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what you can give to your trading partners that isn't going to hurt you perhaps as much as having no deal at all one of the most relieved people in the country today has to be the prime minister of justin trudeau who we saw off the top here and who spoke just a little while ago about just how difficult this process has been this is an extraordinarily complex agreement just as the original nafta was but let me sum up what it means it means that when this agreement is in that did not have to will be preserved updated modernised and stabilized for the twenty first century as we set out to do it means canadian workers and their families will enjoy greater opportunities than ever before and more prosperity means more reservists is to invest in things like housing health care and a more secure retirement for our seniors. well frankly there's a great deal of truth in what he's saying is well this country's prosperity
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absolutely depends on access to the u.s. market and to a much lesser degree to the mexican market to the now that market if you were as it was this country does three quarters of its trade here in north america and it's unthinkable that there couldn't have been a deal but we will probably see in the coming days those groups weighed in in canada who have not really seen this deal as the thing they wanted and we'll hear their detailed objections as it moves forward to the parliament of canada to consider and eventually ratify now daniel we should point out of course the what this new deal does not include is the steel and alimony and terrorists that the u.s. had had slapped on canada but the white house is saying that that is that is something that's going to be dealt with separately it's on a it's on a separate track how important is it though for for prime minister trudeau to get that done and get those tariffs removed. well that's got to happen i mean i don't think this deal could have happened without some assurances from the american
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side that steel an element of terror of are going to be dealt with and removed from canada's point of view it was an irritant it was a major problem and in fact canada the closest ally of the united states in almost every sphere in the world is having its steel and our minium slapped with tariffs because of national security reasons what it is probably is concerned about chinese and other asian countries dumping steel through their canadian subsidiaries and i understand the canadians have given assurances to their american colleagues about will not happen anymore so i think we'll see those lifted or dealt with in the coming days all right daniel and lifeless there in toronto let's turn then to john homan in mexico city for st john how mexicans welcoming this. makes go out to the trade deal worked out with the united states last month but kind of the entering it really changes things for them and will be a big relief to the mexican government as well and that's because of bilateral
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trade deal between the u.s. and mexico is a real david and goliath sort of tug of war in which mexico and never displease going to see the lot of ground now that kind of the reason also in both in this it gives more points of view it gives a possible light to mexico if their interests align on certain things so this is very much welcomed by mexico in the mexican government the mets can president said this was a win win win referring to the three countries involved in the trade deal from a skirt really it's not that much of a win in terms of the fact that the deal that they had nothing they have to cede some ground especially in terms of the also industry rosalynn spoken about about a little bit earlier but i think what they feel is that they haven't had to say see too much ground to make this. one of the key things over. they have to give up on was in terms of workers payments is salaries now about forty percent of
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a car will have to be made by workers. sorry forty percent of cars will have to be made by workers who are earning sixteen dollars now mexican workers in car park plants about three dollars an hour so obviously that's a huge jump what the incoming administration trying to do here they take power in december is to put a positive spin on that there are a leftist incoming government they say well we want to make sure that workers have better wages you want to make sure we have better unions that's what this deal has laid down and so this is potentially a good thing in the medium and the long term from its current heading foods john home and thanks very much hundreds of bodies have been buried in a mass grave but indonesia is bracing for many more mass funerals in the days ahead as it struggles with the aftermath of an earthquake and tsunami the official death toll is now at eight hundred forty four but that is likely to rise into the
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thousands a fourteen day state of emergency has been put in place across the island of soon away z. where many remote areas remain cut off and more than eight hundred of the dead have been in power only a handful from the region of dongola which remains isolated there is no road access and no air port in dongola andrew thomas is in pa so on his way to. trying to reach you can't. direct in any way. i think we need to. the ones. who were trafficked trying to get. a six hour drive away from. the nearest place that we could. get. because they're worried about relatives they want to.
