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grandma. was watching the news and that's how we actually found out about it. they even asked for the many of these socks. destroyed his chest he was already dead when the police. meant to find out it was can fifteen years old. a horrific crime but if you look at sol sol is different than any other defendant i've ever represented an injustice was done salo should never been sentenced as an adult and should never have been sentenced mandatory life and prison. for six and two for the american criminal justice system in forces our laws and keeps watch over us that person. who is watching the system. used my camera for twenty years to knock down doors and pursue
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the truth the system now we're going inside the american criminal justice system a comment from the judge from law enforcement to elected officials the court system the corrections to find out if justice is being served. or here in michigan we are looking at a very important issue in the criminal justice system namely should juvenile offenders who commit adult. like murder be charged as adults or be treated as to the rules in twenty nine states including michigan a mandatory sentence for murder is life without the possibility of parole even for juveniles even as young as thirteen. there are more than two thousand jews. serving mandatory life sentences in the united states and over three hundred sixty are in michigan that's the most per capita of any state. but in two thousand and twelve in
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the case of miller versus alabama the u.s. supreme court banned mandatory life without parole sentences for all juveniles even those who commit murder. now judges would have to hold a separate sentencing hearing taking into account a list of mitigating factors before sending juvenile murderers away for the rest of their lives. in this episode of the system we'll examine the cases of two juveniles serving life without parole in michigan one years before the miller decision and one sentence immediately after thirty four year old. spent more than half his life in prison for his role in the robbery and murder of a convenience store clerk when he was sixteen. i've come to grand rapids to meet his defense attorney larry failon. what do you want people to know about this case it's not a typical case. number one. which is tragic enough itself that someone
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that young could could be involved in a murder. from sols perspective you look at him and you you meet him you talk to him within minutes each. different was different than any other. defendant i've ever represented. in one thousand nine hundred sixteen year old drove his two friends and robert mayes to the west side beer cooler a convenience store and. waited outside in the stolen getaway car while the other two boys entered the store. stole the cash register while mayes shot and killed the store clerk sixty one year old rodney. a neighbor across the street witnessed the robbery and the following day all three boys were arrested and charged with the murder.
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joe berlinger we haven't met yet but how are you doing i'm good i'm good it's nice to meet and hear if you know mine is telling about the crime itself you know how that all unfolded and what your thoughts were. initially chris and robert wanted me to shoot the clerk and i refused to do that but i you know i agreed to drive the car and. robert volunteered to murder the clerk in my mind i rationalized that well if i'm in the car then that means i'm not there and so i'm not really a part of it. it was probably around eleven thirty the time we actually arrived at the cooler. we're just feeling anxious really anxious the whole time we just lying to snipe to be over with chris out of the car he went into the store and moments later robert followed and i sat there anything like time just like slow
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down i can't count the minutes i remember hearing two loud clapping noises. which then i knew was with the gun being fired. and then all of a sudden chris and rob are rushed back to the car and then sped off. the next afternoon we were arrested at the bar they took their seats in different cars to the juvenile center we're all separated and so they put me in a cell by myself a broke down it was terrifying just replaying everything over and over and over again and realizing that what i did zero it was horrible and that i was no different than robert who pulled the trigger i think that's when it really sunk in mortified and terrible thing. from the beginning the moment i met sam there was
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a sadness and remarks for us about his involvement that many criminal defendants do not have many criminal defendants in the system blame everybody but themselves that wasn't salo at all salt from the moment he was questioned he had meant it is responsibility didn't deny and didn't try to sugarcoat it and that's what i respected about despite the remorse that sallow felt the spite the fact that he wasn't the person who shot and killed rodney core and despite his age of sixteen under michigan law sallow received the mandatory adult sentence of life without the possibility of parole because he was the getaway driver because he helped in the commission of this felony murder in michigan he's just as guilty and suffers the same consequences robert mays the shooter case that's the law. for decades many states have viewed life sentences to be a just punishment for juveniles who participate in murder but that is starting to
