are safe things should many of us assume this referendum. most parties in congress voted in favor of the referendum before the last presidential elections but i've seen some voided any promotion of the initiative president announced he will vote but many in this party say they will not. last don't solve corruption colombia is full of codes and regulations but nothing changes we need to change the culture in the country and we need citizens to keep a close eye on politicians otherwise we are just throwing away public money in initiatives that will have little effect but and they said man this of transparency international says the vote can have a major impact. if millions of citizens vote in favor of it less strong symbolic effort in the political class it will said this is not an issue in the background check specked in the south and concrete measures if it passes the referendum will be binding the congress obligated to introduce changes within

a year the answer lies in the hands of colombian voters who have an opportunity to turn the page on politics as usual in the country. more than twelve million that are necessary for this referendum to be binding might be. personally according to the are going to. be held most of the traditional parties who said that they will back. very little very little but they're about to come out and. seven different measures we're going to have. happen from now on twenty one quite a few hours ago for. referendum which again is a unique opportunity and the first time that real anti corruption measures my league. probably thank you for that alice on the ramp for

a scene bogota colombia. still ahead here on al-jazeera top afghan security officials offered to resign and made security concerns. probably welcome such a look at the international focus is looking classified and dry settles and sunny across the middle east one or two showers just around the coaxes pushing up across the black sea into the caspian sea nothing too much to report here forty six celsius kuwait city still very hot thirty celsius in beirut type of the next couple of days this is sort of temps that we will see across that eastern side of the mediterranean getting up into the low thirty's still for couple of maybe just touching thirty degrees there for karate a little more cloud here

a little bit of cloud soon to central parts of saudi arabia on monday might just see a spot or two of rain coming out of that nothing much to speak of and if anything that will ease as we go on into tuesday said generally dry lots of hot sunshine trees benign forty two celsius here and winds coming in from the northwest and not feeling too he made try to across a good positive southern africa want to sue our spots of rain just moving through the southern cross the western cape thirteen celsius then for cape town struggling on those temperatures but seventeen there for durban and also four to harness but warming up a little as we go on into chieftan by choose day it's turning dry and bright once again it's a cape town with a high of sixty. and i am bush's health system restore that paid off. of comedian.

ten million over ninety six million citizens receive free health care we're both agreeing insurance premiums are going to be. the extraordinary story of turkey's monumental health care transformation and the people at the heart of things the people know on al-jazeera. and. they're watching al-jazeera live from doha a reminder of our top stories at this hour live pictures from dublin ireland where pope francis is about to depart from after a two day visit which has been somewhat overshadowed by the allegations of child

sex abuse in the catholic church the pope greeting there various dignitaries who have come to wish him good bye after this visit to ireland pope francis has apologized for the crimes committed by catholic clergy against islands to women and children earlier today he asked for forgiveness in front of a nearly half a million people. a public mass in dublin and not a pope about to leave ireland after thirty six hour visit this was the first visit by the head of the roman catholic church and nine hundred seventy nine the last visit by pope to island was by pope john paul the second nearly forty years ago again live pictures from dublin as pope francis is about to leave after a two day visit. in other news zimbabwe's new president has urged the country to unite and focus on helping the economy grow and miss

a non-god war has been so on in after weeks of political uncertainty over an election disputed by the main opposition coalition the inauguration took place at the national stadium in the capital harare. and colombians are heading to the polls to vote on a series of. corruption measures the bill needs at least twelve million votes to pass and if it does go through it could see big changes in how public contracts are awarded and politicians could be forced to declare their income. pouring in from around the world for u.s. republican senator john mccain who died on saturday he was eighty one and had been suffering from brain cancer john mccain was a prisoner of war in vietnam he supported american military interventions in afghanistan and iraq and backed israel's twenty fourteen war in gaza the former president and fellow republican george w. bush said john mccain was a man of deep conviction and a patriot of the highest order he was

a friend who deeply miss barack obama former u.s. president a democrat who defeated mccain in the twenty eighth two thousand and eight presidential race spoke of their shared ideals and said few of us have been tested the way john once was or required to show the kind of courage that he did and outside of the us french president emanuel course said john mccain was a true american hero he devoted his entire life to his country his choice will be missed as my kind of takes a look back now at his life and legacy. from prisoner of war to presidential candidate in two thousand and eight john mccain mum to the challenge against barack obama but lost in a landslide my friends we have we have come to the end of a long journey. merican people have spoken and they have spoken clearly he returned to the senate where he served as a senator for arizona more than thirty years after the war hero most in the trump