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buy the military. big. and many hundreds of people. with a long. it was able to cope. very different. quickly as possible so as well as all these people. should be reaching into. national court of justice in the hague has rejected bolivia's bid for access to the
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pacific ocean to chile the ruling which comes after five years of deliberations is final the court said chile was not a blind to negotiate granting bolivia access landlocked libya lost access to the sea in one thousand nine hundred four after a war with chile it's trying to regain it ever since libya argues that reopening a route to the pacific would have helped boost trade and revive its economy. let's get more on this now from teresa bo who is live for us in argentina's capital osiris so what does this ruling mean and where where things go from here. well there's definitely lots of disappointment in morley rio we know that people in love in the capital were gathering in plazas ready to watch a ruling that they hope would be on the positive for them many and people in bolivia are traumatized over the loss of their coastline in the one thousand nine hundred war and they hoped that the hague would be on their side is that it did not
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happen however the hague says that both countries that chile and believe you should try to find a peaceful solution to this conflict that will bring this conflict to an end this is a big blow for president it will not al is one of us first indigenous president who has been many fail using this whole case to win political capital he's hoping to run for his fourth term in next year's presidential election however and in spite of the negative winning this five years has shed light on what it is what libya says is one of the biggest challenges it faces as a country of a developing nation because it is one of the poorest in south america and having access to see would definitely help them revive their economy what do you get that it loses billions of dollars every year because of not ad being able to access that field having to export and import products through chilean ports so precedent over
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what alice has said that he will continue to fight peacefully for dialogue with sheila a chilean president the afghan vignetting has said that she won't give him any type of territory and has accused morales of giving his people false hope. what was a stake here for chile because perhaps anyone who is not familiar with the jug of fear this year you only have to look at a map of south america to see that chile has plenty of coastline so what was the issue for them. well president elect empanada says that he won't be giving him any type of territory in five chile has a very large coastline this specific area specially northern chile at the border with libya is pretty rich in call for for example and they're saying that territory won't be negotiable however president evo morales folk that is thought copper they're interested in our territory need help but act of them being able to import
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and export their products to other parts of the world so this has been a conflict that it has been going on for many many years now and have been involved in at least one type of negotiations in the last sixty years and it will not he said that he willing to continue a dialogue with dialogue peacefully with chile in there in the days to come all right theresa bely first there in point of. iran's a military says it's hit positions in syria linked to a group it suspects was behind last week's attack on i'm a little military parade in the city of out of us several myside struck the region of eastern syria last week twenty five people were killed when gunmen opened fire on that parade many of the victims were members of the elite iranian revolutionary guard. as ready forces have ordered palestinians in order to destroy their own
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village and leave by midnight on monday they say if the deadline is not met they'll go in and demolish the village themselves last month israeli supreme court approved the demolition to make way for more settlements. meanwhile palestinian activists are expressing solidarity with us part of a general strike that was organized to protest against israel's nation state law school stores and other facilities have been shut across the occupied west bank gaza and east jerusalem the nation state law was passed by the israeli knesset in july and gives the right of self-determination to jewish people only. brazil which is holding presidential elections on october seventh is a giants in size an economy that has been struck by widespread corruption but a large percentage of candidates tied to some of brazil's worst corruption scandals
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are expected to be reelected latin america at its newman reports from must sail. from one in the morning till long after dawn men dive into this lagoon in northeastern brazil to scoop out mussels from the mud with their bare hands. on shore their wives like twenty five year old. sorting clean the shells. on a good day the family can make five dollars barely enough to feed her sons just so lanny is eligible for a social program called media that could significantly improve their lives have a little sip look at them ali but i've never been approved i don't know why they spend so much time evaluating my request and i've never managed to get it. one explanation can be found at the state legislature or twelve deputies are being investigated for pocketing funds allocated to the program we were told they were
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out campaigning for reelection corruption in brazil spreads from the local level to the very top in southeastern former president lula da silva is serving a twelve year sentence as part of a multi-billion dollar corruption probe that snared dozens of businessmen and high ranking politicians but there are hundreds of more politicians accused of corruption who haven't been touched and who in fact are running in this month's elections as candidates for the senate the lower house and even the presidency and if some aura lect in which of course they will be they will enjoy immunity from prosecution which in many cases is the point. back in northeastern brazil. we found senator allen one k. yodels who has eight outstanding criminal investigations campaigning with his son the governor but here you know when you shocked it's a historical problem but just like everywhere sometimes you see him
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as affects off life he says people often vote for corrupt officials they think may give them the most benefits. but those benefits rarely trickle down to the bottom of the social ladder it's a bit of it in love with bill that we need to have faith in god says just experience has taught her that having faith in politicians is pointless. you see in human al-jazeera muscle brazil or the nobel prize for medicine has been awarded to two immunologists for their work in cancer therapies james p. allison and. separately discovered and developed cancer treatments which improve the human immune system so the body can better attack cancer cells the nobel prize in physiology or medicine is awarded every year for outstanding discoveries in health or life sciences let's take