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change. deborah labelle is an ann arbor based attorney leading the fight to reform juvenile sentencing laws in michigan. this is one of the most deeply flawed parts of our judicial legal system what to do with children we have turned away from the juvenile court system in the concept of rehabilitation of children for no good reason. there has been a series of decisions by the u.s. supreme court to understand how children must be treated and punished differently than adults your argument first this morning and nine six four six million versus alabama. in two thousand and twelve in the case of miller versus alabama the court said that mandatory life without parole sentences for children is simply wrong and they said it would be the rare child. that would ever be set for that because we can't predict at the front ten that
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a child can't be redeemed just weeks after the supreme court's decision in miller michigan had its first chance to interpret the new law and that's our second story the case revolves around where it was only sixteen when he and some friends robbed and shot to death a pizza delivery man in flint. the city which consistently ranks as one of the most dangerous in the country. david is the district attorney who prosecuted john with where i first got elected i never anticipated that i would have perhaps the most difficult district attorney job in america we've had record homicide rates and per capita. annually in the top three of the most violent cities in america. this was one of the most heinous cases. total. killing. david quinn was the prosecutor on call the night that the pizza
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delivery man michael nettles was murdered he prosecuted the case against john wick where david we always felt that this was premeditated we always looked at the evidence and felt that this was a setup. correct. during that thirty minutes waiting for the piece to be delivered bay sat there in platen skiing and planned on what they were going to do. they were pretty much lying in wait when mr nettles arrived. he was pretty much late to the slot. they told me give the money and give up to pete. and mr nettles didn't put up any resistance and did the entire bag and walked away. or he was sat in the back from the porch. going back to his vehicle and from his vehicle pulling out of the drive he was sat
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in the atack. his cousin was in the vehicle with him which is going on a lot of law to get to the store to get something for one of her children. i want. to get it down where you. know what the problem. with. that is going to be. numerous bit shell casings in the driveway was blood all over the car he was to notice expired right there it's a horrific horrific crimes. he was unarmed he was working for three dollars an hour plus tips mary fortune and
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they shot him for no reason. prosecutors charged the teens with first degree murder and sought the maximum adult sentence. however under the recent supreme court's miller ruling the judge now had a choice life without parole was no longer mandatory in fact the supreme court said life without parole for juvenile should be quote uncommon but despite the new law join with we're still receive the maximum penalty of life without the possibility of parole he didn't adult crime he's got to face an adult son. i've come to flint to meet jodi hemingway joins attorney to find out more about what happened the night michael nettles was murdered influence most dangerous neighborhood merril hood. this is the area where do one grew up you can see there's a lot of abandoned house fires are when no is where. i
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wouldn't be here after dark. and why i had to be here every day of his life he didn't have a choice. this is the house where when the call was made to the pizza delivery place the delivery vehicle would have pulled into the driveway here and this or not most probably came up to the porch this area. michael nettles arrived after dark to an empty house the teens approached him from the backyard so they could ambush him several of the boys including joy on carry guns. mr not all states of pizza and you know just backed away and he did what he would you know what they asked and the other co-defendants just shot him eight times at that point and i think to one knew that was going to happen i don't . at trial there was conflicting testimony about who fired the shots that killed
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michael nettles what was not disputed was the fact that you one carried and fired a twenty two caliber rifle and that the fatal shots were not fired from his gun olive the shells that were recovered from the vehicle and from the body were consistent with a forty caliber weapon which can be confused with a twenty two even though there was sufficient evidence to prove that you ones bullets didn't kill mr nettles he was the only one of the teens that later confessed to his involvement in the crime the rest of his coconspirators either pled down to lesser charges or were acquitted due to a lack of evidence and was the only teen convicted of first degree felony murder. had you on its jodi having married i am still marlins or are you. out how old are you actually now ninety eight and how long have you been there. four years. when did you start hanging out with the with your friends who ended up
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doing that crime with. a very very shady. sensitive further right. any. bit do you ever think about the victim michael nettles. if you can talk to his family well into what would you tell them. very right. when i met with john i saw a young man who had fieri immature short sighted insight