election a man with whom mccain had a prickly relationship in the past which did not improve senator mccain emerged as the conscience of the republican party in pushing back against several actions of a president who was the party's new voice on the trump travel ban i think the effect will probably in some areas give isis some more propaganda we don't want to shake news on threats against the media when you look at history the first thing the dictators do is shut down the press and i'm not saying that that's that that president trump is trying to be a dictator i'm just saying we need to learn the lessons of history. on the likely reaction of past leaders to claims of alternative facts they would be alarmed by the growing inability and even an willingness to separate truth from lives senator mccain served in the vietnam war his aircraft shot down over her noyo he broke his

leg and arms suffered torture and spent more than five years as a prisoner of war before returning to the u.s. as a war hero a description he humorously undercut during this visit to the libyan city of benghazi in two thousand and eleven they also served in the united states navy for many years i was a pilot yeah. but i'm not a very good pilot i was shot down diagnosed with cancer and recovering from head surgery john mccain received a standing ovation when he returned to the hill for a crucial senate vote and the motion is agreed to. he followed the republican line in voting to open a debate on repealing the affordable care act but in his speech was deeply critical of a senate that he described as more. and more tribal than ever before let's trust each other let's return to regular order we've been spinning our wheels on too many important issues because we keep trying to find

a way to win without help from across the aisle and a few days later in the early hours of the morning john mccain put principle before party. defying immense republican pressure to support a bill repealing barack obama's health legislation he's back. and in that moment he rose above the senate mired in endless squabble offering the hope that governance by consensus rather than by command could still be possible. that the right at times john mccain could be wrong but on the strong medic night he demonstrated truth to himself and to the country he devoted his life to serving well i saw speak to him bassett occurred volker in washington d.c. he's the u.s. special representative to ukraine and also the executive director of the mccain institute for international leadership at our is on a state university thank you very much for your time and vaster tributes to john

mccain have not just come from the u.s. but from leaders from around the world including the french president as we've heard what is it about john mccain that gave him this noble stature and made him an american role model in the eyes of many people. he represented the best of what people around the world like to think of as america he stood for strength and alliance and partnership for strong security and his strong assistance to allies and at the same time a very strong advocate in a voice for the oppressed in the world those suffering from human rights abuses those who are striving to build democracy in their societies and he was seen by them very much as their advocate so no matter where you travel you find that people feel almost as though that he touched their lives personally because of those stances that he always took he had no doubt huge influence over u.s. foreign policy some of his critics would however say vaca he was at the forefront

also of some of america's worst foreign policy decisions and blunders he backed u.s. military interventions from the first gulf war two to the later invasions of ghana's stan iraq in two thousand and three did he ever come to regret some of his hawkish foreign policy positions and you know the interventions that have had disastrous consequences for some of the people in the countries affected. well i think the biggest one there is the war in iraq which is very complicated and challenging you are right that he did support the initial invasion as did most of the american political establishment in that year and a half after the september eleventh attacks in hindsight i think everyone saw that the premise of the presence of weapons of mass destruction in iraq was overstated that being said the came along all of our leaders took responsibility for that decision later on urged a surge against the wishes of the bush administration at the time but convinced the

bush administration to go forward with the surge in iraq to restore some kind of civil order and security in the country working very closely with general petraeus and and working with the sunni population in iraq that turned the tide in iraq and actually laid the foundations for more successful iraq and forward in the other cases afghanistan and the gulf war i think he stands by those decisions as what was necessary at the time what he's always focused on or whatever is the exit queue sion of our missions he was also a dedicated supporter of israel and he condemned us un resolutions condemning israel and settlements and so on. what do you see as see. his vision on the israeli palestinian conflict. was did he care about the fate of palestinians and you know what was his view. about this conflict

and how it could be resolved. well that's a great question because you're absolutely right betty to a very close very strong relationship with israel at the same time is a very strong and close relationships with allies in the arab world as well for president or sort of king abdullah of jordan to the king of saudi arabia the crown prince there now egypt and so on and his vision has always been you've got to have security and you've got to have democracy and you've got to have peace among people and that can't happen when israel is the target of attacks at the same time i think is quite sympathetic for the human rights issues confronting the palestinian people and always seeking a settlement there one last question for you ambassador because you were the u.s. special representative to ukraine ukraine of course saw john mccain as its strongest american supporters in its ongoing conflict with russia how do you think is that this going to impact u.s. policy on the russia ukraine issue. i think senator mccain has already had

