that's the law. for decades many states have viewed life sentences to be a just punishment for juveniles who participate in murder but that is starting to change. deborah labelle is an ann arbor based attorney leading the fight to reform juvenile sentencing laws in michigan. this is one of the most deeply flawed parts of our judicial legal system what to do with children we have turned away from the juvenile court system and the concept of rehabilitation of children for no good reason. there has been a series of decisions by the u.s. supreme court to understand how children must be treated and punished differently than adults your argument first this morning and nine six four six million versus alabama. in two thousand and twelve in the case of miller versus alabama the court said that mandatory life without parole sentences for

children is simply wrong and they said it would be the rare child. that would ever be sentenced to life without parole because we can't predict at the front ten that a child can't be redeemed just weeks after the supreme court's decision in miller michigan had its first chance to interpret the new law and that's our second story the case revolves around where it was only sixteen when he. shot to death a pizza delivery man in flint. the city which consistently ranks as one of the most dangerous in the country. david is the district attorney who prosecuted john with where i first got elected i never anticipated that i would have perhaps the most difficult district attorney job in america we've had record homicide rates and per capita. annually in the top three of the most violent cities in america. this was one of the most heinous cases.

total. killing. david quinn was the prosecutor on call the night that the pizza delivery man michael nettles was murdered he prosecuted the case against john wick where david we always felt that this was premeditated we always looked at the evidence and felt that this was a setup. correct. during that thirty minutes waiting for the piece to be delivered bay sat there in platen skiing and planned on what they were going to do. they were pretty much lying in wait when mr nettles arrived. he was pretty much. they told me give up the money and give up to pete. and mr nettles didn't put up any resistance and did the entire bag and walked away . or he was sat in the back from the porch. going back to his

vehicle and from his vehicle pulling out of the drive he was shot in the atack. his cousin was in the vehicle with him which is going on a lot of law to get to the store to get something for want to show it. when i want. to get it down where you. know what the problem. with. that is going to be. numerous bit shell casings in the driveway was blood all over the car missed a notice expired right there at the scene horrific horrific crimes. he was armed he was working for three dollars an hour. plus tips may

fortune and they shot him for no reason. prosecutors charged the teens with first degree murder and sought the maximum adult sentence. however under the recent supreme court's miller ruling the judge now had a choice life without parole was no longer mandatory in fact the supreme court said life without parole for juvenile should be quote uncommon but despite the new law join with we're still receive the maximum penalty of life without the possibility of parole he didn't adult crime he's got to face an adult son. i've come to flint to meet jodi hemingway joins attorney to find out more about what happened the night michael nettles was murdered influence most dangerous neighborhood merril hood. this is the area where do one grew up you can see

there's a lot of abandoned house buyers i went no as. i wouldn't be here after dark. and why i had to be here every day of his life he didn't have a choice. this is the house where when the call was made to the pizza delivery place every vehicle would have pulled into the driveway here and this or not most probably came up to the porch. this area. michael nettles arrived after dark to an empty house the teens approached him from the back yard so they could ambush him several of the boys including joy on carry guns. mr not on state the pizza and just backed away he did what he would you know like they asked him the other co-defendants to shot him eight times at that point i think to one knew that was going to happen. at

trial there was conflicting testimony about who fired the shots that killed michael nettles what was not disputed was the fact that you one carried and fired a twenty two caliber rifle and that the fatal shots were not fired from his gun olive the shells that were recovered from the vehicle and from the body were consistent with a forty caliber weapon which can't be confused with a twenty two even though there was sufficient evidence to prove that you ones bullets didn't kill mr nettles he was the only one of the teens that later confessed to his involvement in the crime the rest of his coconspirators either pled down to lesser charges or were acquitted due to a lack of evidence and was the only teen convicted of first degree felony murder. i do and it's jodi having me i know i am marlon's or are you.

