tv Up Front 2018 Ep 15 Al Jazeera September 30, 2018 7:32am-8:01am +03
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a representative for the u.a.e. is spearheading instability in the region tesla c.e.o. elon musk and the u.s. securities and exchange commission have reached a settlement over fraud charges under the deal musk will remain c.e.o. but will pay a twenty million dollars fine and stepped down as chairman of the company asks accused of misleading investors afterwards tweeting that he secured funding to take the electric car maker private last month macedonians will head to the polls in about an hour for a referendum on the country's name voters will decide whether to accept an agreement with greece to change the balkan nation's name to the republic of north macedonia because greece insists that only its province of macedonia can claim the name those are the headlines coming up next an al-jazeera it's up front by for now every weekly news cycle brings a series of breaking news stories joined the listening post as we turn the cameras on the media focus on how they were called on the stories that matter the middle
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east they're listening to on al-jazeera. hundreds killed thousands fleeing the country so it's nicorette us president daniel ortega facing a legitimate revolution or a violent. i've made the house and with allegations of ads so it isn't surrounding the u.k.'s labor party and its leader jeremy corbyn will debate whether the british left has a problem with anti jewish hatred and how much these accusations have to do with criticism of israel but first since april of this year nick regulars faced a political crisis with both supporters and opponents of president daniel ortega clashing in the streets hundreds have been killed and thousands wounded many of them at the hands of pro-government militias according to human rights groups as many are calling for take it to resign he insists it's all part of an attempted
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coup but does his government take any responsibility for the violence and the chaos all of this week's headlines nicorette us vice minister of foreign affairs val drug ads. vice minister of foreign affairs thanks for joining me up front. this year has been in crisis since april you have hundreds of people reported killed thousands wounded armed groups attacking civilians on the streets thousands of nicaraguans fleeing to neighboring costa rican do you does your government the government of daniel ortega take any responsibility for any of that the government of nicaragua a violent criminal. the reason we call it a coup is because it's fundamentally a minute. was to overdraw the constitutionally elected government because an election that happened just recently in two thousand and sixteen and was recognized by many international organization the clued in the us as expressed in the will of
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the people that violent appraising that violent coupe. here was perpetrated by a group of politically motivated. fringes of political parties in india who then mobilized through manipulation terror and fear the population of nicaragua so a lot of governments a lot of human rights activists a lot of journalists have objected to your description of a coup they say you have a brought forward evidence you say it is a coup isn't the easiest way to solve this to allow u.n. observers who you invited into the country earlier this year to finish their job rather than kicking them out as your government did in only because now when they asked for greater access to prisons and to other areas with problematic the you when human rights commission we invited the un monitors to accompany the government and the dialogue especially the council of bishops in organizing what we
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called the verification commission that was supposed to go on the streets and try to verify what was happening that is what we invited them to do that reason was not any longer. needed because merely because you're telling the world there was a coup you're saying that all the a protest of the ones doing the killing the u.n. are saying hold on we've got evidence otherwise and you say so by addition to the u.n. hundred and ninety eight two hundred deaths that are the result. that i read the united nations most of it is result of the coup or everything but also your every network point when it's somebody else's i mean i'm thinking you know today should see a pretty credible group of people if not the cia coming to check on the ground about them say you know where they're saying that we've seen human rights abuses we want to go into prisons we're not let into prisons we're getting reports of killing of civilians just release the number of prisoners and the conditions what the prisoners are doing what we are saying is that we did nathan did not invade the united nations for that specific activity at that point you know so therefore we
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are of why not let the investigators they also got some. doesn't obey what country we do there is a little as you can say there's a coup against what we are clear you have provided no evidence and you chucked out the un we're clear miniscule and suspicious of the evidence is very simple the mobilization on the street was to over troop violently the government if that is not the reason and that is that the definition of a call then what is the finishing of a court the un high commissioner for human rights has said you're sliding into a dangerous spiral of violence and impunity ministry says nicaragua is turning into a pressure cooker about to explode because of serious human rights violations committed by your government the inter merican commission on human rights says use it seriously investigate the killings human rights watch says the say are all these groups in making it up and they are one of you is what i wanted the american humans rate commission to help us understand what happened at the beginning of the instead because of their methodology using information coming from n.g. or local organisations with all that