a tremendous impact on u.s. policy concerning ukraine and concerning russia right now i believe there is more consensus in the united states on those policies than has been the case for decades both in terms of support for ukraine non-recognition of russia's annexation of crimea lifting the arms embargo on ukraine to help them defend themselves against russian aggression sanctions against russia because of the invasion and a strong position of pressure back against russia to create the space for dialogue to see if we can solve problems that's now a consensus position in the u.s. the administration congress and so forth and that is really already a legacy of senator mccain's efforts ambassador volker thank you very much for taking the time to speak to us kurt volker a u.s. special representative to ukraine talking to us about the legacy of john mccain thank you very much thank you. afghanistan's government has come under increased

pressure after a series of high profile attacks the national security adviser has resigned but present ghani has rejected the resignations of other senior security officials and cabinet members osama bin jawad it has are reports. the man in the middle is considered one of the understands most powerful politicians but he is no longer the national security adviser to president bush of danny and no longer a close ally whether it was talking to the russians or helping his boss with the u.s. administration at maher has been with plenty since twenty fourteen his career began in the one nine hundred eighty s. under the soviet backed government and continued in the security circles during her tenure facing a deteriorating security situation president bashar gunny has rejected further resignations from top security officials that includes. the interior minister the spy chief mushroom stein exactly who heads the national directorate of security and the defense minister. i want to find

a shuttle to hold elections next year and potential candidates will need to convince voters they can improve security but didn't get anyone to counter this and make this to include a situation but still. give me the problem gets good initial problem did not make the situation improved we have to take some mystic and tough decisions contrary to recent pentagon briefings about taliban being desperate and losing ground the group has intensified its campaign in recent weeks the afghan government is under increasing pressure for failing to stop attacks and as well as i still carry out attacks people want answers. we have no security zero zero security because almost every day thirty forty people are killed you tell me do we have security i don't trust the government between when i sleep and when i wake up there are a lot of changes in the government how can we trust them but in the last four years the changes in the government didn't help the country the security situation is

getting worse every day if they're not capable of protecting us they should tell us on tuesday blasts were heard as president danny delivered a live speech to me out the beginning of the the holidays the taliban was blamed for rockets fired at the presidential palace. glassman the taliban launched a brazen attack on the city of gardening it ended after days of intense fighting the killing of more than one hundred people and wounding hundreds more going into an election near the afghan president faces a difficult challenge of carrying out security reforms while retaining an uneasy coalition of allies some of the job it is their. play again i'm fully back to bill with the headlines on al-jazeera pope francis has apologized for crimes committed by catholic clergy against islands women and children he asked for forgiveness in front of nearly half a million people during

a public mass in dublin. shows we ask forgiveness for the abuses an island the abuses of power of conscience and sick szell abuses perpetrated by members with roles of responsibility in the church in a special way we ask pardon for all the abuse is committed in various types of institutions run by male or female religious and by other members of the church and we ask for forgiveness for those cases of explore taishan through manual work that so many young women and men were subjected to we ask forgiveness. zimbabwe's new president has asia country to unite and focus on helping the economy grow amasa non-god was sworn in after weeks of political uncertainty over an election disputed by the main opposition coalition inauguration took place at the national stadium in the capital harare. we don't do we're born out and you

for. over a broad spectrum are often international observers and grab media. we really had to decide as our democratic road. leader for choice and. we did and i used to drink you know my friend about a year and wherein we litigated. for proof colombians of voting in a referendum on tougher untie corruption laws on position pointed politicians are supporting the vote if it does go through the bill could see the salaries of congressmen lowered for spawn additions to the clear they come and change the way public contracts are awarded and tributes are pouring in for u.s. senator john mccain who has died at the age of eighty one he was suffering from

brain cancer mccain spent more than five years as a prisoner of war in vietnam and more than three decades as a republican senator inside stories next. outraged protests and calls for reform pope francis visits ireland he's under pressure to take action against spread sex abuse by priests how will he address the scandal and what will it mean for the future of the roman catholic church story.

