experts say the volcano will calm down but it may take a few weeks before that happens. just cedar grove what a man. still ahead on al-jazeera. heavy fighting in the libyan city of diana as forces loyal to renegade general. close in class. i'm andrew thomas in southeastern australia where there's outrage that the state government here is using taxpayers' money to prop up the timber industry they say logging around here destroys not just the forests but the wildlife that relies on them. however we've still got a few showers into the middle east nothing much to speak of so west per usual is lossy for say hot and dry quite

a rash. just spilling out of the black sea they are heading towards the caspian sea driving across georgia armenia azerbaijan wanted to shout was also a possibility into the far north of iran as we go on through the next couple of days so it's a very similar picture to what we've seen over the past few days or russia as to a possibility just around the high ground of the himalayan platter eastern parts of afghanistan because he wanted to shout shows disperse their way up a little further northwards into too many stan and he's let me go but i shall is just around northern parts of iran pushing over towards the black sea fine and dry there across eastern southern met this is the place to be twenty eight celsius in beirut or just sunshine so another hot one there for a baghdad forty one celsius could be hotter still to their full kuwait city some more big downpours coming in here. really is hot across the rayburn peninsula but temperatures pick back a little forty three forty four celsius here in qatar over the next couple of days

with a high of forty three further south is generally try but a little more cloud down to the gulf of aden. more than forty thousand africans are facing deportation from israel is awarded more than ninety percent of. the way. almost zero point one percent of the two of those in danger of being thrown out of the country in which they sold refuge talks al-jazeera at this time.

among the top stories. u.s. president donald trump has arrived in singapore ahead of tuesday's historic summit with north korean leader kim jong il came touch down a few hours earlier before paying the call to singapore was a prime minister. a top white house advisor has accused the canadian prime minister of trying to stab donald trump in the back at the g. seven summit where justin trudeau criticized the u.s. tariffs on steel and. another flow of modern ash from the volcano in guatemala is forced emergency teams to abandon their search for survivors a week after it first erupted killing at least one hundred ten people. a large files broken out at a warehouse storing ballot boxes from last month's iraqi election but ballot boxes apparently haven't been destroyed the cause of the blaze is not yet known but the

country is preparing for a manual recount of around ten million votes following allegations of electoral fraud trial stratford has more from baghdad. thick black smoke over the risk of a district in eastern baghdad iraq's ministry of interior say the fire started in a building used to store ballot boxes and electronic voting machines from the disputed parliamentary election a month ago. iraq's parliament voted last week for a countrywide to manual recount of all ballots after allegations of voting fraud one in peace and the fire was started deliberately and cooled on the government to better protect buildings where ballot boxes are being stalled and then i imagine how much. of this three warehouses there are important but it's books and that firefighters are inside trying to present the fire earlier in the day nine judges were appointed to oversee the manual recount of votes nationwide the process is

expected to take at least a couple of weeks. the government sacked senior members of the election commission which oversaw the vote counting prime minister hydrilla body has banned them from leaving the country and warned that anyone suspected of being involved in election fraud could face criminal charges iraq's first election since the defeat of i still was praised for the lack of violence in the run up to and during polling day on may the twelfth but since then much has changed allegations of fraud leading to parliament's vote for a country wide manual recounts of throwing the transparency of this election into doubt a fire at a building containing potential proof of how people voted will already make accusations of voter rigging even louder. baghdad the battle for control of. libya is intensifying down there is the last city not held by

forces loyal to renegade general have to. his troops are bombarding the coastal city from the east and west using machine guns and heavy artillery they're trying to oust armed groups some linked to al qaida which are controlled down after years of the u.n. says it's worried about the safety of an estimated one hundred fifty thousand civilians living there. people are fleeing in greater numbers than at any time since heavy fighting began two months ago three hundred families who feared revenge attacks if the city falls to have to us forces have been rescued by red crescent volunteers the aid group is appealing for safe corridors to be set up to move others to safety but would head as more from the capital tripoli. the situation in the libyan eastern city of there is going from bad to worse as street battles and fights from one street to another and from one building to another go on between forces loyal to libya's really good generally for have to others loyal to the dead

