying there's verbal commitment from the u.s. that they will stop or they have stopped supplying weapons but in the end of the day the u.s. and turkey are meant to be nato allies in the end of the day the u.s. make use of turkish air base interlink air base why why have you not been more forceful in making the u.s. troops between its ally and between a group that you consider to be a star whose name is moot double stand that particle that you know our fight against terrorism we see this double standard in the united states in the united states even. then secretary of defense carter and
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also the current chief of general stuff down for at mit it there and still they still are adamant that there is no difference between kicky and white b.g. if there is no difference that they are you at mit it means that both of them are terrorist organization this is the double standard in europe also many political parties politicians and even some countries are supporting p.k. k. human p.k. which is listed by european union as well just because they share the same ideology a marxist communist lens i don't wish it so this is unfortunately the crew terrier for many different political parties and the politicians and the countries . and how can we defeat terrorists with this understanding and with those kind of double standards this is not only a problem of the u.s. which is a very serious. prior knowing in the war that they're fighting or all sorts of
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terrorist organization in the war but in syria they are collaborating with that there is sort of an assertion or what will come back to turkish u.s. relations near the end but i just want to ask another question about syria here another war has gone on for seven years almost up to a million people been killed more than five million refugees now your government has always said that it supports the syrian people's right to freedom and it supports their quest for for for democracy there not only have you you said that in statements but you host more than three million refugees inside turkey but now it seems that you according to some of your critics that you no longer care about this is a real struggle for freedom because for example aleppo which was held by the rebels it's actually fell into the hands of the the rich assad regime because turkey stopped supporting the the rebels there and similar scenes in other places inside
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syria your critics say that you are more concerned about the success of the estancia agenda and more concerned about maybe appeasing your newfound relationship with russia and iran then you are with the syrians they accuse you some of the syrian rebels of selling out i don't see any opposition any syrian groups cruising for took i know that some neighboring countries are not happy with the role that he has been playing and we were only the country actually help those syrians and the opposition. to ever create. them from a level. and we work with russia and russia actually delivered what they promised the vacuum into them from aleppo when did they go to italy and then it'll start to being bombed from the sky it's true it's true that our relations i don't ignore that but it doesn't mean that turkey has changed or because turkey has changes
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position and the opposition says. hi negotiation committee and syrian national committee syrian national kurdish committee and others they all know that on that turkey has not change its standing and this position and its support to opposition what is the aim of the us and what is the aim of the search east what is the outcome of the search the aim of the search actually to take to some confidence building measures or steps ok also to console the date the cease fire and the escalation zones and cessation of the hostilities yes there are some violations in need and we asked the grunters of the regime to stop that because there they got on tours i would like to ask a question this tradition on the ground isn't it better than
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a year year and africa the situation a year in africa before aleppo and during aleppo now we are very much disturbed with this while oceans and this is a legitimate concerns of everybody including the opposition and the civilians living there and now we are deploying officer is that look at the outcome of the sochi and over the actually outcome. the outcome of the search here and. we have been doing our best to interrogate us than a process and such a process to jeannie one and if you look at the joint declaration in sochi it is referring to geneva process it is referring to the un security council resolution two to five four and from now. those meetings will be have in geneva and we help them also to establish committee or
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working group on the constitution we have given the lease to the demister and then is that demonstrate real form this through or working group so all these efforts are helping us and the syrians actually to pursue it and to reach a political settlement read out their political settlement any a chimney is on the ground cannot be sustained cannot be consolidated so we have to focus on both sides ok us donna and the political process ok let's let's move on to another hot topic in the region and that is drusilla marching illegally occupied jerusalem as the united nations considers it to be. president to unborn and that if the united states went ahead and considered or acknowledged and recognized as the capital of israel that turkey would cut its ties with israel what is the status of relationship between turkey and israel now that this decisions we made we had normalize our relations with israel and we put three conditions they met all
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these three conditions are yes after that and when we were normalizing day asked whether turkey will continue criticizing israel he said yes if israel while it's the international law and if they continue illegal settlements as well as attacking. palestinians in gaza or west bank turkey will be against that and turkey will criticize israel so normalizing the relation doesn't mean that we admit what israel is doing or or what israel will do and last june you remember what happened in as good in jerusalem and president adamant call president of israel we asked them to stop it and he stood with a stronger all together and they did stop it now it is the decision of the united
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states and you saw how they were isolated in new york at u n so do n. tire wall rejected. decision of the united states and at the security council also so the we will continue our efforts all together not on the turkey of course turkey is leading this role particularly in the muslim world because we are the. person with the chair of the organ of the council i see but i just want to ask you one thing this is specifically this threat that the president's made that turkey would cut off ties with israel if trump recognizes to some of the capital the president adam that made this statement after the decision of two united states that before the decision types but still those options and if if there is this is still the relation and we have the embassies here but if this generation. becomes and watched in the future and if israel continues
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while ocean status off to east jerusalem and outputs of course we should all together review our position and also our relation ok on the i see that is the organization of some of conferences which is the umbrella body of muslim countries turkey hosted an extraordinary summit right after that decision took place in jerusalem in istanbul rather the summit at the start of that summit the president of iran he showed maps. historical maps of palestine which showed how designers project had been stealing palestinian land over the years now this summit's final communique and obviously turkey is not the one who writes it it's all of the seizure but the final communique was seen by many in the arab and muslim world is very weak. do you see how such a weak statement or the statements that are made by muslim majority countries and
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arab countries it is the weakness of these statements and their stance this is what gives the green light for the can only just expansionist project that's taking place in palestine first statement was that week ok i don't know i quote don't do it to us weak two leaders or two do you if you speak to the people on the street i mean i didn't get close first. american is it is not weak secondly the follow up this. was a joint statement communique and what happened in new york and the resolution that we table together with yemen. and was adopted actually was the first follow up and concrete are come of this meeting and also joint statement but as i said at the beginning and only the resolution was
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adopted at the u.n. general assembly is not enough or cannot be. on the step therefore we should continue our efforts there is no problem with the with the joint statement or joint declaration but we need to implement them you need to also follow up them and i i hope and i read actually other muslim leaders also there to show this kind of maps as out of the ground it was for irish they also stand as strong as their. turkey. and when i went to new york and i said that was off and i said those of some muslim countries actually were not dead because of the threatening and the pressure they left new york i want to get out of those all the countries they support the resolution but they're embracing this couldn't stay in new york because
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of the threatening. pressure coming from. a country so one one of those countries that many people notice their absence particularly in the icy summit to to prison istanbul was saudi arabia sent a low level minister to represent them now what was so outrageous for many people in the in the muslim world was that venezuela which is not even a muslim country was represented i don't want to make any comment about any specific country but. actually is watching what's happening and how each country is behaving and also leaders are brave enough. to stand against this decision or saw to defend the status of the outputs also to defend palestinians and i don't want to make any comment about any specific country ok thank you let's let's move to the g.c.c.
