tv NEWSHOUR Al Jazeera June 11, 2018 9:00pm-10:00pm +03
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his body was found at her mobile home and her boyfriend joe hudson whose body was discovered seven miles away and here again the f.b.i.'s crime lab where testimony was used as the main evidence to convict him. in this case d.n.a. was finally tested of a hair that was alleged to john helping to found in the bed of the murder victim diana bakker that was the key evidence of the prosecution brought up there was a ninety nine point nine eight percent likelihood that the hairs found at the scene were hits now we know it's a zero percent chance likelihood because the d.n.a. testing shows that these were not his hearers. the judge found in his order that's without the hair evidence being heard by the jury there's a substantial likelihood the jury would record it and. i'm going to visit john huffington where he's been living since he got out of
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prison. so i don't think it's a yes. or no. this is the transition well you know you bit i mean you're five weeks i came straight from prison i was eighteen when i when i came out was fifty. that would been thirty two years in that two months. currently have a double room but i've been writing. almost as hard for me to learn from up ok i got hold of my attorney michael offer who tends to work early and he was very excited on the phone and when you say. he does hard money he's like john oh yeah and he's like well we've got these. sleek it's not your hair and that
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was like ok you know cheetahs came out. this is my room it is home for now i don't. spend a lot of time here like tree new blue sky above my fresh air in my face but you know again this is not a six by nine cell that i'm sure with another man this is you know one hundred ten percent but since it's only been five weeks when you put your head down do you think of yourself still being imprisoned well one thing i used to do is like when i was in a cell that i didn't want to be in play and then she moved to where i wanted to be it's you know i always name of that but i would never pull back let them sleep right on top of it and there is that in my file we share the subconscious i guess i just i don't feel that spread back so i have made myself i'm not that comfortable
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yet so i just sit on top. i guess it's just not really. off and in is out on bond after a judge vacated his sentence but could soon find himself back in prison because of other evidence in this case. essentially we are in pretrial now because the state has announced its intention to attempt to retry john huffington for these crimes for which he's already served thirty two years. it's incredible that this cannot reach finale after thirty two years and after the way that false evidence was presented to the jury in this case it's just one is you just don't believe it's happened you know you don't believe it happened you don't believe it's still happening and you know it's just you truly believe that this is going to fix this is a mistake and it's going to come it's going to come around it's going to get fixed
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. do you think to mr guilty you know that's the thing about the criminal justice system is that unfortunately trials are often not about seeking the truth but rather who presents the best narrative so far we've only heard one side of these stories we still need to hear from the families of the victims that huffington and then ng were convicted of murdering. willie manning's execution was stayed after the f.b.i. emitted that the hair and ballistics testimony used to convict him for the double murder of tiffany miller and john stack was scientifically invalid. manning still sits on death row is one of thousands of cases reopened since former f.b.i. agent fred whitehurst blew the whistle on the f.b.i. crime lab procedures they should be honest and they're trying to tell you look at this without any bias in all that they tell you what they think you can find you had better make sure that this thing came out a particular way the f.b.i.
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has human enterprise what do you mean by that human enterprise and human enterprise fails. the problem that the bureau has got is if they fail. and you find out about it. world finds out about it it's a big big deal because they hold themselves out above that we're not human we're almost god like. because the system is a human enterprise and everyone involved has their own claim to the truth we have somebody who has for two decades claimed his innocence and to be balanced and fair i want to hear the other side so we've come to madison this is simply to meet them cold she's the mother of tiffany miller tiffany was one of the victims that manning is accused of murdering. your girl and you're going to meet you thank you so much for doing this to sell her yeah she's a little tricky thing she was she was like
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a low plastic no this was a first if you like to. i say sure. one of the last times i remember talking to or was my birthday she worked in store all the time and they would let her off that for her to come home so i got really really nice and i can member. then i didn't say a belt to her because i was some oh that was. but you know this as that very thing that i remember being so you know you. are ok. did you see this man face the say so.
