and i expect at this conference we're going to get more pledges of financial aid finance for africa but of course those loans come with potentially a very high economic price yet there is a growing concern particularly at the international monetary fund that more and more african countries are becoming infected to china a.j. at the i.m.f. says that around about a third of african countries could be in a position absolutely a.j. that's exactly what i was going to ask you about how does trying to deal with the skepticism then that is associated with this growing relationship with african countries we're all aware of the shiny reds in the bridges and the airports and everything but there is a loss of worry isn't there that the many of these projects a around sustainable insofar as they don't there's no transfer of technology mbaye that is just getting these african governments into into greater and greater debt. well china says that the debt that has been racked up by some of these countries is

not the result of money that has been lent by china they say it's a result of money that's been lent by others but yes certainly at the i.m.f. and also the united states state department there is a concern that more and more african countries are in a debt trap part of the problem they say is this that you know when african countries borrow from africa they have to offer some sort of collateral it might be you know gold mine diamond mine whatever and when they can't pay that money of course the net asset technically belongs to china all right for now adrian brown thank you very much indeed that's a form of course that lasted two days and no doubt we'll be talking to adrian quite a bit in that period of time. not want to come hear it out there including four months on from controversial elections the coalition finally comes together in iraq . across a mountain farmers struggling to revive land destroyed by volcanic ash.

how i was still got some very lively weather into central parts of here this area cloud is slowly making its way for the race with so still seeing quite a crop of showers some of them thundery around the outside around northern parts of the balkans pushing right up across tech republic into the baltic states and knotting a little further east with so warm weather coming in here as we go on through monday to the east of that more hot sunshine thirty celsius in kiev bequest to thirty two degrees the thirty four there for athens behind nazi bad getting up to twenty four in london and also in paris but in normally seen as we go on it's g.'s day maybe even east of north the temperatures then twenty degrees celsius it will feel noticeably fresh stay dry thirty two celsius there for madrid by choose day that west the weather will just make its way

a little further east was into hungary heading over towards rumania further south fine and dry warm sunshine right across the other side of the mediterranean every guy more that he car i thirty eight celsius tripoli at around thirty four degrees a little bit of cloud there just around the mountains of morocco and out is that should thin and bright by choose day warm sunshine coming in at this stage we're back to twenty five degrees celsius i'll just get up to thirty and a hot one inch units that's enough. as we embrace new technologies rarely do we stop to ask what is the price of this progress what happened was people started getting sick but there was a small group of people that began to think that maybe this was related to the. investigation reveals how even the smallest devices have deadly environmental and health costs we think ok we'll send our you waste to china but we have to remember

that air pollution travels around the globe death by design on al-jazeera. take a look at the top stories here at al-jazeera there's been widespread condemnation of amir markel physicians in jail to journalists. so whom were found guilty of possessing state secrets and sentenced to seven years behind bars the journalist say they were framed by the police. a state of emergency has been declared by the un backed government in libya after a week of fighting in the capital at least forty one people have been killed in the violence near tripoli one hundred others have been injured including many civilians

the chinese president xi jinping has promised african business leaders that investment doesn't come with political strings attached china has invested heavily in the continent in recent decades sparking concern that african countries are taking on too much debt. main story and that is the international condemnation of the jailing of the two reuters journalists. we can now speak to phil robertson i will talk to him in just a little while. because i just want to bring this to you these are the words of the u.s. ambassador to me a mascot marcial he said it's deeply troubling for everybody who has struggled so hard for media freedom and the british ambassador to mia maher said he was extremely disappointed by the verdict now we can speak to phil robertson he's the deputy asia director of human rights watch he's in bangkok phil so much

condemnation as to be expected human rights watch chief among them what exactly is human rights rights watch prepared to do to try to challenge this verdict. well i think we need to launch a global campaign working with media organisations and non-governmental organizations all around the world pulling in the governments pulling in the united nations and really make a common united front for the defense of these two journalists who clearly have been entrapped by the police but also for the larger principle of media freedom in myanmar because the situation is one where you know if there's no media freedom there's not going to be human rights and democracy for much longer absolutely so what do you think is the most important lesson that we learn about me i'm on today as a result of this. case and the. well it shows