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a look back at the history of the prize. the first when i was a male adult then bearing in one thousand or one he found the antibodies could be transferred between people and animals and took diptheria antibodies from horses to create a human vexing early laureate's one for breakthroughs in and fictious diseases and bacteria like robert cog who identify the per kilo suspect ariel i'm ronald ross who uncovered that malaria sprayed by mosquitoes in the twenty's and thirty's prizes were awarded for discovering insulin the electrocardiogram or e.c.g. even the concept of blood groups after a brief hiatus for world war two the nobel prize in physiology or medicine returned awarding one of the biggest breakthroughs of the century alexander fleming one for discovering penicillin the foundation for a modern antibiotics chain and how would florrie we're also watered the whole thing to turn it into the drug we know today is a coup considerations roves as time and science progressed robert edwards one and
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twenty ten for developing in vitro fertilization what he did was to develop in several steps a method whereby you can take exe from the. eggs meet the spirit. of the potter in a test tube or in vitro which means less forty years later i.v. if has resulted in more than eight million babies recently focus has shifted toward gender imbalance among award winners and physiology in medicine they have been two hundred fourteen when as they have been overwhelmingly white male and whiston the orange dots twelve of them represent women. french armenian singer charles as a novel has died in france he was ninety four years old tributes are pouring in from all over the world as the tasha butler reports from paris rose are again. all over or his voice was distinctive full of warmth and often drama his songs
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could be upbeat i'll stick to melancholy and nostalgia. a. dozen of all was one of france's most versatile and famous performers a singer songwriter and movie actor he recorded a thousand two hundred songs and starred in world in eighty films and t.v. shows in a career that lasted nearly eighty years julia as never was born in paris in one thousand nine hundred twenty four his parents are settled in france off to the mass killings in armenia many of his songs recalled growing up as a poor immigrant in one nine hundred forty six he had a lucky break french sing it if p. at was so impressed with his talent that she took him on tour. from there his career took off not just in france but around the world he told relentlessly and in twenty seventeen he was awarded a star on the hollywood walk of fame is not important for you remember what is really important to norgrove mo who work with you remember. despite his success the
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singing never his on the news groups he dedicated his spare time to helping the country and became a figurehead for the armenian. doesn't have all died at home in france aged ninety four it returned from a tour in japan and was preparing for shows in europe until the very end his ardent passion for life that fueled his desire to perform and he thrilled fans and special partner how to see how. it is al-jazeera is going to round up of our top stories u.s. president donald trump has sealed a new three way agreement with canada and mexico the replacement for nafta was reached following a late night talks in ottawa before a u.s. imposed deadline trunk came to office promising to scrap the original deal that had
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lasted twenty four years long contended that nafta was perhaps the worst trade deal ever made since nafta is adoption the united states racked up trade deficits totaling more than two trillion dollars and it's a much higher number than that with canada and mexico it lost vast amounts of money and lost four point one million manufacturing jobs and one in four auto jobs lost about twenty five percent of auto jobs even more than. throughout the campaign promise to renegotiate nafta and today we have kept that promise the official death toll from the earthquake and tsunami in indonesia is eight hundred forty four but that figure is expected to go into the thousands mass graves are being dug in indonesia's president has said he is welcoming international help most of the confirmed dead are in power lou only
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a hand for from the region of dongola which is still largely cut off iran's military says it's hip resistance in syria linked to a group it suspects was behind last week's attack on a military parade in the city of us several missiles struck the region in eastern syria last week twenty five people were killed when gunmen opened fire on the parade. the u.k. minister responsible for making sure brags it happened says his government is preparing for a no deal divorce from europe dominic rob was addressing the annual conservative party conference in burning him there are less than six months to go before the u.k. is due to leave the european union the nobel prize for medicine has been awarded to two immunologists for their work in cancer therapies james p. allison and joe separately discovered and developed cancer treatments which improve the human immune system the body can better attack cancer cells allison is based in
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the u.s. honcho is japanese those are the headlines inside story is next. salvaged at the last minute a new trade deal for canada up with the united states and mexico and replaces the contentious north american free trade agreement but is it a win win situation but have serious compromises been made this is inside story.
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hello welcome to the program i'm adrian finnegan it was billed as the world's largest free trade area affecting five hundred million people when the north american free trade agreement on nafta was signed in one thousand nine hundred four barriers were removed and trade boomed but critics argued that it decimated several manufacturing hubs in the u.s. with companies taking advantage of low wages in mexico to shift operation south u.s. president donald trump promised to rewrite nafta or get rid of it completely high pressure negotiations followed an unpopular outgoing government in mexico struck a deal in august long time ally canada was left out and relations deteriorated between trump and canada's prime minister justin trudeau but the countries need each other economically and both appear to have found things they like in the new agreement to be called the united states mexico canada agreement or u.s. m.c.a. well the us and canada in a joint statement said that us m.c.a.