hello and welcome to the program. church is the largest one of the oldest religious institutions in the world but it's facing some of its biggest scandals and criticism in recent history pope francis with the world's one point three billion catholics is under pressure to strongly act against child abuse by priests on the cover up by church officials that often follows well the issue has overshadowed his two day trip to ireland the first papal visit in nearly forty years we'll bring in our guests in a moment but first up our discussion from dublin. there are mixed and deeply emotional feelings about pope francis his visit here to ireland for the faithful it is a time of joyful celebration in a country where more than seventy percent of people identify themselves as being catholic although an increasingly secular island the number of people actually

practicing their faith and going to church on a regular basis is significantly lower less than forty percent even ahead of pope francis's visit here to island sexual abuse allegations in the united states were growing and spiraling and sexual abuse here in ireland by members of the catholic church also a long shadow over irish history pope francis wasted no time in using his opening address here in ireland in dublin castle to address abuse head on describing the abuse as despicable crimes he's perhaps gone further than any previous cessna and the catholic church in addressing abuse but many survivors feel that he hasn't gone far enough in explaining what concrete steps the catholic church can take in bringing the guilty to account many survivors want the vatican to open its files and share with the world and law enforcement agencies exactly what the catholic church knows about historical abuse allegations in the church by members of the

clergy pope francis also took the time to meet with eight victims they shared a letter with him detailing the accounts of one hundred thousand irish women single mothers who were separated from their children told that if they get in touch with those children that it would be a sin they were in said sent to work ounces known as my berlin laundries where they were subject to all forms of abuse both mental and physical pope francis knows that there is an open wound here in irish society but can the pontiff help heal that wound need for inside story. let's take a closer look at the roman catholic church and the scandals it's faced molestation by priests was rarely discussed in public but it started to surface in the one nine hundred eighty s. particularly in the u.s. and canada over

a decade later the issue expanded to other countries in one thousand nine hundred five the archbishop of vienna stepped down amid sexual abuse allegations and earlier this month a grand jury in the u.s. named more than three hundred clergy in a report that found more than a thousand children were abused in pennsylvania over seventy years in australia archbishop philip wilson resigned last month after being convicted of concealing child sex abuse by another priest and in chile all thirty four roman catholic bishops offered to resign in may in the wake of a child sex scandal cover up. let's now go to our guests joining us in dublin is christopher lamb he's the correspondent for the tablet weekly review in london michael waltz a vatican historian and editor of the oxford dictionary of pope's and churn of a sea ukraine joining us via skype is donna coyne he's the director of research at

the school of law and government of dublin city university thank you very much for joining us on al-jazeera donna so we see the pope now in ireland he begged for forgiveness for a clerical child sex abuse and says he wishes to see justice served for the thousands of abuse survivors that he go far enough in acknowledging the church's role in their suffering or that he fall sorts. well from what i've heard so far the reaction from. used members of the catholic church he didn't go far enough because he's more observant fortunate very familiar with the stage what people are looking for is you know accountability and and not just simply apologies i'm not even sure what he wants of arsenic an apology he simply acknowledged you know that there were crimes committed and he shared the shame that many members of the catholic church felt but i think that you know this isn't good enough anymore and he you know i think it's very interesting to kind of compare it is able to treat is one which i'm

old enough to remember pope john paul the second in one thousand nine hundred seventy nine when there was i think a genuine affection and enthusiasm for the visit and certainly our it was a very different place than you know abortion was indeed a lot of sexuality was a crime contraception wasn't illegal. censorship was right and now you look at the pope coming here in two thousand and eighteen. you see that it's a very different argument reaches by prime minister who is in so he meets the minister for children who is is a lesbian abortion is legalized by popular referendum area this year it's a radically different government but the catholic church at least part of so many people are now hasn't changed as fundamentally i think that's why this is a very different visit from from that of forty years ago because a very different are michael also your take on what the pope had to say is that all rhetoric. well i mean people going down the pub to have not just the present pope but of the pope a foot have gone apologizing those who have been abused that fear that's enough

what they want is action. but that action might be is difficult to say they've caused one of the people who has. met some of the committee collins was a was a member of the pope's commission when she complained about it in the vatican about the treaty dealing with these cases of abuse and she complained that there was too much. they that the vatican officials got in the way the vatican bureaucracy got in the way of them doing that work and she resigned clearly the need to strengthen that commission to make sure that it is seen to be operating chris lamb good book to say much more about the vatican than i can but clearly the pope is in a bit of a dynamic because his the holes drift of his pontificate has been actually to devolve power from the papacy down to the bishops and in this case of course in many cases at least it's the bishops who are to blame christopher lamb you're

covering the story from ireland itself so the pope didn't use the word crimes to refer to the incidents of child sexual abuse he called them a repellent as well. but he also said that he pledged a greater commitment to eliminating this scourge in the church at whatever cost and i'm quoting him here but did he offer any concrete detail about how he plans to eliminate the scourge. of the question of abuse and. the domenici and visits and the. fall of the media and. i'm standing here live in phoenix and there are five hundred thousand people behind me for a way into the rain the terrible weather conditions of to come here and i think we have it's clearly a terrible problem with a few times a day maybe still a strong connection between the. people here. rachel the.