out how old are you actually now ninety eight and how long have you been there. four years. when did you start hanging out with the with your friends who ended up doing that crime with. a. sense of. right. anyway. do you ever think about. if you could talk to his family what would you what would you tell them. very right. when i met with john i saw

a young man who had shiri immature short sighted insight and his involvement with this crime dr karen noel clarke is the psychologist who evaluated you on and testified at his sentencing hearing she won and many adolescent criminals tend to him and very little appreciation for long term consequences they are much more driven by immediate gratification then the ultimate cost to their lives the lines of their families to the lives of the victims and they are fieri fieri caught up in the moment the u.s. supreme court's miller ruling focused heavily on the developmental differences between adolescents and adults citing recent advances in neuroscience that suggest adolescent brains are not yet fully developed when it comes to impulse control planning ahead and risk avoidance adolescents and young anally among and it should not be denied the best of their lives for actions that were taken at that period of

fear nice perhaps he wasn't fully developed in his prey as some of the experts may say however i just don't understand anybody who could be so insensitive to the life of another human being to me that is such a heinous and grievous of facts that you have to go away for a very long time. eighteen years ago salomon tabo was sentenced to life without parole for his role in the murder of sixty one year old rodney cork a convenience store clerk in west grand rapids sallis advocates say that he is mature. third from who he was at sixteen. now thirty four he has turned his life around in prison studying to be an ordained minister and even marrying his childhood sweetheart laura laura has stood by his side since the day he was arrested and hopes that the supreme court's miller ruling can someday lead to

a chance of parole for her husband. to better understand solace troubled past have come to his old school to meet laura and one of his former teachers john a d. all right so these are yearbook photos from when we were in middle school together. that's his seventh grade picture. and you know back then yeah we went to school together from first grade through eighth grade i watched him as a little boy just you know being fine and energetic and full of life and i just kind of watched him change from happy person to someone who is more angry in this day in coal or do you want people to know i'll. own i know that just knowing him most of my life the core of him is very sensitive and gentle and kind you know it is hard what do you you know tell somebody that you know he's in there like he did and we're fully honest about his skill and his participation and i think that again shows the core of his heart that he's willing to be that honest

how do you feel about having taught him and seeing the path he went down as a shocking to you that he went down this road well one of the things that i have learned is that a lot of the students go through a period where they are really trying to find out who they are and what they believe i know salo wanted to please he wanted to be accepted and because of some of the difficulties at home i think he really long to be loved. i remember he was telling me the story about his parents divorced when it really affected salo there's a hill behind our school and he went up to that hill and he said he just sobbed and sobbed and sobbed and when he was done crying he felt this anger developing any came down the hill and student. being a little boy who was broken he decided to be a tough kid that was mad and angry. the fact that he did this. and there's a way of you. sometimes it's really happy. to help take somebody's life and therefore he owes

a debt to society. and he try really hard to be very considerate towards the victim's family members because these crimes are very serious and some of them are extremely heinous. i would hate to have somebody do that to my family member myself . our family was period with these kids i mean absolutely enraged they even asked for them many of these a shadow stephanie mitchell was only fourteen when her great uncle rod the core was murdered my uncle rod was very caring he would do anything for anybody and was often remember him laughing and. when he entered a room you knew it and everyone enjoyed having him around. were my grandma was watching the news and she you know she seen it and. she knew it was him because his loafers. on the starter and all you could see was this.

one that's how our family found out about it. during the trial two of these boys they were just so heartless about it they would turn back and just laugh at our family. i mean are you kidding me i feel anybody's family would want to see justice be served then we did. at the time of sentencing judge dennis kalinda had two choices send sello as a juvenile which meant release from prison in five years at. twenty one were sentenced him as an adult but at the time it mandatory life in prison without the possibility of parole. lawyer larry fail and pleaded with the court to give salah the juvenile sentence but judge kalinda chose the adult life sentence.

today the two men have agreed to meet me at a local diner to discuss the case for the first time in fifteen years wasn't montel though the only juvenile that you for the way for life you know i must admit i don't remember how many fortunately it wasn't a lot and you guys i guess had a little bit of a different view on whether or not he should have been sentenced as a juvenile and you and you talk about that issue well i i i about the just sentence was. the juvenile the judge had a differing opinion that stopping to this day it was. the wrong decision. i won't say that i disagreed with larry as to what to just the question is what was the legally required sentence i still think that for that crime five years was not enough you had a choice and you can like the choice and so you took the choice that in life it was an easy way out. for