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a verification began to define these activities we see that what happened on the streets was perpetrated by a group of very radical and very violent. military activist you have the names i can show you the photos so you are out of the you will have a resident and we are in the process of arresting them and that is that we don't have political prisoners there isn't one against human rights groups disagree with the death there is a they disagree with your political interests one single political human rights prisoner a hundred people who are saying we have since april we have captured and that is what the human rights organised in the international interim erik and human rights commission asked us to do ok i asked the told is that i look these we cannot look at non-state violence your the vice foreign minister of the story you are traveling the world speaking on behalf of your government i'm asking a very simple question when the u.n. high commissioner for human rights and amnesty international and human rights watch and the interesting commission on human rights are all saying that you are killing
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civilians that you are holding political prisoners why are they saying that they because they are. feeding from a number of organizations so all i have got a favor with you or do you know why well it is not a regular government to telling the truth while i understand the concept of hama as in the homogenization of the discourse this is what we are saying the information that is coming out of the world is money purely did and it is based on the father's premise of the problem that when i look at it as an outsider the human rights groups are admitting what you're saying they're saying policemen have been killed by protests literally it's meant ok but but they're going to size the point is they're criticizing protestors aren't done sixty percent gets killed our government sympathy goes around so long to work let me let me just ask the human rights groups criticizing both sides you're saying you've killed no one who are more emotional than you are in saying that the police has responded to all armed attacks that's what we're saying is that. pro-government militias kill sixteen protesters in what
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was basically a massacre of. mother's day we don't have militia who are the people in the past these people on the march are police and police. voluntary police we have a lot of volunteer police the law nine hundred ninety two one thousand nine hundred ninety two the police ninety six and the police layer of two thousand and two or two thousand and six recognizes that the police use is a voluntary police which is a group is a set of. citizens who support the police let me ask you about the examples that are given by some of the reports a woman told the united nations that a group of hooded men detain my husband at our house beat him took him away make it is she lying the pregnant woman who told the associated press that she was hit in the face slapped by a group of police and volunteers police they question my fingers hit me in the ribs and stomach when i was on the ground they kicked me is she lying to all these protesters lined the nicaraguan police has been record made publicly in the world
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as of whom i write a police that respects human rights that is that full of false identities and it will be read to you quote from amnesty and say human rights laws of the american association or of the united nations leads the police has been recognized in the past a lot of this and you look at how much little thought of state welfare authorities a basic concept is you finance about a minute just calmly of mel statement human rights group just do not really go is the nicaraguan police this year as respect human rights that is a flat out ones but statement does not violate human rights as far as you because i want you but honestly rich you would rather lose respect saying is there are there are for the there is human rights organizations are feeding off of that's why i say . government not so i ask a question to the women in the main said they also requesting that you not the women who say a pregnant woman fellow nicaraguan citizen who you represent your got your the
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government elected government when she says the volunteer police beat me kicked me in the stomach that doesn't worry you doesn't bother you already unless you go rehabilitation it worries me and we are carrying out every single investigation that's necessary to understand what happened that is the origin of the invitation of the interim eric and human rights commission the people who brought you to in your volunteer police or militias as well we are carrying out the investigation we are right now in the process of in carrying to the courts every single one of those who are in the roadblocks you must remember that the letter we quickly got confused with the people you're prosecuting you're saying you're prosecuting people of both sides of the devil are saying we are we are beginning to prosecute people who have committed crimes and that is a process that is ongoing the police. was asked of the streets of nicaragua for fifty one days by request of the bishops and the most heinous crimes were committed in those fifty one days between the end of april and the middle of
