tv NEWSHOUR Al Jazeera September 11, 2018 9:00pm-10:01pm +03
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circuits relied on the use of hundreds if not thousands of very toxic chemicals and that's why they have clean rooms that's why they have bunny suits to try to protect the chips it was never designed to protect the workers it was always designed to protect the product itself or my god those of a lot of different chemicals they built the disk drives we had to strip them out and then would literally have to dip a mint in severe gas and with a sponge and just with arm with severe to have you know what it was it's i just knew it stunk really bad and you couldn't get it on your skin because it would burn you like nobody's business what would happen was people started getting sick was very strange kinds of illnesses things that didn't seem to make a lot of sense and didn't seem to hang together but increasingly as this happened more and more there was a small group of people that began to think that maybe this was related to the chemical exposure on the job. one put music on yeah right go and
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turn on the music for mom that's some good music on today. right there. but this time you know there's a thing i tried to do. in the thing yes. and one nine hundred seventy five i was eighteen years old and i started working in the electronics field i went to spector physics and they just hired me just like that i was making the end of the laser and i would have to mix up this chemical and i used to call it green go. and get the consistency and then put into a spray gun and i would have to heat that up after a glued on together that was just all the way that i did.
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yvette didn't know the material she was using turns out to be probably in the vicinity of fifty percent lead outside she didn't know she was exposed to lead in tell her that i got pregnant with mark in one nine hundred seventy nine and that was full term my months and weirdness really happy about it. that he doesn't even know to cross the street and not know a car is coming to stop going to the restroom you know i have to go with him in there so i have to a system where everything is number one or you better know and if i knew what i know now i woulda ran out of spec or physics at the time it was unnecessary it just. breaks my heart that i could avoid it this. oh we're filing this lawsuit against your employer and it's a lawsuit for his son who was born with severe developmental disabilities and it's
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a suit concealment of systemic chemical poisoning and case of a vet and for the direct injuries to mark. marks condition isn't like a cold take antibiotics and you're going to be fine in five days this is life. your love just overrides all that and you do what you gotta do to stay i still do that i'm sorry getting. but. i discovered i.b.m. had a corporate mortality. which they kept for thirty years and it kept track of the causes of deaths of their employees the most dramatic findings were about cancer for the company as a whole this was thirty three thousand deaths that were the scope of mortality files or included people who had worked all over the us. but then when you look at
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specific plants like the i.b.m. plant in san jose there was some extraordinary excess causes of death one was brain cancer the other was not hard can some form or another was melanoma of the skin and in the women breast cancer was three and four fold higher than expected. that was the heart of this san jose lawsuit. in a santa clara courtroom today the first trial out of more than two hundred similar lawsuits filed against i.b.m. former i.b.m. workers jim moore and allied hernandez say they developed cancer from exposure to toxic chemicals at i.b.m. san jose facility in the late seventy's or early ninety's i mean literally tried to prevent the results of the tally analysis from ever seeing the light of day in fact they went to the judge and said this can't be used in this case a lot of hernandez's not dead she's going to be in the court room and not only was
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it not relevant the judge said it it might prejudice the jury if they saw what these excess costs deaths were and so he denied use of it in the court many of the brands will respond questions by saying no one has ever proved to me that a single person has died from exposure to these chemicals either within inside their factories or outside of the factories and of discussion but that's not the way that we approach environmental or occupational health in the world. we are not flying blind here at all especially on the chemicals at issue here in the electronics industry actually and most of the common chemical used in all industrial manufacturing we've been at this work for forty years. if you look at the publicising generated by again you would think that we lost everything and that's simply not correct. after the trial i.b.m.