in a protection force that is that i've armored group defending the city against have to his forces now have those forces have been very we'll equipped and they have been supported by egyptian and immorality warplanes and local sources and say that egyptian and immorality warplanes have been targeted have been targeting civil areas inside the city of the net now the humanitarian situation is excessive abating and human suffering is increasing in the city especially with the siege it's taken its toll on people especially civilians in the city the city has been very short of everything including basic needs food medications and medical equipment and the red crescent members in the city of there now say that they have help but more than three hundred turmel is leaving the city activists from the city of the say that they are planning to file

a suit against the renegade general city for hefted accusing his forces of committing war crimes and crimes against humanity and then especially after footage online have been secure lading online showing to have his forces lynching and mutilating a body of a rival fighter tens of thousands of people have linked arms in the basque country to demand a vote on independence from spain they formed a human chain wouldn't two hundred kilometers across the three capitals of the basque provinces campaigners want a spanish government to give them a vote on their political future campaign who has the latest for us. with chants of it's in our hands the tales of thousands of people have turned out in spain's basque country to link hands and form a human chain their aim is to link the three main cities in this region right up to the border with france now their demand is straightforward they're calling for the

chance to vote on their political future here in the basque country whether that means more self rule and devolve powers or even if it means independence i'm breaking away from the rest of spain now the cause of past nationalism is nothing new but sunday's event comes a month after the armed separatists group announced it was formally dissolving and that is allowing peaceful campaigners like these to step out of the shadow of that armed uprising it also comes at turbulent political times for spain as the nation don't forget that the calls for independence in a breakaway of the catalonia region that issue is not resolved yet and earlier this month the central government was toppled in a no confidence motion amid a political corruption scandal now sunday's event may not be the significant defining moment of basque nationalism but nevertheless it is an indication that

there are very fresh calls here for political and territorial issues to be resolved . found her mentalists in the australian state of victoria asking his government to reconsider its bailout of the not being industry it involves more than thirty million dollars of taxpayers' money as anna thomas reports from the tourist central highlands elders accused of destroying forest habitats of endangered wildlife. the aftermath of logging looks brutal in fact burning long ground helps regeneration those in the industry say they're committed to responsible logging we have a regime that i'm still balance the needs of conservation and the industry and regional economies in it and communities but conservationists say the industry and the government that's in part owns it has got the balance wrong propping up a declining industry prioritising jobs are the trees when the owners of this mill

said cuts to its would supply would force it out of business the state government paid tens of millions of dollars to keep it going you can look at it as bailing after you can look at investing in a strong industry and a community that's had a rich heritage in supplying the till but timber that has built our towns. it's a heritage though it's been at the cost of forests and the creatures that rely on them in the two hundred years since european colonization most of southeastern australia as old as trees have been lost in victoria central highlands only about one percent of the mountain ash trees are more than a century old that matters because the oldest trees and the stumps of big dead ones developed hollow areas that animals like the now critically endangered led beaches possums live in conservationists with night vision equipment look for them in areas about to be logged every sighting of their biggest possum that we get there's

a two hundred made a protection buffer against logging all the oldest trees and big dead ones as opposed to be off limits to this is an example of what's called a dead hollow bearing tree that has been protected all the younger living trees that would have stood all around it have been felled but it's been left alone environmentalist though don't think anything like enough trees have been in this entire log area it's the only one that's been left standing there are completely burnt out stumps of similar trees nearby but researches say exclusion zones around individual animals and preserving just the very oldest trees does not go far enough they want large scale protection of middle age seventy or eighty year old trees too that is their next old growth forest i've got another fifty years before they start becoming a whole logically mature we need some of those trees to be very or

growth forest that though would mean excluding much bigger areas from logging economically and politically that could hurt andrew thomas al-jazeera in australia as victoria's central highlands. u.k. human rights groups say saudi arabia has arrested two more women's rights activists who'd campaigned for the right to drive by as iran a published a letter of support for detained campaign a new phone hirai and was then herself seized just hours later nineteen activists have been arrested in the kingdom since the fifteenth of may at best reports. the saudi arabian traffic department releases a video showing women in riyadh receiving their driver's licenses it's been decades in the making with just two weeks before women are free to drive. but some women's rights activists will not be behind the wheel but behind bars has was the first to

be arrested in a government crackdown began on the fifteenth of may. security forces then swept up blogger eman and nuff john activist and professor as easy use of human rights lawyer abraham moved a mic and one of the kingdom's early feminists money and she took part in in one thousand nine hundred can paint to lift the driving ban they could face up to twenty years in prison the saudi state news agency did confirm a wrists on the eighteenth of may saying seven suspects were charged as foreign agents reporting they did to violate the country's religious and national pillows and last week the saudi public prosecutor reported coordinated moves to undermine the security of the kingdom seventeen people had been arrested to released. the government has not said what threat to security the activists pose but analysts say saudi leadership want to ensure the lifting of the driving ban a seen as a gift rather than