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will give our workers farmers ranchers and businesses a high standard trade agreement that will result in freedom. it's fairer trade and robust economic growth in our region it will strengthen the middle class and create good well paying jobs and new opportunities for the nearly half a billion people who call north america home so what was agreed upon well canada is giving us farmers greater access to its dairy market but it gets to retain the trade dispute settlement mechanism established by nafta washington that earlier demanded that american court should rule on cases filed by canada against u.s. duties on imports both canada and mexico one protections against president trump's threat to impose twenty five percent tariffs on cars but under the deal forty to forty five percent of any car completed in mexico needs to be built in countries where workers are at least sixteen dollars an hour only then will the car qualify for duty free benefits let's bring in our guests for today's discussion from
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washington we're joined by chris can see he is c.e.o. of vic a financial he was early a deputy director at the u.s. department of commerce on the president trump and from also a cullen robertson a former canadian diplomat who is part of the team that goes hated nafta back in the one nine hundred ninety s. gentlemen welcome to you both chris let's start with you is this a good deal for all concerned or just for the u.s. . you know it's a great deal for everyone frankly i think this is why all three parties have now reached this agreement today october first the us mexico canada agreement has tackled several issues that again twenty five years ago perhaps could not have predicted intellectual property rights have increased worker protections environmental standards have increased frankly the u.s. has more access now to the canadian dear dairy markets as you've mentioned and we're having more auto parts and auto beals frankly made in the united states mexico and canada and this is truly a tradition i would say a complete reorientation of the supply chain away from southeast asia back to north
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america i think all three nations can be proud of that ok conan a deal between the two of the sides the canada a and the u.s. side appeared to be slipping out of reach is least recently as well last week when donald trump made those those disparaging comments about canada is to go see it as that press conference what's changed. well i think as you point out don't jump at the united nations last week if it one of us would call it trump or options but in a way it's straight out of the playbook of art of the deal if you read his book he puts maximum pressure there's bullying there's bravado there's bluster before a deal is reached and i think the cain ago shaders and the canadian prime minister mr trudeau in our no shader who need it also slammed christopher even our foreign minister and just park that and said ok this is just this we are now more used to this after a year and a half of the trump administration what was important for us was to retain that
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access to the united states because we over the past year that our governor bank and our major companies have all said there's been a chilling up investment in canada yes we now have access to the european market through the new comprehensive european trade agreement and we are course with mexico part of the trans-pacific partnership that mr trump pulled out of and what's interesting adrian is that this agreement that we've just signed with united states and mexico most closely resembles the transpacific partnership both in language and informant as chris points out is an updating of it my own sense it is. with the trade offs a win win win for all three nations chris under this tail us fall is going to get access to three and a half percent of canada's sixteen billion dollar dairy market now to me three percent doesn't sound a lot why is that being touted as a success. i think it's greater than the three percent that was agreed to and
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that's transpacific partnership i'm not sure if that's the actual number that is coming out of the announcement that's being made today but i know that that is significantly more than we have now i think canada is quite protective as collins pointed out of its of its dairy markets they want to ensure that of course the canadian farmers do not go bankrupt the united states has similar protections in place for our farmers here we want to take care of our own we want to take care of our heartland if you will but i think that moving toward even if it's a few percentage points at a time toward a more free open and reciprocal trading arrangement in areas like dairy and access to canadian very markets i think that's an ultimately a step forward rather than a step backward but again in exchange for that you know we're also getting our actions say in addition to that we're also getting access to more parts production more automobile production in united states i think that is a major major victory for both the us and canada that the sixteen dollars per hour
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requirement on the thirty percent of vehicle part production must be done of course with labor of above sixteen dollars per hour that is about three times the price of the average mexican labor wage per hour i think that's a major victory for the us and canada so again ultimately i think what we're looking at is a win for both u.s. workers american workers i think the american the mexican economy as well this is where we really see president trump's leadership in. action two completely distinct different leaders in mexico and canada and yet president trump was able to bring them together with his negotiators who were empowered to get this deal done conan you talked about president trump and his bluster and the fact that the canadian leadership despite the fact that they they appeared not to be getting on very well president trump and justin trudeau but the canadian leadership is sort of become used to this this this bluster and bravado don't trump likes to. to talk himself up as being that the deal maker one could imagine that he was he's
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a pretty tough negotiator all that his team would be under his direction. did canada have to make any big concessions here or was this deal is perhaps easier to reach than than than they thought it would be. no it was this is been tough and. indeed. even last week our ambassador united states gave it a kind of five out of ten and he's our kind of quarterback in the field along with our foreign minister so you know this was this was hard fought so our we going at it in a tense fashion now for a little over a year remember we had been through this with the united states negotiators many of them the same people at the working level in the transit partnership and as i point out the agreement itself most closely resembles the trans-pacific partnership with adjustments relating to the interests of canada mexico and the united states.
