freeman and they would have to severely ran for that ties with iran for that day i think that would be very willing to do that also because both sides are something we have to highlight here both sides the coalition as well as there were these are in a merchant mutually hurting stalemate that's to say both of them understand that continuing this war as it stands today will hurt them more than a political settlement and i think that's why both sides are interested in it however it has to come with certain guarantees and that is the key problem if there are no guarantees i think though these will continue getting the funding and reach out to the iranians to get that funding but to continue with the narrative of saying the who these are merely an iranian proxy that has to be exterminated is not going to provide any solution to the conflict and i think that the coalition has now understood that he said i'll come to you just a bit but first let me give some a right to reply here would u.s. pressure on iran. alter the outcome of any peace talks on yemen to what extent do

the who things need iranian support do you think to maintain their hold on the country one hundred percent i mean i'm really surprised you know to hear this you know from my colleagues from london say that the hooty does not they don't depend on iran they depend on them hundred percent they are the proxies are for the ukrainians they can do anything without iran. the husband expert the brigades. so thoroughly the revolutionary guards of iran experts and even fighters they are in sauda they are in there they are among the who with these the who sees you knows firing missiles proceeding messias you know to saudi arabia is with the help of the experts from iran so the who three are in fact another brigade of the iranian revolutionary guard a simple as that they represent five percent of the of the emmy's population so

your question is the next november is going to be the end of the iranian regime effect and the country believe it or not and under who theories there who says if they want to be to act and to be considered as yemenis under it but sent they have to act immediately under stop fighting and and and and and you know surrender not surrender uglies in a pull out of amid the major cities agree to the table you know come to the table to the unit to these token table and say you know anything we need to be meant for twenty to sixteen ok who say hussein you want you want to come in there who things are the proxy of yemen they rely on the. proxy of iran i'm sorry they rely on iran one hundred percent what's your response to that. i mean let's say if if what he said like is true about the proxy for iran and yemen the united arab emirates and saudi arabia is a proxy as well for the united states and united kingdom supplies the although our

business from there the the world was declared from washington d.c. was not declared from saudi arabia to keep just blame in iran and iran and iran actually i mean look at this the bull blockade about forty years they controlled or yemen sky they destroyed all the airport control the sea. how can it run as you mentioned supply all this weapon so this means that you are blockade actually that you started to stop the flow of weapons as you meant to yemen has failed this mean that you are responsible for all do civilians that have died because of of the saudi led coalition in yemen and his believe his commitment he when he spoke about that there was many agreement that has been signed with the holy but during the like the biggest piece told but they haven't like it kept the world he doesn't mention any agreement in kuwait they haven't signed anything the what was in kuwait was about they have the political process and they had the security process that's

out there that coalition want to start with the security process asking the movement to hunt their weapons and they said then we will start of a political process no one is crazy will hunt is his weapons before before the before started forming either a coalition government between between all parties in yemen and what the saudi actually need in yemen they want i think three they want agreement and the. and we have seen what the saudis have done we would have said i guess that you an. expert report they refuse this report and they even say that we are not going to deal with the with the with the with the u n x better to anymore so they just want a port or of peace. all court anything that is in favor of this i would be led led coalition war in yemen if the united states and the united kingdom actually has not supported us over the i don't think they could have even started the war in yemen

on is it really silly for someone to ask these which is yemeni to withdraw from cities why we have a for a kind of foreign invasion the that's why they call it so do you that coalition is not a civil war is a quote he said made from one of the most dictatorship country and the region who wanted it in a state democracy in yemen who can believe that. address i know you want to come back on that we're rapidly running out of time here. i want to ask you would a peace deal between the who is and yemen's government in the country's civil war and i know you said the first of all we're going to achieve a cease fire but if it got as far as a peace deal could that bring about an end to the civil war and to what extent is the u.s. exacerbating the situation in yemen right now. a lot of questions there i mean first of all yes i said what we need is a ceasefire and this will be a ceasefire between the saudi and u.a.e. coalition the hard the government and the who are these only and that is one war of

many wars that are going on in yemen at the moment one big elephant in the room that we haven't spoken about is the southern movement is the s.t.c. are the various proxies of the emirate is in the south they have their own lives have their own objectives and are pursuing their own agenda which for the most part is very much secession is that when itself will create and will continue to pose a problem as we move along and if we don't address that then a peace deal between the who these and the hard the government and the coalition might bring peace or a somewhat a settlement in the north but will create a whole bunch of other spoilers in the same way that the who these have been spoilers to in a sense to two thousand and twelve you know when the who these drew withdrew from the from the two thousand and twelve from the national dialogue they became spoilers to the conflict the only reason they expanded and were actually able to receive support and also used their military action to gain control of territory

was because they were not included in the peace deal afterwards there were excluded and that created the problem now when we have a peace deal now a peace project or a peace negotiations and we leave all these other actors around in the east and then the south out of this process you're never going to create an inclusive process for yemen and i think that is going to be one of the major problem ok united states as far as that the united states is concerned i mean you know with continued arm sales to saudi arabia the u.a.e. by certifying as it did recently that the coalition is meeting the requirements of the national defense or the reservation act. as the crisis group says sending the wrong message at the wrong time they mean that the the coalition can continue to act with impunity. yes because it's part of a war over narratives against iran they have framed the yemen conflict as a war against iran and i think that is misleading because the yemeni war will continue with or without the iranians and so the problem is that the americans are giving support to a coalition that is so far has been has been has been attacked for war crimes and