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june since july fifth the police were of the c b s but the volunteer police were not daniel ortega who is now seventy has spent more time in power twenty one years over two stints than the late brutal dictator he helped overthrow in one nine hundred seventy nine some ozer president taken hasn't just abolished term limits he's also seems to have brought back family rule to nicaragua the vice president and his wife and his children have been appointed to key advisory positions in government is it any wonder then that his critics are saying he's the new some others are the new dinar stick leader that is that is bringing back the whole idea of polarization number one and number two i don't see anyone in the children's and the government that is i do i don't see that either that actually two of his daughters or advisors are what they are not one of these are mentally ill and we're not going to get the discussion because you know you're going to go to who pays the go their government but they are now at that but they have the power but more power no let's go back to our the example of. the vice president of the country for many reasons constitutional reasons she has
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a right to run. for political reason she has been in the senate is the movement historically and we have a large the what we call a fifty fifty law you have to hear how of the candidate for president the vice president has to be is one is a man the other one has but what you're telling me is that because of the gender balance is the reason she's the vice president cheney other women in the. good but what i'm saying is you have a card that has been historically a part of this and in this to move yes there may be other people of course there are let's talk about the son had a mentor let's talk about the sundanese to move with the president's own brother who was in charge of the armed forces for many years he says quote this is not a dictatorship but it's very authoritarian family dominated style of governing is he part of a coup a conspiracy against his brother i'm saying is he has his own position and he's on his hands and he has his own position and he has a right to his old position i didn't ask but i got
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a lot of saying i'm not saying the part of the conspiracy i don't see is part of any country and syria is all. that's his opinion of the government of his own brother so when i look at so many high profile figures who were supporters of yours in the one nine hundred eighty s. supported the sunda mr struggle who are now shocked at what your government are doing the philosopher noam chomsky says there's been a lot of corruption a lot of repression your government is autocratic the celebrity activists bianca jagger says daniel ortega may be worse than some others say he's a war criminal conduct barely the nicaraguan poet former sundanese to activists join your movement in one nine hundred seventy she says or take his wife have turned into a land of terror why are all these people who spend their lives supporting you supporting your party your government why they now saying the start of a conspiracy did shifted the shifted when we lost the elections in one thousand ninety be. shifted when we lost the election talk about this and is it going to get your government is autocratic just good ones understanding supporters of the company or me who in the western world chomsky who is the cleaner. of whole this
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whole media manipulation system happens can have his opinion but if you're talking to me about how much genius opinions let me ask you this you have a situation where as you say you what you call a coup others of calling you know protests legitimate protests what is the solution to this crisis what are you going to do about these people who are taking to the streets just carry on shooting at them no we're not carrying on shooting of them since july fifteenth when we recaptured the streets when we moved the we go and we remove the barricades the hasn't been one single person died one last question as you deepen roxy will you be supporting president take if he runs again in twenty twenty one that's a decision of the congress of the party but you're in favor of it personally. i would support to go to the president for life i am not saying prison for life i am saying this and the mr is evolving movement a very strong nationalist movement who is dear to strengthen democracy and to
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strengthen the development of the country that is what was being destroyed in this property the vice foreign minister thanks for joining me on that front thank you very much. the u.k. labor party has been hit by accusations of anti semitism in recent months especially against its leader jeremy corbyn his fellow labor m.p. margaret hodge who lost members of our family in the holocaust said corbin was an anti semitic racist while three of the main jewish newspapers in the u.k. described him as an existential threat to british jews the labor leader has been accused of sharing platforms the holocaust deniers and making offensive remarks about british zionists his supporters though argue that coburn is a lifelong anti racist and that the attacks against him are syria's designed to discredit his strong support for palestinians and prevent criticism of israel so is the labor leader really guilty of anti semitism or evil of turning a blind eye to it joining me from london to debate this are michael rosen an award