big despite the problems that the focus face of this business. on the ground for the most. well this gets to the case like release this huge problem challenges she's got to do. with the accountability of bishops. and this is my wish the church to. examine allegations made against saying here. we'll just make up to your children but also just call them dogs by the sea biggest fish x x seven area. and he's going to come up with proposals for the good. of the word vis a vis he has met with a few survival studies being done in our home for the last five years it's not just sexual abuse by priests schools institutionally abused by a lot of baby homes who jumps. on trees but i think what this visit is also

shows is that a new chapter is going on the relationship between the institution of mass could not and that something to teach should be a branch pulled forward his speech which was at the same diplomatically would have been there was a very strong message of the lot of this changed and that they won't elation with the church not the one they have the pulse of the catholic church has fallen to dominance. so just to follow up on that point christopher what kind of relationship then are they looking for. festival the catholic church of the nineteenth century the victorian catholic church of. bishops will affect the running the country the church was running the state that has got to end them in live around the chief said in his speech yesterday that it wasn't until twenty five years off the founding of the irish state. department of health departments so well

members sent out by the ira just to say the church is basically everybody in the country. model of the imperial now which i just don't see a guy who really want to be a new relationship with the church is that a son and i salute the flag around six thousand and i'm delighted repeatedly thrice pontifical of the church is not meant to protect the institution of most of the chat she still saying that's a sign to live out the message of the gospel the institution has to come second to the gospel so the irish times it means connecting with the early church or somehow shoring. up the gentlemanly of the bishops in the nineteenth century at the bottom of the nineteenth century church of the loop on the night it becomes a dull enough he is seen as a reformer will he be able to reform these issues when it comes to clerical child sex abuse or is he going to face resistance

well i'm not sure you know he's seen as a reformer certainly he's not seen by everybody is reform or these protesters delight in stock like yours meanwhile he was jettisoned i think it was very much of a branding efforts and i said the words are still the same but we haven't seen the actions and indeed there's been a report out report not just in our what's around the world someone on something i want to say then. well a very simple form it would be a start if they simply. does not need a scan of the cover up of knowledge of legally started paying the victims the money that is due to them so not and for example there is that the state has been digging up the tab for all of this abuse and the church even the modest amounts of the agreed to pay they haven't actually delivered upon it how can you say that you're you know sorry for the crime but if you don't you know you know who not to risk it in a fundamental sense by paying to victims and indeed i think that we still treat the

church with a degree of deference which would if it was any other organization and we didn't know the organization of the world but didn't have this kind of cloak of being something special because it was religious was involved in the scale of criminality to the type of penis crimes that were committed in so many countries around the world and indeed up until the last decade our president and this was only revealed in the last week or so it was be asked by senior political efficiency to indemnify the catholic church are done from the financial repercussions of crimes so you know with you we would treat this organization as a criminal organization but you know instead we're supposed to you know treat it as something different we're supposed to well committed to this business also i think something in the region thirty two million euro which again i think it's next there is picking up the top four so it's to me your i phone the whole thing before i'm ready. and welcome and i think i'm not alone in that environment i mean what we want to see i think is is separation of church and state is what it computes separation of church and state and we don't have that as long as for example ninety six percent of our schools i'm speaking as an educational steer there at the

university level ninety six percent of our primary schools are still controlled by religious orders not a thing considering the type of care if you can call it that if missing out to children over the decades is completely unacceptable and in some acceptable in a modern republican any sense michael i think you wanted to john and i go ahead alan i'm in the church set these jet discos up in the first place and not the. state i mean i quite agree that. in the united kingdom the state ought to be funding these churches and taking them away not taken away from the religious orders but the diligence holders have a part to play in education who happens to continue to do so but i mean to have just tried to go back to something chris lamb said he said that picking up on what you lost because said too that he said that this was a nineteenth century church in fact of course as your last because implied this the situation of the church dominant big dominant in our society went on till very recently it was written into the irish constitution when i went became an