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i think that it was for mccain in perspective kind of the optimum time because there had been there was pressure within the united states from the business community the farm community to put to include canada in this and with the clock ticking under the legislative mandate of congress to the administration they had to submit something today to congress and the preference was to do it canada us mexico because and let's be clear on this we're strong and i think chris would agree that the big challenge now is going to be the implementation legislation in the congress and that's going to happen sometime next year because in the meantime will be an assessment economic assessment of this agreement by the international trade commission and then the new congress this be post the midterms will be the congress responsible for implementing the new agreement and that's not a slam dunk chris is it that a done deal ok so so we've we've come to an agreement but it still has to be ratified by congress could anything upset this bill's passage i'm thinking about
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the midterms in the. sure of course well the united states of course has the major midterms in november twenty eighth seen we're looking at likely to have a at least the odds are showing that there may be a flip in the house democrats may retake the house that's the historical precedent at least every president lose the house in the midterm elections i think it's only been two presidents who've lost who've kept the house in the midterm elections since i think two thousand the year two thousand and so i think frankly looking at this that the senate as well senate looks increasingly as though the republicans will keep will keep the senate but you have many congressmen in both the house and senate senators in the senate that have districts that rely and would benefit tremendously by the influx of jobs by the increase in wages for many of these manufacturing jobs that would require as i mentioned earlier the sixteen dollars per hour labor on many of the components in a significant percentage of the auto parts that are made so it would be in their
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favor whether you're republican whether you're democrat to vote in favor of this and so i think that you know it looks very likely looks increasingly so that with trade promotion authority the president trump has that they would that the congress doesn't fact vote favorably in in for this deal calling to close one of the things that helped to sour relations between canada and the united states was earlier this year president trump slapped a bunch of tariffs on canadian steel and aluminum imports does this trade deal this this new north america free trade agreement under under a different name does that deal with that issue or those tariffs stay in place. you know the way i read the agreement remember it's a thousand pages and i'm still digesting it and there are some side letters my understanding is those terrorists remain on place both canada and mexico although there is pressure in the united states from steel users because canada's the biggest supplier of foreign buyers steel and particularly of aluminum which is used
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particularly in the in the defense industry so our prime minister has said american airplanes and tanks use are minimal and so what they're the americans are still buying if they're of course pay now the tariffs are at the at the border similar situation with our softwood lumber we're selling as much softwood lumber as before but the american the average american is now being a twenty five percent surcharge and that of course raises the the cost of causing united states so that one isn't done let's be clear adrian we're not out of the trumpet ministration is protectionist and we're likely to see more protectionism by this administration agreement gives us a belt and suspenders but we're not. we're not free and by the really continue to get out of my station is not protectionist at all gone chrystia most resources are great for inspiration here let's not protectionists well what we are we are a free trade administration and frankly this is why and this is something you would i think you would agree with paul and we have had a
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a significant breakthrough with the nafta deal back in two thousand back and back and twenty five years ago when when you negotiate it it was a great deal for many people however what that did as it moved many jobs overseas it made it reorient the supply chain away from north america to southeast asia united states is simply saying let's bring this back to let's bring the manufacturing back to united states the tariffs frankly are not and then another themselves there are there a way to get the parties that have taken advantage of the united states and frankly those are taking advantage of canada as well back to the table to renegotiate a more fair deal this is not what the president wants is a free trade or has trade across our free trade. as you say the trump of ministration is a free trade administration why then. his own party republican speaker of the house paul ryan so opposed to the tariffs that he's imposed on i mean store generalized canada the e.u. well i'll tell you why it's because you know the many establishment republicans are
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are giving a selling out so they're selling out to industry they're selling out the industry the same industry the same corporations that have built their empires on the backs of american labor that have been treated so unfairly american workers have been treated so unfairly and so a lot of individuals a lot of establishment republicans and many democrats are simply corporate elitists that have sold out to many of their donors in corporate. you know corporate interests what president trump has done is say i'm looking at this through the eyes of the average american worker what does it do to my community when mike entire heartland the entire heartland of the united states has been hollowed out by these trade deals that have ship jobs overseas let's get jobs back to the united states and frankly the record that he's produced so far i think isn't indicative of that we've got four million jobs that are back in united states four hundred thousand manufacturing jobs that the previous president obama said we're never going to come back to the united states so i think that we have to understand the underlying issues here and give the president the benefit of doubt when we look at just the