that the burmese military is still pulling the strings in the judiciary this court case was one where you know ample evidence was provided that they were entrapped there were a number of police who said they were in fact told to entrap these two journalists but it didn't matter and people forget that this is a judiciary that operated for more than five decades under military control you know it is a judiciary that has a long way to go towards really independence and one of the supreme irony is if this case of course is the fact that these two journalists were reporting on a massacre which has actually been found to have taken place and those responsible have also faced justice haven't they so there's no question about the incident that these gen this way of reporting on it's just the entrapment that happened off to mints. that's exactly right actually what you'll see is that this case that these two journalists are working on is actually the only case where the berm is

military is actually admitted to human rights violations against the rohingya in the ethnic cleansing and crimes against humanity that the u.n. found there in it and the other ironic part of it is that these two journalists will probably spend more time in prison with this sentence than the military men who killed the ten rohingya we'll have to lately and these of course a little cool there benis there mia ma done the c. think that this is also trying to send a message to any of the this foreign janice in particular stay away and don't get involved well i think what it is is a targeting of the myanmar journalists working for international news organizations basically saying to them look you think you're working for a big western organization but we can still get you we can still come after you this is an intimidation tactic this is all about actually ensuring that the media freedom that has spread out in myanmar is limited and you know i think it raises

the larger issue of whether we're going to see a pivot back towards the more dictatorial past that burma seemed to have exchanged just just recently phil robertson of humor i just want to thank you well al jazeera journalist mahmud hussein is spent more than six hundred days behind bars in egypt without charge hussein is accused of broadcasting false news and receiving foreign funds to defame egypt state institutions he endowed his era strongly deny the allegations and the network is demanding his release. brazil's president says hundreds of years of history have been destroyed in a massive fire at the national museum the two hundred year old building in rio de janeiro was engulfed in flames as workers try to save some of the twenty million items inside may include human fossils and ancient egyptian artifacts a spokesman for the far department told

a news agency that efforts to fight the blaze were delayed because hydrants closest to the museum didn't have enough water. good to him. it's a loss for the world this can never be recovered for the people the building there's no way to get it back thankfully no one died but the loss can never be recovered and. we'll be you. know i just saw a piece of my history the house of the empire where the emperor don pads or the second of brazil used to live being destroyed i see the history of my country becoming ashes it has no price i am devastated there is almost four months since iraq's disputed parliamentary election and finally progress has been made to form a government eleven political groups have agreed to create an alliance to make the largest bloc in parliament iraq's election was held in may but a manual recount of the vote held up the formation of a government well the eleven groups including those loyal to the nationalist shia

cleric. whose bloc won the most votes in the election prime minister hyderabad his group is also part of that coalition and between them they have one hundred seventy seven members of parliament and that gives them an outright majority the main opposition looks set to be a mere is fatah alliance which includes many pro uranian former paramilitary fighters they secured forty eight seats in the election but they can count on seventy two votes because of an alliance with the former prime minister nouri al maliki well these two blocs will control more than two thirds of the three hundred twenty nine seats in iraq's parliament. now the me is the rector of middle east studies at the university of denver he says the stakes are high with the new alliance but iraq has a lot to be positive about. this is a coalition government that is the most inclusive and i would say representative

iraqi government since the two thousand and three american invasion it includes both iraqi shia sunni and members of various religious minorities and what's positive about that development is it marks a transition from previous iraqi governments that were very sectarian based most of the key players have a nationalist political agenda that is cured toward developing iraq for all iraqi citizens not catering to the ethnic or sectarian interest of one particular group so in that sense there's a lot to be optimistic about whether they can address the immense political social economic and environmental challenges that iraqi society is facing remains to be seen the stakes are are huge you know your rock is a failed state it's. been deeply affected by a sectarian war by the rise of isis which has been you know crushed but not

comprehensively i think defeated and some of the you know key challenges. that iraqis are facing are the normal things that developing societies struggle with unemployment corruption the delivering of public services in southern iraq for several months now there have been ongoing protests over the question of access to clean drinking water you know tens of thousands of iraqis have checked themselves into hospitals over water poisoning. and there's been no one that has been able to really you know stand up and address you know these issues the hope is that this new you know iraqi coalition government being much more inclusive and representative will begin to address these challenges. thousands of people in the yemeni city of aden have been burning tires and blocking roads in protest against the country's worsening economic situation the government's now announced