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i came up as the world is long oh wonderful child. to be green. would you like to like just by going on camera i don't want to go on you know you just don't think these things are going to happen i mean you go about these kinds of things happen to other people exactly or either they're in a situation where it's like drug day leno or or out when they're not supposed to be or what ever that's that's who this happens to but it didn't it came in my home. and and everything completely changed it's twenty one years later what do you understand happened she was in her last year of it. and they were in the middle of finals. with a draw manning had broken into a boy's car. he had stolen leather jacket he had stolen
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a hoodie that goes round the drain we think he had me and john mark down to sigma ca. and count him right in the molly's car and took them back gunpoint at that moment. he got john to drive to the sentimental and he stand in the passenger side. he shot gun in the back of behavior. and then he took taking his car and ran over john. who drove tiffany out in the woods. chattering the miles in the shallow end of henri. the sheriff's department and their buddy first got there they didn't know dave knew it was a mob and they followed drag marks and that's how they found tiffany. when i was told that she had been. my first impression was to change places with
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her. for many years i'm still there know met pole work and think ok we're going to mess with. an interview like what we just did with the mother of tiffany. it's just devastating because you see how deeply they believe in the original trial they want anality they don't understand why the case is being called into question and you can understand their feelings. i wanted to hear firsthand what the atmosphere in starkville was like after the murders so i went to talk to a journalist at the clarion ledger jerry mitchell covered the murders and the trial . here is. a film that. pamela to see you know. a member of covering all this stuff and those huge headlines.
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we have this horrible crime that anyone arrested yet and you know who did it who did it then less than a month later another brutal double murder took place at a housing project just a few miles across town. and then also and you have these two elderly african-american women who were killed. and it's also horrific to have their throats flip. so this is this awfulness this time go around solution very much huge pressure on the on the police to arrest and find somebody guilty of this whoever was there won't want to get them. elect up in the air wondering if the killer is son elisa and and it being students our age that's what's really scary because the trip happened to any of us. with starkville on edge after the two double murders local authorities were trying hard to solve these crimes we have been
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trying to get an interview with the sheriff and the district attorney to hear their perspective on the case so far they've declined to be interviewed and. in the frustrations of doing these kinds of cases a lot of people when they feel the heat don't want to talk. so from the records this is what we know about the investigation the fear. he was that the car burglar was also the murderer so the investigation first centered on tracking down the stolen items from the car of john sticklers friend. weeks after the crime one of the items was found the sigma chi fraternity huggy which was used to hold a beer can fire fighters walked out of the woods with one in his hands and in this a. couple weeks ago that he was looking for. on the sheriff's suspect list was willie jerome manning he was known to have broken into cars on the m s u campus the huggy was found about five miles from manning's home manning was already in custody for unrelated crimes. as the investigation continued manning cellmate told police
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that manning confessed to him about the burglary and the murders. took five and a half months but tonight there is an arrest in the murders of two mississippi. twenty four year old really jerome morning also known as fly is charged with two counts capital murder in the december sayings of pamela tiffany miller from madison and john stack of natchez manning's ex-girlfriend provided another set of clues she had a leather jacket given to her by willie manning similar to the one stolen from the car she also said she had seen manning shooting a tree with a pistol in his back yard. bullet fragments found near the tree provided forensic evidence that could be compared to the bullets found in the bodies. with this accumulation of evidence the authorities are confident they have the culprit in custody and charged willie manning with the murder of the m.s. you students. but it was just the beginning a year after his arrest manny was also charged with the murder of two elderly
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african-american women police found a witness who claimed that he saw manning entering the victim's apartment the night that they were killed. when i went to visit harris the former girlfriend of kevin lucius the man who testified as the key witness against manning. when the two young ladies were killed the merge took place and brew for a garden and it's like five minutes away from me my baby day it was in my life. the police got in touch with kevin in st louis missouri he was being charged on a double murder. and they went up there and spoke with kevin and say they can get. the murder charges up there if he cooperated with the murder trial that was going on down here. for us all the way he came by and say that they was gone charge me kevin with the murders if we didn't cooperate. and so i told him i didn't
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know anything and they told me there they knew i had a newborn baby and it was real intimidating and thinking that my i was going lose my. and they would make me feel like i won't be in jail alone time they wanted me to write out a statement stating their i was living in a garden and they had me kevin and my daughter was looking out the window. and we witnessed the flash willimantic kicked open and what to get into the door and one at would bloody clothes on. and. it was in turn. and we met at whitney's net and valuable and in fact we kishen kevin didn't move into the brookfield garden apartment until a month after the murders took place and the police records confirm this. but i know for fact that he did not kill those two ladies because we were paid to i say that he did. the trial hinged on kevin's testimony manning was convicted and
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sentenced to death. but had the apologize to him for what i hear what i hate. to do all these years the apologetic that will start but it's a ten and i was scared that i didn't know what else to do and i didn't want to go to jail and i had me a baby. years later both kevin lucius and lee kesha harris recanted their testimony. well manning's execution is on hold as the court decides whether or not to grant him d.n.a. testing. john huffington is on the outside with an uncertain future is currently working a project server a transitional job training and counseling program for former inmates so now.
