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so they kept their cool and you know there's every indication that they're keeping their cool under water so it's a wonderful wonderful story we're now getting confirmed reports that six boys have been rescued and what's quite astonishing is that we had expected the first boy to start appearing in about an hour's time but this shows that this rescue operation is way ahead of schedule what do you think the reason is for this decreased rescue time. i think they were allowing for contingencies to start with the third it takes a long time to set it to bring the they obviously they've been setting up for a week the most important factor to start with was to find a way through import a line through to get in there originally they were fighting against very severe water currents so to get in through water currents coming towards them was clearly
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pretty difficult once they got through once they laid a law in or in this case a road they could then pull themselves through and find their way through of course coming out and they have the current on their site so they will come i much more quickly but that has its own dangers that they will then have to be under control and they will have to control the the children that they are bringing out but they you know they have contingencies for setting things up getting the children comfortable in the war and getting it ready in the naval lives mixed in there and we all fingers crossed and seoul that they would probably be in this sort of time scale i wasn't expecting as many as six and it hasn't been confirmed yet but that that will be very very good indeed if they've got as many as in this town so it's possible there may be a lag because the will be really recuperating the situation and there's
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a limited number of dogs and i repeat kate all of us who are able to do this and will be able to support this operation and clearly they can't just keep going in and i in and i in and i so i would expect there probably to be a delay well they reston cooper a the. get ready to go back in and get the rest so it could be a while but i don't know i'm not that much in touch with what's go. but i'm guessing but i suspect there could be a delay before we get all thirteen of the by ok we sell certainly wait and see what happens we're following the story closely we thank you very much as you have us for us speaking to us from hall in the u.k. thank you dori thank you. zero meteorologist stuff coulter is here to talk more about the weather conditions how it may impact the rescue operation and the concern stuff was the cave was flooded because of the rains because it's monsoon season
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what is the forecast over the next couple of hours let's start there as that rescue operation is underway there's always the risk put it like this in the month you're expecting three hundred millimeters of rain so if you break that down per day it's about a ten minute meeting the day but we haven't had ten minute meetings yesterday the day before the day before that so now we've got all that stored up has to come at some point during the month we just have to see average but it's expected to come in the month so maybe tomorrow maybe the day after we might get a huge downpour the major flooding so we know the flood level is low at the moment we go to work now while the weather is with us and we don't know what the weather is against and that is exactly what seems to be going on during the rescue operation i know you've been covering this story quite closely how much has the fear of the weather in the monsoon hampered or helped rescue going on right now it's probably given it a kick to go fast that's probably what it's done because although we're not
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expecting to wrench will rain tomorrow or the day after wednesday and thursday are looking more dodgy so if you need time to get the chills are now what kind of rain are we talking about when there is that heavy very heavy rain across that region a maybe for exactly where the caves are but it could fall a little bit further downstream upstream in which case it will still enter the cave complex and it could cause flooding even though where the rescuers are actually based might not see any new water coming out this guy might still get flooding in the caves themselves ok thank you for. the u.s. national cave rescue commission coordinator here's what he told us earlier. for the team themselves of course there's the risk that is as they're bringing the boys out there can be something that goes wrong in one of the dives and either one of the boys panics or has some type of medical emergency such as vomiting into the regulator mask which is the can be deadly and if they panic they can potentially
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also take the rescuer with them so from a team standpoint that's one of the biggest dangers they face from the boy standpoint of course those are also the same dangers the other fact that they that we have to look at is that they had nine days of starvation so they're still fairly weak they it takes a long time to recover from the nine days of starvation they had and they have not simply had that time to recover the situation did not allow them and their time to become fully strong and and i'm hoping that they have drilled well enough that there are any problems but it is it's still a huge risk these boys had nine days living on adrenaline and high cortisol levels their metabolic processes are already completely out of whack. the divers themselves have built a level of trust with the boys and that's part of the psychology of getting them
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out is having that level of trust and they having them there most of the places the diver can have they can touch and be right next to them there are those few spots where they cannot be side by side but again they can they can communicate with by the fact that they're just right close there let's now bring in dr andrea denny see he's a senior lecturer in psychiatry and head of the stress and development lab at king's college london thanks very much for speaking to us as you see this rescue unfold and now we're hearing that six of the boys have in fact been rescued taken to the field hospital for us and then on to another hospital what kind of psychological state do you expect those boys to be in. you know that's wonderful news in terms of what we should expect you know i would expect most of the children to present some emotional symptoms. several of them will be agitated and they may be