a judge it's the easy way out. and i feel that. there was nothing easy about it i do think it's a valid point but five years is a little light for her dad sentence would never have stood for a court of appeals and supreme court would have changed it and we'd be right here and you'd be asking me exactly the same questions how do you know what the court of appeals is going to say or if the supreme court's going to say you know as well as i our courts get great deference to the trout. under your theory then no juvenile whatever when. it's good i can think of i can't think of any scenario and any juvenile under that system at that time. that whatever way proves the flaw in the law that regard your right when you think would have been a sentence if the option to life with paul or life without parole for. that i would have said. life i don't like the idea at sentencing that we predict

for ever what somebody is going to be like for decades judges like dennis callender have grappled with michigan's mandatory life without parole sentencing laws for juveniles convicted of murder in two thousand and twelve in the case of miller versus alabama the u.s. supreme court banned mandatory life without parole sentences for juveniles. but the court did not specify whether the new law should be applied retroactively to cases like sal as that question was left to the states. michigan now finds itself in a heated political battle over what to do with the three hundred sixty three juveniles already serving mandatory life sentences in its prisons. with over forty thousand people killed under his rule it took twenty five years to bring him to a court of law but why assume long was such a brutal dictator considered an ally of the west reporting to the congress that

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or here in michigan we are looking at a very important issue in the criminal justice system namely should juvenile offenders commit adult. like murder be charged as adults or be treated. in twenty nine states including michigan the mandatory sentence for murder is life without the possibility of parole even for juveniles even as young as

thirteen in two thousand and twelve in the case of miller versus alabama the u.s. supreme court banned mandatory life without parole sentences for juveniles but the court did not specify whether the new law should be applied retroactively that question was left to the states. michigan now finds itself in a heated political battle over what to do with the three hundred sixty three juveniles already serving mandatory life sentences in its prisons. i believe the supreme court made the. right decision recognizing that you should have a blanket policy cross the board when you're talking about juveniles if it was cruel and unusual to have a blanket policy on juvenile life sentences why doesn't that pertain to everyone who was sentenced prior to miller versus alabama. republican representative joe heydemann has sponsored a set of bills that would mandate new hearings for all juveniles who receive mandatory life sentences prior to the supreme court's miller ruling.

retroactivity was important to me not freedom not a community sentence not anything that would say that they're definitely coming out but in the spirit of miller at least ever recognition that these three hundred sixty three people in prison deserve a second look. good morning the committee on criminal justice will come to order in august of two thousand and thirteen the michigan state legislature held a hearing on the issue of retroactivity many victims' family members came out to voice their opposition to the proposed legislation. this guy was killed by sixteen and a half year old teen who took his gun put it to the side of his head pull the trigger they want to bring their loved ones home really cool in future cases. i think i can somewhat understand going back releasing these people who have already been sentenced and have those to relive that i just can't understand from my family it has been twenty three years twenty three years of being constantly reminded or

living the nightmare of what happened to my brother not all of the victims' families oppose the idea of giving a second chance to these juvenile lifers stephanie mitchell grandees of rodney cork spoke in support of retroactivity my deepest condolences to all the families out here there are some that that these people don't need to be released but there are some that do in certain circumstances the prisoner does deserve a second chance in two thousand and eight salary to run the corp family asking for their forgiveness he received no reply three years later after a local newspaper published a feature story about his life an answer finally came. many missteps any iraqi court scrutiny. after the grand rapids press published your article there was something you said that touched me if i had to make a choice i would choose forgiveness from the victims' family over getting out of prison that is why i would like to start this letter by saying we forgive you.

after writing to sallow in prison stephanie connected with sal as wife laura and this teacher. six months ago stephanie visited sallow in prison for the first time . i asked him some pretty hard questions i think for him to answer how will be one of the hardest things for me to hear was did he see my uncle. before that day. and he did he buy a pack of gum from him earlier that day and he could have told me no i never seen. calling my mom and how sorry i am in a while i don't ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha still have

a hard time how. i feel prison has helped alone and so many ways he grew and he changed a lot but i think part of that growth and change was the fact that he was seeing a future and. possibly never coming home i definitely think a middle ground sentence would be sufficient for him but i don't think it's would have been enough for who he was it. was or a turning point in prison where it all started to make sense and you decided you were going to turn your life around to change to who i am today definitely wasn't like an instantaneous thing but it was definitely a process. here as i stand here they have been by no means very enjoyable here but it's been totally necessary to bring me to the point where i am today. salo is the real thing he is a role model in that prison he is truly what we want our corrections department to