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matters were resolved for hundreds of people whose claims did not go to trial. what can you tell us about the settlements. i'm not going to be able to talk about any of the resolutions of the cases and i won't. can you give any details at all did you have to agree not to reveal the details as part of the settlement all i can say is that the matters were resolved that's what i'm allowed to say. here in silicon valley chip companies in the other electronics production companies used hundreds if not thousands of toxic chemicals and most of the chemicals
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once they're used in making the components needed to be disposed of as waste the companies ended up storing them in underground storage tanks all over the valley. but what the brilliant people who were designing these systems didn't quite think through all the way was that the solvent swear really good at dissolving things and so when you put them into a tank eventually they're going to eat their way through the tank. solvent that the electronics industry used in production in silicon valley in the seventy's and eighty's are now on in the groundwater and if you think about putting a drop of ink in a bathtub. that spreads really quickly and it's really hard to get that dropping back that's what we're dealing with except we're dealing with multiples of gallons of the stuff that is in the groundwater. in late one thousand nine hundred one
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there were over one hundred families in one little neighborhood who had serious problems and the state health department discovered that the families that were drinking the most heavily contaminated water had significantly higher rates of miscarriages and birth defects then did people in other neighborhoods with a chemical industry will often say if i had not a dime for every time i heard this but even water can kill you then those non toxic thing of course it can but only if you stick your face down in the bathtub or fall into a you know fall into a large body of water. so that has the traditional approach to toxicology is that the more stuff you're exposed to the more harm it causes you but what we're seeing in particularly around cancer and around hormone disrupting chemicals is that it's when you're exposed to at the time of exposure so if you're in third trimester and you get even a perp or billion or part petroleum exposure it can actually cause significant
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damage. we formed this silicon valley tuxes coalition and we did a summer organizing project getting people to sign petitions asking the e.p.a. step in with their authority in the superfund program yesterday. yes. yes. and i went to a meeting in washington and presented these thousands of petitions saying we need e.p.a. to come in it's time for e.p.a. to exercise your authority and to everybody's great surprise they agreed to do that . so hewlett packard became a superfund site until became a superfund site national semiconductor advanced micro devices i.b.m. you name it they were there and they were all superfund sites.
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the cost of cleanup for i.b.m. as well as all the other companies has been tremendous it's an enormously slow and tedious process. if you look right over here also this is a major residential neighborhood just directly across the street from this industrial site. most of the people living here today are unaware of this huge toxic plume. and those same chemicals that are still right under where we're standing are now beginning to seep back up out of the groundwater through the soil and are actually coming into the offices of these software engineers a google. and this is the one that e.p.a. said might take three hundred years to clean up. this is so complicated the devastation is so enormous that we're really talking centuries of cleanup not just years or decades. the problem is that it
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just keeps reoccur. please when companies started moving away from silicon valley to china i think that they were the only too happy to have the government off their backs and. the chinese government made an offer to multinational corporations that they couldn't refuse. you need a land and you need money and you need government approval and you need lots of people to put it all together well they have all of that in china. this is. just. release. saying at. least.
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one of the primary purposes of outsourcing is to enable companies like apple to make what are essentially an reasonable demands on manufacturers that they wouldn't and couldn't make if they actually had to employ the workers directly apple doesn't have to worry about what it means to workers when they insist on a tripling of the pace of iphone production. to. sons of those who. come in the new. ball. anyway focused on this is you. know you can see as you go by the one you don't we see you know some of the.
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we. do they will sit and have. to do for jennifer how much paul. don't let me go. so we don't know what if it would be good good to go do this and you were telling you put in the time no. snow. in the sun sun to constantly. sorry about it in school is. good to know that you. know it's easy to do so because that is so. basic. so good about themselves. so some of the.