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irritable they may be also acting out in terms of trying to deal with their emotions for example. after the first few weeks i would expect most of these children to recover from these initial emotional centers which are absolutely normal and they're not psychiatric diagnosis such. after about a month i would expect still perhaps ten to twenty percent of them to develop more enduring types of mental health problems that become then diagnosable mental health problems the kind of mental health problems that may develop is quite brode might be depression anxiety disorder post-traumatic stress disorder and in the older one particularly perhaps substance abuse or conduct problems. so do you expect these boys then to have long term effects. yeah i would expect
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some of them to so most of them will have short term psychological effects from this or deal and i would expect about ten to twenty percent of them to also develop long term effects we should not forget that in addition to mental health problems of course as you were discussing just earlier on there will be also physical health consequences related to high levels of distress as well as money attrition and environmental challenges so what sort of support needs to be given to those boys right away as they are rescued from the caves. i think right away is important first of all to make sure that they are physically healthy and through contact with their families and professional is important that the realize that they are no outside the danger zone so danger is over and therefore any perception of threat that they may have is just
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a psychological sequelae of this or do it is important that parents and therapists let them talk spontaneously about their emotions so that if children want to for example tearful or want to tell them about their experiences that should be welcomed by the parents and therapists although they should not the children to impose on the children questions on their experiences is important that parents help their children with the facts so they find the right words to communicate clearly using simple terms with them is also important to in some ways cling baik life so that parents for example can support their children engaging in routines with them and just go back to normal functioning that they have before this ordeal and it's also important to imagine parents will be
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also we also have been very distressed so it's also important that to help their children parents also look after themselves all right we thank you dr andrea then i said for speaking to us from london. charlotte dallas looks more closely at the enormous challenges of getting the rest of the boys out. the tome one cave is in northern thailand in the chiang rai province near the border with me and ma and laos it is one of the longest caves in the country stretching ten kilometers through the door mounts range the boys are stuck just past a kevan known as party of beach now looking inside the mountain one point five kilometers from the main entrance navy seal team to set up a base in a cabin and no one is trying to three three kilometers in a semi in junction it forks off to an exit but that's flooded the cave widens to large cabins and narrows to passages so small that rescue is need to crew to get
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through the passageway climbs and drops which means when it rains water builds up in these steps for kilometers then is passing a beach the boys are about four hundred metres after the spot and eight hundred to a thousand meters below the surface to get the boys out through the flooded patches rescuers have attached a guideline and daughters emergency oxygen tanks every twenty five to fifty metres the plan is that as they swim one navy diver will be beside them another one behind keep in mind some ways don't know how to swim there are strong currents and the water is dark and muddy they're being given with suits boots helmets and a scuba mask but no tank the proposal being they'll get all from the dive buddy supply now take at least five hours to get each boy out so i know it may take a couple of days to complete the risk you let's get an update from scott heiler he's joining us from china are i we are getting reports that now six boys have been
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rescued scott what are you hearing what can you confirm. yeah that's what we're hearing as well and what's very interesting is we've been able to speak a couple of times communicate with a father who is at the mouth of the cave as these boys are being brought out and you know obviously he's he's very delighted that they're coming out and they're coming out safe but what he's a bit frustrated about it sounds as though they don't really know the parents are really being married up with the boys as they come out if you will that is because and it's understandable they need to be checked out medically straight away where we do know as is the he said that he saw the boys almost being wrapped up immediately in a big blanket i'm assuming one of those kind of like silver mylar blankets to keep the heat in from these boys you know they've been inside very different conditions from from from the experience that they're getting right now as they walk out of the cave you know very dark damp chilly at times cave and now they're coming out of the real world so they're being bundled up we know that you know there's
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a field hospital right there on site they're being looked at straight away by a doctor there and then determining on the severity of their condition the other helicoptered out the numbers are kind of varying now who've gone by helicopter and who's gone by ambulance to a hospital the most sophisticated hostel in the area chiang rye prevents all city capital which is about sixty kilometers away so that's where they're getting the full checkup we know that they'd already gotten thirteen beds ready and have been ready for the last day or so so as soon as they land there or drive there straight in there and then they're going to see specialist right away so you know that the families are still waiting at the at the mouth of the cave the waiting for more boys to come out and the coach so right now a lot of anxious families waiting to see waiting to get that good news that some of already gotten there will be getting over the next couple hours or so a couple of hours i should say or so one thing to know you know as we've been talking about the studying the process went