a temporary halt to import imports of luxury goods and has raised public sector salaries by thirty percent in an effort to prop up the economy the yemeni reale has lost more than half its value against the u.s. dollar says twenty fifteen well meanwhile exiled yemeni president added revenue mansour hadi is preparing to travel to the united states for treatment for a heart condition he's in the business audi arabia since the war began how do you will report it the stay in the u.s. until the u.n. general assembly meeting at the end of the month the u.n. refugee agency says crossing the mediterranean is getting increasingly dangerous for migrants trying to get to europe one in every eighteen people who try to make the journey so far this year has died in twenty seventeen that death rate was one in forty two the agency says there's been a fall in the overall number of attempted crossing but that people smugglers are

taking bigger risks. to people have been shot during anti-government protests in nicaragua they were wounded by unidentified gunmen in the capital managua tensions the mounting between pro and anti government factions for months recently president daniel ortega expelled a un human rights mission after its blamed his government for the violent crackdown on protesters activists say three hundred people have been killed in the unrest since april farmers in guatemala struggling to make ends meet two months on from a deadly volcanic eruption which destroyed much of their crops as david meserve reports from jim alta mangas field after field is still blanketed in a sick layer of ash and drugs. the rich black soil on the side of this volcano in guatemala is normally the stuff of farmers' dreams but knows firsthand that what

the volcano can provide in bountiful harvests it can just as quickly take away the deadly eruption in early june dumped tons of rocks an ash onto his field the twenty eight year old was counting on his corn harvest to feed his young family for the coming year but all was destroyed. a thought. that they had to think that. there was a layer of ash or thirty centimeters deep that was super hard like cement so all of that well it's off now because we've tried our best to work the ground but this corn won't give us anything like this plant here no cob no nothing. they represent of killed hundreds of people a few kilometers north of the scene of the disaster ash and volcanic rocks not only damaged thousands of hectares of corn and beans but also cash crops such as vegetables coffee avocado and fruit trees ronald is just one of fourteen thousand

smallholder farmers who lost their crops after june's volcanic eruption these people are already some of the country's most vulnerable and now they say they need help. in the highland town an hour away government help is starting to arrive guatemala's ministry of agriculture is providing shovels machetes and other tools to thousands of farmers official say that those who lost all their subsistence crops will also receive food assistance for up to three months. this is the agriculture ministry is first response but soon will be providing new coffee plants will also be giving away seed so farmers can replant their fields but these are medium term plans it will take two or three years to be able to recover these crops . in the meantime family is relying on public donations in order to survive their year had begun with such promise his family rented extra land and planted all the seeds that saved from previous year's harvest

in the hopes of getting ahead now they have nothing to show for their efforts. paying for corn means buying one hundred to two hundred pounds every month depending on the size of your family so you could be paying around fifty dollars a month for corn but often you only make twenty dollars and we both work i i mean. the money doesn't go far enough. despite the setback and his family are determined to get through the year ahead he and other farmers here have faith that the same volcanic ash that killed this year's harvest will help produce a bumper crop next year david mercer al-jazeera and the department of. what amalek . their attorney roy says journalists found guilty of illegally obtaining state secrets have been sentenced to seven years in prison. who were

arrested while investigating the death of ten ranger men at the hands of the security forces the un has said some military generals should be investigated for genocide. today's friday it's very disappointing not only for the moment for all of us on the lawyers for the press for. the people. who got it it's very disappointing for all of it is bad and it is better friends and it is bad for the for the. country. the luckily for the rule of law and for that freedom of press. and saving measures he's been declared by the u.n. backed government in libya after almost a week of fighting in the capital at least forty one people have been killed in the violence need tripoli one hundred others have been injured many of them civilians

forces backed by the government of national accord have lost several strategic locations to a breakaway faction. chinese president xi jinping has promised african business leaders that investment does not come with political strings attached he was speaking ahead of a major summit aimed at deepening ties between china and africa china has spent billions of dollars in the continent in recent decades bulking concern that some african countries are taking on too much debts brazil's president says hundreds of years of history have been destroyed in a massive fire at the national museum workers trying to save some of the twenty million items inside as a two hundred year old building was engulfed in flames the museum held some of the region's best preserved human fossils and ancient egyptian artifacts nearly four months after iraq's history to parliamentary election in progress is finally been made to form

a government right those are the latest headlines from us here at al-jazeera coming up next is inside story. unless we have new generations growing up to understand the nature of the natural then soon there will be nothing left and will suffer primatologist and conservationist dr jane goodall. it's been called an apparent war crime a saudi emirati air strike on a school bus the saudi led coalition admits it made a mistake but will anyone be held to account and who has the power to punish those responsible for such atrocities in yemen and elsewhere this is inside story.

