that is already creeping in though into iraq into region republican from missouri is the successor state following the constitution does lucian of the federal united come republics which was the entity that was not properly installed when the united kingdom as their ministry and the united states failed to fulfill their obligation as per you and article so at least be a dream what they are we talking about here we're talking about one nine hundred eighty four so what i'm going to do for a moment is just keep us up to date with where we are right now asked you jack how can it be two very different examples of what is going on how is that even possible . yes go ahead the reason is because there's been systematic assimilation predetermine by the franco come on my lions ever since they started having association with the with the english numbers which is of our country when we have

it when we can gauge it in the unitary state which was if there are comma republics they started dismantling everything that has to do with the federation they have planted in our society to camargue. this false narrative that we are women in the feasible there is but actually if i may because we're going to get stink deep deep into history here and i want to just keep us current it larry you may actually have some clarity for us because we have two different a many different versions of what is going on when you went in as amnesty the violence was something that you looked at not this you go in but reported on and investigated what are you seeing. yes exactly and the two comments points at the fact that in fact the ordinary people the general population is caught between two fires. from both sides and people it's been caught between a rock and

a hard place between. perpetrated by the security forces and the violence perpetrated by the separatists what we have observed on the ground is in fact that the violence is escalating and expression in the last two months there has been an increase in talks in the reprisal attacks by the security forces when the are the separatist trying to attack or attack checkpoints or action there are many stations or army convoys and fighting to. end at an alarming pace and this is resulting also in their humanitarian crisis which is not making headlines with all the twenty one thousand refugees. and more than one hundred sixty thousand in to let the displaced in the regions so it's shows that the situation is taking a turn for the worst and is you know it will get worse before it gets any better

and i this is we think this is fascinating coming from the amnesty perspective because you can i was pushing jang and edwin to even get to a little little bit of that and he didn't talk about that but he could have what's interesting in the by a lens on both sides i actually want to play for all of our viewers an audio comment from a freelance journalist who recently returned from cameroon you can see this tweet from him on my screen here he was reporting on the political unrest for iranian news agency and he interviewed independent fighters now we're not showing his face to the security concerns but this is what he told the stream. i spent a week with a guy who fighters belong to embers and the defense forces in cameron if ken killing dozens of security forces in this time of the conflict what surprised me the most is that they used to be farmers so i've been forced to leave their homes and their crops after the commune an army attacked their villages and so they were left with only two choices to hide in the bush or to become fighters and so today

surfacing in army helicopters and assault rifles and get support from the united states and other countries whereas most of these fighters are new of old guns and so they're left to use a millets to protect themselves from bullets going to expend an article. since october last year when the conflict started me has been burning entire villages and killing civilians according to one cameroonian human rights organisation seventy villages were destroyed by the army and in an investigation that it was a b.b.c. we confirm the satellite images at least six villages had been burned down since october. so that when he shows what he says is evidence of villages being burned down he also talks about the fact that these are farmers who have now taken up arms because of this conflict does that resonate with what that is the truest statement that i've heard from from it genesee and they reflect the truth that is going on in our country today when we stated that we have been subjugated by camera.

and that caused us all kinds of horrific things that can be done when on the people i've been oppressed by the franco come on our alliance right now it has been did we detect it for messing there is in in one of the regions in the northern parts of a contrie white forces white people with white skeins we don't know where they're coming from they could be french legionnaires or they could be french armies actually now fighting alongside come on armies the pillaging village they got a lot of tweets about people saying that we think that french mercenaries are their international mercenaries how how are you confirming that we can only say that because franco come on our land that was signed in one thousand fifteen mind which was to ensure that the french interesting chemical predominates once oil was discovered in them bizarrely or this switched their position from not caring about the federation to fast forwarding their simulation agenda to that we said happened

in one nine hundred seventy two when i had you dissolved if the configuration fortunately for us that same assembly in one thousand nine hundred four dissolve the union so by operation of the law the successful state of not of now the sovereign come alone is a popular from the singhs then we had laid claim that cameron is subjugating and occupying a country but we have another we have never had the international community for instance united nations to call me in and complete the process of fulfilling determination of justice issue which was incomplete and on today it is dawn will never have peace in the region because the only reason why cameron is interested in them. granted because of the wealth that they exported from our territories not that big care models we have the records to prove that any teacher when i was a. minister how i welcome welcome to our conversation is minister said to roma backley he is the minister of information on anything written and to our