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and his involvement with this crime dr karen noel clarke is the psychologist who evaluated you on and testified at his sentencing hearing she won and many adolescent criminals tend to him and very little appreciation for long term consequences they are much more driven by immediate gratification in the ultimate cost to their lives the lines of their families to the lives of the victims and the ard fieri fieri caught up in the moment the u.s. supreme court's miller ruling focused heavily on the developmental differences between adolescents and adults citing recent advances in neuroscience that suggest adolescent brains are not yet fully developed when it comes to impulse control planning ahead and risk avoidance adolescents and young anally among and it should not be denied the best of their lives for actions that were taken at that q you don't feel nice perhaps he wasn't fully developed in his prain as some of the
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experts may say however i just don't understand anybody who could be so insensitive to the life of another human being to me that is such a heinous and grievous of facts that you have to go away for a very long time. eighteen years ago salomon tabo was sentenced to life without parole for his role in the murder of sixty one year old rodney kaur a convenience store clerk in west grand rapids sallis advocates say that he is mature. heard from who he was at sixteen. now thirty four he has turned his life around in prison studying to be an ordained minister and even marrying his childhood sweetheart laura laura has stood by his side since the day he was arrested and hopes that the supreme court's miller ruling can someday lead to a chance of parole for her husband. to better understand solace troubled past have come to his old school to meet laura and one of his former teachers janay dean. all
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right so these are your book photos from when we were in middle school together. that's his seventh grade picture. and you know back for yeah we went to school together from first grade through eighth grade i watched him as a little boy just you know being fine and energetic and full of life and i just kind of watched him change from a happy person to someone who is more angry and distant and cold or do you want people who know how shall. i know that just knowing him most of my life the core of him is very sensitive and gentle and kind you know it is hard what do you do you know tell somebody that you know he's in there what he did and were fully honest about his skill and his participation and i think that again shows the core of his heart that he's willing to be that honest how do you feel about having taught him and seeing the path he went down as a trucker into that he went down this road well one of the things that i have
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learned is that a lot of the students go through a period where they are really trying to find out who they are and what they believe i know salo wanted to please he wanted to be accepted and because of some of the difficulties at home i think he really long to be loved. i remember he was telling me the story about his parents' divorce scene it really affected. there's a hill behind our school and he went up to that hill and he said he just sobbed and sobbed and sobbed and when he was done crying he felt this anger developing and he came down the hill instead of being a little boy who was broke and he decided to be a tough kid that was mad and angry. the fact that he did this. and there's a way of you. sometimes it's really happy. to help take somebody's life and therefore he owes a debt to society. and you try really hard to be very considerate towards the
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victim's family members because these crimes are very serious. i would hate to have somebody do that to my family member of. our family with fear yes with these kids i mean absolutely enraged they even asked for them many of these. stephanie mitchell was only fourteen when her great uncle. was murdered my uncle rod was very caring he would do anything for anybody and was often remember him laughing and. when he entered a room you knew it and everyone enjoyed having him around. with my grandma was watching the news and she you know. and. she knew it was him because his loafers. and all you could see was this.
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that's how our family found out about it. during the trial two of these boys they were just so heartless about it they would turn back and just laugh at our family. i mean are you kidding me i feel anybody family would want to see justice. at the time of sentencing judge dennis had two choices send sallow as a juvenile which meant release from prison in five years at age twenty one. which at the time it mandatory life in prison without the possibility of parole. lawyer larry fail and pleaded with the court to give salah the juvenile sentence but judge kalinda chose the adult life sentence. today the two men have agreed to meet me at a local diner to discuss the case for the first time in fifteen years was
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a. juvenile that you for the way. i must admit i don't remember how many fortunately it wasn't a lot and you guys i guess have a little bit of a different view on whether or not he should have been sentenced as a juvenile and you can you talk about that issue well i i i about the just sentence was. the juvenile sentence the judge had a differing opinion that stopping to this day it was. the wrong decision. i won't say that i disagreed with larry is the word to just sense was the question is what was the legally required sentence i still think that for that crime five years was not enough you have a choice and you can like the choice and so you took the choice there in life it was an easy way out. for a judge that's the easy way out. there feel that.
