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life is well cast and even the final speech did attend the sudanese president charged with genocide and crimes against humanity was that of the pierre is that this shows how it's very hard to detach the politics from the football but i think people recognize that during a world cup people just want to actually focus on the game and the matches do take over and that's really the spill's that like spain struggling to hold germany in the group stage and it really ensures that the actual players and the stars i mean the fans and the russians because they were the front and. the like myself who are going around the city is in many cases fifty that were closed during soviet times you aren't used to begin but so far in this news you did seem to be welcoming bill do you think that once the euphoria has rubbed off you can have a bit of a hard landing in russia and how hard that's going to be all while this positive vibe able to carry russians through for
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a little bit longer well i i suspect it's going to be. a return to. what what russia was. you know a few weeks ago which is a hardline authoritarian state where critics are dealt with dissidents scourged i think the issues that russia faces haven't gone away the economic issues are very big and troubling for many russians i think that yeah they've had this opportunity to enjoy this world cup and good on em it's been a fantastic few weeks but i do think that those problems i thought they haven't disappeared they're still there they're real and mr putin regardless of what he accomplishes with donald trump is still going to have to deal with and it's a question of how he deals them i suspect he will deal with them as he has done in the past which is to attempt to silence all criticism and when it comes to the
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economy has there been much of a beast seen why would we russians because of this world cup well i think yes i'm sure that the economy has taken a bounce up but again that that's that's a short term fix clearly there was a lot of beer and alcohol that vendors who benefited from this world cup and souvenirs and kids and and all those sorts of proceeds the big winner in this i suspect is in terms of the financial gain i don't think that it's going to have a lasting economic impact i could stand to be corrected on that but that's my interpretation. will be the stadiums promise that they'd be sustainable have humans to vibrant football clubs was that a sense that you got some in some ways stadiums in very sort of remote places only very far from moscow. yamin they all scattered around the continent thinking to wanted some armor that was bill of rights the middle of the forest and some of them
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do not have top flight clubs they might have a team in the second division which means it's hard to tell them when they've got tens of thousands of seats and perhaps not the audience there and then we haven't seen in volgograd yes they just as the final resting place of the slide around the stadium say yes maybe they didn't quite say next to the water bear but that is generated from in russia and in many of these well customisation country that require a lot of infrastructure to be built it isn't necessary needs in the long term particularly all these stadia with ballast hospitality facilities and obviously the question many russians will have could put to better use spent on infrastructure away from football where although a lot of questions within russia as to why so much money was spent on stadiums and as rob said so much hospitality infrastructure surrounding them. well i think this is not something that will be questioned and there is
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a ferry ostrom limits to on how accountable the russian government is to its people in fact i would say that it's not i think people are happy are those in those cities where new stadiums were built or old stadiums were upgraded these were will be the places for people to use and i think all the russian people in general think that the expenses even if they are very high were worth it much worth then on other issues the big expenditures are illiquid by the government people did have fun and they will have wonderful memories and i don't think expenditures will be issue and i agree that it will not give a boost to the economy certainly not ok and we talked earlier on the human rights issues maria i mean human rights watch says that the world cup was a lost opportunity that football's governing body could have used the event as a woman leverage over the kremlin do you agree with that. well no i don't think
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so our i think always should look at these things separate and indeed a country any country is several things at the same time it's not totally focused on one or the other in especially a country as large and diverse as russia has all of it it has people who are really happy to will be open to the world into in jury the grand of the end to show the openness and by the way in his opening words before the world cup which instead we open our country and it would open our hearts to you in a sense this was true for those weeks but at the same time there is politics and there is domestic politics and there's a crackdown on freedoms in liberty is. of course there is a very very difficult problem of their relations with the west if the recent nato summit is any indication the perception of russia has not changed because of this
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extremely successful world cup the nato summit was hailed during the world cup in the final statement of the summit is absolutely the same as far as the perception of russia in the west is concerned it list of accusations russia seeing is a threat the west totally unwilling to recognize that any responsibility for the current confrontation dangerous confrontation is on the west itself ok let's throw the discussion forward to twenty twenty two russia's president vladimir putin has passed the ball to the next world cup host castle and the country's leader shakes i mean them been hammered on pani joined putin and feet as present as an official handover ceremony at the kremlin on sunday will be the first country in the middle east to host the world cup and the games will be held in the cooler months of november and december taria man says he's confident that twenty twenty two will be a success. but cottle has been under an economic blockade for more than
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a year saudi arabia u.a.e. egypt and bahrain qatar platic ties last june it organizers say this is had very little impact on preparations to run a casual has more. let's sell stadium and behave will host the opening game and the final and when it's finished in around two years' time it will seat around eighty thousand spectators now with the tournament being moved to december it also means those fans will avoid the kind of summer heat that we're experiencing today as part of its winning bid council promise to take apart many of the stadium sat the end of the world cup and send sections to developing countries to help them grow the game of course that's only part of the legacy cattles leaders and well cup organizes a still hoping football can bring this region closer together and i hope what lessons should cattle take away from russia because cattle hosting also has come of
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controversy attached to it well i think actually the main thing is ensuring sounds actually have something to do a lot of unknowns surprised and brushed by the ability to see new sights travel the country and to experience a new thing so actually it's it's actually cheap in the mental pain knowing that. as many as much tourist infrastructure in cats are as well there will be questions obviously is always about the availability of alcohol but any investor even there the retched the restrictions in place but it is actually about the travel which i think fans will notice and cats are russia as being very challenging at times those flights go through moscow even when your stats are around the country and perhaps the big thing that stands for most of the cats are is that you don't have to fly anywhere and actually the just equally it should be simpler for them absolutely i mean the big question is how do you keep all these people entertained i'm billed as cattle have what has what it takes to be as amazing as promising.