a concession to domestic or international pressure they are telling the women that your should not ask for more including you know ending male guardianship this. or that out of women to issue their first or without merit. so it's very alarming and we are very much concerned about what's going on in saudi arabia. right now the kingdom is trying to modernize but it has come at the cost of a crackdown last year academics religious leaders and activists were detained well riyadh's ritz carlton hotel became a prison for some of sardi's wealthiest mean the saudi crown prince mohammed bin salmon promoting a more modern kingdom globally well neutering challenges at home charlotte dallas al-jazeera turkey's biggest city is alive with the sound of music newsstand will music festival is hosting around five hundred artists include many young classical musicians who often go abroad to further their careers because of

a lack of financial support from the government same costlier report. as well as some of the world's most renowned classical musicians young talent is taking to the stage all over stumble. including twenty two year old guinness has a large. but talent she says needs to be polished with practice. fingers paid the price and as is often with artists her rewards have little to do with money. and that art is expensive no one produces hops in turkey my instruments cost twenty thousand euros at least these are all beyond my parents' budget i am dependent on funds. it is much the same story with her fellow musicians the molester member the instrument by by its case its bow all a very expensive for us considering the euro is very high in turkey and we send all

mark being a musician is all about what's in your heart in a way but besides education you must have financial support. classical music is not as popular in turkey as many other countries private institutions and companies tend to fund artists and events through what are called social responsibility budgets. this festival lasers with sponsors to support young talent while ensuring their educational needs are met. direct this i'm not doing arts and music together pushes us to think collectively about the world's problems and act together i believe music has an indirect wish and for peace the soul of some concert tickets will help fourteen girls who are studying music approach with gang fame male musicians friend i will play the maintenance of my cello and i will buy new heo for my ball so it's a mazing help for me these young stars are already known outside turkey but that's

home it is difficult for us. school musicians to make a name for themselves and the government doesn't have an incentive or scholarship for special arts students. but most of these girls agree they are promoting good come through with their talents and a government should recognize that and provide more how seen amcu saw al-jazeera stumble and could run you can catch up any time by checking out our website the address that is our dot com. top stories for your knowledge is there the leaders of the u.s. and north korea have arrived in singapore for tuesday's historic summit president donald trump touched down just a few hours ago kim jong arrived earlier on sunday before be whisked away to

a heavily guarded hotel trump hopes to win a deal with the north to give up the nuclear weapons both working and focusing towards that meeting on tuesday at the capella hotel and said tozer island about five kilometers from where i'm standing and i can tell you it's not just the diplomatic aides it's not just the audiences around the world but even ordinary singaporeans that are feeling particularly special that history could be made right here on their soil nuclear peace was also at the top of the agenda at the summit of the shanghai cooperation organization in china iranian president hassan rouhani used the meeting to criticize the u.s. for withdrawing from the iran nuclear deal saying it's unilateral policies are quote a threat to all the twenty fifteen agreement between iran and world powers lifted international sanctions on tehran in return for restrictions on its nuclear activities russia's president vladimir putin told the summit he wants consistent and unconditional implementation of the deal. the white house has stepped up its

verbal attacks on justin trudeau with top advisers claiming the canadian prime minister stabbed us in the back at the g. seven summit true to what it questions from waiting media in quebec donald trump unable to him weak and dishonest for comments made after the summit today and told reporters the u.s. is u.s. president's decision to invoke national security as a reason for his steel and aluminum trade tariffs was kind of insulting another flow of mud and ashley fraser volcano in guatemala has forced emergency teams to abandon their search for survivors they say there's little hope of finding anyone else alive after last sunday's eruption killed at least one hundred ten people. far as engulfed a warehouse in baghdad where thousands of voting papers from last month's general election is stored the cause of the blaze is not yet known but the country is preparing for a manual recount of around ten million votes following allegations of electoral

fraud. inside stories up next hour the news at a news after you after that by for that. is the drive to modernize saudi arabia taking a wrong turn more women activists top arrested days before the kingdom lifts a travel and female drivers as economic political and cultural reforms implemented saudi leaders sending out mixed messages this is inside story.