independent state republican on became an independent state. as for the pope not being a reformer well i think that chris could answer that role better than i but it's not the perception i think that with inside the church there's a lot of. given the amount of hostility that he's aroused in the conservatives within the catholic church it's pretty evident that they vote regard him as a reformer christopher lamb let me ask you about an issue that you've been tweeting about in fact that we there are reports that a former vatican official has called on the pope himself to resign saying that he knows about allegations of sex abuse by a prominent u.s. cardinal for five years before accepting his resignation and that happened last month and that cardinal theodore mccarrick what do you know about this story and if true how significant is this. well they're very serious allegations from the get there is a former ambassador in washington he was released soon this morning and then she

told me told by francis in the bounce the sexual misconduct of the mccarron which should be clear. and adults here there is not an allegation that theodore mccarrick abused children are little macaque has been credibly excusing using children has been removed as a cardinal but he's now and i was bishop thank you for correcting me but the point about this this does is it comes time to think the maximum damage from this nomination when you know is part of an anti francis faction within the roman curia and he is seeking to. discredit francis now that doesn't mean we shouldn't take the allegations seriously if it is true you about the behavior of mccarrick and did nothing that is a big problem for pope francis however we have to see the context and the fine detail here the other thing than the. jamaican i was saying about mccarrick is the

. benedict the sixteenth. sanctions. frankly stop sort of being a public ministry many years but i do want to right now see cardinal mccarrick that cardinal mccarrick was traveling all over the while actually schedule there were no sections effectively in place over here so there are a number of problems with the testimony that archbishop to get that was put forward . how he said about the pope needs to look at what is being said and there needs to be some sort of response michael was how big a problem are these allegations for the pope. well there a very big very big issue clearly because as chris said they the person who's making the non-o. used to be the vatican's ambassador in washington and therefore you papal nuncio as they call them and therefore you'd expect him to know and know these things and i think the one of the reforms that the pope could make. where relatively easily i

would have thought was to change the way in which the. which bishops are appointed by bringing in a greater variety of people to make to decide upon them as the congregation for bishops is made up of bishops the pope goes on and on about article as about his clerical isn't really that large that they the bishops appoint bishops but they in fact it would be a good idea if we had when pointing a bishop in an island or the united states or the united kingdom or in the ukraine if they had people from these particular women from these countries taking part in these does this decision making. donna had to agree with dance well again. i have to profess to be you because your other guests obviously are much more familiar with you and intimacies of the catholic church than i am speaking as somebody who was a citizen of our was not a member of a religious order necessity i think that's the majority people are in today and it's really how the church i mean whatever internal rankings are going into the

charts it's in their formers and zealots it's something that really doesn't concern not religious people but it can think i'm certain is not what it is the biggest one interacts with the states and i think what we need for founding of set people was that the church treated itself as a special institution which its own interim laws were somehow superior to those things and one thing that you guessed from all these reports that having to dump barns and not just is this inability to interact with state authorities and the police when criminology was was being undertaken but there was a a certain rulebook almost institutionalized hubel where you know first you didn't acknowledge that there was any problem and then when there was a problem that emerged recently transferred peter binds to other places other powers that they could commit other crimes that repartee issue of the church was the series to be the most important aspect the victims were in the lowest in the hierarchy and that's not just me saying that that's the actual you know confusions of the reports that have been conducted as the catholic church in ireland and i

think that as i said going back to to the money to the control of education and things like that there hasn't been i think and not signs of genuine contrition it's use of or that's often used in the catholic church we've heard words but we haven't seen actions and i think again i go back to his point that you know it's about separation of church and state and i think about there is there's an increasing body of opinion in the arms of day and i think that the pope is being made aware of this during his visit which are are not going to to to accept this time to differential arrangements to the church and indeed as i said there's no reason why it was but i'm south-west our land then christopher land how strong is this idea of separation of church and state and ireland right now. and i think really is in the for. a new relationship. is a separation of church and state in the irish constitution to go. find a sense of schools and i. think it's

a delicate issue that needs to be looked at nearly. to new in the same way our relationship church has to be. take its role within that in the country and. it's a shock as. i think it's fair game back to the question of coverups. grannies to get a grip of. the global age scammell the right place to leave. poses a strong argument that sort of thing to to handle clerical sexual abuse safeguarding protocols to enforce things from the far as they can from from the center most child protection experts tell me then there is a need for centralize they should this issue goes to get some of the five processes talked about in terms of desensitization city about local churches but the point is dr has to get a grip of this issue. but it's not going away you can never. turn this

issue off just a question of behaving modified in such a terrible scandal i think he does understand. i think he also has the tools to deal with that because this is all about the question of whether you protect the institution. called message francis and. said that it's the full message of. christianity. is it evidence how the church will live or die protection of the institution. people think about still celebrate what he talked about the to get rid of. rick listen. the concentration of power in the church months small elites many people who are decisive there are many people in the church you think that the abuse problem is about homosexuals gay priests but if you read the church of gay priests the way.