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there was nothing easy about it i think it's a valid point but five years is a little light. dad sentence would never have stood for a court of appeals and supreme court would have changed it and we'd be right here and you'd be asking me exactly the same questions how do you know what the court of appeals is going to say or the supreme court's going to say you know as well as i our courts get great deference to the trout. under your theory when no juvenile whatever well. it's good i can think of i can think of any scenario of any juvenile under that system at that time that whatever way it proves the flaw in the law well you know that regard your right what do you think would have been the appropriate sentence if the actual joy of life was for role or life without parole fairly confident that i would have said. for all of the life not like the idea at sentencing that we predict for ever what somebody is going to be like for decades judges like dennis kalinda have grappled with michigan's mandatory life without
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parole sentencing laws. convicted of murder in two thousand and twelve in the case of miller versus alabama the u.s. supreme court banned mandatory life without parole sentences for juveniles. but the court did not specify whether the new law should be applied retroactively to cases like sal as that question was left to the states. michigan now finds itself in a heated political battle over what to do with the three hundred sixty three juveniles already serving mandatory life sentences in its prisons. beleaguered paying the price for his political maneuvering the middle east now desperate for american recognition and absolutely denounce. goodies how did the p.l.o. find strength and support from their only lifeline oppressed palestinians living in the occupied territories chronicling the turbulent story the struggle for
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a just zero. you're watching algis their arms the whole rom in doha these are our top news stories we have a developing story coming out of afghanistan we're getting reports that gunman have entered the education department in the city of jalalabad and now the fighting is still ongoing and this is the third attack in the city in less than two weeks saying in the region a prominent politician and twenty others were killed in pakistan in a suicide bombing attack in the city that's just weeks before a general election sixty nine others were injured by fishel say the bomber targeted a political rally in the shower killing her room below the leader of pakistan's
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boys on the football coach have been rescued from a flooded cave system. the country's health minister said the boys lost an average of two kilograms each the country's prime minister went on national television to thank all of those who helped. this mission has clearly showed us with the terminations unity and sacrifice we can overcome any obstacles although the mission is over images of people from all walks of life coming together to help regardless of race or religion will stay with us forever at least forty six people have died from cholera in yemen's port city of the data in less than a month the u.n. says the deaths happened between the thirteenth of june and the seventh of july that health conditions in the city are getting worse those were the headlines we're back with more news in half an hour with next on al-jazeera the system juvenile justice. i had a briefing today from a man named steele who has been out there working with the security forces
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a veteran of. sent to iraq you seem to be without portfolio doing whatever it is that he wanted to take interest. in counterinsurgency while this interview was going on with jim steele there were these terrible screams about pain and terror but what was his mission and what legacy did he leave. for here in michigan we are looking at a very important issue in the criminal justice system namely should juvenile offenders commit adultery prime's like murder be charged as adults or be treated as juveniles in twenty nine states including michigan mandatory sentence for murder is life without the possibility of parole even for juveniles even as young as thirteen in two thousand and twelve. in the case of miller versus alabama the u.s. supreme court banned mandatory life without parole sentences for juveniles but the
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court did not specify whether the new law should be applied retroactively that question was left to the states. michigan now finds itself in a heated political battle over what to do with the three hundred sixty three juveniles already serving mandatory life sentences in its prisons. i believe the supreme court made the right decision recognizing that you should have a blanket policy cross the board when you're talking about juveniles if it was cruel and unusual to have a blanket policy a juvenile life sentence it's why doesn't that pertain to everyone who was sentenced prior to heller versus alabama. republican representative joe heydemann has sponsored a set of bills that would mandate new hearings for all juveniles who receive mandatory life sentences prior to the supreme court's miller ruling. retroactivity was important to me not freedom not a community sentence not anything that would say that they're definitely coming out