hello and welcome to the program today with me peter dalby female activist continue to be arrested in saudi arabia too in the past three days rights groups say mia rani was detained for a post on social media expressing support for north abdul aziz. who's also been locked up citing security forces have arrested seventeen activists in the past month most of them women who've long campaigned for the right to drive a car that is about to happen in two weeks' time the first driving licensees administered before the kingdom lifts its controversial men only ban state media has accused the arrested activists of being foreign agents the saudi vision twenty thirty has a plan to reduce dependence on oil but reforms proposed by the crown prince mohammed bin solved are controversial in the religiously conservative kingdom dozens of members of the oil family government ministers and business men were arrested in a purge against corruption most were released after giving up their assets or

paying billions of dollars to the government been cell man's pledge to move some. to a more open and tolerant interpretation of islam the reforms affect education law and the courts traditionally controlled by the religious leaders in the country for the first time in history women are being allowed to drive and to attend sports events and almost forty year ban on cinemas and cultural events has ended in sell man plans to build the world's biggest sophron wealth fund as well as a five hundred billion dollars futuristic city called neon and a stake in the national oil company around coke is up for sale. ok there we are here we go let's bring in our guests from london we're joined by sami hamdi editor in chief of international interest that's a current affairs analysis magazine with a focus on the middle east and from amman on skype data that mena regional

consultant for equality now and also from london mamdouh selami an international oil economist welcome to you all sami handy if i can come to you first just explain to us for you why do you think women are being detained in this way in saudi arabia . i think what we have to understand is that the whole code allowing women to drive in saudi arabia was mainly a p.r. move it was not designed by muhammad bin so meant to be a sweeping revolution revolutionizing the saudi system however the problem in saudi arabia now is that because they've allowed the women to drive for mohammed bin so man suddenly the activists are asking for more they're asking for too much too quick to change something that mohamed disseminate is not prepared to do and something that he perhaps cannot do because the pace of change if it is too quick it in invites a revolt it invites protests domestically from the ridge authorities and even from the common people from the common population because we have to be aware of one thing in terms of how these reforms are being received and how liberalisation is

being received it's being seen as a copy paste version of europe in that those advocates of liberalization are seeking to establish almost another acquires a european state in saudi arabia i say this because the european version of liberalization emerged in the aftermath of the bitter war with the church and as a result it relegated the religious influence to the personal and private sphere the arab world the islamic world has no equivalent of this war this britta traumatic war that europe went through in other words islam in the arab world in the islamic world is considered akin to prosperity to glory to everything associated with the golden age so one would have a been said man is bringing new concepts from europe from america when it's being pushed by the u.s. by europeans by liberal activists there is a sort of reservation amongst arab society in general not just mohammed bin said men so even if mohammed bin send men wants to implement these measures he's very wary that there will be a backlash you have to remember that arab society they are taught that it is the

pious saladin who conquered jerusalem it is the pious it lucy know who was the father of medicine it was the pious of one hundred dollars early who inspired st thomas aquinas who inspired adam smith the father economics it was the pious and jabbered who established algebra in other words it's all to do with religion. so when one hundred percent man is talking about liberalization talking about moderate islam talking about a more tolerant islam these are rhetorical this is retired that is dominant in europe and in the us and it has been received with much reservation in the arab world so in terms of these activists have been arrested i think the key problem is this mohammed mr mann is basically saying to them don't get over excited i let you drive and i gave you the right to drive but you guys are pushing this case weight and way too fast and this big hysteria that you have you need to come down so i need to teach you a lesson and put in prison for a bit ok you've laid all the main issues here that we're going to discuss the next half hour or so do you know where these women are what sort of conditions they're

living under and what's the point do you know when they'll be released. well we don't really have any information about where these women have been now i mean in which prison they are we don't have information from saudi arabia and that is a complete sign. from actually the government also about where they are and their why they have been arresting them and in addition eban activists who are still outside the prison or who have not been arrested they are also afraid to reveal any information if they know. the situation is very much alarming in saudi arabia and maybe i i contradict or i am not really supporting what my colleague has said a little bit about you know having all these developments in saudi arabia as it westernized. issues this is not quite true i mean i am living in jordan