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winning novelist and poet. are you jewish corben supporter danniella palermo a writer and contributor to the israeli newspaper ha'aretz a former foreign editor of the jewish chronicle and the jewish corben critic thank you both for joining me in the arena. speaking on wednesday at his party's annual conference in liverpool germany called and said we will work with the jewish communities to eradicate anti semitism both from our party and wider society he says there's a problem he says he's dealing with it that doesn't sound like it does it mr corbin has not won the confidence the support of the vast majority of british and although you can find it his supporters have cherrypicked people who are speaking out. in support of him i've never seen such a consensus amongst this very very diverse community feeling that labor is no longer a comfortable place for them and for our global audience who haven't been following the details of this how would you sum up in kind of if you can sum it up why the
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british jewish community has this consensus that labor is no longer a comfortable place for them. well mr colvin is part of the traditionally far left of labor who have quite a binary view of the world's divided up into nice and parry lists like iran russia satin syria the nasty western imperialists like america israel nice. as well and in this very binary reading of foreign affairs jews end up as white imperialists and i think this view has now become quite dominant in the party. that makes jewish people people who are not really that bothered about israel one way or another feel that they are being sidelines and being discriminated against and most importantly that when they say this is anti semitism they call out instances of prejudice that tell that this is somehow
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a smith and marco rosen it's not all a smear is it. well i think first we're going to have to rank database and sort out some definitions here we talk about the jewish community as if there is just one community it's not really strictly speaking true and there are plenty of jews in the labor party i'm not in the labor party but i support jeremy colby just to be clear do you at least recognize we could argue about the numbers but a big chunk of the british jewish community is unhappy with labor under coal bin because they perceive it as not a safe space or a comfortable space or a friendly space for british do you concede that is the perception even if you disagree with the reasoning behind it yes of course it is absolutely but then of course exactly as daniela says a large percentage of the jewish community if that's were going to call it a large percentage of jews are in favor of israel but not all jews for a moment and i have no attachment to that place over there but of course i understand that plenty of jews do plenty of jews are brought up to believe that
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israel is their homeland even if they don't make it their homeland it is there for them as they believe of course. but there are other people living there this is the crucial point about israel there are other people not recognized by the recent nation state law how much of this is to do with the israel palestine conflict with this thorny debate over zionism. when you do have the chief rabbi and the former chief rabbi of the u.k. both saying that there's him as a form of id semitism it doesn't muddy the water when we're trying to work out what is bigotry what is hatred what is legitimate political criticism doesn't and i think the real problem here is this accusation that critics of corbin jewish critics of course been. criticizing him as part of a smear campaign because their real interests are in defending israel apparently or they're all conservative voters who are weaponized anti semitism as this political toll and that feeds straight into as classic anti-semitic traipse that i've been exposed to as well as
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a reporter. writing about israel palestine that jews are more loyal to each other and by extension israel than the countries that they live in the countries that they're citizens of now this doesn't say jeremy corbin's comments about scientists not understanding irony a classic example of this kind of attitude that i've experienced over and over again and i think that is the most wounding and the missed damaging part of this whole thing marco and i to drill down into labor in germany want to get your sense of where you stand is your position that jeremy corbyn that he's done nothing wrong and that this is a smear campaign from the right or from supporters of israel or is it your position that perhaps he's used bad language in the past or he's said the wrong thing or does he have a blind spot for this stuff maybe that's what some of suggested supporters of his where do you stand i think the basic mistake he has made mistakes is he hasn't been vocal enough in defying and picking back if you like because he's not
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a linguist he's not he's a politician and he thinks that he has a normal ball thing to do which is to support the rights of justice and peace in the middle east and justice for the palestinians and he thinks that has nothing to do directly with discrimination against jews discrimination against jews or indeed prejudice against jews in britain that's what he things are growing larger i agree with any other. why i would feel interesting today from you then what would be my motivations as a lifelong labor voters have a saying there is a real problem with anti-semitism in labor in my part of the smear a lie in the heart of a conservative being funded by the israeli embassy there are plenty of people who stand up for palestinian rights and say there is a problem you are tying yourself in knots to try and justify what's not justifiable when boris johnson made his really rather unpleasant comments about muslim women looking let's about this people dealt with those comments as they were on the merits or rather the lack of there is no missing this is part of