hello and welcome to the program i'm good of that hamid this saudi iraqi coalition now says the attack on the bus was unjustified human rights watch called it an apparent war crime and is calling for an end to all weapons sales to saudi arabia fifty one people died forty of them children in the air strike inside a province last month the coalition is promising to hold those responsible to account this comes after a report by un experts accused all sides in the conflict in yemen including huth the rebels of committing war crimes more than ten thousand people have been killed in more than three years of fighting many thousands more from cholera and other diseases alan fischer reports from neighboring djibouti. it was an attack which threw international condemnation and left appearance of forty children crying over

their graves eleven others were also killed in the attack on a crowded market and who the hell diane in the north of yemen in early august initially the saudi led coalition claimed the attack was a justified military operation it was targeting the leaders know it says it made mistakes. that the joint team were based on the above information gathered it is of the opinion that the coalition forces should take legal action to try and penalize those responsible for these mistakes which cause collateral damage in that area these mistakes are as follows first delay in handling down the exact sheesh an order where the execution squadron should be waiting for the target to approach a clear area free of civilians to avoid unjustified collateral damage in line with the approved rules of engagement in article fifty seven of fifty eight of political one of the geneva convention and the studded norms seventeen and nineteen the findings came just days after two reports critical of the saudi led efforts in

yemen the u.n. panel of experts said that both sides in the conflict including the saudi coalition could be guilty of war crimes and human rights watch accused the saudi led coalition of feeling to investigate allegations of possible war crimes it said too often their inquiries like transparency credibility and did little to stop strikes hitting civilians. so the investigators see those responsible must be punished. the joint team is also of the opinion that the coalition forces should take necessary measures to immediately review and verify the rules of engagement approved by them to ensure the total compliance in all military operations in yemen there are suggestions the saudis and their allies have come under u.s. pressure to do more to cut the number of civilian casualties the surprise admission of mistakes may go some way to improving relations and peace talks are still planned to be hosted by the u.n. later this month. so

let's bring in meow guest now joining us from berlin bill van esveld is the senior researcher for the children's rights division at human rights watch but rashid band joins us from london he is middle east and north africa caseworker and the international new human rights ngo reprieve and from our more in sweden via skype from nancy senior nonresident fellow and get planty council a warm welcome to you all now. but let me start with you this saudis sort of gave an admission of error without going into too much details of what happened or who they were targeting do you see that as genuine well i mean i think regard this if it is genuine or not genuine i think the point is that they that there was and there was an investigation despite that in the past they said that the strike was a was justified and was. against a against

a target so i think the importance is that with the mounting pressure on the saudi led coalition eventually they did. they did investigate and admitted that the strike did indeed cause civilian casualties and in this case it was clear i was on a bus full of full of full of children and now what will happen next because of this this investigation i think it's this is where the question lies and i think it's still not clear there has been pressure even from the trump ministration for the first time when john mara said that not necessarily his support for the coalition is basically not necessarily unconditional so i think there are there is mounting pressure and i think the attempt is also not of to for the u.n. envoy not to fail in his attempt for the coming peace round of peace talks in

geneva. but i'm not sure how far can you go well a frog the sound is also say that they will hold accountable who contributed to this error but isn't that a way of sort of absolving the leadership from any wrongdoing and trying to pin it on maybe one or a small group of individuals is just a pain killer we've seen this from the saudi led coalition and other crimes so the school attack is not the only crime that was committed thankfully because it was recorded on video and also it was followed by a report from the you and the panel of experts but. nothing has ever been done and nothing followed this amount of pressure or this can diminish in or admit the saudi led coalition admitting their wrong doing nothing concrete has ever

been done after such a trend of condonation so i think we need to pressure governments and allies of the saudi led coalition for the. saudi arabia and united arab emirates and that i mean u.k. and the the u.s. they have to be directly in war in pressuring. the saudi led coalition in order to find a peace process and end the war words and comden condemnation never really materialized in yemen justice never been served to the victims and nothing has ever been done well bill i think that's what human rights watch is actually arguing in his latest statement that if you want to stop the atrocities in yemen then western powers should start to stop selling weapons to disavow these one might argue is that really feasible. do you think it's realistic in any shape or form well i think it's