you know there's no evidence to suggest. actions inside. the michael waltz how will the pope be able to guide how will the pope be able to guide the church in the face of these damaging cases and damaging allegations well i've heard puzzled by this campus is the talk of separation of church and state i mean there is separation of church and state and i look at the as a united kingdom and france italy all the catholic countries as far as i'm aware now have a clear cut distinction between the church and state because the fact is that the bishops are still free to express their opinions and encouraged their t two. to devote for instance as in the recent. referendum an island on contraception the vote in a particular way that is not a sense reflection on the bishop is not on the on the actual status of the catholic

church the pope. says it wants to devolve power to the local bishops it is a question of the who who we choose to be bishops or who they the church chooses to go bishop that's why i said we need a better more transparent process in rome and that's something that certainly within the pope's power to bring about. all right so on that note so we'll leave it there thanks to all our guests christopher lamb michael walsh donna coin thanks for joining us thank you for watching you can see the program again any time by visiting our web sites al-jazeera dot com and for further discussion you can go to our facebook page that's facebook dot com forward slash a.j. inside story you can also join the conversation on twitter our handle is a j inside story from myself and the whole team here in doha.

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apology for the crimes of the church he leaves after meeting with some of the many victims of sexual abuse. i hear at home a hawk in the middle east john mccain's legacy prays and question doctor the u.s. senate as death at the age of eighty one also this hour. a mass. to zimbabwe gets its second president after a bitterly contested election and legal challenge and putting it to the people colombians hold on anti-corruption proposals that could change the face of the nation's politics i'm joining us go with a day sports the best inventor wins the belgian grand prix and the halo safety device does its job as one young driver walks away from this spectacular crash. thank you for joining as pope francis has apologized for crimes committed by

catholic clergy mainly against islands women and children while the song. he asks for forgiveness in front of nearly half a million people during a public mass in dublin the issues of child sexual assault and abuses by members of the church have dominated the pontiff's first visit to the one state the catholic country. shows we ask forgiveness for the abuses an island the abuses of power of conscience and sick child abuse is perpetrated by members with rolls of responsibility in the church in a special way we ask pardon for only abuses committed in various types of institutions run by male or female religious and by other members of the church and we ask for forgiveness for those cases of explore taishan through manual work that so many young women and men were subjected to we ask forgiveness. well pope francis

lifted off not long ago prime minister leo overact car was among those at the airport the pope's last event before leaving was a speech at a meeting of bishops all the pontiff to work for justice and say that in ireland the honesty and integrity with which the church chooses to confront this painful chapter of her history can offer an example and a warning to society as a whole. has been covering the tree for ascend. but as pope francis departs only he's left with him a message to the bishops of the country saying that they must set up stringent new dome to be able to tackle the legacy of news here in the country and make sure that the level of abuse in the villages institutional and other levels never happened again obama's numbers of people gathered in phoenix taken near him speak into

a ten month mindset in his own police spoke at length asking for forgiveness for the congregation of believers but also for the oil and for the feel of the whole thing is at least that this will give back some degree of change here religious identity but when he said believe was a political views believe that the pope didn't go far enough in setting up concrete steps in which the pope and the church could move forward in addressing some of the ills of the past some of those survivors of oz cool the vatican to open its bonds and share with the world my moon has been agencies details about cost of sex abuse crimes but also to make sure that any members of the church guilty of covering up of years ago longer in positions of authority and power it is a historic moment here in ireland because one does get the sense the pope leaves the country that is work here is going to get over. and now the news world leaders past and present are among those paying tribute to john mccain out to his death.

