tv NEWSHOUR Al Jazeera September 18, 2018 4:00pm-5:01pm +03
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oh yes we were here before type would run quick hits type of monk what made landfall on saturday morning we were here thursday we were in another province in calgary and province where it first made landfall and we saw the devastation there as well the devastation there is much more on the farmlands have now been submerged in fog waters homes that have been destroyed so you can see this whole region of northern luzon is the food basket of the country so this devastation is surely going to be felt not only from all of those of lost their loved ones in this on destruction but also economically as issues of food and rising cost of vegetables basically and food is going to be felt for many months to come ok to the last thank you very much for the update from a very precarious area in the philippines it took a. palestinian youth has been wounded on the gong to show off to being shot by israeli snipers out of their crew was reporting live from
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the area when the shooting happened rescuers can be seen rushing to help the wounded you. still ahead here on al-jazeera for modern tinian nader is charged with corruption we take a look at the political future of christina kushner. and we look at how climate change is threatening livelihoods of followers across every rock. hello those big shots around ukraine and turkey of just about disappeared and there's still some pretty big ones wandering around the eastern side of spain southern france the western bowl of the mediterranean but the active weather windy wet weather and still bringing with it quite warm there is that over the british isles a picture of twenty three seven degrees in london twenty seven still in paris but
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when you weather heads off towards norway where it is still raining fairly often on the coast now the big shot of the green blots are still there in spite increasing to they've spread across italy swiss else trying to get towards austria but otherwise it's actually turned a little warmer in many places in europe the sun is out by day and days are getting short of what they haven't really changed just yet a lot lot of shows that you sort of out in the west and bottled them at some links up through the sahara desert goes down to was mauritania eventually senegal there's not much rain there mysa just a few showers up in algeria in particular sunny by day for first time and at twenty eight degrees in robot still thirty three humid degrees in tunis but the real big dimples are still sort out the tropics still in the saddle sometimes we've seen recent fighting in nigeria and mali most likely in senegal to.
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a plane carrying thirteen military servicemen has gone missing off the syrian coast video from the area shows syrian government systems firing at the time russian defense ministry says israeli jets were in the area israel is providing no comment on the report. rescue operations are underway in the northern philippines all super typhoon. triggered a massive landslide thousands of those feared dead or missing all believed to be miners they were trapped inside a building in the town of when the landslide happened. and south korea's president . met with the north korean leader kim jong il and these latest pictures that we're seeing out of pyongyang the two leaders were all smiles as hundreds of people lined the streets to catch a glimpse of that historic meeting in the capital the now holding formal talks with north korea's nuclear disarmament will be high on the agenda. kelly is a professor of international relations at nasa. see and
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a writer on asian affairs the joins us live via skype from sun so i was seeing lots of pictures coming out of pyongyang pretty red picture it must be said that beyond all these photos shot this what a photo ops what progress can actually be made at this summit yeah i think the big question for the south korean leader is to get some kind of concession from north korea that is large enough to convince the americans particularly donald trump and secretary of state might bump a zero that continuing with the north korean detente process is worth it. right now things are really stalemated between the americans and the north koreans and i think that's really moonstruck moon has got to go to pyongyang and he's got to get something meaningful enough from the north that donald trump feels like this is worth continuing what's with that meaningful thing. well it's the americans particularly want to focus on nuclear weapons and missiles right south koreans are pursuing lots of other things the south koreans want
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a broad based upon they want to talk about combined economic development and exchange and trade and things like that the americans are really focused much more in arms control nukes and missiles it's hard to get a handle on what that means without a basic list of what the north koreans have some sense of how many missiles they have how many launchers how many warheads we don't really know this information and so to bring that back just the basic work sheet of what they have so the americans have some idea of what they should be bargaining about that would be progress and north korea wants the u.s. for its part to declare an end to the korean war doesn't it why is that so important to control and. well yeah it's pretty important for the north koreans because it signals that north korea is a real successor state from the korean civil war right the korean war it's basically sort of a civil war between two claimants to govern the peninsula and it's really clear now that south korea has won sort of that long term rates right i mean nobody really looks to north korea as a model of the future the north koreans are worried about absorption you know the north korea might collapse or you might have some some kind of internal revolt that
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would lead to southern intervention that's certainly the case anymore in south korea right i mean these claims are really asymmetric north korea is under threat but south korea is really not and so north koreans want a peace treaty to validate north korea's existence as a separate distinct korean state from the south and not the sort of average part of south korea that should be reabsorbed as soon as possible do you think that the north and south. on a direct poff to pay so i mean if they look at relations looking better than they have at any time in recent history you've been looking better probably than the last ten years or so but and part that's because the south koreans are making concessions to the north right i mean we can have the peace treaty the real trick is north korea's going to change right will they actually start to remove forces from the demilitarized zone the threaten seoul lacks to give up some nuclear weapons and missiles will they allow inspectors in will they lighten up on human rights which are really atrocious in north korea will they close some gulags i mean we can sign a peace treaty with north korea we can give them economic aid and sanctions or we can do all these things are not very difficult or the real trick is north korea going to be less dangerous nicer if you will nicer to its own people and to the