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a little bit faster than officials said it would they said you know early today it started at ten o'clock in the morning you know it's a. after eight o'clock now they said it was not going we were going to see the first boys until nine pm so it's not it's that would be thirty five minutes away from now so obviously it's going quicker than they anticipated quicker than they told us we expect to hear from them in about thirty five minutes so we can confirm all these numbers you know we've the numbers have been bouncing around in the you know the conditions of the boys no one's really gotten a really good idea of how injured they are or how healthy they are so hopefully that will be clarified some of those details to be clarified in the next hour or so they said it was going to be nine pm local that's thirty five minutes from now we haven't gotten any indication of if it's actually going to happen so because it's moving much faster than expected scott is the expectation that the rest of the group will be out today or in the next couple of hours the remaining boys as well as their coach and what about the diver as themselves what is the process that they
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are using what is the method they are using to get these boys out and so quickly. yeah well absolutely because the they came out quicker than expected of the families are up at the at the cave mouth and we're hearing another helicopter right now this is one that's going to be going right over our head there to help pads here side to get to your question daddy but i want to bring that up because there are two hell of pads here one is about a kilometer this way and one's just over a kilometer that way and this is one that we haven't seen a helicopter go from earlier we saw one from here that was a military helicopter largest indoor ski helicopter this one i believe this is where the police helicopters were i believe this is a smaller one more like your kind of traditional method back helicopter that's the one that appears to have just flown overhead you know so maybe that's one going to the hospital is going in the right direction so that could be another boy or two on their way to the hospital in chiang rai city. going back to the process
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particularly with the divers let's leave it let's explain that a little bit each boy had to has two divers assigned to him one in the front one lead one behind two diver buddies there are several pod parts in this process in this convoluted cave diving scenario two spots in particular where they wouldn't really necessarily be able to be side by side the entire time because it's very very narrow where someone has no experience with diving that can be very very frightening obviously so a big factor going into this speaking to some cave diving experts saying is panic and so obviously they got to a point with the boys who have come out or in the process of making their way out we don't know that they feel comfortable enough with this diving buddy system that they are going to be able to come out so that is a very difficult process now going to the divers as you asked you know yes this is arduous for the boys dangerous for the boys risky for the boat risky for the boys it is for the divers too we saw just how risky it was
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a former navy seal diver came back out of retirement to help in this rescue. since he died last friday. we don't know exactly the details but he died from lack of oxygen he passed out in the water was brought to one of these caverns try it would be his buddies try to revive him it didn't work so that underlines how dangerous this is for the divers boys have a long way out the divers have to do it two ways you know it's a round trip for them so it's very difficult for them all right scott we'll leave it there for now we'll cross back to you a little later on thank you for that update from trying right so we are monitoring developments from thailand as you can see we'll bring you the breaking developments as they happen later in the news hour. for now at least sixty four people have died and dozens of others are missing following floods and landslides in japan the military has now been brought in to help after heavy rains pummeled cities across western japan for several days
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millions of people have been ordered to evacuate their homes ethiopia's prime minister ahmed is in neighboring eritrea for a historic summit it's the first such visit by any ethiopian leader in more than two decades he was greeted by eritrean president say s f where at the airport ahead of a summit between the two regional rivals ethiopia and eritrea fought a costly war between one thousand nine hundred ninety eight and two thousand over a disputed border there have been signs of improving relations and recent months after the prime minister abbott agreed to accept the terms of a peace deal that ended that conflict halleluiah luli is the program director of a mani africa he thinks the shared history of the two countries are more important than the differences. this is just peace between two countries to ordinary countries for two or three neighbors if you can your three you have video of each tree shared culture shared religion and shared to be in trouble
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so if your peers in your furious foreign policy and regional engagement has been significantly being shipped by this water and this film it does followed for eighteen years and the two countries acknowledges that you know the film at the north water no we know peace policy has significantly damaged their. economies the regional security and the political situation in the two countries and the two countries have huge potential for we can all make cultural and political cooperation that will have a great impact for there seems to cutesy and integration of the horn of africa in the because eastern africa south sudan's warring parties have agreed to another power sharing deal under which the rebel leader react my char will be reinstated as vice president the announcement was made by the foreign minister of neighboring sudan regional leaders have been mediating peace talks in uganda to end south