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but in the spirit of miller at least ever recognition that these three hundred sixty three people in prison deserve a second look. good morning the committee on criminal justice will come to order in august of two thousand and thirteen the michigan state legislature held a hearing on the issue of retroactivity many victims' family members came out to voice their opposition to the proposed legislation. this guy was killed by sixteen and a half year old teen who took his gun put it to the side of his head pull the trigger they want to bring their loved ones home really cool in future cases i think i can somewhat understand going back releasing these people that have already been sentenced and having us to relive that i just can't understand from my family it has been twenty three years twenty three years of being constantly reminded or living. the nightmare of what happened to my brother not all of the victims'
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families opposed the idea of giving a second chance to these juvenile lifers stephanie mitchell grandees of rodney cork spoke in support of retroactivity my deepest condolences to all the families out here there are some that that these people don't need to be released but there are some that do in certain circumstances the prisoner does deserve a second chance in two thousand and eight salary road to run the courts family asking for their forgiveness he received no reply to three years later after a local newspaper published a feature story about his life and answer finally came. many missteps any iraqi court scrutiny. after the grand rapids press published there was something you said that touched me if i had to make a choice i would choose forgiveness from the victims' family over getting out of prison that is why i would like to start this letter by saying we forgive you. after writing the sallow in prison stephanie connected with sal as wife laura and
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this teacher. six months ago stephanie visited sallow in prison for the first time . i'm a. family. now . i asked some pretty hard questions i think for him to answer probably one of the hardest things for me to hear was did he see my own. before that day. when he did he buy a pack of gum from him earlier that day and he could have told me no i never seen. calling my mom and how sorry i am in a while i don't ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha still have a hard time how. i feel prison has helped alone and so many ways
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he grew and he changed a lot but i think part of that growth and change was the fact that he was seeing a future and. possibly never coming home i definitely think a middle ground sentence would be sufficient for him but i don't think it's would have been enough for who he was it. was or a turning point in prison where it all started to make sense and you decided you were going to turn your life around to change to who i am today definitely wasn't like an instantaneous thing but it was definitely a process. here as i stand here they have been by no means very enjoyable here but it's been totally necessary to bring me to the point where i am today. salo is the real thing he is a role model in that prison he is truly what we want our corrections department to produce is an example of why the system needs to be changed is that he's an example
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of why miller says alabama happened. the michigan state legislature eventually passed a bill ending mandatory life sentences for juveniles but did not vote on retroactivity leaving that issue unresolved until the michigan supreme court makes the ultimate decision. i'm disappointed we were right back to the old stereotype of we need to punish people and that punishment is an eye for an eye. flint michigan consistently ranks as one of the most dangerous cities in america it is here that thirty three year old pizza delivery man michael nettles was robbed and shot to death by a group of teenagers. during the ensuing trials there was conflicting testimony as to which one of the juvenile offenders actually shot and killed mr nettles as he tried to escape but only one of the defendants john wick where was ever found
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guilty of felony murder for the past four years one thousand year old with where has sat in prison sentence there for the rest of his natural life. what was it like a no growing up in. flint radicals enjoy about bruno single because believe me anything like that have a survive again. i just needed a have a feeling. this way did you ever feel scared or threatened. by me at a lot of times. i have only chosen to arrive at a ranch where i go. tell me about your mom. ok. ok. ok. twenty four five. ok.
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sonya burke's has been working her job at the laundromat for almost nine years despite recent health problems including a broken arm she never misses a day. and for taking time off they have dollar counts so come to our would be a thing on a bank to these days her biggest concern is making enough money to support you one in prison right now he needs a care package so which i need the money together or not it is like eight august is essential but is why our. own person needs some i think that's all what the ex nobody not the. son has stood by joe one side from the time he was arrested four years ago for his participation in the murder of michael nettles. and was only sixteen at the time and the police could not question him without her consent.