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international community and until north korea is really a different place and so until it's less tyrannical. we can have peace but not trust what do you think this is kim jong un's ultimate game is he in a place where he's going to want to do this on the whys why holdall these summits. yeah i don't think the north korean elite really wants to change them if they do as like what happened with gorbachev when he tried to change the soviet union you don't know what happens when those social forces a lot out of control you look at arab spring you look at the velvet revolutions of one thousand nine hundred nine right if you're a dictator it's risky to take your foot off and so i think what north korea really wants is to keep what they have have but to change and relieve the economic isolation sanctions around them but i don't actually think that north korea wants to liberalize that would be a revolution and for his part i mean how much does his legacy depend on guessing successful outcomes from this summit yet increasingly it matters a lot because when gene is really staked his presidency on this when gene was
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actually elected for all kinds of other reasons besides north korea south korea's got a big corruption problem as we all know the south korean previous south korean president was removed because of corruption korea has environmental issues all kind of has all kinds of sort of social issues with really long work hours and a punishing education system all these things mean gene i think koreans would like to work on these things but north korea has just absorbed his presidency right i mean donald trump last year at fire and fury and stop and it's just become the number one issue in his presidency now you know it's all north korea all the time now well they have a great speech too thanks for joining us there from tucson thanks for having me. watching dana's former president cristina kushner has been charged with corruption by john parliamentary immunity to be lifted so she can be detained because i was accused of taking millions of dollars in bribes and exchange for public contracts. the u.s. says escalation that's trade war with china that's imposing tariffs on another two hundred billion dollars worth of chinese goods and washington has warned it will
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hit beijing with even more tariffs if it were tiny it's joe castro reports. if ever there was doubt of a worsening trade war between the u.s. and china the white house's long awaited announcement made monday put an end to the debate it will be a lot of money coming into the coffers of the united states of america a lot of money coming in a lot of money in the form of tariffs on an additional two hundred billion dollars of chinese imports the u.s. government will begin collecting a ten percent tariff on those goods starting september twenty fourth through the end of the year then on january first the terrorists will jump to twenty five percent and of china at any time retaliates the white house says an additional two hundred sixty seven billion dollars of chinese imports practically the remainder of all chinese products sold in the u.s. will also fall under the terrorists the president's view is that to destroy the
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chinese economy we're not trying to put them out of business we're trying to get them to join the international trading nations world and be a citizen out of by by the rules for the first time in some twenty odd years prior to the u.s. announcement china's foreign ministry had warned china would indeed retaliate we're going to china will have to take necessary countermeasures to defend its own legitimate rights and interests the increased tensions will likely scuttle the renewal of trade talks between beijing and washington while about five thousand chinese products including household goods from vacuum cleaners to bikes will be targeted many u.s. businesses are expected to suffer as well three out of four american companies are adversely affected by u.s. tariffs and maybe sixty percent are adversely affected by the chinese tariff so
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that companies and remember these are folks doing business in china experts agree the trade war will not only hurt the u.s. . and china but also the global supply chain with the pain likely spread across the world how do you know castro al-jazeera washington let's go live to scott haidar he's standing by for us in beijing says quote despite the u.s. warnings china has indeed confirmed that it will retaliate absolutely yeah this is coming the last couple of minutes the commerce ministry issued a statement saying that they have no choice but to retaliate now this is something we've been hearing from chinese officials straight the way through when the united states was making these indications that they would be leveling more tariffs two hundred billion dollars announced officially on monday that we knew that the chinese government will respond in some way they said that they have no choice now but to retaliate but they haven't said just how they will do that yet they said
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that they hope that this again coming from the commerce ministry that they hope the u.s. will correct its behavior again no specifics on how they're going to retaliate to this and they've said because of what they've done on monday the united states and this new round the second round of tariffs on chinese products they say that the united states has poisoned these trade talks that have been going on and it's very interesting with the timing of this announcement from the united states on monday there in the final stages of another round of these trade talks just within the next couple of weeks are supposed to be a delegation from china going to washington to advance these trade talks and obviously now it's something like that's not going to happen we had indications earlier in the day that those meeting was probably going to be called off where the chinese delegation was going to go now we're hearing from the commerce ministry saying that those talks now are poison's scott just trying to feel that it's got many other options having recently saw a huge delegation in the russian economic forum it doesn't feel like it's got anywhere even for maneuver for leverage in these negotiations.