and i am all my life i have been i am and out of and palestinian and we have we are witnessing so many amendments and so many developments in regard to the developments of and enhanced meant of women's rights in the region. so if you look at what's going on in tunisia and morocco or in algeria even in jordan last year they have defeated. some parts there are some articles in the person or in that penal code where rape laws has been repeated in jordan an independent soul the women's movements in that region they are calling for or for for their rights for years by now it's not really a westernized. issue or it is more that women are aware that they are citizens and they need to be treated as citizens in their communities and then in their

societies understood so i just wanted to come to this play. some boil those down and put them to mentor selami member selami if your m.b.a.'s if you're the crown prince and you have a reform programme surely a reform programme is a whole it's it's it's an entity you can't reform a little bit you've got to reform everything you've got to be more liberal you've got to be more outward looking and that's what we're talking about today i guess is a symptom of that as opposed to a cause of that. well let me start by saying that saudi arabia and its budget depend on the oil resources to the cure of ninety percent and since it is covered over oil in saudi arabia and nine hundred thirty eight they have never diversify that economy now there are talking and they talked before about diversification so vision

twenty thirty is another name for diet diversification. using reducing dependence on oil in their economy still i don't think that the reform programme covered by vision twenty thirty will achieve much i must admit it's a step in the right direction but i don't think it will at cheve bunch add certainly not in the short tail for instance when the vision was launched what to sixty and. it included a close that said they need to create ten million jobs because unemployment among the young in saudi arabia and the saudi population is very young indeed they needed ten million million jobs before twenty twenty i don't

think that will be at cheer when even it twenty years short of expelling expecting it's out of saudi arabia then you are talking about reforming the oil in the city the toll has been for the last more than fifty or sixty years and they have not achieved much they are still dependent on oil and they are still excessive in their spending of the oil wealth of saudi arabia ok to talk about. education and you find that their universe it is or more still them on the up dear they'll produce people who are employer been in that one give her this century ok sammy handy let's put that point to you it occurs to me that raising a voice is an offense but it's not being codify it as being something that we could that we could number that we could label because for example one of the women

drivers her lawyer has been detained as well simply for talking about this in public so if you go public about the issue what's going on there. i think peter this is nothing new this has been the arab world for the last thirty forty fifty years i mean if you're talking to me as an arab this doesn't feel like anything strange this is what governments have been doing for ages this is doing it just across the border in most of the arab countries this thing these things take place as well i just want to mention peter in terms of the honorable guest who said that you know that is not the problem the westernization i'm not saying that i'm talking about the perception people are perceiving this as a westernization as mohammed said men trying to bring in western a zation and even if we talk about personal experiences living in jordan or the like we should be aware that there are some very important signs about the resistance to liberalization that is taking place in the arab world think about the elections after the arab spring in the first free and fair elections who dominated it was

islamist leaning parties they're the ones who dominated the liberals were very very far behind look at the reaction to this turkish drama on netflix their list after all which is taking the muslim world by storm why it doesn't have any special hollywood epic scenes it's only because the the the hero is somebody who believes his success comes from god or comes from his religion in other words this is there it's deeply rooted in society and the reason why i say this is because the implementation of liberalization as it's being advocated today is counter to what many people in the arab society want in other words it's coming in as you have to think about it why is liberalization in the arab world according to many arabs according to many muslims it is the result of a rabid colonial oppressor who came in and demolished and islamic empire that had deviated from islamic principles so in other words liberalization today is simply the victor imposing their own values on a people that i'm societies are saying look you have a ready made recipe for success it is in islam and islamic principles if we're talking about women's rights islam guarantees human rights pursue it in the

framework of islam doc a framework of liberal position which has an aura. of a country becoming liberal can a country like saudi arabia liberalized so. wolf unless it has a genuine liberal leadership because what sammy seems to be saying is that people are prepared to protest as and when they want to to get more liberal rights and yet they are gifted to them and taken away by people who are completely illiberal. yeah i think i mean not just for saudi arabia i think we need a time and i think change is becoming very still i mean in that region but surely it would come i mean now i really believe that of course now i mean there is no there isn't any genuine. really will political will in saudi arabia so to speak about really liberating women and or saw granting women their rights

as for example male guardian ship system is their women and they can't to travel abroad because they have to have the permission of that many guardian either their fathers their brothers their husbands what a bit of that i to do even study abroad they have to be accompanied by a male guardian so yes that odd am still we are living in a very harsh situations as women in that region but i think slowly but surely the. advancement and progress could rest their development of women's position will be coming that is still a need but shortly you know as i mentioned we are witnessing lots of developments in other regions tunisia in in march two thousand this year