not only realistic but actually legally necessary i mean if you have a military partner who consistently conducts on lawful the tax some of which appear to amount to work crimes again and again and again and you argue like the u.s. has actually argued that selling the saudi led coalition more weapons will reduce civilian casualties it is extremely hard to take that statement at face value but it's not just a question of is it politically feasible it's legally required because if you continue to supply somebody who's conducting unlawful attacks with knowledge of that you also could be responsible criminally for for complicity in the in those unlawful attacks so the united states the united kingdom and france need to stop immediately they need to they need to have stopped already so we need to stop more atrocities from happening and in addition to that we need justice for the victims

barat the attack on a school bus is a tragic one but it wasn't the first one and one could even probably say it won't be the last one where you would have in this in civilian is dying because of this war calling for investigations doesn't really change anything underground really it's a completely there's two separate dynamics there you have the fighting and then you have what international community is trying to do which probably from a yemeni perspective might sound like a lot of words and no action. well i mean i think the the investigations. or forming any new macan isms in the too soon to investigate what's happening in yemen is only effective of how much actually the fighting parties are willing to cooperate and how much are they willing to to engage with with such

with such a process and i think it is unfortunate for us as yemenis that it comes at a situation where the first of all the security council is quite divided over many matters just yemenis it becomes becomes in the on this side venture over this ongoing conflict happening at the international level and also i think for example when the constant argument of arms of arms sales to saudi arabia this is a very very small parts of the of the of the of the of the narrative it does help ease to portray this entire conflict as this is a saudi war lead on them or in on on yemen but this regards the civil war that was happening even before as a result of the coup that they staged along with the help of the former with the former president but between all of those for example the whose leaders have been

sanctioned yet it has. been sanctioned even by the security council but actually had little effect on their ability to move and their ability actually to bring in more weapons into the country the u.s. also considered this as this is part of a big picture because the if these do. help iran in increasing its influence in the region and at the same time you have you have the saudis trying to push back the push back to fifty's so the discussion really about what's happening in yemen the civil war that's happening in yemen and the transitional period that followed the arab spring that. becomes just a side talk to everything that's going on the bigger picture if you'd like to if you'd like to say there are a frog just want to touch on what you said earlier because i mean there's been. disallowed acknowledgement earlier there was a un report. stating that war crimes have been perpetrated in yemen by all sides now human rights watch has a report and it has been going on for

a few years so the intention of underlining the horrors of what's happening in yemen is there but what is lacking is there a mechanism that doesn't exist or is it difficult to actually implement that mechanism. so if you talk to an ordinary yemeni who is facing you know the speakable human suffering and yemen they literally lost any hope or faith in the international community or international humanitarian law was because none of that has ever been you know of the interest of yemenis the when the war started the so delayed question mobilised states at the u.n. security council and came into giving legitimacy to their intervention in yemen so we saw an international can isn't being you know in effect. to wage a war but when let's take the u.n.

panel of experts when the u.n. human rights human rights council tried to establish this international committee independent international committee committee to go and investigate the war crimes in yemen it took it like attempts and three rounds of. voting. member states because the u.s. and u.k. . started the voting in the beginning in the second time and then the third time so it seems like. yemenis or any kind of advocacy trying to end the war and using international you have to fight two hundred percent in order to get not just ten percent and that's with making you know the true long of the war and the poor long of the suffering and people reading lost hope and that's a pattern actually that happens in many conflicts around the world the un spoken to

several significant reports on conflicts a recent one for example recommended top military figures in myanmar be investigated for the genocide in the rock and state and in the war in syria the acid government has been accused of using chemical weapons on a number of occasions south sudanese government forces and its allies were accused of potential war crimes for a campaign of rape and killing that targeted civilians in opposition held villages and one of the most controversial you and reports was by judge richard goldstone covering israel's attack on gaza in two thousand and eight report accuse both hamas and israel of war crimes and deliberately targeting civilians well bill human rights watch and are due again as they should also have a very detailed reports from around the world but it seems that each time you guys come up with such a report the response from the various government is either that they're protecting

their national interest or outright accusing such organizations of wanting to create chaos in the country of lions and in some guy's case even that you workers are spies in between brackets that must be make it very difficult for you it is difficult and i should say it's difficult for us who have the relative luxury of being an international human rights organization think of how much more difficult and dangerous it is for human rights organizations on the ground in yemen . who go and do this work day in day out they try to be impartial and independent very great risk to themselves and they have to do that their job is absolutely crucial because. other other organizations amnesty international human rights watch it's very difficult for us to get into yemen to get on the ground this is one reason why countries around the world have gone to support an extension of the