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well what's very interesting in speaking to some experts some economists here in china obviously this is going to be hits you know this is the biggest trading partners back and forth between these two nations but when you look at the chinese economy it's been growing pretty steadily you know one of the quickest in the world obviously that has slowed a little bit and there's some debt concerns but what's interesting is you look at this economist was telling me earlier today you look at the different smaller regional trade negotiations packs those he says because you've got this friction between the two largest economies in the world you need to look at those smaller trade pacts it's not going to be the same amount of money but china has more of those smaller ones but more of those the united states so he says you focus on those you focus on some of the china chinese trade initiatives with with europe with other nations with africa that those might have to start to be ramped up to make up that difference obviously it's not going to be the same as the united
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states but these are other ways that china can reach out and when you look at the united states one concern that a lot of people have have told me about and that is you know supply chains or what's going to possibly be this next round of retaliatory tariffs we haven't heard the details there from china but we're hearing that's going to be supply chains for manufacturers in the united states components built in china shipped over to the united states to redo those supply chains for those american manufacturers takes years so that's something that could have an economic impact that could last quite a while for those american companies ok got that from thanks very much scott. well the eighty members of the u.s. congress are pushing to get to reuters journalists freed from jail in manama calling on the top of his face and to raise the issue with me and mostly the unsung suchi. who was sentenced to seven years in prison earlier this month and convicted of possessing state secrets for their reporting on the army's campaign against writing to muslims. well the one hundred people have died in flooding across ten
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states of nigeria and heavy seasonal rains caused the niger and benway rivers to burst their banks have spread across the country over the last two weeks. iraq is running out of water is planning ministry says around ninety percent of land is now does it and vama say the future is a dying but that crops from office and reports from baghdad. this is what's left of this section of the once mighty tigris river. barely enough water to escape iraq's burning daytime heat the tigris and the euphrates rivers were the main water supplies for these once lush rice fields. farmers like raman used to be able to grow up to eighty square meters of rice that's only a little over one percent of the size of an average football pitch but it helped to keep his family alive now he produces barely a fraction of what if you grow before. now. look how dry this land
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is we can't get enough water even the water irrigation canals are empty and. iraq's ministry of water resources says that levels in rivers like the tigris here in baghdad have dropped up to forty percent over the last twenty years they say that partly to blame our dams and reservoirs which are being built in turkey to the north and they're restricting the flow of water southwards but also in the last nine months iraq's only had about half the amount of rainfall it normally gets over the course of a year and that's making things even worse it's estimated iraq's strategic water reservoirs contain eight billion cubic meters of water less than the minimum the country needs so the government says it's stepping in the minute they feel when we plan to cultivate around fifty square kilometers of rice as well as sixteen thousand square kilometers of orchards and vegetables for people to use in their homes but we can't provide as much water for crops as we did in previous years.
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farmers tried digging wells to reach water underground but it's often saturated with salt and that's deadly for plants. in the past we made more profit and we were rich with crops now we can hardly grow enough underground water isn't a solution it's a big problem to not have much water to irrigate your crops many farmers are taking jobs as laborers in the streets and on building sites leaving behind their dealing fields matheson al-jazeera back to. top stories the russian defense ministry says a military plane carrying fourteen servicemen have gone missing off the syrian coast tax in the area by israeli jets as well as providing no comment on the reports as actual rescue operation is underway in the mediterranean sea. russian spokesperson also said
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a french warship was firing missiles in the area at the time fronts on the u.s. both denied involvement the u.s. says syrian government and defense systems were firing when the plane went missing as strikes were reportedly targeting government buildings on the outskirts of the time yet stacy. so who is present in his third summit with the north korean leader kim jong un the two leaders were all smiles as hundreds of people lined the streets to catch a glimpse of the historic meeting in the capital they hold informal talks when north korea's nuclear disarmament is high on the agenda this is the first time a south korean leader has traveled to pyongyang in over a decade china says it has no option but to retaliate off the u.s. impose tariffs on another two hundred billion dollars worth of chinese goods the duties were applied to only six thousand items including rice and textiles washington has warned it will hit beijing with even more terrorists if it were touting its rescue teams in northern philippines are digging through mounds of mud
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looking for survivors of a landslide the mining town of gone on in bangor a province many locals have been sheltering from typhoon twenty lead landslide happened. through the philippines on saturday killing dozens of people. argentina's former president christina kushner has been charged with corruption and josh has asked for her parliamentary immunity to be lifted so she can be detained is accused of taking millions of dollars in bribes in exchange for public contracts. although one hundred people have died and flooding across ten states of nigeria heavy seasonal rains caused in the niger and benway rivers to burst their banks floods have spread across the country in the last two weeks and national disaster has been declared in four states and the government provided twenty one million dollars for medical and relief support. the update now with all the headlines we're back with more news here on al-jazeera that's after inside story. one of the really special
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things about working for al-jazeera is that even as a camera woman i get to have so much input in contribution to a story i feel we cover this region better than anyone else would get what it is you know it's very challenging given to particularly because you have a lot of people that are divided on political issues we are with the people believed to tell the real story so i'll just mend it used to deliver in-depth journalism we don't feel inferior to the audiences across the globe. germany and austria agreed to both the e.u. border force as divisions heighten over immigration is a sign of increasing all diminishing common ground what extent is the far right in the blocs migration policy this is inside story.