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facts tell him what you make of it. well i would just say that it's at the end of the day a good day for canada the united states and mexico mr trump has his wins as chris points out on manufacturing can say to auto workers he can say to farmers that he's delivered for them and for mccain perspective having secure access to what is our largest trading partner and worth pointing out i think is chris would recognize that america's largest trading partner is canada and also worth pointing out that in fact united states has a surplus with canada. in everything except energy which of course is used to fuel the manufacturing industry in the united states so i think. all three countries can be satisfied that north america as a platform are not going to call it north american market the canada us mexico relationship is it is it is competitively placed to build a continued compete with the rest of the world and if that brings jobs into canada
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united states mexico that's a good thing colin do tariffs another put them in inverted commas protectionist policies as a chris will disagree but the tariffs and perfect protectionist policies actually work or do they lead ultimately to unforeseen adverse effects for for consumers and for for workers well i think the economists would suggest the latter that is they lead to adverse effects of actually a tariff as a tax on a consumer and so as i point out in the case of steel aluminum tariffs and in the case of the tariff sounds awful lumber the american the average american house now cost an extra five thousand dollars it's going to cost more to make the cars and planes out of the steel moment well you know you pass that through and you have probably less money for other other things but these are decisions governments take what we've been moving towards was to track to reduce those tariffs and i think chris would probably agree that the biggest change is not the mexico canada it was
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more china coming into the world trade organization. and i think there's no doubt that china did take advantage of a situation and that's a separate issue that the president is trying to address cohen criswell the cohen says it's that's a separate issue but does this deal the fact that all three of canada mexico and the u.s. a praising it to how does this impact upon president trump's threat to withdraw the u.s. from the w t well this this definitely plays to president trump's overall strategy and again just to repeat tariffs are not something the president is looking to implement long term nor are his trade advisors nor have his trade advisors informed him that imposing tariffs in the long run are going to be a smart idea there simply a way to bring back the the bad actors to the table if you will or or to have some of our allies even in the case of the the nafta renegotiation have them come back to the table to reciprocate some of the the or develop more of
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a reciprocal and free open trade agreement how this plays into present terms overall strategy with china is that we now have a really strong position of course economically speaking the united states is doing extremely well our markets are up the chinese market is down but this this new deal this new u.s.m.c. a deal allows us to be in unison with our allies north of the border and south of the border as we then turn our gaze toward china and tackle some of the more serious issues like ip theft like forced technology transfer like like outright you know tariffs and barriers to entry and even the europeans the europeans have said ok you get this done we'll make some noise about china in the w c o so i think ultimately this is a this is a tactic this is simply the use of tariffs if you will in this hard bargain that the president has driven is a tactic to bring parties back to the table and guess what in the past you had diplomatic solutions that were never thought to be the answer will in the last two decades we've been getting ripped off in many occasions nothing's happened and the
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diplomatic solution has not worked but guess what today now we have a more fair deal for the united states. we have we are better off american workers are better off and we're not worse off color i'm going to ask you to put your diplomats has on for a moment you'll notice that we don't have a spokesperson of anyone commenting from from mexico everyone we reached out to today declined our invitation to to appear so i'm going to ask you the mexican side of this deal was negotiated by the outgoing administration president and rico pena nieto to what extent does it tie the hands do you think of the of the incoming leftist administration oh i very much ties their hands and in fact. pres incoming president because obrador had a very senior members likely to be in his cabinet a suits a present at the negotiations particularly in later august remember them the outgoing administration of pena nieto with their trade minister that hans ago harder negotiated it it actually began around the issue that president hyde you know the
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rules of origin relating to autos and their wage component was a piece of that they negotiated through august and then suddenly they got to sort of break through and they they negotiated an agreement but the incoming administration is part of that remember the incoming administration has already taken office in congress but they've got this kind of convoluted transition period in mexico the new president doesn't take office until december i want to eat my my words now because lo and behold we have got someone from from mexico joining us on the program in mexico city as fernando give us was a professor of international trade at the monterey institute of technology higher education in mexico city it's good to have you with us and welcome to with the inside story better late than never as they say mexico's side of this deal was agreed long before the standoff with canada was settled is it a good deal for mexico. well first of all yes i mean this is good news because as you said it is better for the three countries having
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a nafta you also a two point zero or than nothing so it. in general is good news of course we have to review the text of the agreement in detail to know to what extend we have improved our. benefits and privileges as parties to the nafta before but in general this is good news so in fact here in mexico we have welcomed the news that canada has joined the boat. this is certainly better having a trilateral agreement instead of bilateral agreement and now it seems that the markets are reacting positively as well. so yes this is this is good for mexico ok and the question i put in just a few minutes ago to what extent does this tie the hands of the incoming administration well i mean i would say that it is also good news for the new administration because having. to start
