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then he continued to outline five points of discussion to open up negotiations i believe also the previous prime minister had a matter of understanding has made mention that it is important to have peace with eritrea and for this border conflict to be resolved but this has been go on for the last sixteen years these announcements the parliament has had these discussions and we. and we have still not seen anything happen so i mean as much as most of us might want to see a reaction from the air tran side i think it's safe to say that you know it's a situation where we'll who will will believe it when it happens right we'll believe it when the european troops. and the. territories and of the terror but if you know if they go ahead if i could jump amongst them. so i when you got for us didn't include all good. started talking all right so let's get
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what common surfers but look what you started right how everyone has something to say about that so i want you go first to two things one the agreement is a very short agreement that has nothing about normalization of relations or economic ties between the two countries it's an international treaty meant to end a conflict so i would want to correct what my friend in august. daniel briana said on the question that russia had was responding to from a purely legal point of view the editor in government is under no obligation to say anything. in response to what the ethiopian government has said and true enough given ethiopia's abysmal record of honor in its international treaties it's understandable that eritrea is. uncertain on whether this is one more false start or this is a serious commitment on the part of the new prime minister on the flip side however
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from a political and diplomatic point of view at a tryst silence is not consistent with or does not fall in line with the dynamics in ethiopia in the past several months especially since the ahmed came to power that the prime minister has been making some of the boldest internal and international moves that are not only beneficial for ethiopia but also beneficial to eritrea and the whole region editorial would be remiss if he does not jump in and help the positive or the constructive hand of the of the new and dynamic prime minister and in this regard i do agree with our look i'm pleased except it's not an obligation on eritrea to respond which then leaves us with if you're still having the ball on that score if prime minister abby is serious about. this announcements which he made and i have no reason to question his seriousness not just him but
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also the executive of the if you already have which is a bunch of very young highly dynamic highly educated forward looking men and women grades and question can i get to the quickly here i will if i if i can if you let me just finish the idea i have no reason to question their their intent in the in the declaration and the the ball being still on their field i encourage them to go through with their declaration and implemented on the ground which is that they unilaterally pull in of the forces of occupation because the land that ethiopia is still occupying is no longer disputed land as our horses have been pointed at this are clearly i fear your i hear your point there i know i was trying to get an owl. and i fully agree with bowles and i'm going to. ethiopia. with. that. by.
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the. that is now given to. it's very it's very that how do you know that you've been called for such a long time that people will start to mix it in pencil in two countries to sit down and negotiate on how to decide on what to eat and the ovals and egos and people be. so ethiopia accepts the decision. why would it be difficult for the guy who. comes to the table and composition about oh well i wouldn't expect i get anyone to answer that great question that's a great question i would forgive me for go ahead finish you wouldn't expect any responsible up on the water to remain silent in the states. you are making kind of overture where you won't tell you that it would but if i can stop you right there a while because you talk about over a ters and giving you know something to eritrea and that eritrea should come to the
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table asking why don't they a lot of people online and it's a really heated discussion around this point on this point as to whether eritrea should come to the table and more importantly if you look at this you two common that came in from kimmie haid they're saying it's important to understand that if europe is not giving anything new essentially the e.c. ruling declares that bugged me is and always will be it has been a part of eritrea which is occupied by ethiopia a lot of people on twitter also if you look at this movie saying every tree has been calling for the implementation of this agreement for the last sixteen years but the us the un and others failed to pressure you theo pia so maybe the question is then you know this last line eritrea doesn't have to respond until a full withdrawal actually happens because as you see right there are a lot of people saying actions speak louder than world words let's give a royal commission and i jump it yes but then i want to hear also from or i'll go ahead. you are absolutely right that from a purely legal point of this is something i want to point out over and over again
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from a purely legal point of view editor doesn't need to say anything if you'll be a house to withdraw its troops and then things would be normalized or talks toward normalization would start but from a purely diplomatic and political point of view it would be remiss not to get involved. but one thing that i want to point out is that but in there has never been if you. and the residents of today or the past sixteen years the vast majority of them are part of european resettlement schemes that have been happening in the past sixteen years or immediately after the e.c. ruling so let's let's not. lose again i don't think there's any evidence to support that claim i think the point is that there is no legal obligation on the part of it in syria. and i think that is also be a problem because. illegal such bans between the two countries the only way in which such an illegal substance that decision will take effect is two
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countries trying to get. out so i was and i will i hear you but i don't want to go too much further in this conversation without at least seeing some of the words of the people in that region because of course this conversation sometimes can feel very high minded but i want to talk to people on the ground and reuters news agency did just that aaron marshall has a journalist for avoiders he spoke to residents of the town about me in the northern tick rate region about this announcement and this is just a sampling of what they told him or read one out why did we fight for bad to me to just give it all away all this sacrifice for nothing for this another person speaking to reuters says the thought of moving these bodies from where they were sacrifice is a desecration of their honor they should not expect peace here if they force us to leave there will be violence so just to residents speaking to the reuters news agency about something that's going to affect their lives raul i know you want to get in here what do you make of what some residents are saying.