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sudan's civil war a similar deal was signed in twenty fifteen but it fell apart a year later conflict has killed tens of thousands of people its displaced million since twenty thirty. it's agreed in principle. of. his actions he said but here we will work. together with his brother the three which are for the sake of peace and stability of south sudan it's agreed that we will be harboring. the vice presidential because the company president will continue. when he virtually empty doctrine which i would assume the position of first vice president for tens of thousands of south sudanese children have been separated from their families some have been reunited but in a country with poor going to zation facilities tracing the families of many others is challenging have a morgan reports from juba it's a moment of joy but also nervousness for eleven year old as she packs her clothes
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she's about to fly thousands of miles to see her parents and she hasn't seen for more than four years since just before the start of south sudan civil war. my aunt took me to stay with her for a while and then the war happened my parents thought i was still with my aunt but i was taken to an orphanage i hadn't seen my family in a very long time. is one of thousands of children who were separated from their families the war started in twenty fifteen when president salva kiir accused his former vice president riek machar of attempting a coup since then many children have arrived unaccompanied at refugee camps after fleeing their homes were told was in the capital juba when fighting started in his hometown find his children were displaced and it was nearly five years before he saw them again made kong when one of my backers had come to juba for treatment with the children's mother the war happened and i couldn't contact my children you know
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i even got sick and lost weight because i was worried about them sometimes thinking that they were dead and then. tens of thousands of people have been killed in the war and a third of that told me in population displaced sixty percent of them children aid organizations say more than seventeen thousand children have been separated from their families since the start of the war and with fighting continuing and more families displaced it's likely even if some children are being reunited with their families even more are being separated the process of tracing families and getting them back together is no easy task some children are very young and you need to have a lot of. trained staff you know to get information from children and the wide search area the transportation of children because no routes and it's only one flight security's a very challenging thing sometimes you know we identify families and we know where the parents are and the children in this kind of situation really storing the links between family and the child because we cannot reunify the child due to some of the
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security situations and security situation that's kept war from seeing his children for years and which is my hopes will not you know heard your fertility for a long awaited reunion with her family people morgan all just juba. nine members of tennessee as national guard have been killed in an attack in near the border with algeria grenades were thrown at two cars in what local media are calling an ambush in recent years security forces in the region have been targeted by several armed groups including one affiliated with al qaida this syrian military and a rebel group in the southern province of that are accusing each other breaching a cease fire deal that was only agreed forty eight hours ago opposition activists say at least four people have been killed in airstrikes targeting areas to the east of that our city russian brokered deal saw the rebels agree to hand over heavy weapons in exchange for security guarantees and safe passage to other areas
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government troops took control of a border crossing with jordan and promised to leave four villages burnitz threat has more from. we understand that one rebel group is holding out in an area to the north of crossing the crossing is a very strategic crossing for the syrian regime it links jordan to syria and through to the ports of beirut in lebanon in the syrian regime wants to get this crossing open again one group in america the north of the crossing says that the russians in the syrians are not holding to that part of the cease fire deal on the cease fire deal was essentially that the rebel groups opposition groups would how the over that heavy weapons they would be given safe passage to opposition groups held areas in the north of syria that the russians would oversee security along the border areas that particular aspect very important because people. were concerned should syrian forces without russian supervision might take retaliatory steps against people living but anyway what this accusing the syrians and the russians of
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not regarding the ceasefire agreement it's not clear what part of the cream and. not respecting or being accused of not respecting but that has prompted an outbreak of fighting as strikes we understand shelling on the ground. more than seven hundred thousand have fled man march into neighboring bangladesh since a government crackdown began in august last year it's become one of the world's fastest growing refugee emergencies but many were home just say they've been facing injustice for decades muhammad met one family in a camp in cox's bazaar. she's the head of four generations of family and the bearer of forty years of suffering. a heart or a hinge a refugee in her ninety's has fled persecution in me and more three separate times in her life first in one thousand nine hundred seventy eight then one nine hundred ninety one and finally in two thousand and seventy five. she speaks softly and
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slowly telling me that while age may have left her unable to remember everything she'll never forget the constant horrors her family suffered at the hands of security forces in me and more over the years. in the war they beat as they kidnapped as they detained does google and her family span almost a century in age bonded through blood and displacement they now all live in a single hut located in the world's largest refugee kenya. her son only ahmed first fled rackrent state and came to bangladesh as a teenager he recounts just how awful the crackdown by security forces was in two thousand and seventeen i didn't know at that out of if we couldn't have made our way here we would have been killed like stray dogs muhammad are you is goals graham son in law he says he'll always be haunted by what he seen back home. in line in