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well i think a lot of that the. the big challenge that. qatar faces i mean the thing about russia was that fans from approach there was some trepidation some concerns about hooliganism but when they got there they found the russians very welcoming very opening so that was a pleasant surprise and yes the travel was challenging but they got to see this enormous country and it was exciting i think the difficulty with with doha and i don't i don't want to knock the city it's got some fabulous architecture has got a wonderful museum of islamic art but there isn't that much going on and if you think about british tourists who go to dubai they get the full treatment in terms of all of the available tourist sites i'm not sure that there was the same as the same capability that's going to be a real issue and the alcohol is rob mentioned that's another issue and one can't imagine a world cup without gallons and gallons of beer being consumed by by fans particularly
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it is a english fans so yeah there are i think they're going to be big challenges on that front i think it's going to be a challenge to in terms of the football because if you think about it they're playing in in november and december that's going to really interrupt the a professional leagues the premier league for example a lot of players went went to russia from the premier league and i'm not sure that fans here are going to be that tickled about seeing their teams and their seasons disrupted by by this solution to the issue of the heat in the summer movie get into into november and december but would have made a difference do you think if they had made a joint regional bid something like we're seeing in twenty twenty six the u.s. canada and mexico if we'd had some kind of region wide world cup twenty in twenty. i think not as much of a much thought in the genesis of the discussions before they actually launch the fed but i don't and people were too keen and it's always did lead to this singular
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chatter that a joint bid across the region actually helps spread the burden of the stadiums i think a lot of people do question and why and if capital needs to spend the money building so many stadiums when it does not have the need for the necessary afterwards obviously what you're going to say is some of them will be broken down and some the parts them will be spread out to clean parts of africa but actually the building is not required so there is stress on the logistics and infrastructure in capital the fact there is only the warm air force and there are. really up in the hotels around and there was going to be built up to date and without the fans and the teams and the officials was actually that burden would have been spread out across the region and perhaps who knows maybe the issues that we've seen in the last year with the boycott by the neighbors would not happen if they were actually part of a unified world cup they have to deliver intrenchments there you have to have quite a thought isn't it maria one of the controversies of course migrant workers' rights
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there was a similar issue being faced in russia wasn't there and that the spotlight being shown on the workers' rights especially the construction workers the construction workers who built in the stadiums did that make any difference. well actually as a matter of fact the problem of migrant workers in russia has become less acute in recent years and i would say it less acute than it is in europe right now thing is that we have this problem and. i'm sorry to say ratio ethnic sentiments were really high and i'm talking here about twenty thirteen for instance when the mejor alexion in moscow were in long the racial alliance both as far as the incumbent campaign is concerned in that of his opponent but since then well for two reasons one of them being that the russian economy in general is on decline so we need less migrant workers workforce in that there have become less of an irritant to relabel in big
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urban centers in the other is an extension of crimea which kind of overshadowed the ethnic nationalism and replaced it by state nationalists more call it imperial and nationalist as you like so the sentiment the negative sentiment tow it people with different. experience different features different colors have not been that acute but just in the last minute that we have the euphoria of the event rubs off do we see a return then to all the major issues that russia faces when it looks out of the world . yeah i think we do i think that russia will still have to contend with all of those issues and the world and europe will have to contend with with russia the challenges haven't gone away the world cup was a respite it was a break we all enjoyed it to reflect but the real world comes back in and intervenes and there are many many issues many areas of friction not least of which is syria and during the world cup the russians and the basher us assad they secured
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a significant victory which consolidates assad and really secure is him in the long term as the syrian leader these are not times that are going to go away those issues those frictions will remain and i think that football is something you enjoy for the time but the real world comes back and and will continue to challenge us and indeed enjoyable for a time it was many thanks indeed for our guests for joining us today maria lipman bill law and rob paris. and thank you to you for watching you can see the program again any time by visiting our website as al-jazeera dot com for the discussion to go as well facebook page that's facebook dot com for slash a.j. inside story you can also join the conversation on twitter our handle is at a.j. inside story from me laura kyle and the whole team here despite you will we're going to
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but turning to anger on the home front both sides of congress criticize donald trump's news conference with that image. and i welcome to our dizzier on live from my headquarters in doha with me in the purana also ahead as well tyson said siege on gaza with more restrictions on goods going through a crucial crossing plotz. protests spread in the southern iraq despite promises from the government now vital oil production is threatened and twenty years after the stablish to prosecute the world's worst atrocities one of the legacy and future of the international criminal court.
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the us president on trump has arrived home to severe criticism from both sides of american politics after siding with the russian president vladimir putin on election meddling well speaking after their summit and fenlon trump even challenge the findings of his own intelligence community from helsinki diplomatic editor james bays. we face to face ahead. meeting a meeting that lasted over two and a half hours but if you were hoping they would solve any of the world's problems you'll be sorely disappointed instead when they spoke to reporters their comments were dominated by their views on the most toxic political issue in the u.s. an issue that just got more controversial as they seemed mainly to agree on it during today's meeting i addressed directly with president putin the issue of russian interference in our elections i felt this was
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a message best delivered in person. spend a great deal of time talking about it and president putin may very well want to address it. and very strongly because he feels very strongly about it and he has an interesting idea putin then explained that idea he'd get russian authorities to interview the twelve hackers even though the allegation is they were working on behalf of those same oath or says or he said they could set up a joint us russian investigation team and with one condition. this kind of effort should be a mutual one and then we would expect that the americans would reciprocate and they've been i would question of fish.
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