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hello and welcome to the show i am sam is a than well it's an issue that has divided europe for years on documented why gratian almost two million people have risked their lives crossing the mediterranean sea since two thousand and fourteen this movement towards europe continues to take a devastating toll on human life thousands died during their desperate journey several policies on border control restrictions have seen a decrease in the number of refugees and migrants are members of the european union still can't agree on what to do with them laura birdman lee looks at a polarizing subject within the e.u. common ground can be found. ten thousand more troops that's the number of border guards the european commission is calling on to tackle illegal immigration into europe and issues that divide it even members bringing tensions to boiling point
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religion looking for selection because all of creation external borders must be protected more effectively so we're proposing that the number of border guards financed by the european budget in two thousand and twenty to reach ten thousand the un high commissioner for refugees says refugee in my could numbers are sharply down from their peak four years ago. but the reasons why almost two million migrants have headed to europe since two thousand and fourteen remain to escape conflict persecution and economic hardship. several far right leaders in europe have taken a hard stones on the immigration including border closure causing many verbal outbursts. on friday italian deputy prime minister matty exchanged a war of words with the foreign minister of blocks that are to salvini referred to african migrants as slaves. i hear some of my colleagues saying that europe needs immigrants because its population is aging but i have
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a completely different perspective i think i am a government paid by our citizens to help our young people to start having those children again as they did a few years ago and not attack the best of the african youth replaced europeans who are no longer having children for economic reasons these are two completely different worldviews maybe noxon but there is this need in italy we feel this need to help our children to have children not the need to have new slaves to replace the children we no longer have so we are really to engage in dialogue with everyone . hey there hey there that's going too far. or no i calmly respond to your point of view that is not my own if you need new immigration in luxemburg in italy i prefer to help italians to start having children again. you don't know loads of who are in luxembourg we had tens of thousands of italians they came as migrants they worked in luxembourg so that you in italy would have the money for your children. who was off on this route came
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after to find hungary in prime minister vowed to continue to challenge the rules of migration this off the european parliament voted overwhelmingly to trigger for the first time a sanctions procedure against the member states hungry because of claims it breached e.u. rules on democracy and civil rights. lawyer or side let's speak clearly hungary is going to be condemned because the hungary and people have decided that this country is not going to be a country of migrants with jew respect but with utmost sincerity i reject the pro-immigration of forces of the european union to threaten them blackmail and smear hung. and the hungarian people based on force allegations. even members agree and urgent overhaul is needed but it divided on what steps need to be taken some countries are pushing for tougher external border controls others to ferry distribution of new arrivals
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a summit between leaders on sunday will prove of cooler heads can prevail and thought of the growing issue or will it continue to d.p. divide the e.u. for inside story laura bowden family al-jazeera. well bring in our guest into the show we have joining us from burden thorsten banner the co-founder and director of the global public policy institute in paris shamsul of all namely policy advisor at the european parliament and in swindon in the united kingdom via skype mariana calico lacky a researcher on migration and coeditor of critical perspectives on migration in the twenty first century a warm welcome to everyone in the show if i could start with thorsten then so the leaders of austria and germany they what they want to focus on boosting frontex we're told is the border the european union border force a solution to the migration challenge. in that the centrist talk mrs merkel has
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adjusted her views and is very much in line now with the austrian check what the austrian chancellor is a bust and quote said and is that the whole wealth place that we need to secure our . no i think it's a reasonable compromise but we shouldn't have any illusions because the far right or the or author of terra national and starting with mr oregon mr salvini the people we've heard about just now they have no interest whatsoever to solve the issue of migration the issue of migration for them is an important rallying cry to fuel their author a tarion nationalist revolution or counter revolution that they're staging in europe against the values of nine hundred sixty eight meaning a more open diverse europe and a values of nine hundred eighty nine an author a terrine revolved against liberal democracy which became the currency for the continent told them that let me jump in the five am probably the counter-argument
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that they would make is that since the european union can't come up with any sort of common policy to deal with this issue why should countries on the proof free shoulder the burden alone so to speak be that the negative financially exactly that was a lot. yes in the complaints about the from italy for that have been well founded so we left them alone there was a lot of hypocrisy on the part of germany leaving italy to deal with the arrivals that's all fair and fine and now that we've come around and said like we want to boost external border protection that should be a consensus thing mr oregon said oh i don't like the idea of having frontex with all this mandate and people and manpower i i want my own border guards to have sovereignty and so on so he he makes the sovereigntists counter argument against a coherent european approach to border protection just because he wants to
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safeguard his own little interests and he wants to keep this divisive issue alive because this divisive issue is important for him because he wins elections on his illiberal see no phobic and sigh muslim platform and the worst thing that could happen to mr robin would be that we have. in quotation marks dealt with the migration issue or the refugee issue and it's no longer the dominant issue of the day he has a he has a vested interest in keeping like that and that's why he doesn't support a sensible approach all right you think you put your finger in a very important point and that is the divisions within the euro want to come to that in the moment but before we get into that i want to ask shams the other sort of major policy push was supposed to be not only on supporting frontex but opening up new processing centers cooperating with north african countries in trying to stop people coming to europe you think that sort of approach can help.