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was shot outdoors cycling disillusioned with the state prosecution and the victim's sister strikes up an unlikely relationship with the accused letters to serial killer a witness documentary on al-jazeera. the latest news as it breaks these people are already some of the country's most vulnerable and now they say they need help with details coverage here in gaza more than most places the contrast between scenes like this and the realities of daily life for so many from around the world forty years ago it was all but impossible for a foreign man or woman to live in china let alone marry a chinese but today marriages like this are no longer exceptional. overthrown and exiled they appoint say sure all this race in which he knew an intimate film about the struggle of the elected leader of madagascar to return to
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his country and reinstate his presidency you know is that the truth. and. nothing to do you think is. true change things return of a president on al-jazeera. hello i'm a fiend in this endeavor and these are the top stories here it is there are two separate suicide attacks targeting large gatherings have hit nangarhar province in afghanistan the first happened daraa district where around eight hundred people had gathered to demonstrate against the local police at least ten people were killed and forty others were injured the second blast was in the provincial capital jalalabad where at least nineteen people died. publicised chief negotiator has
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accused the us of doing israel's bidding by allowing more illegal settlements and cutting desperately needed aid to palestinians so other cat says the u.s. has left the negotiating table while breaking its own commitments that were made by president trump last year and to visit set up makeshift homes in the palestinian village in the occupied west bank in defiance of an israeli court order to evict people from the area high court judges approved the clearing of the village last week saying there's no evidence to prove the buildings are illegal israel wants to relocate the bedouin tribes that lives there to an area next to a landfill delegations from russia iran and turkey a meeting in geneva for a second day of talks on syria the talks come amid concerns over the looming battle over the rebel held on klav vidlin the u.n. says thousands of people have been displaced in the province because of continued
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syrian government and russian airstrikes. china's president xi jinping has met the russian president vladimir putin and. during the economic forum president xi said both countries should oppose protectionism that. china trade. sanctions against russia south korea's president. says he wants to ease tension along the border with north korea president will visit later this month for his third meeting with north korea's leader kim jong il. the leaders of ethiopia and eritrea celebrating the reopening of a joint border crossing for the first time since they fought a war twenty years ago the border paris is on the main road linking both nations the conflict began in one thousand nine hundred. ten thousands of people were killed right up to date those are the latest headline says death by design.
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well panel doesn't move for companies in the fall down season is obviously youngest the boss to do it has died and fifteen others were injured after an explosion at a foxconn factory in chengdu southwest china the details here too subtle from john king but you know just a little whole way that all students occurred at around seven pm in a polishing woodshop it appears to have been triggered by an explosion of combustible dust in a duct. no one should be surprised that aluminum dust if it's in a high enough concentration and there is an ignition source it will produce explosion and fire this is a hazard which is extremely well known. so the fact that apple suppliers have an explosion in chengdu in the plant means that they had very poor
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housekeeping very poor production processes that's terrible. what's completely unacceptable is that five months later at another plant within the apple supply chain they had another explosion and fire. its outrageously inexcusable that they had a second one five months later. they set up these supply chains exactly the way they want them they monitor these private chains with exacting scrutiny so they know exactly what's going into their products at every point along the way.
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here. we have a town hall i fix the guns and i'll show you how. to i have an i phone five here and i'm a show you a little bit about what's inside what makes it take and some of the design choices that apple made putting it together to the first thing out paul has on the bottom is to proprietary penta loeb screws this is a security screw the apple designed to keep people out of the phone once you get the phone open we can start to see the guts. this isn't really a phone it's pretty much a full blown computer that can make your phone last for eight hours or you need a really big battery. batteries and phones last about four hundred charges every cell phone i have ever had to pop the back off you can pull the battery out swap a new battery and every year or two you have to replace the battery apple has decided with the i pod and now the i phone that they don't like that model so what
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they are doing is building the batteries in the phone and using proprietary screws on there and attempt to limit the lifespan of the phone to about eighteen months which is around the time when they have a new phone and they want you to buy a new one anyway. i think says a company that wants to see everything get fixed so we show people how to fix things and provide the parts tools and guides to enable them to do so helping everyone fix everything so that's the challenge it's a big challenge because there's millions of devices out there and luke and i are reluctant capitalists we get excited selling screwdrivers even though that seems like a boring product because we're selling people a capability with able to do something that they wouldn't have otherwise we want to make it simple and easy for people to repair their own stuff. the amount of raw materials that go on the products that we use are stagnant over five hundred pounds around material go into making in a down south. so here's an example of
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a circuit board in this you waste bin this is out of apple laptop from a few years ago even if you make this circuit board in the most environmentally friendly way it's still going to use a ton of water a ton of money probably literally a ton of water lots and lots of materials. when we know of or most of you know. nothing is different. electronics industry is close the ways that through this the american manufacturers are. they're selling a thing and they're saying well you have it but you don't really own it. there's no way we're ever going to. ford would never say. we're not going to make tires available to keep your car running after thirty thousand miles you have an entire ecosystem an entire industry that's built on secrecy and. that's trying to pry open
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the show people what's inside. and we've kind of been conditioned by manufacturers and brands to leave yourself on the outside don't worry about the details we make this product we give it to you and you just use this product and when it stops working you go buy a new one. when we originally started my fix it was just a way to provide people with some solution to fix broken devices. and over time we've realized both the manufacturing and the environmental problems are all huge concern. over the last few years i've been to china on a regular basis a lot of data related to our tool manufacturing. we're looking at getting
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circuit boards manufactured. this is the big rechargeable battery and this is the main circuit board in here so considering it's just a flashlight you can see it's a surprisingly complex circuit board and i've got these basic schematic of the circuit board once we decide i'm going to leave them with me and has been. finding this supplier that is environmentally friendly has good quality and has reasonable pricing all three of those at once is probably going to be a challenge. for the next photo.