i participated in a demonstration where women's groups human rights organizations political parties they are demanding for equal inheritance rights so this is this is there for us in that in that debris journey is quite inventive progressive step that women are taking lead and you know asking for dead rights because i mean. we are living in a difference to is a different life you know women now are heading the cemetery of women they are gram . sorry. sorry go ahead sam what was the point of the minority i'm saying the use in the example of inheritance is a very very bad example only one person does not i think into account context of society the other roles in society it cannot be called progress and what sipsey has done here is appeal to an international audience a secular audience at the expense of a majority a semi conservative society it is a tyranny of the minority what simpson is doing in tunisia but the rest of your

points i mean i can agree with that woman's rights definitely there should be more i mean just one for one one point two seven in london how much of this you've already touched on this how much of this say when we look at a situation surrounding the company around co is about a country's ability to look outward instead of being in sooner and looking in on itself there are other countries in this region that are quite outward looking and they are or they have successfully diversified into other industries because they're playing a long game the game is as long as the game that saudi arabia is playing but saudi arabia still behaves as if it expects the rest of the world to come to riyadh as opposed to riyadh going to the rest of the world. well sooner or later they will need the words to deal with them and help them the diversification programme you referred to is not going to achieve much shortly when you talk about saudi aramco which is the main source of

income for saudi arabia they are talking about the i.p.o. which is the initial public offering of selling five per cent of saudi arabi cannot be productive assets of oil but different assets for one hundred billion dollars that is not going to happen and i will tell you why because the saudis have valued the i.p.o. at more than hundred billion dollars that cannot be right because based on the proven reserves of oil they have. many organisations including ords three general and the world bank and many other analysts said that the value could be based on smaller proven reserves saudi arabia ses it has proven there's two hundred sixty eight billion barrels my research

shows that that is between eighty and ninety billion and many other experts also agree with that so if you base the i.p.o. value on that smaller reserves i think the value of the i.p.o. is between fifty to seventy five billion still saudi arabia with their eyes is only prices now it does not have to sell at any percentage in the saudi aramco it doesn't need the money financially with the improvement of oil prices that's why i say the i.p.o. is not going to happen. what will happen in that village rick is in is concerned three it on adding value to your oil exports is stead of exporting oil as crude oil exported as a refined products more of petro chemicals saudi arabia could without the next two

or three years domineer the petrochemical industry is in their world and become the major burger useta and the major export that for about a more they can use even five per cent of their oil revenue to expand food production that's an important part saudi arabia imports more of that thirty billion that is a year over food but here has got mostly coming from ok you keep point man who is clear then they are basically saying that they have had and they will continue to have an awful lot of money in the bank so they can absorb the hit souad to what degree is this a difficult course souad what one one question to you to what degree is this a difficult course for bin sell man to plot in as much as when there was the when there was the vogue magazine cover of a saudi princess posing in

a car because she's got her driver's license so she will have her driver's license there was a backlash against that not against per se women driving but against the fact that n.b.s. has has opened up this pandora's box his critics might say of cosmetic changes but how easy is it for him to possibly close that pandora's box. well i am i had in a didn't see the ad that you are mentioning. about the princess of saudi arabia driving and the whole debate about that but i want to comment on what my colleague has just mentioned is that. yes i mean i don't agree with him that what i have mentioned about tunisia is there is a negative or a bad example because this is the just there just to show and indicate that women are you know asking for their rights in the in what country is it to the extent

that it might according to some interpretations it might contradict islam and the shoddy are so this is one one aspect of that i mean if we want to concentrate on women driving in so deborah i don't think it is just the issue austria women. you know just calling for the driving they have been activists for years you know calling for ending male guardianship system which controls every aspect of their life i think we have i mean that i as women in the region and elsewhere to be treated as citizens in the country we have lots lots of discrimination in the low end in that implementation of the laws and in a what cultures although we have good sometimes good to additions and cultures where women should be respected and you know and even islam you know they provide women with respect and so on but still i mean discrimination is there and we need

to change the attitudes of people you know by working with the communities i really believe that it is a long process is slow process but we have to dig and continue women in that egypt has been working for years and still discrimination is that ok we are heading towards the end of it for a gram. very very quickly so one more point to sami hamdi in london what is it about the leadership that the appear to be tone deaf to the nuances that other countries are expecting them to apply when it comes to this process of becoming more liberal and opening up i think of the liberals don't give saudi a break i mean you have to think about there's a lack of are there like explain again as a lack of understanding as to just how deeply embedded these religious influences are i mean what you want to have been some men to do to go banging down every single door and telling everybody it's time to be liberal this is a if he wants to implement it has to be a process but also his western allies don't help him at all by forcing him into