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i mean hello everyone i totally agree with what has been just said and. your question on the new. member states are trying to at least create in theory. stumbled upon a main obstacle which is that on the soudan tip of the mediterranean we have libya libya doesn't have a political solution yet and as as long as libya's own structured answer to sions do not exist we cannot rely on any partnership and so you know many people may believe that the e.u. is concretely actually thinking of having. been in libya but in practice there are no search centers funded by the e.u. let me tell you it is in a good leader interrupt working at the u.n. let me really sound so you the counter narrative to that is well amongst the
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particularly the right in the in europe right now is that why shouldn't europe be responsible for the political structures of other countries isn't that enough to open up processing centers as long as standards i'm in tain there and they're in line with the european values you know europe can be responsible for the entire political structures in the rest of the world. well you know it was a political analysts in the middle east and the amounts of refugees hosted by the lebanese the turks the jordanians the iraqis from syria is absolutely incompatible with a one million representing only zero point four percent of the us population that the e.u. has welcomed so i think that we shouldn't actually bandit's to the rhetoric and smear mongering made by the far right basically we should actually stand by our reason stand by the statistics that show that refugees and that many migrants on that many there are actually an economic benefit to us as long as we invest in them
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and most importantly they are not a security threat this is the most important message that europeans need to understand two hundred fifty days before european elections more and more europeans and actually believe the far right's idea is that there is an actual link between being a foreigner being a syrian refugee or muslim being a threat to public order and that has been proven wrong not by myself but by the intelligence services of germany by the french police we can definitely see statistically that a refugee is as dangerous as a standard european you can be good you can be bad that is not the issue and as long as what about what about the argument then because the policy of just allowing in large groups of people may not need the economic in to meet the in can all make interests of countries like germany that while these economies do need people to
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make up gaps in their workforce they should be choosing the more skilled labor and the types of people that are really needed rather than just allowing everybody in so-to speak. well interestingly the european parliament has already suggested to answer your question a very strong e.u. position welcoming migrants on specific conditions which or that there should they should go to places that actually have jobs that goes without saying and this is the current can exchange system in. germany whereby a refugee is going to be sent to a land a region in germany that actually has economic prosperity not to zack's and where you have new nazi protests at moment because we know that saxon is struggling at the moment economically so we actually have the solutions that you can parliament has a ready position itself for family reunification an automatic redistribution of asylum seekers across the e.u. however our own member states are blocked why because of the minority of
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governments which as our previous speaker just said or basically i can't look at or any answer talking for talk about previous speak i do want to bring mariano but i can see thorsten is shaking his head in disagreement so bear with us for a for a minute now let me give thorsten a quick thirty seconds to come in. just just two quick ones i think you misrepresented the german system because asylum seekers are distributed across the country according to a certain scheme but people go to sex in the as well as other parts regardless of the prosperity of. the region so on they're distributed everywhere and more importantly i think it's really really really important to to make a strong division between our dividing line between dolls who we attract want to attract because we think they should become part of our workforce and we should have regular immigration laws for that and those who come in because they're needy because they need protection because there they have the status of refugees and i
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think it does a profound disservice to the debate if we mix the two arguments there should be want track that should be for economic migration and we should have all sorts of criteria for that and there should be another track preferably via direct resettlement that should be for people in need who need protection but we should really make a difference between these two and two ways of coming to europe that's a very important distinction of course a lot of the people who at the height of two thousand and fifteen were entering into europe or at least a sizeable portion no doubt were speaking from countries in conflict just to clarify i'm presenting as i said the counter-narrative of the right wing without that necessarily mean that's what i believe and i'm glad it's provoking a good debate and different response from our panelists here let me move to marianne and then kind of touched on an important point the into the numbers of people coming to your about have declined since two thousand and fifteen one would
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think that this problem should be decreasing while divisions heightening only further right now in the european union over it. the numbers have declined but they haven't start and we have not just the past couple of weeks for example greece they're rising again and last weekend five hundred nineteen people have arrived. this is something that. triggers the fire right and it because as previous because said. they use make rationing for their political gains they don't really care about stopping migration or doing or finding a solution to make ration they are using this issue to gain votes internally and possibly in the in the european further european election as well as well that that's so what's happening mariana do you think to that june agreement that was