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yeah that if the show was about a couple of weeks and weeks long that we'd have enough time to discuss about the complicated situation around the edge and border conflict. but trust me when i say that this is not an issue about just by the minute this is the ground in which that or the real roots of the conflict are much more complicated than that. you know hearing those comments from those residents from by demand i found them quite heartbreaking especially. when we talk about the description of. graves. you know. had fought a thirty year liberation struggle in order to get its independence and then was then had to go back went back to war with ethiopia. tween one thousand nine hundred in two thousand and despite all those things that have happened including the
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deport ation of thousands of eritreans in ethiopians of their kin origins and b.t.o. via the thousands of young people that were killed. one thing that i've heard repeatedly said by your two people is that they will they think find it hard to forgive. the p.l.f. regime in the if you open government for the fact that during the quarter conflict they desecrated the graves of eritrean martyrs now it just so happens that tomorrow is going to be the commemoration of eritrean martyrs day and so. i know a lot of eritreans across the world are reflecting on this but. the point is what i would like to make is that when reconciliation does happen it is going to go beyond just it should have it would have to go beyond just troops. leaving the territory. it would have to involve people also talking to each other not in terms of whether or not the house of people should be moved or not but how can we also we can style
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the pain of the trauma that has been going on for much more than fifty years well if we can get i'll together. you know to have sustained you make you make a good point about you know the history and the pain and you know we put those quotes forward because a lot of people are actually talking about how the agreement was actually drafted as you see bob may on twitter here is saying by the way you're a triangle saying it was drafted without the consultation of the local communities most affected by the borders of the demarcation dividing villages and families but then we also have been as has kind of arguing that the flip side to what you're saying saying here the government of ethiopia accepted the international verdict as it is but ethiopia cannot order its military to leave the strategic positions without some assurance of some form from the government of eritrea so you know this person thinks that the prime minister is taking the high road but because we spoke i spoke about the legal aspect of this was it actually comes down to legally i do want to quickly share. there is video that she sent she's the former lead counsel
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for eritrea she was involved obviously in some of these negotiations back when take a listen to this. so i was asked to comment on what the legal steps are that need to be taken next to mark the new boundary and actually all legal steps have already been taken there's only one thing that remains to be happened to happen and that's not a legal thing that's a practical thing ethiopia has to move its troops it's time for a ethiopia to get its troops off of their territory there are no legal steps remaining to be taken and then i understand you think this is nothing new but based on that last comment from leo what do you think i mean is that the most practical step. no it's not practical in fact i like to point out that without sleep and cutely first the decision by the ship was not in a certain unpretty decision or a more decision not innocently of course it was vague deliberately deliberately deliberately sought but at least we can assume we could up assume that you tried to
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march issue off which you too can have been released on for several years was legally acceptable as a p.r. if statement edited out could have accepted governor spoke at the dutch decision that announcement and could have closed the fight the first. protest rally came after four days in the us not to do it deliberately stayed quite and as a result as a result they took a little shit started back tracking and now they're seeing this money policy so there is a chance for peace which is as uppity clews shut the door on the second point is that i just argument is not just i was a bada let me mention a few pointers how to tell total war prisoners of war have if you are despondent are both going to. have it throughout the seven or between people as part of our disagreement whatever your people and other people in fact if you are
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continuing to abduct people from the border to disdain and there are also other points secession of hostility just war so possible for the larger segment if that continues to last but not on a position by. you see a chart configured by the united nations one time group or somebody and get it or. yes i just missed the point i want them according to. you because i have some points i want to i want to give someone else a chance to respond to that kind of stuff this one is. that you. know his final point and then you go ahead your final point disappoint you support and it's just like. the third to you to come out of these times come to. some of just get us. to put out there for six for the sake of mr stockton ok so i just know how to do was i will tell you from this president to add what i
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think is the obvious there is not a single order on the african continent that there does not exist an ethnic linguistic group on both sides the borders that we have here in africa were set by colonization and unfortunately we have to deal with these borders because in today's modern world we have to. you know have states if peace was possible if you know pete was serious serious about having peace with eritrea it would demilitarize. the border and i would remove the every now and then i'll set out there as well that's normalized relations and it would mean it would be it's not good we shouldn't think about this in terms of you know should we have killers or are or walls to to make the borders if you're fully agrees with you because you just final decision and remove their troops normalisation will not
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talk we're not going to discuss where to put the poles when you talk about how we can sell great you know our diversity and commonalities between these borders between these run hell i'm going to put on the normal very are because as you mentioned this could be a week of shows that's all the time we have for today show i know goes very quickly i want to give the remaining time in our show to our community what are they saying about this or you know there's a lot of different. people who are lamenting how many lives have been lost we have to get to a child come to us are saying considering the precious lives lost and all the resources wasted it's a very painful concession from ethiopia even if it was decided however many years ago but if this helps us achieve a lasting peace between the two countries we just have to move on keep your comments coming on twitter you tube and al-jazeera dot com board slash the stream by for now.
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surprise them with a preemptive strike on the bog. down to zero. for fighting as the saudi a number already coalition looks to secure yemen's who to airport. i'm richelle carey this is al jazeera life also coming up a series of air strikes across the gaza strip israel says twenty five targets and response to rocket fire. under scrutiny and congress battle over his congressional immigration policy of separating migrant families. the grim statistic on world refugee day sixteen million people have been forcibly displaced during the last
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year. government forces in yemen backed by the saudi and morality coalition say they have taken control of parts of potatoes airport in many army is also blocking the road between two data province and the capital that would cut supply lines and stop reinforcements from the who the stronghold sana mom was on the other side of the red sea injured booty were much of the aid for yemen is stopped. the intensity of the bottom floor with the very point. the u.s. backed sodium or.
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