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you've got a player that actually just. you know the service says i find myself in right now still stressful and i'm out but i'm not out i'm out on bail i'm still facing you know a new trial new process. prosecutor you know he's not letting that in this go so he has one foot on a banana peel in the sense you know i can't i can't make long term plans i can't engage in a career i can't engage in a relationship because it's not. a new future driven day to day trip. volcano erupted explosively last thing boiling ploughs of steam and ash and rock high into the atmosphere scientists say it's not unusual for eruptions to stop and start up again later. it has been spilling lava continually for more than thirty
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no potential agreement will fail to adequately address the north korean threat. the ultimate objective we seek from diplomacy with north korea has not changed the complete verifiable and irreversible denuclearization of the korean peninsula is the only outcome the united states will accept the united nations is trying to negotiate a cease fire in yemen to avert an attack by saudi and iraqi coalition forces on the main port the un's warning attacking her data could cause mass casualties food shortages and diseases in afghanistan is so sangamo has blown himself up in the capital kabul killing twelve people and injuring at least thirty others earlier three suicide bombers told the education department in the eastern city of jalalabad but security forces say they managed to kill the attackers before they detonated their explosives the un is warning of a bloodbath in the syrian province of its calling for
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a full investigation into government as strikes on the area which is considered a deescalation zone under an international agreement the u.n. says the fighting is leaving the two and a half million people in need live with no place to go. the u.n. says italy and malta must allow six hundred migrants stranded on a rescue boat in the mediterranean to disembark a charity boat picked up the mostly african migrants in a series of operations at the weekend italy's threatened to close its ports to rescue ships malta says it had nothing to do with the rescue operation. and ethiopia is promising that building the largest dam in africa won't cause water shortages in egypt if the o.p.'s prime minister abbie ahmed has had two days of talks in cairo he says hydro electricity from the four billion dollar nile river dam is vital for ethiopia's development those are the headlines of the system fraud forensics continues next year.
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john huffington is on the outside with an uncertain future. you know we all make choices a degree of this younger. we are through sophomore year of high school. both my parents the very words came my father's ph d. my mother had a master's both teacher taught at different points in their careers so education was like really a pair of. stepped away from all and took a left turn and got into the party scene and you know put myself in the wrong choice and waste. i was doing drugs and it was in the eighty's and cocaine was coming in at that point it was a new thing you know is the big thing and there's a lure to the money you know the reputation of prestigious comes with and.