a position to be pro israel and israel palestine cause i mean the biggest problem is this in the muslim world there is a very stark comparison to mohammad and some in the region that is ed again and again is unashamedly muslim he got he rebuked angela merkel probably publicly for using the term islamist terrorism he opposed transparent and he's defying washington you compare that to mohamed bin so man who is going to washington and pleading to be king or mohammed as aden in u.a.e. justifying trying to travel that there is a very dire is a dichotomy now in the region and many people prefer to ganz approach because it's more islamist the western allies are telling mom of insulin you need to be quicker one of us alone is sitting there in his chair thinking ok if i go i want to put the last two points of the program to do son of a allies we're in london as well in thirty seconds ma'am do because we are out of time if these women who've been detained praised the government and thanked them for the right to drive as opposed to pay praise the campaigners who they might see

got them the right to drive would not be under tension. well. some of that question and batiks i would say that we will not see and hear the forms of the god of the woman or any of that informs. the short that i would venture out of to say rudin see it even in twenty five years you'll have to separate the aspects of religion from running a company and that cannot be any coincided in saudi arabia in my lifetime if not fair that it be ok we must leave it there thank you all so much for your time today thanks to all our guests from london sunday hamdi who joined us from the british capital in amman we had and also in london we had me and thank you too for your company here on inside story you can see the show again of course any time via the website al-jazeera dot com and for more discussion that's why our

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between the leaders of the united states and north korea president donald trump touched down a few hours ago. arrived on sunday it will be wished away to a heavily guarded hotel trump hopes to win a legacy making deal with the north to give up the nuclear weapons concedes it may take more than one meeting on diplomatic editor james bays reports. a moment of history the leader of north korea first and then the u.s. president several hours later arriving in the same city this on off summit is now effectively under way the face to face meeting aimed at diverting a nuclear crisis taking place on choose day kim jong un borrowed a plane from china to bring him here he's probably the least well traveled leader on earth in charge of his isolated nation for six years he had met no other foreign leader until this year he came to singapore with his own body guard unit and

brought his own armored limousine on a cargo plane again supplied by china remarkably it's only nine months since president trump told the u.n. general assembly he was prepared to annihilate pyongyang diplomacy did finally kick in with north korea sending a delegation to south korea's winter olympics in february. a historic summit at the demilitarized zone between the two koreas was followed by a secret trip by then cia director mike pompei oh the first of two visits he made to pyongyang they paved the way for this summit in singapore trump briefly canceled this summit last month and he's repeatedly threatened to walk away if he doesn't believe the negotiations is serious a tough line but at the same time trump has been sending mixed messages to kim before he flew to singapore he was asked what he wanted to achieve at this historic

summit but i had a minimum i do believe at least we'll have met each other we will have. seen each other hopefully we will have liked each other and will start that process i would say that would be the minimal no demand then for the north korean leader to commit to completely give up his nuclear capability but experts say that kim is also well aware that trump is unpredictable and that he's coming from another summit the g seven where he fell out with his closest allies a meeting where the optics are positive meaning trum gets a handshake with someone and it agreeing to some kind of nuclear the need nuclearization deal would go a long way to mescaline for president from as much as it would for the. north korean state community so in in all likelihood i think the north koreans are. upbeat but they are careful with the same time as kim had a brief courtesy meeting with singapore's prime minister news emerged that he was

planning to leave the city just five hours after his meeting with trump that suggests there will not be lengthy substantive talks but we shouldn't discount the idea that the north korean side may perhaps of those proposed timings as a negotiation tactic james ways al-jazeera singapore representatives from both sides are carrying out last minute preparations and having meetings to ensure tuesday's summit goes smoothly but there's no guarantee of success can really help it has this update from singapore. the u.s. president touching down here at the bar air force base here in singapore just hours after kim jong il in the north korean leader also arriving now with the arrival of these two leaders in place the work begins in preparation for that meeting that will take place on tuesday there have been teams here on the ground working feverish late not just to get the logistics in place but also to set the right tone