produce is an example of why the system needs to be changed is that he's an example of why miller says alabama happened. the michigan state legislature eventually passed a bill ending mandatory life sentences for juveniles but did not vote on retroactivity leaving that issue unresolved until the michigan supreme court makes the ultimate decision. i'm disappointed we were right back to the old stereotype of we need to punish people and that punishment is an eye for an eye. flint michigan consistently ranks as one of the most dangerous cities in america it is here that thirty three year old pizza delivery man michael nettles was robbed and shot to death by a group of teenagers. during the ensuing trials there was conflicting testimony as

to which one of the juvenile offenders actually shot and killed mr nettles as he tried to escape but only one of the defendants john wick where was ever found guilty of felony murder for the past four years one thousand year old with where has sat in prison sentence there for the rest of his natural life. what was it like a no growing up in. flint radicals enjoy about bruno same level because anything like that have a surviving. i just needed a have a feeling. this way did you ever feel scared or threatened. by me that a lot of times i get the right. idea will be chosen to drag out a grudge where i go. tell me about your mom. k k. k k k.

twenty four on. a. new burke's has been working her job at the laundromat for almost nine years despite recent health problems including a broken arm she never misses a day. and for taking time off and donna counts so come to our would be a thing on a bank to these days her biggest concern is making enough money to support you one in prison right now he needs a care package so which i need the money together or not it is like eight august is essential but is why our. own person needs some i think it's a want to x. nobody not the. son has stood by joe one side from the time he was arrested four years ago for his participation in the murder of michael nettles.

and was only sixteen at the time and the police could not question him without her consent. to care. at a. higher. rating . and his interrogation method is part of the crime. and implicated the other teens. this confession all but guaranteed a conviction. and at trial a jury found one guilty on four counts including felony murder which carries a sentence of life in prison. because of the u.s.

supreme court's miller decision and it down just weeks before the trial life without parole was no longer automatic a parole bill sense was now possible joined had a right to a sentencing hearing to weigh all of the factors at play in his case it was the first miller hearing ever held michigan miller versus alabama through everybody in the prosecution world for a loop i realized we were going to have to prove to the judge that this young man deserves a sentence of life for all i was on the record the people the state of michigan versus to one and one with where case number one to the judge archie heyman would have to hear testimony from both sides were guarding joe one's culpability in this potential for rehabilitation the prosecuting attorney david quinn was adamant that joe one was a murderer and a threat to society and sought the maximum sentence of life without parole. jawans attorney joey hemingway argued that you won was not the actual shooter who killed mr nettles and his traumatic upbringing matched the mitigating circumstances laid

out by the supreme court therefore she argued he deserved a parole of full sentence my room was to develop a picture of who he was who he had been how certain external things in captive who he had become his mom seems to have tried very hard to keep her family to counseling but there was a two year span that she did not work because he'd been laid off and then i think he was home. beginning in first grade joy and attended seven different schools in eight years missing an average of fifty six school days a year his school history was fraught with field here he was virtually illiterate he always felt rejected by school and he got in a lot of fights in eighth grade. jawn was suspended for one hundred twenty days for hitting a school security guard after he was suspended from school it sounds as though he did virtually nothing and home there was structured more productive and he spent

his time on the street he started using marijuana and ecstasy and other drugs and if you don't have positive role models then that's a pretty huge hurdle for you to transcend the prosecution made its case by bringing up a serious offense from john's criminal past that this time if you propose exhibit number three admit it which is a copy of flint least complaint number zero seven four zero seven seven for. the carjacking incident. criminal activity back to a.z. eleven this was not something that he did not want to this is his everyday routine now yes he had a tough upbringing but he still had to have known right from wrong he had to have known that you don't aim a gun at the back of a massive man who has done nothing to you and the trigger. homicides.