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visiting factories we've found that it's surprisingly effective to show up on short notice. in general any factory of it's not willing to let you see the factory is an immediate red flag at least for someone that we don't want to do business with. this is the big line. the factory said this is where they're edging it bringing all these nasty acids and other chemicals in. you've got a little bit of acid believe here you can see gilboa acid on the outside in the machine. i walked over to where there were some storage tanks and it was basically assets all over the floor and the moment i looked over that they told me get back away from here and this isn't giving me
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a good feeling. as far as making sure everything's done correctly environmentally it doesn't seem like that's a priority for them. and they got them out river and. the fact that it was so dear to you is the price you have to pay for the last thirty years of development you. don't want to buy from them. what do the somebody. from what about incentives to. the gods just by. putting on. one. hundred. percent so will the
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store so i say she brings mice in that would tend to buy them just. as what the idea what that. meant some were gone so that. you know by now you seem to. suddenly and so when we. do it's a typical high profit. by your budget don't you think you. do see. that it is constantly changing. them all the. time.
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this is definitely the most professional of the factories visited. the fact that we're being taken through this water treatment facility is a really promising sign. you start out with incredibly yucky water and it goes through a progressive series of filters and other processes and eventually you end up with hopefully acceptably clean water. the coolest thing when the water is coming through the treatment facility some of the water comes out and dumps into this and they have been here in the factory owner said well they know the water treatment is working ok as long as the fish are still alive a little unfortunate for the fish because if something breaks maybe the fish die
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but it's clear to me that this would definitely be a factory to buy from up the one we visited. from the institute of public and environmental affairs ma june. thank you ladies and gentlemen i'm truly honored and humbled to be the first chinese citizen to receive the scole award i was tough i set up this institute of public on your bar medal affairs ip and our first project is to to butte a national water pollution database. though this records comes from the government
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sources the public can access the information by click on the locations on the map because people want to know you know who should be held responsible for such a bat what a pollution situation and so far we got some more than one hundred and ten thousand records of violations in our database. in april two thousand and ten we file letters to twenty nine by t. brands to check with them whether those polluting factories whether they are their suppliers. all of them responded except the one that is an apple. apple just give us one statement that is we have a long term policy not to disclose our supply chain. not to.
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my june contacted me and we began to work together to apply additional pressure to a company with headquarters here in the united states my insurance singled out a number of facilities that he believed were in apple such that it had a very heavy environmental impact in their locality and when he level of those charges apple was shot and is sort of in denial that this type of problem out to this extent could really exist in their supply chain. i think it's important to understand that this is not just about apple you know this is about the id industry. they all share printed circuit board manufacturers they all share chip manufacturer is you know despite their audit
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protocols there is a lot more talk than walk on environmental impacts in the supply chain you say to yourself how could they not know about any of these problems but you know it's it's always you ask and it's all you look for so if you are there and you have a checklist of what you needed then you need it now and that checklist does not include what's going on at the end of the pipe of your wastewater treatment plant it's actually conceivable that you know exactly where it's being made you just don't know exactly how it's being made and what the impact is. that's what's going on not just with apple but with all of these companies. forty years of operating the environmental protection agency in this country these are american based companies hard to believe. we still have this industry which is discharging so much waste not just normal waste a hazardous waste. in just one supplier to
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generate more than one hundred thousand tons of hazardous waste in one year. how could we dispose stuff you know in a safe way so how much a time bomb this industry's gonna create. in electronics at this moment in time i believe we're in the dinosaur age. we're using too many resources too many raw materials and the life of a computer is a typically three to four years. for a small company in r.