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a left wing conspiracy trying to. derail a potential government led by boris johnson let's look at what he has said and judge it on its merits and those merits a very lacking well as it happens to any other i haven't said it's a right wing conspiracy or anybody's conspiracy sitting here if some people do well you know they've worked out that maybe there are some relationships between jews in britain and israel and israelis i'm not saying that though i what i would say is that the media in this country was very reluctant no smear there's no allegations a smear most vocal hang on most vocal about it had very important positions and recognized positions in the conservative party or right and so had those links and indeed the ex chief rabbi was a great great very fond of margaret thatcher so it's not as if the only agenda these people had in attacking called the chief rabbi of making accusations of anti-semitism is a tory well all i'm saying is that just
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a not investigate of the reasons why people might want to attack a labor leader is quite important to remember the last labor leader we had was attacked for having a father who was a jewish traitor by a tory newspaper the daily mail ed miliband who was the first jewish leader of the labor party didn't win a majority of jews to support twenty fifteen and a lot of the anti semitism cases at a local level it did turn up on his leadership on his watch so it is some would say it is unfair to put this all at corbin's door the bad relationship between the labor party and british jewish communities would you concede. i think as i said i think it's possible to massacre of a wider issue in the fact that his leadership has emboldened a section of the far left that has always held these radii rather extreme views towards british jews as being wealthy as being part of the ruling class caps a lesson being in perry lists and covert has not taken significant action he hasn't
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spoken as an apologized all made consultations it have any kind of here he has apologized to believe me i will not be hearing several times or has a need for making mistakes for not dealing with this soon enough and he's now come out this week in the conference and said we want to eradicate and seven as we won't tolerate this in the party he is and really shouldn't you know house or home and supported jews over twenty years he's party supported early day motions as we call them in the house of commons here supported jews count ten times over the last twenty five years so you know he's no idea exactly and then tell me where is would have been i will say to you that of course there is a problem as there is in the whole society i'm repeating if you like exactly what john landsman the leader of one of the supporting groups but there are plenty of jews in the labor party i came from a left wing jewish tradition that thought that one of the ways we could all madill with our problems and. values who are one of the ways was to join labor and
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socialist parties i want to define the issue of the problem down as i hear that you didn't hold on hold on danielle are saying that europe you know you're denying the problem you're saying there's a problem in labor are there in as there is with the rest of society corben himself said in a statement recently anyone who denies that this is surfaced in our party is clearly actually wrong and contributing to the problem it's not enough to just say well everyone's got a disability and problem and therefore do a bit of what about of them is it i agree because obviously the labor party is founded on universalistic ideas of human rights it claims to be an anti racist party. so of course jeremy well we we do have a problem if we have any m.t.c. marks in the labor party that may be anti semites out there in society but it's our job to root it out of the labor party indeed so let me ask you has done it before we finish what is the solution moving forward for this for two relationship between british jews and the labor party on the call but is there a solution or is it too late i'm afraid i can't see one right now i think that
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there's been a lack of effort to show you could well a lack of communication and i think this extends to a wide range of issues i have passed a more problems of the labor party syria on ukraine and other foreign affairs issues than i do on on israel palestine but i think the gas is just. trust has been eroded how is a long time to come michael trust has been eroded how does jeremy corbyn get it back or or can he not get it back and i don't know i'm no great crystal ball gazer but the interesting thing here is the question to ask is all those people who are opposed to jeremy coburn over this matter are they interested in eradicating anti semitism or are they interested in eradicating jeremy colby and that's what the plotting all this summer before has been about let's get rid of colby michael rosen danniella pledge we'll have to leave it there thank you very much for joining me in the arena that's our show up front we've got thanks.
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