the age of eighty one from brain cancer mccain spent five years as a prisoner of war in vietnam and went on to become a long serving us republican party senator and presidential candidate former president and fellow republican george w. bush said john mccain was a man of deep conviction and a patriot of the highest order he was a friend who deeply miss democrat barack obama who defeated mccain in the two thousand and eight presidential race spoke of their shared ideas and said few of us have been tested the way john once was all required to show the kind of courage that he did and outside of the us french president emmanuel mccall said john mccain was a true american hero he devoted his entire life to his country his voice will be missed let's go live to our jazeera as rentals in washington d.c. rob tell us first about what is known about the public memorials and funeral arrangements for john mccain. right well the main

centerpiece of the public memorials for john mccain will be that he will his body will lie in state in the ornate rotunda of the capitol you know the famous dome that surmounts the capitol building in washington d.c. beneath that there is a large round rotunda room and only thirty individuals public servants that is have been so honored in united states history so that has been agreed to we have information from the senate and house leadership that they're going to put that together and the public will then be allowed to pass by pay their respects to john mccain there will also be a ceremony in a lying in state in the arizona state capitol in phoenix and the former

senator will be buried at the naval academy in annapolis where he studied and graduated as a midship and at the funeral itself to be held at washington national cathedral mccain's family says that they've asked former presidents barack obama and george w. bush to speak but quite pointedly although the vice president mike pence has been invited the president donald trump with whom senator mccain had many differences and many disagreements has not yeah and mccain was one of the few republican lawmakers who were critical of donald trump how does his passing change the political dynamic in washington rob. well i think just as you said he was he was the most prominent. republican who dared to criticize trump almost every other republican is fallen

into lockstep fearful that they will face reprisals from trump's hard core base of voters if they cross the president in any meaningful way there are a couple of senators like bob corker of of tennessee the chairman of the foreign relations committee who also spoken up against him but he's leaving congress as is jeff flake the other. arizona republican senator all retiring after this coming election so with mccain's passing and with those two leaving there are virtually no significant of voices in the u.s. senate you know people of really high stature and seniority who are willing to vote or to try and stop any of trump's agenda or even to rally the republicans who are not absolutely in our of trump around some alternative thank

you for that rob reynolds live for us in washington d.c. when i say about john mccain's legacy on the world stage ambassador kurt volker is the u.s. special representative to ukraine and the executive director of the mccain institute for international leadership at arizona state university he says john mccain stood out in how he handled the fallout of america's two thousand and three invasion of iraq which he initially supported. the came along all of our leaders took responsibility for that decision later on urged the surge against the wishes of the bush administration at the time but convinced the bush administration to go forward with a surge in iraq to restore some kind of civil order and security in the country working very closely with general petraeus and and working with the sunni population in iraq that turned the tide in iraq and actually laid the foundations for more successful iraq going forward in the other cases afghanistan and the gulf war i

think he stands by those decisions as what was necessary at the time what he's always focused on the whatever is the executive of our missions that's our return to our top story on this news hour and the pope's visit to ireland which has ended just a short while ago. letter is by by the vatican's former top diplomat in the united states is threatening to overshadow the pope's quest for forgiveness several conservative catholic outlets publish accusations by archbishop the gyno accusing pope francis of covering up allegations of sexual misconduct by an american cardinal theodore mccarrick the gunnels letter calls on the pope to resign the vatican has yet to respond to the allegations well i want to bring in colm o'gorman in dublin he was one of the organizers of the stand for truth protest today and also a victim of sexual abuse within the church and the director of amnesty international island thank you very much for being with us before we talk about this letter and

the accusations by this american. religious figure former religious figure i want to hear your thoughts about what we heard from the pope in ireland you've been a very outspoken critic and outspoken about the catholic church lack of accountability in the abuse scandal what did you make of pope francis asking for forgiveness for the abuses committed in ireland did he go far enough. well when i was a very young child my parents my forebears my society and as it was at the time my church taught me that if i wanted to seek forgiveness if i wanted to apologize to anybody the first thing i had to do was identify the action that caused harm and take responsibility for us and it seems quite extraordinary that a toddler can learn that but a pope can't the pope begged for forgiveness when he was in ireland as we've heard previous popes do he didn't at any point indicate what it was that he or his institution and that's the vatican the institutional roman catholic church is

looking for forgiveness for he talked a lot about the actions of all of this the crimes of priest he calls them reprehensible and criminal his rights they were to rape a child is a is a serious and grevious crime and sort of cross that he talked about the cover up that was perpetrated by some bishops who referred in these closing comments today about some bishops not all bishops not acknowledging that this was systemic and he stopped at the level of bishop in no way did he acknowledge the proven evidence to fact the objective fact that the roman catholic church at the level of the vatican at the level of pope's and members of the curia has driven and implemented a cover up of the crimes of the clergy the rape and abuse of children of women are vulnerable adults on a systemic scale across the globe. and it did so.