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announced where supposedly leaders had come to an agreement on voluntary processing centers inside and outside the e.u. voluntary sort of quotas for settlements of refugees it's all of that over a row how are we seeing the unofficial demise of that agreement and a descent into what if we are. i think yes because they did announce this processing centers but half of the european countries said that they will not accept this centers and. when will they build them will be libya it's impossible with what's going on egypt i don't think that they will accept or they said that they will not accept with them make moral similar centers in the gentile and i don't think that there is any more capacity in the region island and what about maybe they will do them in turkey but i don't think that anyone can con corporators thank you so i think this disagreement has failed and one of theirs and that they will have. an official summit in a couple of days is discussing
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a plan so we will have to wait and see what this new plan will be but possibly that will try to expand the front x. month they'd even have even further ok i can see shams wants to say something let me give him a chance to come in before i move on. yes i just wanted to add on this that actually we already have a system of where migrants in jordan and turkey get visits from the e.u. from germany from canada according within the framework of the united nations high commissioner for human for refugees sorry units your and within that framework dozens of thousands of syrian and iraqi refugees have been relegated from jordan or from lebanon or from turkey to the e.u. or to canada that already exists and the main issue that we're discussing is is not creating new hubs where that is not absolutely not possible in libya the main issue
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is actually addressing the relocation within the e.u. how do we actively enforce the basics of the u. treaties which say that every member state has to show solidarity and share the burden and therefore why doesn't our striata and defra actually utter it does but why doesn't hungary slovakia poland apply the basic rules and that is why the you can parliament last wednesday has as you as you said started the mechanism should actually freeze the voting rights of hungary as long as it does not respect basically law ok i'm glad we've kind of come back in full circle to a point i wanted to raise with thorsten a point you raised thorsten a member go the divisions we've seen this sort of e.u. action. parliamentary action against hungry which poland is vowing to disrupt any sort of sanctions against hungry we've seen hungry make similar pledges to protect poland we've seen italy's interior minister say sanctions against hungry
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would be crazy so there's kind of like the a stream of countries lining up on one side and then you have on the other baps luxembourg and france are these disagreements over immigration forging new alliances and creating new divisions within the e.u. . in you have a division between centrist forces that includes the european people's party that voted against mr orbán that until now is still a member and the social democrats the liberals and you have the author chair a nationalist and there they feel that they have a lot going for them and mr robin is the savini they have nonvolatile to form form an anti european pro nationalist pro author of terror and alliance so it's not necessarily its new division but it's not let redefine the e.u. and break it up i mean where do you see this going it will mess with the you will make policy mean policy making in the us getting more complicated by the days saw
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it will turn the u. parliament depending on the outcome of the elections into a very big acrimonious mess and they will you know they will like that they will relish these these right wing forces because they wanted only one example to fail the. please go ahead go and they will go against it on the. peace. yes i was saying can i do one example so as i have worked in the parliament for a number of politicians from germany and the u.k. and france. you can see that the fire in the current mandate has been very destructive in its attempt to derail the just station so for example helping out syrian refugee children in turkey by giving them funds to have schools and teachers
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and better living conditions so that they do not actually try to leave turkey to have actually a better future would sound like a very logical solution well you care the fire out in the u.k. as well as the fire on another land in other countries such as in the netherlands i voted against increasing e.u. funding to build schools for syrian refugee children in turkey just because they're racist and that kind of i'm going to look at present counter argument i don't and they're going to say they meant race is not really an event or things that to do with the taxpayer money just to put the counter argument again not necessarily what i subscribe to. but they need to have a majority for that well i mean if i worried about you know everyone i think is going to give me to also let's give a chance twenty seconds to come back in on that and then we'll all markets are. sorry. i mean regarding taxpayers' money they've done the worst disservice to the u.k. by putting it on the cliff's edge by breck's it you know that it's going to cost
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the u.k. and has already started to cause the u.k. a lot of money so i don't get listen i don't have any economic lesson from ukip ok thorsten let me give you a brief twenty seconds we need to get marianne in again just i mean i think after may they will have the numbers to be really destructive and blocking things right now we haven't seen much yet but it's also really important the action against hungary that we've seen and against poland on article seven is not on their stance on migration and lack of solidarity with the action is actually on their stance undermining an independent judiciary independent universities these are all laws that hungry important have passed that the e.u. has taken issue with because it's against the mutually agreed values this is not a procedure that deals with immigration so we need to get this straight all right so tolson they're saying that they'll have the real numbers to be destructive after may mariana i wonder if you agree with this statement by italy's minister of
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interior my tale salvini which i think kind of is related to what thorsten is hinting at here when he said quote i am convinced that in a few months we aren't going to govern europe together with all band referring of course the hungary and prime minister viktor orban rather the breakup might it take over beyond the cards. no i don't agree with that. we will see you know to say something final we will have to wait for the elections but . two countries cannot rule over the whole european union and so what we have to see will be mine wired whole and it is on the same side you know maybe more than a few countries now which show shifting towards the right wing that might be able to redefine the whole essence of what it means to be the e.u. . they are shifting to their right wing but i don't think that they