are by to watch is not the person who killed michael madeline's to lack him up and throw away the key for his wrong is disproportionate to what he did and it's not constitutional after two days of testimony judge haman delivered his decision as to where in my opinion is capable of rehabilitation because of his youth and also because the reports seem to indicate that he has made some progress i would tend to believe that that factor weighs in favor of mr witt where but having said that i think the circumstances of this offense are grievous he was in the thick of it. and therefore he's just as responsible for the killing as the shooter is he is showing very aggressive violent behavior that fact always against mr what we think is family life has been. stable. i think it has put him in a position where he probably would be a threat to society that fact also weighs against mr white where so it is the decision of this court that only count one which is the felony murder sentence him

to life without the possibility of parole. and i do that with a very heavy it took a lot of thought to come to this conclusion but after reviewing everything and all the testimony that it is the right thing to do in this particular situation. the whole thing was turned on a tad into mitigating factors were used as a way to fake all of these obstacles to his rehabilitation existence so he probably can't be rehabilitated and the exit it's the opposite i don't see how the judge can say that to one who's too far i think that at sixteen it's a little too early to write him off for life michael joseph natalie he doesn't get a second chance. he's for george and don't get a second chance to have. all those arguments against life without parole. while i understand them they don't move me towards saying that this man or somebody in

a like position should get a laster shock. as the three hundred sixty four the juvenile sentenced to life without the possibility of parole in michigan a number that continues to grow despite the miller ruling miller says who among us can decide what child at the front end is irredeemable you cannot tell what's going to happen so then to have him serve the rest of his life in prison is deeply flawed interpretation of miller and also really impugn the integrity of our judicial system in march of two thousand and fourteen the sentence of life without parole for juveniles was challenged in the michigan supreme court the court was asked to determine if it is ever constitutional to lock up a child for the rest of his life for felony murder and. redouble teaching judges i think that are used to just sending these kids off and it's a new day and hopefully the nisshin supreme court will say you can't do this.

in march of two thousand and fourteen the debate over juvenile sentencing finally reached michigan's highest court. three cases heard here will determine how michigan moves forward when sentencing juvenile murderers. here you know as you just said just go to the supreme court decision over a very this is what is going to throw your attention. as you know this is. one of the cases being argued raises the question should life without parole ever be an appropriate sentence for juveniles convicted of felony murder exactly the crime both shallow month i'll go enjoy one with we are in prison for the development of the moment i suggested that where you have circumstances where the court has found no intent to kill felony murder aiding and abetting there needs to be a protection from these most extreme sentences punishes consequences of every test

i just don't see how you can categorically say that as family members are less for a more of these than a premeditated murder and not give life that for in this situation another case will answer the question left unresolved by the u.s. supreme court should the miller ruling be applied retroactively in other words should the three hundred sixty three juveniles already serving life without parole be given a new sentencing hearing and a second chance at freedom at least at the court in miller chose that's where it's very carefully measured it was make a mandatory life sentence unconstitutional not a life without parole there is no one currently sitting in the department of corrections in the state of michigan on a punishment american out of problems that's a key to keep you know what made it clear that the right of individuals sentencing has led to widespread mismatches between culpability and therefore inaccurate set. basically so we've got three hundred sixty three juvenile white versus right now sentenced under the old scheme who are serving an inaccurate sense of this point if the option of sentencing these young people to life without parole was taken away

it would be a very bad situation even if you can suggest that somebody might be rehabilitated you still have to first and foremost keep in mind the victims and the family of the victims any sentence less than life without parole could potentially retry matteis them hopefully air machine supreme court down to the right thing and recognize that we need to take vengeance out of the punishment of our children and we need to focus on me and our taishan surely we can rehabilitate and bring them back into society. in following the lives you know you can sometimes in the. laura montell though has spent the last three years creating a home for her and her husband salah should the michigan supreme court vote yes on retroactivity salame i finally get a parole hearing and a chance to come home hard in the us this is awful this is the room where you get

to choose some colors he tells this really pull in this feeling pull on the ceiling as a full purple which i try to talk him out of it and he was like i really really want it there although i don't get a if you are i'll let go of every ounce of control i want to have laura has known sallow for most of his life from his happy childhood through his troubled adolescence to the reform man he has become even though eighteen years ago he was sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole she has stood by him faithfully four years ago they were married in the ceremony held in prison. this is just a fraction of all the letters that they have and thirty billion of our relationship starting from you know when you're fifteen and sixteen. when history. really last three years. on.

