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tv   Tommy Soeharto  Al Jazeera  September 22, 2018 7:33am-8:01am +03

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away in kabul. counting the cost. this is a really fabulous news for one of the best i've ever worked in there is a unique sense of bonding where everybody teams in. something i feel every time i get on the chair every time i interview someone we're often working around the clock to make sure that we bring events as i currently as possible to the viewer that's what people expect of us and that's what i think we really do well. political dynasty is being revived. the fall of the president named as one of the most corrupt leaders in recent history. the youngest son.
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of speeding a new political party. to give him his name is aiming to reinstate the. japanese king. this week. and this year at. all. despite accusations that his family had amassed billions of dollars in money. to give him not a chance. just
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above. the rest. as you know the united nations and also transparency international have sat that president will have to have stolen more from the indonesian state than any other president has done and the past between fifteen billion to thirty five billion dollars is the estimate what do you say about that. now but ended up going to come
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. home when they made that i know a lot of the. swiss that's a lot of the somebody's got a. lot of money class. we can talk about it the gaps. in the. number that made a lot of them i don't. want to shoot them and then they don't have very very. corruption with debbie ben so. it's about to see the new. young young young men get out that sort of. caught up.
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twenty years ago one thousand in lesions are estimated to have died during the riots that destroyed shopping malls and homes in the capital jakarta at least eighty ethnic chinese women were raped the bloodshed began after the asian financial crisis comes to currency and the stock market crashed the unrest asking me to twenty all just shot for students at the university military and political leaders sad so has to have lost his grip and abandoned him. isolated step down on may twenty first one thousand nine hundred. seventy of them on the. bike and then. i had a moment i'm going to. get at them that i am.
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and i knew they just had a fancy to see me i am butting biting but never. anything. and i'm among embedded in you that we have but that's the best. then a glass. of. them immediately but in the. butt i said. yeah but when we go back to remain nine hundred ninety eight and your father was forced to step down do you remember what was the situation right then and what were you feeling. yeah it's a get my money the. schematic that we keep that i knew what we're going to busting up with the why do best to go bust but less made it up on the me. i put the but i'm not going to my monkey get on them with mung. seen got up on
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a car that had to be can. be they the memory the. amount christmas money they get up there that they do very what i want to buy a lot of money in the mission but with the same number they can be said when i see the cd. when i bessie and among them can buy that you are going to get the putting out and being in there with them and beating it up be the man that i am young. i could am good equipment and. so you saying this whole thing was organized orchestrated so who was behind it. so there are men women but i think a lot of the so i bet i know hearing young i'm like those why is it that i am you know i did a lot on him in africa then i. think. they
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have been accusations against former general a bull has actually been a presidential candidate in two thousand and fourteen that he was behind a finance is that true. mcguinty but i look up and i have a. very good sort of given up when you're going. on line and up on the peace and the support. among among but no idea. do that do that but it would and i did that with you that what we did. what the. n.p.t. and i think ninety eight exactly twenty years ago thousands of people students took to the streets all asking for the resignation of your father don't you think they really want to tempt to go yeah don't you know that even if that's the south the or the that much is what you that most of the. kind of them with the idea. myself as
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much as. they come out i. saw a lot in that and but i pressed on about a lot of it that i did up on. and when we play and when you hear that i wish that i wouldn't do that it will go up on what i have. following so have to survive like nation time so thousands of students demanded justice for a day sad for human rights violations and widespread corruption more than one million indonesians died during mass killings during his rule in the one nine hundred sixty thousand. others were jailed without any legal process. despite the demands for justice and the return of the billions he and his children were accused of stealing from the state the former strongman was never brought to court the united nations and transparency international to clear it so hard to have stolen
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more state assets than any of the world leaders long after so hostis down in two thousand and eight supreme court judge's order to his family to repay nearly four hundred million dollars that money taken from state companies was transferred to private suharto foundations register a scholarship provide us the money has yet to be returned. if the government for example would establish a team to go look for all this money for all these billions of dollars what would you say. but that's not happening because i'm not saying that no matter but we didn't want to put out a book the it was the one issue politically and was very open with the. and then there is the verdict against the foundations the soeharto foundations and you are ordered to pay back four hundred million us dollars by the supreme court in two
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thousand and fifteen until now no money has been returned. i didn't know there were but i did have the butler. yes and the beat up on the man yeah. yeah so i mean nobody. is going to get money. by going well with. you know double number yes and it's also the. on the message that man was good with that he but i don't not that one hundred that it will mean that it. will be about that also that i'm sort of debris coming up on this one that he said he commanded. that but i've been there. and then i am. not that young man with. a little bit in. that mode but i mean the idea. among young women that it's a long time that especially. now that the bible you know if. you get
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a bang without discipline maybe they'll be happening. in the past twenty years has become one of most vibrant democracy with regular elections down to the lowest level of government even if speech vocal protest on the street. or widening gap between rich and poor has become the main focus of the opposition parties including those you form work party. to join coming of the young in and member like you could and my son will get a new young kid that's about over two thousand. pharmacy now if we. get that up and we. will get to seven and i had. i don't.