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long haul to situation and i find myself you know still there. is a pretty weird d.n.a. evidence. that holds them in this case. d.n.a. was finally tested on the hair that was alleged to a ball to john helping to failed in the bed of the murder victim diana bakker but. that was not the only piece of evidence and there is other. but is this a jest that he might have done the crime and so to be interesting to see what the family has to say we're heading over to go talk to bill watson the brother of diana becker. a lot of things oh yes there were later chairperson chased me to thank you for having this is july fourth one nine hundred sixty nine. diana was the tongue trolling group called the skipper rats and to the to the people
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forms she was one heck of a baton twirler. she did this for many many years she actually love that activity. diana was a very kind person. here's just a natural warmth and love that's dinah there and myself. she end up getting married very very young because she got pregnant she was sixteen ok and that marriage. had failed as many as young marriages do she was on her own for a while raising her son danny. cresent she met joe hudson joe was a disc jockey. and they actually cohabitate it up until the time of her death. must've been obviously i was there i can't imagine what i didn't get the news and. i guess it was may twenty fifth one thousand nine hundred the phone rang as my my
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mother on the phone obviously upset and she just says to me time is dead. as what she was dying is dead in that state of shock at the time in a course of first thing i was like what happened and she said she was murdered across our brush rather the house and my mother was there uncontrollably sobbing. and i just sat with her for about an hour two hours probably is holding her own. and. in the summertime they'd go down to this camp local campground police said they'd interviewed a couple that had been with joe and diana the night before they were supposed to have breakfast with them the next morning and that's when their friends. entered the trailer. and sold diana and danny was in the trailer he was screaming out my mom's all covered with blood and she won't wake up. to stab thirty times her throat
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was slit back to the backbone of goodness salling marks that he tried to sell or head off as you know her skull was crushed but they have evolved a bottle filled with coins. johansson was killed almost execution style. he was shot and then you had one shot to the forehead. the murders were associated with a civil leader to drug dealers. and like oh dinah was involved trogs or least we didn't know it all but then come to find out that diana listenership joe is you know i guess toys contain dealing. and then a news story coming in a little bit. they had a couple suspects. do you know canaris was a known drug dealer john huffington eighteen times. canaris surrendered to police and agreed to cooperate in exchange for
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a reduced sentence he was released in two thousand and eight after spending twenty seven years in prison. often was arrested within forty eight hours but always maintained his innocence claiming he was home alone sleeping when the murders took place any comments on the charges against the evidence against huffington seemed overwhelming a hair found on diana vickers body was matched to him by the f.b.i. crime lab huffington fingerprint was also found on the box the bottle used to kill diana bakker canaris testified that he watched huffington kill both diana becker and johansson. i think then was found guilty of both murders in november of one thousand nine hundred one and ultimately sentenced to two life terms it was vicious it was almost like. she was hated tell me why you think john huffington is guilty there's two pieces of physical evidence that placed john huffington at the scene of the crime one was the hair evidence that was later found to be inaccurate
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through d.n.a. testing the second was his thumb print on a vodka bottle which was one of the murder weapons it was his thumb was in a position on that bottle that was consistent with a bludgeoning sounds far as we're concerned yes ok i grant you the hair evidence. was inaccurate. but then you have other evidence that placed in there ok let's concede that it's a bad hair or put it aside we've got the bought the bottle and the vodka bottle has huffington fingerprint on it but it has a lot of other people's prints on it also and that bottle was in the trailer for anyone to touch. the justice system it's in the hands of human beings and both sides that we've met so far are personable and believable and it just kind of a penalizes. how the. justice system run by human
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beings can run off the rails. an example of this is the disastrous work of one agent in the f.b.i. crime lab exposed by fred whitehurst michael moore who's an agent in the laboratory i. should say agent when you look at him you said this is the kind of guy i want to be like. to examine or such from the lab in florida came to me consider you guys stop this guy michael malone stop him from doing what. over inferring the here data . we tracked all of the loans cases about eight hundred thirty six men he testified false false or misleading. after fred whitehurst was forced to leave the f.b.i. he started the forensic justice project with david cole up in tow. trucks in there this is documents that were referred by the justice department to the f.b.i. . i love this stuff. through this organization they filed freedom of information
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act requests to investigate all of the cases touched by michael malone that's that's what we want to know who alone might have hurt so friends of justice project general counsel david cope and joe. but all these foia requests getting any information all of that in. cases that michael malone might have been involved and we got them this is the huffington yes that's right ok so then it got assigned to someone at some point mr malone comes and so this is malone testified and we need to survive get down here just a little bit and look at this michael malone analyze the evidence and john huffington is double murder case there were two hairs found at the scene under the bed sheet one on the bed sheet itself and one on the garter belt of the victim. that was the key evidence of the prosecution brought up that's what put him at the
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time and place of these murders. in one thousand nine hundred nine and internal report found problems with what michael malone a down in the huffington case. with their analysis we're told is real microscope you don't know how many characters you can have to match you can choose how many match and it's depending upon the person that's doing the analysis not upon fact not upon data not upon a standard. we knew that there were problems with this technique there are many documented cases where analysts including michael malone but not limited to michael out have matched things like carpet fibers to head hair he did not testify consistently with his notes he'd excluded hairs without explaining why he was excluding hairs could match chairs without explaining why he match shares he hadn't taken hair samples from all of the people who might have been in contact with the body. this internal f.b.i.