for the table the u.s. president tweeting while he was on air force one that he believed that this was a one time opportunity he believes the north korean leader will not waste also saying that he believes that kim jong un is ready to work towards peace and prosperity for his nation certainly this is something that the u.s. is offering as leverage towards achieving the goal of denuclearized ation something that has been very hard to define between the two sides but that gap closing but what will be difficult is the measurable steps so as a result there is going to be a lot of pressure on these two leaders to prove that this is more than just a photo opportunity but something that can be achievable starting with what the u.s. president calls a dialogue. was extern fish is an associate editor at foreign policy magazine and a senior fellow at the asia society center on u.s. china relations he joins us live from new york thanks for being with us so what do

you expect to come out of this summit. i think the symbolic things that come out of the sum will be a lot more important than any sort of deliverables that we get i think trump will really want to be able to sign something with north korean leader kim jong un so he can take that home and say look i was able to start solving the north korean problem other past presidents that the u.s. has had have not been able to do this but i have me mention the past presidents in that they have some of them come close to having a meeting with with came in but then they've or with the north korean leadership as it was then but they then shied away from it because of the kind of scale of what it means so do you think it's still a gamble to to meet the north korean need to at this stage when there isn't actually anything on the table but certainly a huge gamble and i think trump has used the bit of sophos tree there by saying i'm the one who could meet with the north korean leader because basically every past

president could have decided to do that if they wanted to so trump gets credit for being bold here and going where other u.s. presidents could have gone but decided not to go and he cuts a lot of worrying looks and worrying concern from me and other americans by the hasty unprepared nature of this very very important meeting all known not to me not to the g seven fallout how likely is it do you think that this will go smoothly . i think because the g. seven was such a disaster that i think trump doesn't want to have two disasters meetings back to back especially this one which he's placed so much of his legitimacy on as someone who understands foreign policy he's been saying for months that he is someone who can just go into a meeting and size up kim jong un and figure out how to deal with him so this

meeting is a disaster i think trungpa lose a lot of credibility and i think that is bad for american interests because if trump feels like he really needs to make a deal then it's possible that kim jong un will be able to get the upper hand in these negotiations so just to go back to the to what comes out to meet him you said they wouldn't be necessarily kind of concrete deliverables as you put it but what would be a success for both trump and kim. i think kim has already succeeded by having this meeting and a success for kim will be being able to go back to north korea and maintain control of his state i mean there's a lot of domestic factors for kim jong un that are at play that we just don't know about because of how paid north korea is so we've spoken earlier in the show about kim possibly leaving on tuesday five hours after the meeting and that could have absolutely nothing to do with trump it could just be kim jong un is afraid of being

away from his country for too long because he could potentially get deposed as for trump i think he needs to both look like a strong leader who protects american interests but also someone who understands the intricacies of the north korean situation and is able to protect american interests by not giving too much away and i have much more faith in his ability to do the first than i do in his ability to do the second just about to the end of the build up to his end on tuesday and can be how could mention the kind of preparations of the meetings that going on in the background how important the figures in the entourage of both men how critical are they to making this breaking it i think they certainly are very critical we don't know exactly the dynamic on the north korean side on the american side john bolton the national security adviser has long been an advocate of a very very harsh policy against north korea has long been an advocate of regime

change and he publicly has been very restrained about how he thinks trump should deal with north korea and will be really interesting to know in what subtle way is bolton is trying to push to get his ideas out there to try to get trump to be harsher on north korea as extend fish thank you very much indeed to feel thoughts on the subject thank you. well as trump and kim met professor talk about nuclear disarmament in north korea countries meeting in china trying to salvage the iran deal on uranium enrichment donald trump withdrew from the agreement with world leaders last month at the shanghai cooperation organization summit iran russia and kazakhstan have vowed to uphold the deal currently reports from beijing. a pledge of support for iran's nuclear deal russia iran kazakstan promising to fully implement the three year old agreements

despite the u.s. pulling out. of course our country cannot be but worried about iran nuclear program u.s. withdrawal from the comprehensive plan of action can further destabilize the situation . russia is in favor of consistent and unconditional implementation of the deal. i. put in spoke at the shanghai cooperation organization or s.e.u. summit held in the eastern city of qingdao russia is one of the eight as you know members together these countries represent forty percent of the world's population and twenty percent of global g.d.p. so badgeman well germany and a power politics still disease in the world the growing call for a more just and equitable international order must be heeded the mocker see international relations is an unstoppable trend of the time.