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think we can. read about it because you know when we see. you in a moment do economically and then. let me be very it play it. by them don't you think too many people are still traumatized by the presidency and the policies of president a hostile and they won't vote for your party. god i don't know i don't want to. and i don't. but i see that in order by doing that and then perhaps it is. my when i got into it i mean i don't think this that i mean what exactly do people miss from the time so fast and. you have to. have this and i said no it is more the end economy but then will be back again. how did i go
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but i knew that would be the jungle but many indonesians would say that the reforms have given them more freedoms this democracy there are elections now you're really saying they want to give that up so i get asked. about it do that. democracy. i wouldn't. do that then i don't see that because i'm a month. ago but i see when they put out about a month when needed and. when i've done that we have all the. minimum we can. william when we can. so i do. you don't let on. to become of them when they can only be that it's about. i thought about the people back then
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but about them once again i just don't get that made up. but the smell of the stadium. they had the window open. but he didn't but i bet a bit about it. to get at this minute. to get at this minute. but actually the depth at the moment are less than that that's going to time off precedents for hossa which were fifty seven percent off the g. b.p. and now it's less than thirty percent so what you're saying is actually not true yet but it may be about on myself i am going to. kill them with the bit with you know when they might be. going to make it better. than. i remembered by the time i invest i think i did
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the innovation. but there was a debate the baby. was one of the victims of this. as a student activist he became part of the underground pro-democracy movement he was kidnapped in one thousand nine hundred eighty and taken to a secret prison where he was tortured and by to have toast special forces. few weeks after so have to step down from power to be until. the new order or his emotion out of. authoritarianism repressive. and also brutal. so that's for me based on my life experience and i think that is also exactly the
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reason why i. may be good to go. move and rise. and i seem to go and. have been on then nineteen and the at the end i was abducted by the special i'm porthos off the army. and four dead in the look at that for two days. and. you know it it. changed my life this is the family of soeharto and i had this like the you know criminal crimi know yes the operator of the people those who stole the people money and his the family of soeharto and the loss so there is writing here for me
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the. right for me here as the son of the criminal. also who commit the corruption call us and then the pollution and they put this i'm after what happened to you during this a hostile regime to torture and a kidnapping how do you feel that his son tommy soeharto is now going back into politics. first thing that's democracy that we have now which is the result of our struggle to tickets to go and everyone has democratic right to including to establish a political party but i believe that the idea of. their teaching the practice of the heart of will never be accepted by the initial people what will they sell to the people there is no peace into our time prosperity
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there is no price but at the as in in so how to time the prosperity in that the you know they sell to people is fake you know it's not that it's not true that when they said that at that time the price is fairly cheap off course at that time was very cheap also because of the failure of money and now is a year but also because why it was cheap at the time is because of the foreign debt in the disability huge subsidy which make us not able to do anything at the time and. yeah the time is like orderly peace because we are silence. you know because every sailing in our house is like the intelligent if and the people cannot criticize the government even in the family during they are having dinner for example so at that time. country is
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built on fear if we look at all the students around us they were asking for so have to be brought to court and also to bring back the money that he allegedly had stolen from the indonesian state where now twenty years later we have never been to court here the money has never been found or returned how do you feel about that we are disappointed suharto and the regime is not yet. brought to court but we are sure that it is a matter of of of time you know that punishment for new order is seen it's not only in the form that so hard as a person is brought to court. it can also happen with the show punishment by the people for example that the political parties get into a fight themselves as the political party of three hundred dollars and also people punished by the people by the people not for thing on choosing the political
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party and the young people now are already you know knowing what happened in the past and also in the. short bus tickets to go but what happened in one thousand in ninety eight and they will be the one to for the election. to have to is the only member of. his family conflicted of corruption a supreme court judge sentenced him to eighteen months in prison for an eleven million dollar land deal scam instead of going to jail eighteen years ago so have to son went into hiding soon after the supreme court charged sentenced him. in two thousand and two terms so high school was again sentenced this time for fifteen years for ordering the charges murder he was released after serving four
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years. you've been convicted in a murder case when a supreme court charge has been murdered you got fifteen years in jail don't you think this will have a very bad impact on your political party and you're an electability then they are they are going to. fire them because they're. going to have your own power you could. see them say or it will be that just have to put some see what happens i see that the people before they set the book think you know what they said that the but i gave them. the up on the mesa side of i don't know when that and i sort of mean that i could be that. yes i must but the but. when you're on them we believe then you have them only in think clearly but clearly believe has more value kassam i got you to. point and they want
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to put me in the can. but he might not be so many back at them and. bring them up on my program program. but link up an economy where the median young just get out of the bunker and among the people that are going to take on the u.n. i'm going to celebrate. become of the guy i was a really good idea. but i think it might come much i gotta look back and ask those bus. we have got to. do that but there was. that there was a. there
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was a right in there. if you're going to be elected president. of a democratic system in indonesia. and i'm among the deputy got it. i question what it's. in the bag and then deeds of the dead as a lack of the yeah. and i think i don't want to see them and then when did the woman done with the. deal that i don't know about me. were going with what i knew abundantly proceeded to have
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a similar demand that that. amy anyone's got any of them listed in the body and be able to sell it better. than a million. myself up on how they i'm still but. would let me put them in the obesity place then when i do up think up would do about the same regardless i don't believe that the i did buy the book but he had been the most out of the.
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