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report was completely unknown to us until an investigative reporter from the washington post contacted us about that report in november two thousand and eleven . a series of articles in the washington post revealed that flawed forensic work by f.b.i. experts may have led to the conviction of innocent people and the u.s. department of justice knew about these flood practices for a long time. those reports that we generated from that were now. may be may readily available not not just to the public but just to the tourney's in the news the cases that were involved and if it wasn't for the washington post we were known today. they looked at several cases in particular the age of michael malone's involved they were just looking for background because he had been involved in my case and we did know they had the f.b.i. files so you know that was just you know you know.
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it's a matter. of. you want to tell you right here ok and it was. twelve years ago in my case it could fix to. fifty one that's another twelve years of lost . him don't get it back. michael malone. was determined to have like twenty seven times under oath at that time every wheel on that car should come to a screeching halt in every case mr mone had ever worked should have been reviewed and he should of work no more cases if they found out there was a problem which they did. they were unable to test the hairs and this fully how is it that the hairs were eventually tested yes it was only when the f.b.i. got involved again that they were able to actually test the hairs so the f.b.i.
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lab itself was the lab that eventually determined the john huffington could not be matched her d.n.a. to these hairs. they were able to interpret the shoddy work of their own analyst we reached out to the f.b.i. for an interview but they refused our request in a written response they stated there is no reason to believe the f.b.i. laboratory employed flawed forensic techniques microscopic hair analysis is still conducted at the f.b.i. lab surprisingly the f.b.i. has offered to pay for d.n.a. testing in the manning case but the state of mississippi has refused if we are able to test those hair fragments we could possibly determined who the real perpetrator is or definitely exclude willie manning is being the force of the hair that was found in the car his mistress and his mr huffington and that's for us to decide. when we the truth before. you make comments on the charges against somebody
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can take you sir away from whatever your family is. something you never did that you were never supposed to and put you in a cage and in a death chamber it's not a job. for individuals who challenge the system as fred whitehurst it there seems to be a heavy price to pay one of the costs of ensuring a level playing field in the criminal justice system f.b.i. director louis freeh is cleared of any blame and gets credit for starting to make reforms but today's report recommends against putting frederick whitehurst back in the crime lab where i came. very significant problem that the f.b.i. and this is their response to me you know. if you don't go along with the crowd it gets harder and harder harder and. then you find yourself marginalized put off in
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a corner sent for. fitness for duty evaluation. sitting in a room with a psychiatry's who ask you a bunch of silly questions for nine hours. is it worth it. is mr huffington worth it. my personal position is every american citizen and every human being is worth. but there's a big price to pay you when you take that position. the potential reach of this systemic problem is astounding it wasn't just a couple of analysts it was a significant number of people in the lab analysts in the lab managers in the lab who were just allowing bad and misleading work to come out of the well. there was simply not very many. experience scientists in key lab positions. the. two thousand ton pink elephant in the
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courtroom is that the f.b.i. trained every year examiner united states in craps. there are hundreds of thousands of hair cases where people came in to look through a microscope for a week or two weeks at the most went home and started rendering opinions about whether he or mr not. the f.b.i. cannot force the states to look at those cases. and the states are not going to do it the notion that when presented with a clear and unequivocal an undeniable evidence. that you convicted the wrong person that people won't step away from that and do their very best as quickly as possible to acknowledge that there was a mistake made and to try to remediate the problem and make amends to the defendant i find that extraordinarily disappointing in the case of william adding a request to analyze d.n.a. has been made but the prosecution. fighting this motion. i've never understood why
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the state was opposing testing in this case the law is clear that you know we should be able to do this. if you had to boil it down in a nutshell you know like what do you want people to know about your case we should take a closer look at the system as a whole my case will bring a lot to light i don't believe that there is any part of this. but this is not as advertised this system is broken you have many many many more will be manning that. came before me and the system stays the same that we may be more coming behind me. what is your hope for the future new things this is going to work itself out one day i thought it would be a lot to be back in like mighty mighty seven when when when you have anything people in you have in the people for real and those who are for real. given that you have ten seconds left on this home. run you think.