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a new government with the uncertainty of no knowing whether there will be enough and in what terms. it's certainly something that would have cost the problem to the new administrations so it is good for them knowing that that problem is behind. now. as it was mentioned previously by by the previous. speaking your in your in your show yes a very senior official participated directly in the. negotiation room during this process i mean a senior official of the incoming government so that means. that they have been closely following these these negotiations so it's not that they will be. giving a tag they are entirely unfamiliar with to the contrary they they probably
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know very well what makes you go has committed to with these not. to point to chris last week the us agreed to begin by natural talks with japan and it did the same with the e.u. back in july and yet the trade war continues with with china is there a dispute hurting the u.s. in any way where is that going to end well it will only hurt the united states if china continues to refuse and we and we reach a stalemate frankly i think that that's not going to happen and has much more to lose than united states as we had mentioned earlier we are in a position of strength relatively speaking our economy is thriving it's booming the jobs are being created business of being started profits are seeing all time highs markets are seeing all time highs in the united states it's not the same case in china frankly what we're seeing is china sensually getting caught red handed with
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forced ip transfers outright ip theft i mean china's entire r. and d. department is just ip theft they don't really invent a new thing there and you see president trump calling them on that bluff ok now the beauty of this strategy is that the e.u. and our allies north and south of the border especially now after this new nafta two point zero deal has been struck is that we see them joining us now in in an attack i guess approaching china and trying to get them to actually change some of these practices so i think frankly the united states does not have much to lose but we will ultimately find a solution up an amicable solution which do you agree with that china has more to lose than the u.s. to us. i think both countries have a target to lose but i think that as chris points out the china was taking unfair advantage talking about ip theft and the rest and of course over production particularly of steel was part of what got us into the steel tariffs and things i
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think that the chinese are sort of recognizing you know i think that we look to leadership usually from the united states it's to it's rather strange leadership but if the european canada mexico and others can come together there's already negotiations in the o.e.c.d. and other places to sort of say arre china you come into the club of the w t o but now we expect you to truly live up to the spirit of the of the agreement but of course the identity here gets complicated mr trump is taking a different view on it as well but i think that this after all was a us creation these international institutions and i think these international institutions are still the best way to manage new members into the club to play china gentleman there i'm afraid we're going to have to leave it thank you very much indeed for being with us today chrystia see a clear robertson and fernando consulates russia's very briefly that was the end and thank you as always for watching you can see the program again at any time just
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hello the united states and canada have clinched a last minute trade deal to replace nafta along with mexico it keeps them in a three way economic pact first reached twenty four years ago the new united states mexico canada agreement as it's being called was sealed that late night talks in ottawa before a u.s. imposed deadline it gives the u.s. better access to canada's dairy market and allows extra imports of canadian cars u.s. president trump came to office promising to scrap the original deal i have long contended that nafta was perhaps the worst trade deal ever made since nafta is adoption the united states racked up trade deficits totaling more than two trillion dollars and it's a much higher number than that with canada and mexico it lost vast amounts of money and lost four point one million manufacturing jobs and one in four auto jobs lost
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about twenty five percent of our order jobs even more than. throughout the campaign i promised to renegotiate nafta and today we have kept that promise. jordan has more on this now from washington. donald trump is taking what many people are calling a victory lap on this monday he has achieved an agreement with canada and with mexico on a deal to replace nafta the north american free trade agreement trump a campaign against the deal since he first announced he was running for president in two thousand and fifteen as one that was bad for u.s. workers particularly those who worked in manufacturing and those who worked in the agricultural sector the new agreement if it's ratified by all three countries governments would actually make it easier for the u.s. to not only sell its goods to these other two countries but it would also remove
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some tariffs on canadian and mexican made products up to a certain point what canada gets out of the deal is the return of an independent arbitrator in case there are disputes between the three countries and it's not going to open its dairy sector to whole scale u.s. dairy imports but the u.s. will get a toehold and that was considered important one thing that is also important is that the u.s. and canada said that people who work in the automotive sector should be getting paid at least sixteen dollars an hour that could cut both ways for mexico because right now mexican auto workers are paid considerably less than their counterparts in the u.s. and canada if companies decide that it's worth keeping these workers on the job they will have to raise their salaries otherwise can auto workers could find themselves looking for new jobs if the companies decide that it's not worth the
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cost for doing production in that country but that said all three countries now agree that they have a deal they agree that it's time for an update the next update should be ratified will come in about six years time and there's a sixteen year subset per vote provision in which if they don't make any changes the trade deal would go away and then they'd have to start all over again. well let's go now to dan you lack who is live for us in toronto so daniel prime minister justin trudeau is saying that this is a good deal for canadians but one can't help thinking that the looming deadline that the u.s. and imposed on getting a deal done had something to do with him signing on. it certainly helped concentrate minds among the canadian negotiating team and justin trudeau was pretty much the defacto ended you're a leader