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unfortunately the region that turkey finds itself in is fraught with many conflicts and crises now the gulf as you know has been in a crisis for seven months now since the united arab emirates behind egypt and saudi arabia imposed a land sea and air blockade on qatar in june two thousand and seventeen your country has played actually a very big role in the g.c.c. crisis in that many people believe if it was not for turkish troops in qatar that maybe saudi arabia the u.a.e. would have invaded qatar. and it is your strong support for part of that has prevented the military conflict what's your take on this. well if qatar at taking any decision against energy says are countries we will be against that. too and did this engine. decision against qatar was not fair we made it very clear at the beginning and many claims and also conditions one of the conditions was actually to close the turkish base in qatar there are also bears of other european
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and western countries why the brother countries are not asking qatar to close those bases but on the turkish base what i am trying to say that it was a very unfortunate situation it has been over and fortune the station we don't want to see such a division in g.c.c. or in the muslim world and stability in g.c.c. is so important for all of us and there are some claims and accusations and so far not even one single evidence has been. shared they told us that they will send all the evidences we have inducive anything and each time i see anybody from kuwait from leadership i mean i asked them whether they have received any evidence about these accusations they say not because kuwaitis do immediate her country and therefore it was
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a very much political decision and unfortunately. it didn't. serve. the interests of any countries in the region or in east side so i hope they will come this tradition soon and we still believe that. south korea can lead actually this process and to overcome this situation but i mean as you were engine quit has been leading mediation you in your country has also tried in the very beginning actually a couple of days before the siege was announced president and one sent envoys to riyadh and the how to try and resolve things as things were escalating i went but personally and yourself one of the interesting things though is that when you follow saudi media egyptian media united arab emirates media they have actually
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been attacking turkey is one have been very insulting as well just a few days ago very close friend of the crown prince and saddam from been some man who heads the saudi lobby in the us some money and sorry tweeted a picture of a dead sudanese person in sudan from many years ago claiming this was a party killed by turkish troops inside the high in a clear attempt to saw discontent rageous a muslim first and foremost must be honest person ok. this is. not the case we see. since i became foreign minister in many muslim countries ok secondly they all expect to support them whatever the decision or action that they're taking and they put pressure too many countries particularly muslim countries to take a site during this crisis and they put their pressure to somalia process and they
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threaten somalia and some i reject it this is the dignity of the somalian people and why are you there why then why are you trying to divide the muslim world then doom you have your only issue. and then they when you don't say that what they what they they are doing these right and then they don't like and they attack you these are the baseless accusations and one more problem. i think they don't like that one is that much property well let's finish on your relationship with the u.s. for a moment there appear to be warming between turkey and the united states in the early days of the trump administration but the reality now is that maybe the relationship couldn't have been worse the u.s. has imposed travel restrictions on turks and you have reciprocated with similar ones on americans till now the u.s. harbors the man that you accuse of attempting
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a coup in turkey is there any light at the end of this what seems very dark tunnel in u.s. armor tarkus relations normally we don't have any problem with any allies need to read us nor read european allies but they have been learning one thing that if there is any problem with turkey or if they have if they take an action against turkey it will be reciprocated by tech and turkey has change and turkey will never a boy any at that point ok and this is the dignity of the turkish nation and secondly yesterday had been passing through a not easy years in our relations with the united states their support to white p.g. and development they have been given which is a terrorist organization and pausing. direct threat to turkey secondly
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after the attempted coup we ask united states to accept i had to like glenn who's the leader of to put a terrorist organization so far they haven't and particularly these two issues. hadfield and american emotions and sentiments in turkey and all world. there is a lack of trust as i told my call the next tillerson. thembi met in parties in rank who were also when we spoke on the phone yesterday to negotiate or does discuss any issue or to take any joint action first we need to rebuild this truss and the mutual trust this is the problem right now and you has us and this administration particular president trump and tillerson also have
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been told in telling us that they are there for normalizing relations and strengthening ties yes we are also for that but we need to get through the whole these legitimate concerns of turkey and turkish and this is the strange thing for minister for the thank you very much for talking to al-jazeera and thank you anderson.
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