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and air. and his interrogation method his part in the crime. and implicated the other teens. this confession all but guaranteed a conviction. and at trial a jury found one guilty on four counts including felony murder which carries a sentence of life in prison. because of the u.s. supreme court's miller decision and it down just weeks before the trial life without parole was no longer automatic a parole bill sense was now possible joined had a right to
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a sentencing hearing to weigh all the factors at play in his case it was the first miller hearing ever held michigan miller versus alabama through everybody in the prosecution world for a loop i realized we were going to have to prove to the judge that this young man deserves a sentence of life for all i was on the record the people the state the midst of us to one and one with where case number one to the judge archie haman's would have to hear testimony from both sides were guarding john's culpability and his potential for rehabilitation the prosecuting attorney david quinn was adamant that john was a murderer and a threat to society and sought the maximum sentence of life without parole. jawans attorney joey hemingway argued that you won was not the actual shooter who killed mr nettles and his traumatic upbringing matched the mitigating circumstances laid out by the supreme court therefore she argued he deserved a parole of full sentence my room was to develop
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a picture of who he was who he had been how certain external things in captive who he had become is mom seems to have tried very hard to keep her family together but there was a two year span that she did not work because he'd been laid off and then i think he was home. beginning in first grade joy and attended seven different schools in eight years missing an average of fifty six school days a year his school history was fraught with field here he was virtually illiterate he always felt rejected by school and he got in a lot of fights in eighth grade. jawn was suspended for one hundred twenty days for hitting a school security guard after he was suspended from school it sounds as though he did virtually nothing and home there was structured more productive and he spent his time on the street he started using marijuana and ecstasy and other drugs and
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if you don't have positive role models thin that's a pretty huge hurdle for you to transcend the prosecution made its case by bringing up a serious offense from john's criminal past at this time if you propose exhibit number three admit it which is a copy of flint least from the phone number zero seven four zero seven seven for. the carjacking incident. criminal activity back to a.z. eleven this was not something that he did not want to so this is his everyday routine now yes he had a tough upbringing but he still had to have known right from wrong he had to have known that you don't aim a gun at the back of a massive man who has done nothing to you and the trigger. homicides. are by to watch is not the person who killed my car madeline's tell lacke him up and throw away the key for his wrong is disproportionate to what he did and it's
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not cops who show after two days of testimony judge heyman delivered his decision to work where in my opinion is capable of rehabilitation because of his youth and also because the reports seem to indicate that he has made some progress i would tend to believe that that factor weighs in favor of mr witt where but having said that i think the circumstances of this offense are a grievous he was in the thick of it. and therefore is just as responsible for the killing as the shooter is he is showing very aggressive violent behavior that fact always against mr what we think is family life has been. unstable. i think it has put him in a position where he probably would be a threat to society that fact also weighs against mr white where so it is the decision of this court that on the one which is the felony murder the sentence him to life without the possibility of parole. and i do that with a very heavy it took
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a lot of thought to come to this conclusion but after reviewing everything and all the testimony that it is the right thing to do in this particular situation. the whole thing was turned on a tad into mitigating factors were used as a way to face all of these obstacles to his rehabilitation existence he probably can't be rehabilitated and the exit it's the opposite i don't see how the judge can see that she won was too far i think that at sixteen it's a little too early to write him off for life michael joseph natalie he doesn't get a second chance. he's four children don't get a second chance to have. all those arguments against life without parole while i understand them they don't move me towards saying that this man or somebody in a like position should get alastor struck jawan is the three hundred sixty four the
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juvenile sentenced to life without the possibility of parole in michigan a number that continues to grow despite the miller ruling camilla says who among us can decide what child at the front end is irredeemable you cannot tell what's going to happen so then to have him serve the rest of his life in prison is i deeply flawed interpretation of miller and also really impugn the integrity of our judicial system in march of two thousand and fourteen the sentence of life without parole for juveniles was challenged in the michigan supreme court the court was asked to determine if it is ever constitutional to lock up a child for the rest of his life for felony murder and. redouble teaching judges i think that are used to just sending these kids off and it's a new day and hopefully the mission supreme court will say you can't do this. in march of two thousand and fourteen the debate over juvenile sentencing finally