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are shifting to fascism like hungary and italy. and the the us change any way it has. it has standing to. ride wink organization i would say. but there are still some countries when it comes to make ration and should not but there are some countries that. will still try to fight the rise of fascism for example france so what i'm saying in europe at the moment is to poll just the french poland hungary and poland we would have to wait until the elections to make some final remarks and conclusions all right i guess that time but i don't file it will be able to rule over the whole of europe now or i guess time will tell and we will see no doubt we back again to discuss this for now afraid time is out so let's thank our guest thorsten banner shamsul on amy and mariana. and thank you to fortune you can see the show again any time by
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of the matter the three big challenges facing human point in the twenty first century they are nuclear war climate change and technological disruption they seem realities whatever is there to fear is not in me it is in the people of uganda hear their story on and talk to al-jazeera. russia says a billet trip plane carrying fourteen servicemen was accidentally shot down by syrian anti-aircraft fire. you know that i'm oracle while this is a live from doha also coming up nuclear disarmament tops the agenda as when j. young arrives and the first south korean leader to visit the north capital in
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a decade. digging for survivors three days after typhoon man good wreaked havoc in the philippines. and an intensifying trade war china says it will retaliate of u.s. announce its biggest tariffs yet on imports from china. the russian defense ministry says fifteen military servicemen have been killed off the plane was shot down by sara. an anti aircraft fire boss is accusing israel of deliberately creating the situation which led to the incident the russian plane went down off the syrian coast near latakia russia says israeli jets pushed the plane into the path of syrian air defenses calling it a deliberate provocation israel is yet to respond to the report says jets were attacking syrian installations in the area or italians joins us live now from moscow so the russians coming out with
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a very clear picture of what happened according to the. yes the defense ministry sounds very angry indeed at the moment with israel it basically says that israel deliberately caused a dangerous situation in which as you've just outlined. a russian transport plane was shot out of the sky by a syrian air defense systems the. s two hundred now what the russian defense ministry says happened is that basically these is ready jets that were attacking the latakia coastline last night use the kill twenty that's the type of transport plane the bush out of the sky that used this russian transport plane as a kind of shield essentially from the syrian air defense missiles hiding behind it putting that plane in the path of danger and it was that the resulted in this plane being shot into the into the sea and the deaths of fifteen service personnel now
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the russian defense ministry is calling this irresponsible it's calling it provocative it's calling it hostile those are angry words coming from the defense minister at the moment directed at the israeli military and the russians are saying that they are reserving the right to an adequate adequate response absolutely will never spawns get from israel to leave keeping a close eye on developments on that story for the moment thanks very much will stephanie jacka joins us live from antakya near the turkey syria border pretty significant battle was taking place here in this particular area in latakia what was being targeted and by whom. well it was a confusing picture this went on for about half an hour last night very soon after there was announcement of a deal on a glib so first people were questioning whether this was coming from the rebel forces what we do understand according to the official syrian news agency is that
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a technical institute was targeted it seems that this is some kind of installation used by the syrian government of course if israel is now involved. of israeli involvement of course the israelis will never confirm it the question is were there some kind of iranian allied on the ground weapon shipments because this is usually what israel will target i think it's interesting how this is going to move forward because a it sounds like seems out of top gun having the israeli fighter pilots use the russian plane as a base of maneuvers as a protective shield against those anti aircraft missiles but russia and israel have an understanding when it comes to syria israel as we know targets iranian targets weapons shipments has inside syria actually recently said that it's targeted over two hundred in the last year and a half or so how is russia now going to respond because there's always been some kind of conversation between the two russia has never retaliated it's always controlled damascus to have some kind of retaliation while now you've had one of
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its planes shot down with fifteen service members on board it also highlights laura how international and complicated this oil situation is but of course israel and russia the two major powers i think that's also going to be kept in consideration when it comes to any sort of response i think certainly the fode going to be working at this point in time absolutely and let's go back to the situation in. response to hold on the ground as i say to turkey russia deal to hold off on offensive for now what are people on the ground saying. yes i mean of course the fact that there is no military offensive at the moment is something that is being welcomed but the bigger picture when it comes to the rebels is this they will have to take away their heavy weapons in this area demilitarized zone it seems on both sides from the rebel areas in southern part of it live province in northern hammer and from we understand from speaking to various sources