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by. having. such a good. number. i was going to say. i guess with. care. we don't want to be don't. we want to form we will. consume. over something else other than the. even though it's frustrating even though it's doesn't give you finale yet is there a place in this justice system where even if somebody is guilty they should have some benefit of looking into that issue i do understand that they have found innocent eight how they would go that when they have got. a d.n.a.
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but in this particular case everything was as clear as mail they're going over something that was proven in court twenty one years ago. on a whim breathe another breath of our air i don't want to fade the mono the mailed out of want to put a roof over his age. and it won't be a final tomato he's day hadn't gone. you know we had a long talk with the mother of tiffany and it's heartbreaking because they are so convinced because they believe in their official they believe in what they've been told how they feel about that right well i understand that. some people might think that this is just a last you know eleventh hour effort to. yeah defer postpone an execution and you know if it works out where it does not help mr manning then at least you
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know we have society now that we've taken every reasonable step to ensure that a catastrophic outcome did not come about if the d.n.a. in willy manning's case is allowed to be tested as it was in john huffington skase and manning is found not guilty horrible outcome will have been averted. it's a crapshoot to bill watson the results of huffington d.n.a. testing has led him to question the fairness of the system for the system to work for you guys you know what has to happen this case for faith in the system can ever be restored. they have to overturn this judge's decision. to be placed once again in jail. without possibility of parole. he needs to die in jail. work elected.
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to do anything. really fond of history. do mazie we see a tree. type of terrain. there is a beautiful tree. justice should be justice and truth this was supposed to be about the should never be a rush to judgment should be politically expedient it should be easy to put somebody on death row it should be easy to take somebody finish in the easy just lock somebody up and throw away the key. there are a lot of good people and i think most of my good people. but what's come to manage that and to protect. you so much energy spent on protecting the f.b.i.'s image. the real victims of this other nation. a nation of people who believed in this
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justice system and find that it is fairy very foreign. we need systems that we trust. but we don't need to trust them blindly. simply the people incarcerated not simply the families it's the communities. it's the nation. circumstances the fact that when her to the murder confessions are useless without corroboration she thought they are questioning her about her being a victim of
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a rape not a suspect in a murder case namely a false confession involves a completely made up story some are say anything thinking they can fix it later but there's no fixing it later many statements are used against them in a court of law this system has job bellenger on al-jazeera. and it's. like. the weather sponsored by cattle. maybe not surprising there's been some snow in the andes in the satellite picture this at least efficient cloud this is just as more on the way through santiago but not obviously in san diego a lot higher ground to the east and there are days in the forecast come the other side from the promise of argentina for example and we've got rain you may want to run a series or not very warm fourteen degrees or rather hot since your own is just out of that rain which is concentrating really in your guy on the southeastern brazil on the line and slowly creep up towards our parlor and exists through the past as
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a seven hundred kilometer march for peace across afghanistan on a day the country sees more tax and debts also this hour the united nations tries to negotiate a cease fire in yemen as the saudi and iraqi military coalition professor take the port city of data and the devastating impact of israel's blockade of gaza on thousands of wounded people denied treatment due to lie. medical supplies. thank you for joining as the wait is almost over for tuesday's historic summit between donald trump and kim jong un in singapore both are due to meet in twelve hours time for their first face to face talks never before has a north korean leader met a u.s. president in office the u.s. secretary of state michael impale told reporters that talks between the two countries are moving rapidly in singapore he says the u.s. will only accept a deal that includes a complete denuclearization of north korea that speaks to our white house