mandate of the united nations inquiry it's independent it's a political it looks at violations by both sides it's absolutely true that the who the side has also committed very serious violations but despite all of the frustrations i should say there have been some positive steps and i'm talking about weapons supplies from other countries germany. norway have cut off weapon supplies to the coalition other countries like sweden and belgium have limited them or only licensing them on a case by case basis that's even further evidence to show that the united kingdom's in the united states continuing enthusiastic supply of weapons to military partners who have shown again and again that they are going to use those weapons and kill civilians irresponsibly and then not investigate there's no excuse for that continued weapon supply and it has to stop well i guess that's the core of the issue here how to rb trade between the national interest of

a country in this case for example selling weapons and a reality underground now but let me put that question for you this saudi have been a very good let's say at could surely the message coming out of yemen ever is this is war started they know exactly who goes in and who comes out of the country and they make it extremely difficult for journalists and n.g.o.s so how much do we actually really know about what happens there and the extent of the abuses that happens probably that happened probably on a daily basis on this of it. i mean i would quite quite disagree actually the messaging that has been coming out of yemen really doesn't help the saudis. for for many reasons i think first of all that the saudis haven't been able to convince the public if you'd like to say i wouldn't said i got an international level but

special especially public opinion here at the u.k. or at the united states where actually they are who supply those those weapons that actually they are doing a good job in a good job in yemen but i think quite quite quite the opposite who sees have been able to hide behind this fact and actually the also the fact that the saudi arabia has don't have a good record in promoting human rights principles and democracy in in in general but that actually did help the who he is to hide behind that fact and commit more atrocities inside yemen and other than that also it was able enable them actually to hide the cause of the conflict which is the coup that started in september two thousand and two thousand and fourteen today i think hardly anyone mention mention that that coup or actually what would happen to the to the to the yemeni people the the the international mccann isms again i think sometimes they are necessary or

sometimes it is important to put pressure as we saw with the coalition for example finally admitting to this specific specific incident but there is also a lot of a lot of a lot of limitations i mean international investigations or committees formed to in during the times before don't have actually a good record around around around the war they are only good when if you'd like to say after the conflict is over after the the warring parties come maybe to the to the table and finalize a finalize a deal but during the the conflict saudi arabia if you didn't buy weapons from. the united kingdom it would go to the united states and if even the united states stopped it could go to other places russia is willing to sell as much as well weapons if not more to the to the to the to the saudis and imagine like if three years and you're only able to convince germany and belgium and sweden to stop

weapons how many years you'd like to come and how many years you you would want actually to stop the arms flow going to the who's these are actually get their weapons from iran and the and the russians and they're really not really committed to international international norms so i think all of this is put in stake here for the united states is that actually. if it doesn't support what it considers one of its most important allies in the region that would directly benefit the iranians at this this is the thinking of some of the policy makers in d.c. and when you reflect that at the security council it does create a security council the council that is very much divided about the situation in in i'm just wondering why i don't think i'm sorry to jump in we were talking earlier about conflicts elsewhere i mean i read a few here. there is a pattern yes there are investigations yes people or if she chooses all governments

are found guilty but we haven't rarely seen anyone who's actually facing justice. or maybe some in africa would argue actually the international criminal court is only there for them what what mechanism can we have i mean for example. at the moment no one is being held accountable or not is being held accountable yes but no one is facing justice for anything i think that's that's that's something i mean there is no such of limitations but i actually a lot of the a lot of international law is also alike it's accumulation of practice. whether you like it or not the states do learn from each other so when people don't see that actually there has been accountability held in one part of the world that does has its effect on other and other parts of fragile want to bring into this conversation and briefly. this idea of holding. people or entities

accountable i mean i think some would feel quite comfortable even if there's a damning report that comes out they know that it set off an outcry it will come and will go and nothing will happen isn't that a bit one of the biggest issues here i'm very proud this a mistake when it comes to bringing justice and you know certain individuals or groups or of governments accountable to the crimes and atrocities committed in yemen but the question now is were ok what is the alternative it is to. do diplomacy in finding any sort of peace process and again as i said and the beginning of the program we need to include american and british diplomacy directly involved in creating peace