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also fifteen kilometers inside the syrian government area so you're looking at a thirty kilometer so-called buffer zone again we have to see if this is going to be something that has successfully implemented the deadline is october the fifteenth will the rebels on the ground and again there are various different rebel groups including. terrorist organization need to retract move back from these areas the bigger question is this it doesn't solve the major issues or it doesn't address what happens to the civilians and to the tens of thousands of rebel fighters going forward because damascus says it still wants to take back the entire province so this is phase one it's a good thing in the sense that military you know military offensive has been averted for now but we're going to have to wait and see how things unfold on the ground we also know mending different rebels are not happy about it because they see it as capitulating to the syrian government and seeing as they have to listen to foreign powers and go against what they've been fighting for for many many years
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so again we're just going have to wait and see how things unfold keeping a close eye for us on venice in syria thanks very much stephanie. now south korea's president is in pyongyang for his third summit with north korean leader kim jong il and the two leaders were all smiles as hundreds of people lined the streets to catch a glimpse of the historic meeting in the capital they hold informal talks where north korea's nuclear disarmament is high on the agenda is the first time a south korean leader has traveled to pyongyang in over a decade north korean state media says the summit offers a chance to improve relations of what right is live for us in seoul and rob interesting snippets of conversation between the leaders and why he's being picked up by the cameras in the guest house what we have him saying. that's right yes there is laura and it's one of the first interesting more candid moments to come out of the summit so far as you've mentioned there what we've seen is a very choreographed display of the friendship of this these.
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arriving from south korea being warmly greeted hugged by kim jong un and we are now into the first formal set of one on one meetings face to face these are the sessions obviously where we can expect if there's going to be anything substantial to come from this summit this is what's going to produce them and we're not likely to hear if there has been any success until we get into tomorrow wednesday when there are more formal briefings possibly with any statements or any news about anything that's actually been signed but the incident you're referring to is something that has happened later in the day. in south korea arrived at this delegation they were warmly welcomed there were chance of reunification of the fatherland as they drove through streets that were crowded with cheering on lookers when they got to the state guesthouse where the south korean delegation is being
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put up they were invited inside by kim jong un and his wife there were handshakes and then the camera picked up more unguarded comments from the two leaders kim jong un was heard to be apologizing almost for what he called the humble nature of his country it's something he's referred to before it does seem that he is a little self-conscious about the obvious disparity between north and south korea. j.m. it was very gracious of the major's very well but then said something very interesting and also slightly poetic he said it seems that our. spring is now turning into our pyongyang autumn now let me explain panmunjom when they met in the spring was. the first summit that they had that was what started the whole process he seemed to be saying that it's now time in the autumn here in pyongyang for it to bear fruit so it was a gentle reminder in a very poetic way that it's time to actually get on and get something to agree
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that's really because we've seen lots and lots of smiles have way and handshakes and hugs but what actual progress have we seen in warming relations. well as far as the into korean relations we've seen a lot there has been a lot of tangible results we've seen in the past few months the big sticking point obviously is still the whole question of the nuclear issue and just how sincere is north korea about getting rid of its nuclear arsenal there is still the school of thought that says under no circumstances would they ever be willing to give up their nuclear weapons but it does seem as though the south koreans before they've come here have been well briefed by their u.s. counterparts they know what the u.s. wants the question is whether they can get the barest minimum extracted from the north koreans between the smiles and the banquets and all the rest enough to to take to the americans and say look this isn't dead we can be pursued maybe there
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could be that long anticipated second summit between kim jong un and donald trump maybe in october maybe before the mid-term elections law ok rob thanks very much for keeping tabs on events in pyongyang for us there from seoul. now rescue teams in the northern philippines are digging through mounds of mud looking for survivors of a landslide that had the mining town of gone a province many locals have been sheltering from typhoon lanka that and the landslide happened ripped through the philippines on saturday killing dozens of people to maryland has more from it all gone. we climbed down the ravine where the main rescue energy will operations are happening we spoke to rescuers who have been working double time to try to expedite this operation and we also spoke to family members was decided to join and help with the man while digging of rocks because they said the agony of waiting is just unbearable now we are right outside the operations center you can see behind me these are families
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waiting for news about their loved one there is a live over there and that list keeps getting longer and further there is a temporary area where the bodies that have been retrieved are sample really place even from here the center of ranting human flesh is overwhelming and over there we can feel basically that we are standing on precarious ground now president rodrigo declared hinted at the possibility of closing illegal small scale mining operations across the country but without any alternative really it is not going to be easy that is because more than three million people are dependent on mining basically for their livelihood. you know as nations envoy to yemen martin griffiths's left the capital sana'a after a two day visit involving talks with to see leaders it's meeting focused on resuming consultations between the yemeni government and the rebels there's no word on whether any progress was made the wrong.
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