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and. a mission is to choose a fair trade computer. in the early days i repaired this component levels on the computers and one imports. from i noticed that too was huge amount of waste in the computer industry. so we started designing and building up to date range and reuse with computers. this is my father's environmental drill and all my trusty and just you know it's just it's just. how can you build a computer without plastic how could you build a computer without lead mercury p.v.c.'s brominated flame returns and all the other heavy metals. that was our gold
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the material we use is wood so it's technology of one hundred years ago but it's perfectly good our computers will last seven to ten years because home users non-technical people can repair and replace i'm never place in the memory you can extend the life of it by upgrade ability. today is is there a major launch in europe. we've lots of invites and to people. we were awarded the world's first european. for integrated desktop computer it was the world's first ever achieve this award that time i thought wow the the gates would open with orders so flood fuss that was not the case maybe
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a little bit of naive essay on my part it's hard out there like government agencies some people like that there is no room for environmental they are totally just bottom line. i'm looking at it now it's one little step at a time the what we need to do is it work harder build more computers and get people to join us. americans toss out a lot of gadgets every day. if we look at the three million or so tons of electronic waste that gets generated the united states every year probably fifteen percent of that gets recycled. and some percent of that gets recycled in a responsible fashion. she's
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waste of china let them burn it let them have the pollution but we have to remember that air pollution travels around the globe. that pollution is getting lofted into the atmosphere and coming right back to us. metals metal is a metal you know and it's there's no other form for it to convert to you can convert it from being in the soil to being in the water to being in the air but you still have a metal. in our work we fly through clouds and we sample the cloud droplets and we measure the chemistry of each one very fast as you're flying through a cloud. they're flashing as fast as you can imagine on a screen and we collect all that information and what we get is what's a chemical fingerprint in california with getting rid of lead in gasoline we've
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reduced the amount of lead we have and so when lead shows up that is one of the tracers that we say this could be from elsewhere and we can trace it back in time and say you know four days ago this air was over asia. and you have more pollution you have more aerosols those go into the cloud and so you have so many they can't get big enough to fall and lead to rain. and it's giving you these extremes of either not enough water in some places and way too much water in other places. what happens if we push it too far. we'll start to see more of these extreme events things like flooding and hurricanes. these are what people often refer to as tipping points and not so that's what we're very concerned about happening.
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my attachment to my devices is more complicated now. it's hard to get excited about the next new model or upgrade knowing what they really cost to make. the industry in it's constant search for cheaper workers and land is moving on to new countries with few government safeguards or inspections. we all have a share in this problem. but we can use our voices and our buying power to demand real labor safety and greater environmental protections. the digital revolution has improved our lives in so many ways. we need to make sure it doesn't rob us of our health and our planet.