have you know we've got all kinds of evidence for that and a coalition that doesn't seem to so doesn't seem to pursue until now a political process so i think the americans have to put pressure and the reason that alger bear and all the other g.c.c. countries particularly saudi in the u.a.e. are now willing to talk about a political process in yemen is because the trumpet ministration has made it clear that they will have to see a change on the ground in the way they conduct themselves because there's a lot of pressure from congress and also obviously in europe a lot of pressure from the public asking questions of why are we continuously supporting the saudis and the moralities when they don't stand and stick by international humanitarian law and i think this kind of pressure is now felt in riyadh and up with envy and that's why i think partially they're trying to come around but so far we have it's all talk we haven't seen any action on the ground because the walk continues and so far there is no sign that there will be any political process gentlemen them afraid we must leave it many thanks to work to all

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big. incent temba nine hundred ninety three itzhak rabin and yasser arafat's also known as abu omar shook hands on the white house lawn. the negotiations leading here with secret and mediated by norwegian politicians. the talks were conducted through should do you guys a chance to maintain secrecy and cover everything strax. the oslo trade union think tank did a study in the early ninety's on the living conditions of palestinians in occupied territories. but it was a cover for these secret negotiations between the p.l.o. and israel as part of the standards of living survey that was

undertaken in the palestinian areas i had authorized money for this project and these were the money that could also fund the talks in australia would have not started if for example the father would have not invited us to go to war nor we are presumed that if i would say pay for yourself that would have not happened i mean this is funny things but that's life all what we did when it came to stationery all the papers were also to fall for paper in order to leave no trace of any kind no official no written in well meant. to stop but i decided to use the money to search institute that's awful and he was ahead of off at the time so he also asked me to ask mr to to receive. in tunis the party.

didn't want to do it directly with the foreign ministry. because they wanted to have what the phrase deniability so in december night in a. matter of. move them and most of the first. cattle well clear that a lot of the any more prefer to give to forgive if. the fossey sure walker fanatic. yanni or. one. of our mind behind that new innovation. in this house one hundred kilometers from oslo near the swedish border two israelis three palestinians and four norwegians met three times in early one nine hundred ninety

three. these gatherings led to what later became known as the oslo accords. the oslo negotiations actually started with two israelis one of them is me the other is dr hugh shrilled we were two academicians with huge knowledge about the history of the conflict we would always play is if we are representing billion and i had also my contacts within the labor party. i knew yossi beilin and you shimon peres she won paris was a friend of my parents so i knew him very well of whom can know how we do and i knew what the i'm on to some. i don't know home a could be me in law look at the long three or c.s.e. look at home loans or doc if you my sister could help me slightly kind of had the flu and all have worked through my feeling of i'm at it down here and full of. that

came with two people that they know we didn't know it thought that they were his bodyguards but they were one discussed in a school who was from the office of a muslim and second is that my real cool doctor might be good who was from that cannot it was an economy economic expert from the office of of of of out there one of the questions language was in english and when ever the palestinian felt the need to say something which is more accurate in arabic of the talked in albuquerque and was translated to english by michael cooled and we both of us we knew a bit of a big so we could also assist or feet name to let the yani abu mazin. home alone the no phone and had he a forward of feed tunis in the read single moment it must have been three or four people the premise to myself and the defense minister but that was all we had a meeting. with also talking about his office in fed nobody questioned it's

not. been be involved at all. well where you live a very different people from i mean it's the i mean the name they're all this but i've followed them and this is the fourth again the method of it that i believe. we can team which was based on mainly on the deputy minister for the first young egeland his right hand you were the wife of tony lawson entirely lost and we started talking about. very private things family songs so that. their kids and in order to help them to relate to each other as human beings they had to live in the same house have breakfast lunch dinner together. and not leave the premises for the time that they were there. because if you didn't then go for your more top under there and you know tell me follow up on what is here to do food

well food to be shipped in a well and sure area on e bay a guy who was. there any number which led to the water. because i briefed and clearly had with my boss talk started back that we could do this and i kept him. updated throughout the. the talks but he did not participate in any of the torch and they went back we were very active both on the phone in order then because they didn't obviously didn't speak to each other then so we were sort of the message is growing. to the two of them went through us and of course we also then tested outside of i mean certain things either for the palestinians today as well is that vice versa maybe do you think you could accept if we did like days so we do like the seven m.

and these kinds of things they were able to play these very senior people off a soldier. and of a general meaning if we needed coffee the deputy minister for first would have come with coffee if we needed an idea he would come with idea if we needed that somebody would speak with him for mr kristol first state department so the same man who brought us coffee were also able to speak with christopher which is from our point of view was a classical environment allowing us to dictate what should be the world and it was perfect it was the best in his book the new middle east shimon peres wrote the no we jews were a gift from heaven. after the first round of talks the israelis began drafting what they called a declaration of principles the second meeting which took place some three form weeks later was from my point of view the most crucial meeting to make.