the things that are holding the married of thing. here are the armory and children who are here her parents and my grandchildren you know are going there their biggest fear. come home. how we treat those who break our laws how we treat those in prison is really a reflection of how we are is a society and what does it say about us that we're willing to let people die in prison so without looking at them is it possible there's a child so damaged that they will never be able to come out i don't know no one can predict but we should have the concept that there's redemption and rehabilitation and we should structure a system that tries to get them there is soon as possible. you were involved in something that resulted in a death the group thought about it then as it wasn't an accident in

a fair and just world what do you think would have been an appropriate sentence. and it was. very you know. that i got out. ok ok . i think the system works i think the system worked in this case i think mr work where should and is sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole where things need to be fixed is before we ever get to the situation where when where has a gun in his hand we need to do a whole lot better job of educating our children of educating people not to have children if they're not in a position to raise them appropriately those are societal issues that we're really

not addressing that's where the system's broken criminal justice system works just fine. there are people out there was a wild boy he did something terrible you know why should he get a break and you can you explain. why people should think about giving people a break or a life without parole says the juveniles you know i feel that i would love to be free but if same time realizing the weight of what i've done my stance is one of of asking for mercy and asking through that recipe for a second chance. if the michigan stream court doesn't rule the miller case to be retroactive so i would have just some disappointment you know because i would love to feel to have that second chance i've grown so much that i do feel that i'm ready to be free again but it's the same time i definitely have peace with how god is using me here because the opportunity to serve others here. i would just

continue to try to make a difference if i spent the rest of my life here that's what my life will be. hello there it's mostly dry for most of us in australia at the moment we did have

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supplies scott haida has the latest from chiang rai after more than two weeks deep underground one by one the boys emerged and were taken away by ambulance . their ordeal finally came to an end when rescuers launched a daring effort to bring them out guiding them through a four kilometer labyrinth of treacherous tunnels and caves the head of the rescue mission described it as d. day and called the boys by the nickname of their football team when he confirmed the first extraction had been a success. you know i would like to inform everyone at home and all those who have been giving us support all along that after sixteen days today's the day we've been waiting for we are seeing the wild boar football team in the flesh now and i thought. the rescue mission took days of preparing and planning after the group was found alive by divers on monday crews have been pumping water out of the cave system resupplying the boys with food and oxygen and drilling to help open up their

escape route with. sunday's mission was described as better than expected and went quicker than planned as rescuers take the next ten to twenty hours to prepare for monday's mission heavy rain has started to fall and that's something that could complicate the next rescue eight boys in their twenty five year old football coach remain inside the cave experts say divers already face a dangerous mission to get them out for the team themselves of course there's the risk is as they're bringing the boys out there can be something that goes wrong in one of the dives and either one of the boys panics or has some type of medical emergency such as vomiting into the regulator mask which is it can be deadly and if they panic they can potentially also take the rescuer with them so from a team standpoint that's one of the biggest dangers they face before rescued boys are now recovering in

a local hospital for the nine others still trapped agonizing wait goes on it's got hotter al-jazeera chiang rai. well from the cave entrance authorities predicted an eleven hour. roundtrip to reach the boys and their coach some of it on the water but the first phase seems to have progressed more quickly than expected the football team is stuck four kilometers inside huddle together on a muddy bank to get out they have to travel through narrow dark passages sometimes no more than just over half a metre wide while the rescue is happening alternative ways to get them out are also still being explored like drilling holes from above well neil greenberg is a professor at king's college london who specializes in psychological trauma and post-traumatic stress disorder joins me now from portsmouth thank you very much for taking the time to speak to us eight boys remain trapped in this cave in northern thailand do you anticipate that the next phase of the operation will go as smoothly

as the mission today. was from a psychological point of view i'm sure the boys in the coach are left will be. by the fact that their colleagues have got out i'm sure they'll be a tad sad because it's not there but at the same time that's going to give them hope that actually of the others can do it they can do it do they mash is the guy that you say sixteen days. since day nine i'm sure their minds will be focused on we're getting out we're going home i would very much hope that the rescuers and also the contact they've had with the outside world including parents has kept them very focused on the fact is they're getting out at this stage of the operation and bringing into their minds that it might not be possible for them that there might be other doubts would not be helpful for them or indeed for the rescue effort it's interesting because psychologically for those remaining behind do you think it's