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florida you know a little bit no one could even ask questions about locals disappearances even a brother didn't have the right to ask about his missing brother you understand we had no clue who was disappeared into way we just had to remain silent about it. here the signs of trauma are everywhere and fear is clearly etched on faces in many ways what's happening to this particular extended family really mirrors what's happened to so many other rohinton who face decades of repression and abuse their hinges aren't just the world's largest group of stateless people they're also among the world's most persecuted minorities. more than anything muhammad i you've once his children to be able to experience peace and to get justice he says there's only one way that can happen atrocities that are being committed against a middle women should be heard by the international criminal court so that we get justice and if it's not satisfied. satisfaction is not
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a sentiment ghoul is familiar with for her pain has been a constant and time continues to be as cruel as life has been hard. at the good to prolong camp in cox's bazaar on the dish well i earlier spoke to yang she's the un special rapporteur on the situation of human rights in myanmar and she's calling for the road to be officially recognized as refugees. thank you for having me on your program i did complete my ten days visit in bangladesh spent five days in cox's desire this is my third time visiting constitutes caucus with what stood out to me the most is that the violence and the atrocities are still continuing. i spoken to several families that have just crossed over and they are telling me that things are not getting better there is more pressure
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to accept the cards and there's also been burning and killing and continuation of atrocities the other thing i stood out to me was i did it in no man's land where just last week a little boy of eleven years old was shot point blank almost point blank because there was only one shot fired by the b.g.p. from them a side and the boy was playing in the fields and it was broad daylight and he was shot in the grind and i visited him in the hospital too and he was able to locate the area where he was shot i think this is very serious that that situations are still continuing and allow just couldn't there discussing repatriation it is clear that the media must condemn the conditions are not adequate they're not even conducive or even anywhere near repatriation and these are the two points that
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really stood out to me this visit so why do you think that you are continued to be denied access to me and mark. because i think i'm getting very close because the narrative that the military is using is now taken over and being supported by this is really in government. and finally let me just ask you this you were calling for him just to be officially recognised as refugees and we know that some of the refugees themselves are demanding that they be represented in some of these calls and some of these agreements made by the un with bangladesh as well as i mean more how much say today actually have in determining their fate at this point. i'm afraid the refugees have not had any contact any part any participation in any discussions about relocation or repatriation. and also the current recent imo you between un
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d.p. among you n.d.p. u.n.h.c.r. and the government i think it is important to recognise them as refugees because they irish. and they need to be recognised as refugees here because they are not displaced persons and they're not recognized as citizens and me and my knowledge if you say they're from nationals of myanmar every day they're not even recognised there and how can you frame it and say that these are citizens of myanmar nationals of myanmar currently. in the future you can say this but currently i don't think it's. the right way of expressing who they are right yankee lee we thank you very much for speaking to us from doctor. now returning to the breaking news out of thailand where we're getting reports of six
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boys trapped in caves have now been brought to the surface as a daring rescue operation seemingly happens much faster than first expected they have been taken to a field hospital near the cave in old twelve boys and their football coach need to be brought out through twisted narrow and jagged passageways they've been stuck for more than two weeks scott heiler joining us from chiang rai what are you hearing about those that have been rescued scott and what will happen to those that are still inside the cave where we know that those who have been rescued you know there's you said there's a field hospital right outside the cave entrance where they went into weeks and one day ago they were treated there immediately well they're met by medical personnel the moment they walk out and actually remember the medical personnel deeper in the cave to there's a chamber it's kind of been set up as a triage center inside the cave medical staff of looked at them there then they've
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made this three kilometer walk the dry part the dry section of the cave and then the met by more medical professionals as they come out and then there we've been told by someone who's on the scene that they're wrapped up straight away in a blanket we now know that there's you know the numbers have been all over the place you know we're seeing six now because what it sounds like for are definitely out seen medical professionals and been there you know shipped off to the hospital in nearby chiang rai central the province capital here by helicopter or by images and these two others we're hearing are just just about to exit the gate that's what one source is telling us you know they're kind of differing numbers going back and forth quite honestly every ten minutes we're going to get clarity on that in just about the next fifteen plus minutes the used to be the governor of chiang mai province now he's the head of the rescue mission he is going to give a press conference and hopefully we're going to get.

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