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a bad team you didn't join in the day to day talks but he was sitting around all weekend taking calls from the team and he showed up late on sunday night just before the deal was announced so basically yes that deadline of midnight sunday monday that was really what swung it kind of the basically needed to get this deal done before the u.s. midterm so that president donald trump might be more willing to give them a few of the things they wanted every big deal trade deal or even labor management deal is given take all sides compromise and that certainly what's happened here even though they're saying it's win win win and present and prime minister trudeau was also saying earlier just how extraordinarily difficult this all was to get through this is an extraordinarily complex agreement just as the original nafta was but let me sum up what it means it means that when this agreement is enact it now after will be preserved updated modernised and stabilized for the
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twenty first century as we set out to do it means canadian workers and their families will enjoy a greater opportunities than ever before and more prosperity means more reservists is to invest in things like housing health care and a more secure retirement for seniors. and he's not really exaggerating that's not mere rhetoric canadian prosperity depends on access to the united states market and to a lesser extent so the mexican market that this deal is worth well over a trillion dollars in canada gets about six hundred billion of that at current levels so it's really important even as the canadians diversify their trade agenda around the world this is the core of what the country's economy really is so it's really a deal that had to be made whatever the quibbling and squabbling that may be done
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in the coming days over those who won and those who lost. daniel that live for us in toronto thanks daniel or dan kuria is a senior fellow in the global economy program at the center for international governance innovation he joins us now via skype from ought to want to talk more about this thanks very much for being with us so what's the prospective from canada . by people like yourself did did did canada give too much to to make this deal that they give up too much. it's got it but it will be a very interesting deal to actually quantify it enters a what's a bottom line right now we don't actually quantifying modern trade agreements it particularly well everyone's talking about things like harry maybe the de minimus clause because porter shopping and the auto sector in the auto sector for example the tightening of the rules of origin necessarily means more trade diversion you
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know the quantitative trade model that leads to negative negative welfare it's not an improvement in who have the same thing with that too much increase in the protection for intellectual property for example the patent terms for biology drugs and the extension of copyright term from fifty to seventy five years for profits in seventy years we've. had to have for natural persons this is not a good thing economically when the us extended its. copyright term there was an amicus brief filed by sixteen prominent at the economist six of them nobel laureates who explain exactly why that was of that young so it was quantifying the deal on these traditional grounds i was that no it's actually a cost raising in welfare reducing deal with some what was the liberalisation but the more significant element for me is that we are just at the dawn of this data driven economy the end data is place many roles one of them is that it is the
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medium for transactions across borders in that sense it has to be freed of little cross borders because that's part of our gas commitments to the treatment services but it also plays a role as the in the structure of your digitized economy in that sense it has to be fully cyber secured. and data is the new oil out this will mean something for our people in the middle east because if you were to sign an agreement that they promised of the three investment from a foreign companies to extract oil. you know all this new oil with now pete any royalties whatsoever you say. that's not such a good deal for us. in and that's more or less what the the the new u.s. embassy does for data so i think it's my own personal view is that we are just the beginning of this era it's too early to a no evil what a robust regulatory framework is for a few days or so just to suit the tricks such interrupted did do you think further
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deals need to be done then to address that did this this digital era that we're in right now that. we will definitely have to come up with a robust regulatory framework and one which actually shares the benefits of this digital era more fairly i'll give you an example. china behind the great firewall built on major companies like ten cent baidu alibaba these companies would not exist and the trillion dollar companies now any combined they would not exist if if there was free flow of data would not even work was asian just because of the nature of this is. did intervene economy so you can see that there's a niche of value proposition countries like canada and others will be trying to develop with a foothold in the space and we need to be very careful about what we sign on to. what one of the things that was missing from this theo was the whole issue of.
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terrace aluminum a steel tariffs that the u.s. had imposed. on cattle but that was made clear that the this was going to be a separate issue but that is still a real sticking point for canada is isn't it like how isn't important is it for canada to to address that and get those tariffs removed eventually. so you could characterize this trade deal as is being candid trying to vie trade peace by making concessions to the united states in areas where it has interests such as in data such as india arie and intellectual property in those are valuable concessions did we actually get straight piece what we did not get the remove all of the state of the loom steel tariffs i had to my knowledge the the full threat of that twenty five percent tear on our roads has not gone away so it's immediate case that we peak up front in the hope of entry fees but.

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