process and yemen and not just leave it to the u.n. special envoy i really appreciate his efforts and the way he's trying to be inclusive and comprehensive to the different dynamics of the conflict in yemen but we need to feast on the big elephant in the room. and that is there are super powers that are responsible for the tragedy and young men and they have to come and fix it so i think we're going on around the world and in any conflicts people will also blame it on. other superpowers depending where you are but bill at the end of the day your job is very important in at least a document or what's going on usually conflicts end up with peace talks and most of this these horrors just get brushed under the table is that a huge issue why at the end of the day you never have

a real and two conflicts in this and the keep on simmering because there is no accountability there is no reconciliation after that it makes it very difficult to face the future. yes absolutely i mean unfortunately real truth and reconciliation and accountability after conflict is often the exception rather than the rule if we don't however continue to do investigations as the conflict is raging even if there is no justice at the moment there will never be a possibility of justice in the future and if we're talking about criminal justice it can take a long time it will not reach most perpetrators but we have seen examples of course where very high level perpetrators have been put on trial and where human rights organizations have played a role in that it can take you know five ten fifteen years after the fact but human rights watch for example has been involved in the trials of milosevic and is sent. and you know if it wasn't for the documentation of us and local organizations we

would never have got there i mean what we have got to see. is is and and what we have to see is increased pressure from the populations of countries like the united states and the u.k. against these continued weapon sales that are happening in their name and we are actually seeing a bit of movement on that issue in the united states congressional resolutions against arms sales to saudi arabia haven't succeeded but they have gained more support than we have seen for restrictions on weapon sales to many other countries we're not there yet but this is not the time to give up we have to keep the pressure on well certainly put it people living in those conflict zones as a certain degree of frustration because they'd like to see these investigations taken further but we have reached the end of our shows or thanks to all our guests bill as veiled but. not so and thank you too for watching you can see the program again any time by visiting our website al-jazeera dot com and will for

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today is a sad day for me and maher reuters journalists. and the press everywhere. widespread condemnation after to reuters journalists is sentenced to seven years in prison for breaching mere mile state secrets law.

hello welcome to our there live from doha. coming up. four months on from controversial elections a coalition comes together in iraq. a state of emergency in libya after days of fierce battles between rival groups. president she welcomes african leaders jane is concerned groans that china's help is driving the continent deeper into. this found guilty of illegally obtaining state secrets have been sentenced to seven years in jail cool to me and my wall loan and. were arrested whilst investigating the killing of ten ranger men buy me a mall security forces the case has been seen as

a test of mammals approach to press freedom the generals who weigh the software emissions where the killings took place are among those the un says should be investigated for genocide. you know this is unfair i want to say they are obviously threatening our democracy and destroying freedom of press in our country we will face the situation calmly and the best way we can we are afraid of nothing as we did nothing wrong well the european union has demanded the journalists unconditional release it says the sentence undermines media freedom when haiti has more from bangkok. the whole case from the prosecution centered around top secret sensitive documents that they said while lone inch or so who had at the time of their arrest in december last year the police and the prosecution say those documents if they found their way into the wrong hands into the hands of terrorists as they said could be

a threat to the national security of me and but the defendants and their lawyers say that it was a set up that they were framed they were given those papers by the police and then moments later those very same police turned around and arrested them in december last year clearly there has been international condemnation of this verdict seven years in jail for both of the reuters journalist we've heard from the u.s. ambassador to me a mascot marcial saying it is deeply troubling for everybody who has struggled so hard here for media freedom also the british ambassador to. saying we are extremely disappointed by this verdict for now it is all eyes on me and my state council on sun sujit for so long a campaigner for freedom of speech for democracy for human rights in myanmar well now she's effectively leading the country but she remained largely silent throughout this trial saying that the judiciary the judicial course must be played

out in that there's an independent judiciary in me and well now the verdict has been handed down and they've been sentenced to seven years in jail who government has the ability now to pardon the reuters journalists right now we can speak to kevin kerr leakey who is royce's regional editor for asia he was actually at the courthouse earlier he's joining us live now from young go on via skype thank you for talking to us these men have already been in jail for some time at great considerable personal cost tell us about them the two individuals involved. that's right while an interest who have already been written off for it is separated from the family is the family home as soon as a young daughter who is wanted and could see her father in court well aware of the most of the past year when the loan had some more important he's never. would have