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reach michigan's highest court. three cases heard here will determine how michigan moves forward when sentencing juvenile murderers. here are going to just go so this is really more decision over there is what is going to try to change. as soon as they say it in this town or one of the cases being argued raises the question should life without parole ever be an appropriate sentence for juveniles convicted of felony murder exactly the crime both shallow month i'll go enjoy one with were in prison for the development of the moment i suggested that where you have circumstances where the court has found no intent to kill felony murder aiding and abetting there needs to be a protection from these most extreme sentences baptista's consequences of every test i just don't see how you can categorically say that as family members are less for a more of even a premeditated murder and not give life that for in this situation another case
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will answer the question left unresolved by the u.s. supreme court should the miller ruling be applied retroactively in other words should the three hundred sixty three juveniles already serving life without parole be given a new sentencing hearing and a second chance at freedom at least that the court of miller chose that's why it's very carefully what miller did was make a mandatory life sentence unconstitutional not a life without parole there is no one currently sitting in the department of corrections in the state of michigan on a punishment american out of problems that's a key to keep you know what made it clear that the right of individuals sentencing has led to widespread mismatches between culpability and therefore inaccurate set. basically so we've got three hundred sixty three juvenile white versus right now sentenced under the old scheme who are serving an inaccurate sense of this point if the option of sentencing these young people to life without parole was taken away it would be a very bad situation even if you can suggest that somebody might be rehabilitated
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you still have to first and foremost keep in mind the victims and the family of the victims any sentence less than life without parole could potentially read trama ties them hopefully our mission supreme court down to the right thing and recognize that we need to take vengeance out of the punishment of our children and we need to focus on me and taishan surely we can rehabilitate and bring them back into society . americans are learning to live together when he comes home sunday. laura montel though has spent the last three years creating a home for her and her husband sallow should the michigan supreme court vote yes on retroactivity salame i finally get a parole hearing and a chance to come home hard in the us this is awful this is the room where you get to choose on colors he tells this really pull in this feeling pull on the ceiling is a full purple which i try to talk them out of it and he was like i really really want
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it there although i don't know if this year i will let go of every ounce of control i want to have laura has known sallow for most of his life from his happy childhood through his troubled adolescence to the reform man he has become even though eighteen years ago he was sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole she has stood by him faithfully four years ago they were married in the ceremony held in prison. just a fraction of all the letters that they have and thirty billion of our relationship starting from you know when you're fifteen and sixteen. when history. really last history here. the things that are holding the breed of thing. here are the armory and children who are here her parents and my dear grandchildren you know are there
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their biggest fear. turns them grabbing alcohol. how we treat those who break our laws how we treat those in prison is really a reflection of how we are is this society and what does it say about us that we're willing to let people die in prison so without looking at them is it possible there's a child so damaged that they will never be able to come out i don't know no one can predict but we should have the concept that there's redemption and rehabilitation and we should structure a system that tries to get them there is soon as possible. you're involved in something that resulted in the death the group thought about it then as it wasn't an accident in a fair and just world what do you think would have been an appropriate sentence.
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and it was. very you know. that i got out. ok. right. i think the system works i think the system worked in this case i think mr work where should and is sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole where things need to be fixed is before we ever get to the situation where when where has a gun in his hand we need to do a whole lot better job of educating our children of educating people not to have children if they're not in a position to raise them appropriately those are societal issues that we're really not addressing that's where the system's broken criminal justice system works just
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fine. there are people out there was a wild boy he did something terrible you know why should he get a break and you can you explain. why people should think about giving people a break or a life without parole says the juveniles you know i feel that i would love to be free but of a same time realizing the weight of what i've done my stance is one of of asking for mercy and asking through that recipe for a second chance. if the michigan stream court doesn't rule the miller case to be retroactive so i would have just some disappointment you know because i would love to feel to have that second chance i've grown so much that i do feel that i'm ready to be free again but it's the same time i definitely have peace with how god is using me here because the opportunity to serve others here. i would just continue to try to make a difference if i spent the rest of my life here that's what my life will be.
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about fifty thousand people were arrested under a policing strategy known as stop and frisk the car got about here it was a guy coming behind me and kicking him out back how many of your children have gotten caught in this trap i have seven sons and six of them have been arrested for drug charges so me against the war maybe take off my sneakers one thoughts down for you to the atmosphere police exploring the dark side of american justice system with job on al jazeera.
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