conversation minister go ahead well thank you for giving. them. mr jerome a list of communication and spokesperson of the government i would like to express gratitude for giving me the opportunity to voice the government position. as this political unrest in no country in particular in the region of our nation is concerned goes to hurt my brother cameroonian who made a libelous slanderous. description of what the police right now by saying that the government has recruited foreigners to come and delivered. b.c. disrespect for all people. i would like you to

know one thing. you have to believe in washington new york it's so few kilometers away from washington i advise you to go and visit their archives or be united. to understand exactly what hundred picking please come roun it in it but it isn't going to get religion is deliberate and get over to the nation by you do you not a good nation i think but you'd be united if you knew step that's why i want to get some clarity of what's happening right now i know that there is always a temptation with cameroon to go back because it's got a deep colonial history i'd like to keep us up to date for a moment you are right now am i correct in thinking you at the how of the us ambassador to cameroon i don't want more of them leading me would you think. i believe you at the time of the us ambassador to cameroon the reason i mention that is because that ambassador had this to say about the current violence rest in

cameroon have a listen to what you have a listen minister i will say that you know there there is violence on both stacks the governor has committed summary executions the guilty to taining people. access to lawyers to their families even to visit trying to get. the. guilty earning wages or beating. a general or asking a question on the side. against the section mr separatist we've seen in our meetings connecting government officials and schools and so. we want to stress the united states condemns violence won't stop. minister this is what i'm hearing summary executions burning of villages looting

this is by government forces and then on the separatists point site butting of schools beheadings and kidnappings of government officials this is what the us ambassador cameron is seeing he feels this is actually happening how are you going to deal with that thank you madam for giving me this opportunity to voice a government position we are going to do that if people. are. bellew. framework within which we can negotiate. a satisfactory solution for the nation this is going to be. i would of constitution of the laws of the nation. what the government would like. to.

help us find the right people with whom we can discuss. what i put on this minister on the right people. here at beheading them burning a villages and summary executions this is not a situation that is good for the people cameron i'm not hearing right now how are you going to deal with this you want to pick the right place. they don't. believe they are terrorists will is the ratios that we've come a ruined. pretty good they are crime against people what are you willing to. kill so to a group. of groups when certain information is brought to. a

. complete. investigation ok i hear you minister is released please stay with us because we're rapidly running out of time edwin said he's not a terrorist he says he's a restorationist. of have the means to continue to fail to. restore a chemise remember that these two countries came in to court shows agreement to form a union which was not completed this is where the problem is we cannot be talking about the symptom of the problems when the problem hasn't been address want to we go back to the beginning and corette the mistakes of nineteen sixty whereby a united nation failed to fulfill its obligations. because and six b. when we attained sovereign state and got them and got to be a sovereign independent country and engage into a confederation with cameron which was then destroyed by he just to rule we are

not going to solve this problem i hate out here and here so this is our community and they also want to be part of the conversation or look at that what's interesting is you're you're hearing this back and forth you heard what the minister said and of course hearing what i've been said this is a tuba who says extrajudicial killings burning down entire villages shooting unarmed civilians and forced disappearances and the southwest and the northwest regions must be investigated we urge for a commission of inquiry to fully investigate these crimes of course amnesty is not that kind of commission what won't the conduct that kind of commission but you did do an investigation talk to us about your access. yes first of all let me well come statement after minister regarding they need for. holding accountable those who have. been treated crimes in the north and south west this is you know it's a welcome in news but at the same time let me be

a little bit skeptical because unfortunately what we have seen income ruin is a long track record of abusive conduct by the security forces and as well as a entrenched culture of impunity so far since we have started our research work and come and gone very little investigations have been opened on the cases that we have to commend it and talk about hundreds of cases and forced disappearances systematic torture in the tension facilities arbitrary arrests and in the case of the context of young of the crisis we have also documented burning of entire villages in the tents also to the use of satellite imagery which showed for example like the complete destruction of a couple of village in that west regions and we have spoken with victims and i witness and their feminist who told us about their dramatic stories when they fled those villages when army came to carry out its operations

so i think it's important to. address at the burning issues and indeed to. address impunity which has been one of the root causes of this crisis and it's all the if you willing more writings and contributing to more crimes in our you made recommendations at the end of this investigation that the violence and cower in violence on both sides here we have the minister on the line right now one of the recommendation because he wasn't very impressed with this report at all. yes . madam please you have a many statements made by many people against the government if you do not give me enough time to answer i will. have to make it clear my country the nation is victim of aggression. they are the one who took. against

the institution. the one who perpetrated. the most crime by preventing people. from going to school. when you were speaking i didn't tell you anything.