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by the springtime flowers of a mountain lake. to the first snowfall on the wind this day. hello again welcome back to international weather forecast well we are in the peak of hurricane season right now we do have a lot to talk about here on our maps first thing starting out with the caribbean up there towards the northeast we have florence and that is a category four storm making its way to the united states probably on early friday morning we'll talk more about that in just one moment then we have a tropical wave right here over the yucatan that's going to bring some very heavy rain across parts of mexico and then it is going to be moving out here into the gulf of mexico where we do think it is going to strengthen and probably be
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affecting parts of texas a little later on into the weekend and early next week and then there is isaac right off the edge of the chart that is going to be making its way towards the eastern caribbean but we don't think it is going to be getting a lot probably any further than a hurricane category one and then dropping down to a tropical storm then over here let's talk about florence and the carolinas are now preparing for florence getting to the stores getting their supplies making their evacuations out of the area which they should be because this is going to be a very powerful storm once it makes landfall and we are talking about most likely on friday morning right there's a storm on tuesday making its way closer there on wednesday and by thursday we are definitely seeing a lot of wind swells as well as coastal erosion from most of the area. there with sponsored by cats on race. whether on line this isn't some abstract issue we need to pay attention to their stories or if you join us on saturday rather than
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stopping terrorism. creating a base is a dialogue and just the community is wanting to add to this conversation we need a president who's willing to be a villain in a short while everyone has a voice and part of civil society i did but i never get listened to by those in the chorus that joins the global conversation. on how to zero. this is zero. hello welcome to this al-jazeera news hour live from doha i'm on team dennis coming up in the next sixty minutes going hungry the united nations says one in every nine people around the world doesn't have enough to eat. they are more israelis and
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israelis they are more settlers than the sutler's. palestinians say they'll continue to seek justice at the international criminal court despite u.s. threat. and under pressure from the west to russia's leader vladimir putin looks east. and i'm peter started with all your sports satire all racism a cartoon and serena williams outburst at the u.s. open calls up all that and more coming up later in the program. now the number of people in the world suffering from hunger is on the rise one out of every nine people is now mao nourished according to a new report by the un's food and agriculture organization the f a o it blames war and climate change is the main reasons behind these alarming numbers stunting or lack of growth because of chronic malnutrition that's now affecting almost one hundred fifty one million children under the age of five but while the number of.
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undernourished people is increasing at the same time obesity continues to rise and the six hundred seventy two million adults that's more the mom in eight of us are considered obese well guatemala is a country in central america which has one of the highest raises childhood stunting in the world almost half of all children under the age of five a chronically malnourished and in indigenous mayan communities that number is even higher successive governments have promised to tackle chronic child malnutrition but progress has been slow david mercer reports now from the guatemalan highlands. inside this makeshift kitchen in guatemala highlands mark to hwy prepares lunch for children her son alex looks healthy but the one year old is in medical terms chronically malnourished traditional diets here lack vital nutrients meaning children can be fifteen centimeters shorter than they should be but stunting also
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affects brain development and the child's ability to learn making it harder to break the cycle of poverty for those not just look at. our children eat the same things that we eat and when there's a possibility to give them something extra you do it because you want what's best for your children i give my children what i'm able to but sometimes it's a struggle. around half of what i'm all and children under five are chronically malnourished and in indigenous communities like mark that number is even higher what i'm all i might be one of the region's main agricultural producers but it also has the world's sixth highest rate of chronic child malnutrition it's a combination of poverty lack of access to education and lack of access to health care that's causing the problem but one group says that they're trying something new to resolve this. and those a day coon brings health care to the rural families who need it the most armed with scales and measuring board and nutrition booklets rosa visits mothers with children
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under two. to combat stunting the ngo she works for focuses on the first thousand days of life raising awareness and empowering women is key but building that trust takes time. that some others simply don't know about child malnutrition or the importance of complementary foods it's good for them to and how to look after their children better and you see how happy they are when their children game weight. the programs project manager says this personal approach is paying off a lot of money as in the in the communities where we've been should use this program we've seen a reduction in chronic child malnutrition by up to twenty percent over the last two or three years this is a big achievement people here are becoming more aware that this problem exists it's not just families like marta's who pay the price for chronic childhood malnutrition