this meeting of two sides into a channel and what happened the was that we came in with the people. this one show was disgusted by. the building so the paper and indorsed it because the nordica also is that you started with an assist and then you postponed the most difficult hoping that the parties would find a way as they walked that road to resolve their more difficult issues all. difficult questions. of security jerusalem palestinian refugees borders you name it all of them are taken up. and they should not be discussed. for hey you know the government will not need to own. you know head here. so for lend your comic journal let go of what you'd done people

asked if it was. self rule called palestinians in gaza in the schools will say jericho army it was self rule all so i think five specific area education tourism health valinor them up in o.e. there will be is an end to the book. with the leadership in. that movie little thought that a newcomer. in or feel. unable to deal for us the need to do to know that you don't see at the head. of one oh what a kick up the maternal fold while asserts we are ready to let the palestinians run their own life and on an environment have a government to solve in all slow the problems that we had in the negotiations in

washington which led us to know my counterpart beilin whom i kept contact with swore that enormous progress was made in the talks with who was a real leader on the p.l.o. side and would not have made his concessions without knowing and clearing it. was also involved throughout. the talks continued in sops muslim two days a month. meanwhile the official public negotiations in washington d.c. came to an abrupt halt when israel expelled four hundred palestinians to march on zahoor in southern lebanon. obama yanni. human and knew the help you must lower than missile union will cause the. most to

show lee. elbaz a sent word to tel aviv that arafat approved israel's first proposal that the p.l.o. could have a foothold in the gaza strip and jericho specifically the message to lead to. a peace process and not go beyond that by far the very look at the border what we reach in the first four months was a document which you called the south of the document which was a full out going to few pre-negotiation document we never thought that this document could be signed by the senior thought that maybe. i should have asked the american embassy and us know to fix me up with a secure line to state department so i went up there and had what updated them two three times on progress towards the the sub spoke

gov the initial draft agreement that was february one thousand and three was february and march and april where we did these things and was talking about even gave the the original. draft first version of the ostrow agreement if you like to warren christopher. and he was very interested in this fellow u.s. secretary of state warren christopher was monitoring both the secret all slow and the official washington negotiations the israelis decided after eighteen months that the washington talks were not going to reach agreement united states is very long with our core sponsors of the russian government to play our role or partners in this process to assist in any way we can parties to go she is for we always for anything that would. make life easier. provided.

security and our sustain you don't know how frustrated we are. we. we came here with a strong as with. the show our intention about peace. but certainly we cannot bear the responsibility of continuing with the peace process that's not promising anything and i want to. the must work with local for saddam and for this team. but i'm an american i had out of an owner before that of there's nobody knew anything about the channel and whenever there was a ledge we immediately jointly were able to quiet it we were all course criticized for this secrecy. but without the secrecy it would not have worked at

all. the norwegian prime minister announcing the departure of a foreign minister about to begin a new role as un peace maker friend in formative years. i hope. so. i didn't really want to have a vote and that both to quoth would like to see the process through. because i was then they optimistic stoltenberg successor as foreign minister was his brother in law former defense minister johan you're going holst holst had been a strong supporter of israel since the early seventy's on your going on sports very keenly he asked for us to do whatever we call it to make progress he had already had signals from tel yeah but lawson and more not you who of course knew him well

through my on the hay back his wife who worked at farfel in new enough. i briefly. from. him messes and they asked. they did some in the beginning. from bulk of them but the evil option for this shannon was off today that it may after mr holst because instead of one if s. the israelis also introduced a new face at the oslo talks their general manager at the foreign ministry who received via. formalised the purse asked me to look at this document and potentially but dissipate in this channel i was very glad i think that something good happened to the p.l.o. they finally began to see that the armed struggle will lead them nowhere. that's

actually the biggest enemy is their biggest ally and partner is when. they met for the first time up back there i am sort of small caught it up at home call mr famous ski jump and this poor area i. just lived outside. at home i could tell that is out next and only so weird with it where did he stay i think he stayed in our our flat that that night that's right that's right yeah i'm a big believer in secret negotiations so at the end the public knows the outcome and not the intermediary concessions. and then what we knew we had about two three months. and three months we did it. in this hotel they all slowed arisa via used his first meeting with the palestinians to stress three deal breaking israeli

conditions. first no negotiations over jerusalem or the return of refugees. second no u.n. involvement or international arbitration. and third that the public facing washington talks continue in parallel with the secret negotiations. the palestinians accepted all three. brother. martin who are sort of a journalist you know one of them is more of a dude than looked on as a lawyer where i'm going to have are no more like him her if you have to look at a year or two from one pair of islam into a problem and marketable are being far so large a sum of all did or schools and a good. joel singer contribution was to ask hundreds of

questions on the other side to really understand what what this would mean how p.l.o. would treat this what would be their them as a counterpart they i think felt it was quite offensive in one way to be interrogated like that mental illness elliptical after missile how two are the stoughton in from an article.