the days of an injustice heartbreak people are families that threatens the freedom of press. and more and they can't people think that what is reuters preparing to do in the next stage of this battle to have your two employees released. this has been a goodish a process with respect to dish across as we present the case a compelling case and any fair reading of the evidence the trial and shows that long term so innocent and today's verdict unfortunately provides for tragically the guys who are those in the police we suspect not real them on a mass killing me and then i'm. right i'm staying for several years ago there was a story on the shows they were the forensic on of their arrests clearly very graphic and i was trying to. write it indeed that the very incident that they were reporting on has been proved to have been accurate and

indeed those responsible have been sentenced to jail haven't they but what is royce is preparing to do now in terms of the appeal process in terms of lho being because i would imagine that it's going to come down to some serious khalid lobby on the pot over i says as well as other interested agencies to try to put pressure increase the pressure upon the suci in particular. it's only been a few hours since we had a verdict and yet on this report. you've already seen it widespread and uniform international response well to what happened today we want to talk to the families with warriors and advise appears and we want to pursue every avenue the billable to us the government of myanmar now has an opportunity and responsibility to do the right thing and to free our colleagues to fear from gollum but you have any faith in the judicial system in mammal today why couldn't i think

it been clear we could more then. object to the verdict today no fair reading of the trial on words at today's this is. not a crime the famous m.r. safeguards a free press what happened today is a threat to that. free press that any democracy that part kevin kelly kay thank you very much indeed for joining us live via skype from a young girl me i'm just sitting thanking. john this mahmoud to say this have all than six hundred days behind bars in egypt without charges saying is accused of broadcasting force news and receiving foreign funds to defame egypt's state institutions he and there are strongly deny the allegations and the network is demanding his release. now almost four months after iraq's disputed parliamentary election and progress has finally been made towards

forming a government this is the scene live from the iraqi parliament in the capital baghdad which is shuttle to begin its first session since those elections in just a little while from now on as you can see m.p.'s are rather slowly gathering and assembling a coalition of eleven political groups now appears to have sufficient strength to elect a speaker and to form a government and these are things that are due to take place soon in this first. meeting of parliament since the election it was held in may the election but it was a manual recount that held up the formation of a new government another hashimi is director of middle east studies at the university of denver and he says the stakes are high for the new alliance. this is a coalition government that is the most inclusive and i would say representative iraqi government since the two thousand and three american invasion it includes both

iraqi shia sunni and members of various religious minorities and what's positive about that development is it marks a transition from previous iraqi governments that were very sectarian based most of the key players have a nationalist political agenda that is cured toward developing iraq for all iraqi citizens not catering to the ethnic or sectarian interest of one particular group so in that sense there's a lot to be optimistic about whether they can address the immense political social economic and environmental challenges that iraqi society is facing remains to be seen the stakes are are huge you know your rock is a failed state it's. been deeply affected by a sectarian war by the rise of isis which has been you know crushed but not comprehensively i think defeated and some of the you know key challenges. that

iraqis are facing are the normal things that developing societies struggle with unemployment corruption the delivering of public services in southern iraq for several months now there have been ongoing protests over the question of access to clean drinking water you know tens of thousands of iraqis have checked themselves into hospitals over water poisoning. and there's been no one that has been able to really you know stand up and dress you know these issues the hope is that this new you know iraqi coalition government being much more inclusive and representative will begin to address these challenges. a state of emergency has been declared by the u.s. backed government in libya after almost a week of fighting in the capital at least forty one people have been killed in the violence in and around tripoli one hundred others have been injured many of them civilians forces backed by the government of national accord have lost several

strategic locations so a breakaway faction armed groups are battling for territory near the city's only functioning airport. reports now from tripoli. has he's in mourning. a stray rocket killed two of his nephews when they were playing in this garden they were fifteen and fourteen years old he said as. the boys were torn apart by the rock at their pleasure is scattered everywhere why is that it just came down from a sky we don't know where it was launched from. the explosion was huge say eyewitnesses sure up near flow in all directions and damages everything seven days of fighting between rival armed groups have taken a heavy toll on civilians. the seventh infantry brigade from the city of hona and

its allies from the city of misrata have recaptured civil as threat t.g. cloke asians in the southern suburbs of tripoli the armored groups that have the support of the you and backed government of national accord have retreated to the city center random shells have a strike everywhere here a rocket penetrated the ceiling despite this terkel turkey says his family was lucky they were gathered in another room when their architected saw. everything shattered into pieces and smoke was stored banned for the night when everybody was screaming my biggest concern is look for the kids and get them away as civilians have been killed or wanted by stray rockets during the past week but it is not known exactly who was firing then and rival on with groups battling

for control.