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it's estimated that stunting cost around three point five billion dollars a year but without a major investment by the government or private groups millions of children here will fail to reach their potential. david mercer al-jazeera. what amala. publicised chief negotiator says the united states is an unreliable broker in attempts for peace deals with israel. sector general saw about a cat also accuse the trump administration of doing israel's bidding by allowing more illegal settlement building and cutting desperately needed aid has come a day after the u.s. announced it shutting down the payloads mission in washington d.c. . and what the united states has done so far they have left the negotiating table. they did not honor the commitments made to us by president trump personally in the meeting at the white house in method two thousand and seventeen which he believed
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that he would give a peace process the chance for one year. and he would refrain from any actions that may preempt or prejudge issues that are there for parents. and then he decides to jerusalem as israel's capital. and he decides. from that file of negotiations and he decides it's legal yesterday his national security adviser bolton became the first american official to describe their legal settlements as housing projects. because of the two state solution six seven and then. close offices because we didn't come back to the negotiating table. in every single meeting we held with them we request of them. so what they have done with all its decisions so far and we never have a confrontation with the u.s. by the way. but how can anyone in their sin mind with all these american decisions
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drums decisions believe that these people can be honest brokers facilitators arbitrators in any peace process. well obviously he testified salomé is professor of public policy a bit of a c. he says the trumpet ministration is a crisis decades. between the two sides it's wide especially that the current american administration continues to put lead the palestinian people and the palestinian leadership hoping that they can coerce them into going back into the negotiating table i think the latest decision by the american administration is simply moving the clock back thirty years to the bre also the era when even a palestinian state was unthinkable in washington i think that starting with recognizing jerusalem as the capital of israel to moving the embassy from tel aviv to jerusalem to cutting aid to humanitarian needs and to put
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a refugee still cutting aid to palestinian government budgets and to cutting aid to palestinians hospitals and. all of this is a trend a trend of bullying trying to coerce palestinian leadership to go back to negotiating table basics are they going to go back to our top story that of that report coming out of the un's food and agriculture agency the f a o which says that the number of people around the world suffering from hunger is on the rise we can now speak to cost us he is an assistant director general of the f.a.a. and he's joining us live from rome thank you very much for talking to us and what in your mind that is the most stand out fact that you presented in this report that we should all be paying attention to. exactly what was mentioned that is the number of country people increased from eight hundred four million in two thousand and sixteen to eight hundred twenty one million in two thousand and
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seventeen this way we are about to cancel out a ten year progress in reducing the number of hungry people so the trend is reversed right ok that's that is pretty alarming isn't it but when it comes to the number of people who amount nourished as well what exactly is that because there is a specific definition for mound nourishment as opposed to hunger. there is the ease. hunger is related to the caloric intake that you take the good. news is not only caloric but basic lack of basic oxus to nutrients meat that means minerals and other essential things for the functioning of the human body so we have. nutrition also. stole rice so would it be fair to say then that the number of
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obese adults which again your report suggests is on the rise that they amount. yes obesity and overweight is a form of man nutrition and as a matter of fact. you can find people that are obese but they lack essential nutrients and minerals and other essential elements that they need as well yes right a case of form of monitors so i'm imagining then that the two scales of this problem are affecting different parts of the world there is who are hungry and undernourished presumably are in areas where they are deeply affected by conflict and and perhaps climate change whereas there is at the other end of the scale are affected by other problems first world problems. unfortunately we're seeing a rise in obesity in the developing areas of the world. obesity and food
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insecurity or can exist in the same country in the same communities sometimes in this a family and there is a very tight link between food insecurity or under meant and obesity so this is part of what the report shows that's very interesting and that makes it all the more difficult no doubt to come up with a solution a system by which this problem can be tackled. they have to be targeted all the season programs targeting the northeast people the under those people and also. addressing the issue of couric and balance diets to also fight obesity. cost us the list thank you very much indeed for joining us live from rome. right let's go to zimbabwe now is health emergency in place in the capital harare because of cholera the health minister has
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said the least twenty people have died and thousands of others are infective live now to the capital harare correspondent. bring us up to date then with what is being experienced by the people of harare zimbabwe more widely. all of this latest outbreak started last week monday in glenview it's a poor suburb in harare it's overcrowded and many houses have had running water for many many years it seems some people had visited the area area travel to other parts of the country and that's why the outbreak has spread. currently set up areas where people who are infected have been quarantined they also sitting islamists is to zimbabweans telling them how to stay safe and also it's a feeling sick to report to the nearest health facilities officials who work for the urban council say part of the problem is that for many many years there's been a lack of money because of the economic crisis or they say they.
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