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correspondent kimberly hockett who was at the briefing by the u.s. secretary of state earlier can be the meeting between trump and kim hasn't happened yet but we already know when president trump will be leaving singapore. that's right we certainly know that he will be leaving late in the evening on tuesday but so much will happen followed before that the u.s. secretary of state wrapping up a briefing with reporters just a couple of hours ago and in it he said that the u.s. president when he meets in that face to face meeting with the north korean leader kim jong un will be on a quote mission of peace but there are a lot of questions coming from reporters here in singapore about how the united states will know whether or not the willingness that it believes north korea expresses with regard to denuclearize ation can be verified the u.s. secretary of state saying that the united states will set up a what he called robust system of verification to ensure that if there is going to
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be sanctions relief that in fact the korean peninsula is fully denuclearize take a listen. we are hopeful the summit will have set the conditions for future productive talks. in light of how many flimsy agreements the united states has made in previous years this president will assure ensure that no potential agreement will fail to adequately address the north korean threat the ultimate objective we seek from diplomacy with north korea has not changed the complete verifiable and irreversible denuclearization of the korean peninsula is the only outcome that the united states will accept a committee just listening to the u.s. secretary of state there the u.s. delegation seems pretty upbeat he was very keen to convince the reporters there at that briefing that they were well prepared regardless of what the outcome of the summit is between him and tron both sides i imagine are going to spin this as
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a success as something historic on. certainly there is no question that on the part of the u.s. president that's what will happen but there have already been efforts to dial back expectations in terms of what comes out but most here on the ground believe that there will at least be a common understanding worked out in terms of how this will proceed moving forward that this the u.s. president hopes will be the beginning of a dialogue when the two meet but the process of denuclearization folly will take years possibly even beyond the trump presidency so that's what is so important that is what these very well progressing talks according to the secretary of state seem to be reaping the fact that there is these sort of measurable benchmarks that will ultimately be put in place but the focus for now is that initial face to face meeting we know it will be with interpreters present before they expand to a wider bilateral session with advisors and then a working lunch but again the u.s.
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president leaving eight o'clock pm local time that is certainly something that we are learning as well just before he departs there will be a media availability where we will be able to hear firsthand from the president his reactions ones where he said he would know within minutes of meeting kim jong un whether or not there was a true willingness to denuclearize the united states ultimate goal all right kimberly thank you very much for that kimberly white house correspondent in singapore there now the summit between the two leaders has been on and then off before a u. turn by president trying by the end of may to go ahead with the meeting more now on the background and preparations for the summit from adrian brown in singapore. and in the final before the single pool summit president trump. his motorcade heading to the official office pools prime minister. but the president was not in a talkative mood the prime minister is the host for tuesday's president. good meeting
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and so also has a lot at stake north korea's leader kim jong un who met the premier on sunday says he knows the whole world is watching him and so too are his people. the country strictly managed media was quick to release pictures of kim's arrival reporting that is isolated country would discuss a stablish ing a new relationship with the united states is that significant in some parts of singapore the security is high profile. but appeared to be absent in one of the places where it would have mattered u.s. and north korean officials were just told by the media as they left the hotel where they've been finalizing details for tuesday. trump wants to persuade the north korean leader to disarm a deal that eluded his predecessors and so sanctions will remain until that process
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is going to five a message reiterated by the u.s. secretary of state who says we won't be fooled again the wii matters. that the view matters we are going to ensure that we set up a system sufficiently robust the were able to verify these outcomes and it's only once the v. happens that we'll proceed apace that's that's what's been missed before but that's a process that will eventually have to involve others says the leader of the campaign to abolish nuclear weapons here this could be a historic meeting a beginning of a process towards nuclear disarmament and so it's definitely. has a huge possibility i think that's why it's so important that we don't just leave it up to these two men watching from afar and wishing they were here the leaders of three other countries with important stakes in this summit south korea's president