easier or more difficult for them to embark on this journey now having seen some of those that they were trapped with leaving the situation. well as i said earlier i think there will be a hint of sadness but my understanding is that the aim was to bring the weak are of the most needy out first so i would imagine of those who are left with the well if they can get out there are getting out now we've heard many times and i'm i'm no expert on the weather diving operations but that actually is the rainwater starts to come into the cape things may get more complicated but in the boys minds i'm hopeful that that they're very focused on actually think should only get easier because the others a got out and if they can do it we can do it too but you have an elite group of international cave divers involved in this rescue mission what does it mean for these boys who have no diving experience i think in some cases some of them don't

even know how to swim to have to now think about making a journey that's dangerous for experienced divers. absolutely i mean there can be no doubt that this is something that they would never consider in any other situation but i suspect that over the past seven days this is exactly what they've been prepared for and although you and i and the best the world seems to appreciate that this is a highly dangerous. endeavor what i hope that they would have been told is if you stick to the halls and stick to what we tell you that if things are going to be ok that there isn't really any need for them in a moment to acknowledge the uncertainty or the danger all they need to believe is that they are getting out and there's a large group of highly experienced divers who are going to help do that and assuming that's what they have rescuers and also from their parents that actually in their minds they should be thinking actually this is achievable work and we're

going to do it but when you when they're actually in the situation itself we were looking at the kind of stages to this charney in some parts are going to have to travel through very narrow dark passages this is you know that would make anybody feel quite claustrophobic best but frightening at its worst what how do they psychologically prepared to be in a situation in which they might find themselves panicking and gasping for air. well again my understanding is that they they practice this to some degree and in the waters near where they are and also remember that they're over there woods and they are children under sixteen apart from the cochon and therefore there are probably more used to it than adults to actually listening to the advice given them and to actually see them a bang instructions and so if the divers are say you look at ma you hold the book

you will be ok then actually they may have a better chance of just doing what they're told rather than the adults might as adults we sometimes tend to think that we know better we don't want to do what we're told but the children actually are more used to that than we are as adults and so i would i would actually think in some ways given that they are hopefully slightly sporty as their football players and also that they're relatively fit from what i understand that actually they should be something that they are being told is achievable and and if they stick to doing what the divers understand is to them with each of the individuals than that then they're going to be ok and so i guess what i'm saying here is that although the world seems to acknowledge that this is dangerous and risky from the point of view of the boys and indeed the coach they have to believe they have to have been told that actually this is achievable and clearly the fact the for them and got out today shows that it is our thank you very much for sharing your thoughts on the matter with us neil greene by professor at

king's college london thank you very much. so we bring you some breaking news now u.k. police confirming that a woman who was exposed to the nerve agent novacek in the town of amesbury last week has died forty four year old dawn sturgis fell ill after apparently handling an item contaminated with the substance a male friend she was with the time is now also critically ill police have launched a murder investigation the british prime minister to resign may says she is shocked and appalled by sturgiss death but lisa suspect it was the same batch of novacek used in an attack on russian double agent circus cripple and his daughter in nearby souls bree in march when i was who are other top story this hour if you know pia and eritrea have agreed to reopen embassies in each other's capitals as part of plans to normalize relations between the once feuding

neighboring countries if you have his prime minister is in neighboring eritrea for a historic summit it's the first such visit by any ethiopian leader in more than twenty years priyanka gupta reports. i see that was hard to imagine even a few days ago and if you'll be in prime minister locked in the embrace often eritrean leader on everything going soil the two countries haven't had diplomatic relations in twenty years but it was a gesture and an opportunity that eritrean president is a yes a forty welcomed with warm smiles and a red carpet this isn't just peace between countries to ordinary countries for two or three neighbors if you're paying your three i have very rich history shared culture shared religion and shared memory in trauma. thousands of people lined the streets of the capital to greet these motorcade they stood among flags of the two nations one said war. nearly

a hundred thousand people were killed during that conflict over a disputed border between one thousand nine hundred eighty and two thousand but over the past few weeks they have been signs of improving relations last month if europeans new reformist prime minister ahmed agree to accept the terms of a peace deal that ended the two year conflict it was his biggest and most controversial decision yet since coming to power earlier this year there are a number of disputed territories along the border and territories will move both directions. and there are going to be communities like resists being finding themselves transferred to another national jurisdiction or divided by the new order so the implementation is.