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in japan's prime minister shinzo are they and president xi jinping of china china of course the north's closest ally and whatever happens here sheeting pain will be hoping it remains that way orderly tightly controlled singapore is playing host to the world's two most unpredictable leaders and that may mean that the only certainty here is the unexpected adrian brown al-jazeera single well let's talk more about the expectations now with mike chinoy who is a north korea expert and the author of meltdown the inside story of the north korean nuclear crisis he's via skype from liverpool thank you very much for your time so we know what the americans want to as we heard the u.s. secretary of state say the complete denuclearization and verifiable denuclearization of north korea the north korean perspective is a bit more unclear what do you think they want out of this summit. the north koreans have made it clear that what they're looking for is
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a fundamental change in that political relationship with the united states an end to what show noon has always cooled the u.s. is hostile policy and the north koreans have also made clear that it needs to see concrete evidence of that change before it takes any step certainly any irreversible steps to roll back its nuclear program and so i think there is still a big question mark about how the two leaders are going to bridge that gap right with the u.s. not prepared to answer on the specifics as we heard there from mike i'm pale but he did talk about new security arrangements on the korean peninsula and hinted at the possibility of the u.s. perhaps pulling its troops out of north south korea how significant would that be would that be enough to satisfy the north koreans you think. well the talk about pulling u.s. troops out of south korea at this stage is still really talk and it's inconceivable that even the trotted ministration would move in that direction without some real
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gestures from north korea i think the problem really is at this point it is not at all clear that the two sides have a common definition of the term denuclearization north korea has always talked about denuclearization of the entire korean peninsula which until yon's you means ending the u.s. nuclear umbrella that protects japan and south korea and scaling down the u.s. military presence in south korea the americans talk about denuclearization is really referring only to north korea's nuclear arsenal so if they can't come to an agreement on the fundamental definition of the problem they're dealing with then making progress on all these other issues is going to be very tricky there are a number of countries watching from the sidelines here we had a guest on area from china mike who told us about how china was perhaps feeling left out that there was no longer off between came home and she didn't pin that pyongyang has not been happy about being so reliant on china and that perhaps you know this was a way for them to say to china you know if we can look. out of people at other
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countries. the russians and the japanese here what do you think would be the best case scenario for these countries watching from the sidelines as hi-z. outcome of this summit. well i think the chinese and to some degree the russians also would like to see a reduction in tensions i think the fact that kim jong un flew on a chinese plane to singapore suggests that his relationship with china is perfectly manageable although i think your previous guest was right i don't think the north koreans like being the little brother to the rather overbearing big brother in beijing and would have long wanted to give themselves some additional diplomatic space with a better relationship with the u.s. i think the japanese are extremely worried that president trump and kim jong un might agree on steps that would lead to a reduction of the threat faced by the u.s. that would be a reduction or elimination of north korea's long range missiles that would enable
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it to hit the u.s. with a nuclear weapon but with less action or no action on intermediate or short range missiles which are and which could japan in the firing line so i think the japanese are very worried and you indeed have some japanese analysts saying that if that is the outcome that you may begin to see talk in japan the tokyo needs to begin to think about developing its own nuclear weapons capability interesting thank you very much for speaking to us. good to get your perspective mike chinoy is a north korean expert joining us there from liverpool thank you for your time. now the wild news now one of the leaders of hong kong's independence movement has been jailed for sixty is twenty seven year old edward known with convicted of rioting in a twenty six thousand overnight protest that turned violent two out of demonstrators were also in jail for taking part in the protests about one hundred thirty people now.
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