parent assassination attempt he has overseen so he's under tremendous pressure not just globally but i expect within the house of saud right now there must be deep divisions and debates over whether he can be the future leader of saudi arabia given given given the role that he has played in generating this crisis that has put saudi arabia under a spotlight that we haven't seen since nine eleven we have to remember that the u.s. government is not simply donald trump and jared cushion are the congress has a lot of say in terms of u.s. foreign policy in terms of arms expenditures there is an important role that you know civil society plays in shaping american foreign policy and i think that's what's what's really driving the global outrage toward this event so donald trump is under a lot of pressure himself and i don't think he's going to be able to bail. the crown prince of saudi arabia out of this one i think this is simply viewed by many people around the world as a bridge too far saudi arabia is now viewed as a rogue nation that is generating global instability and so i don't think you know

trump despite his preference to try and save the crown prince will be able to rescue him let's move on to other news out of turkey the american pasta at the center of a diplomatic dispute between the u.s. and turkey is now free to leave the country to to his and detention and or brunson return to his home in the turkish city of as after turkish court sentenced him to three years in jail on terror charges but said he'd already spent enough time in custody on some has lived in turkey for many years he was detained in the wake of turkey's failed coup and twenty sixteen. briefly to the media outside the court complex vision of the human you know the model of the of course as a respected religious man he can stay if you wants but at the moment i feel he is going to leave turkey when he is released. has more from as man. passably else's release was welcomed by both united states and turkey but it was

a surprise for some after the trial after the. decision was announced his lawyer came out and he told us that he was expecting his release but not at the end of today's trial of course now he's on the way back home his lawyer told us that's because he was facing some safety risks and security risk risks he was planning to go back to united states but of course the timing of this this is is very important very critical especially for turkey who has been having some diplomatic tension with saudi arabia over the a mysterious disappearance of journalist jim out. in istanbul general counsel eight building now turkey believes that washington will be able to support turkey after bronson's frillies and turkey will have the leverage to put some international pressure over saudi arabia regarding. his case of course it's not the only thing there are some economic issues that the

turkey needed support from washington plus the military corporation and members in northern syria that's going to she have a chance you know he is joining us for more on this from washington d.c. has there been any reaction so far where you are she how big ministration will certainly be happy about this. absolutely several tweets from donald trump and the . bronson just released will be home soon and in all capital letters actually the pentagon has said that bronson will travel on a military plane by germany to the united states one would expect the administration will want to make the most of this with with some sort of arrival perhaps on saturday morning one would think u.s. time because this is such a big issue amongst evangelical voters in the united states the trumpet ministration the republican party a relying on evangelical voters to go to the polls in the november midterm elections and support the republican candidates at a time when the republicans are very worried that very few others will and in some

cases the evangelicals need to be fired up they have to go to the polls on this is going to help beyond that but it's kind of unclear as to where this then will leave relations between the u.s. whether this is part of some geo strategic aligned realignment or whether this is simply about one man whom the u.s. administration really really wanted to return we'd have actually heard that this deal had been struck at the end of september well before by the way incidentally the disappearance of you might compare the secretary of state national security advisor john bolton on the sidelines of the un general assembly talking to turkish officials the parameters we understood well first of all the u.s. had to dial down the rhetoric on brunson so if and when some was released on friday it didn't seem like he was simply doing the bidding of the united states and then n.b.c. has reported that the u.s. has agreed to ease some of the financial pressure on turkey the u.s.

doubled the steel and aluminum tire of saud turkey because of brunson sanction to ministers in the turkish government because of brunson but we don't really know whether how much further the u.s. will go and try to help turkey's currency crisis so we are still trying to understand is this simply about one man or is this simply a realignment or is this a part of a big. because as we just heard there are so many other outstanding issues or the other turkish americans held by the turkish authorities on similar charges members of the u.s. consulate held on similar charges the purchase of a russian missile defense system by turkey which is holding up the delivery of f. thirty five warplanes from from the united states the sanctioning and potential fees potential fines on a turkish bank because the u.s. accuses them of helping to evade iranian sanctions there are all these other things syria the kurds so it's not quite clear yet whether this is part of some big strategic chess game or this is simply about one man thank you very much for that.

washington d.c. thank you still ahead. a hint of change of season maybe there have been a few share is every country from saudi arabia up towards turkey and across to iran as well so the levant in effect has seen a few showers with reports on the disappointing side just a few millimeters here or there but it's a hint of a change temperatures down to the low twenty's to jerusalem the high twenty's up in syria and turkey very frankly and that's where we see more showers build will get the same further east woods probably far north of iraq and then running down

through the mountains and western side of iran a good selection of thunderstorms in the next two or three maybe four or five days i suspect but if you're not there that is probably dry throughout the arabian peninsula until you get down towards the south pretty obvious he was going on this tropical cyclone lee bonny's very slow moving it's brought rain to the amati coast is still reading as far as i know and in the next twenty four hours the thing moves a couple hundred kilometers so significant heavy rain is going to be the problem in oman and probably yemen and eventually even the n.t. quarter and beyond flooding inevitable in southern africa is also developing cloud this thing here as sort of frontal system and as it moves through the eastern cape i think we'll see rain develop useful and probably flooding right. journeys of personal discovery more american here and then more in the us

is there is correspondence tell these stories that in their lives. i feel sad that they have to endure the difficult times. my family status and wealth has benefited from their choice to enslave. al-jazeera correspondent coming soon. it's good to have you with us on al-jazeera these are our top stories saudi arabia is facing growing isolation and pressure over the disappearance of sol the journalist. turkish media says a saudi delegation has arrived. to the case she was last seen entering the.

istanbul on the second of october there are reports he was killed inside the american past at the center of a diplomatic dispute between the u.s. and turkey is now free to leave the country after two years in detention the turkish court sentenced him to three years in jail on a charge but said he had already spent enough time in custody. now russia says it will defend russians in ukraine and case of violence off to a split in the orthodox church on thursday ukraine secure what approval to establish an independent church the decision was made by the ecumenical patriarch of bowl the spiritual leader of three hundred million orthodox christians worldwide the move has caused one of the biggest schisms in christianity and more than five hundred is the break is linked to russia's annexation of crimea from ukraine and twenty fourteen were in chalons has more from moscow. although the kremlin and the

russian orthodox church are organizations with deep links officially the kremlin is keeping some distance from this issue it says that it's monitoring the process closely but can't interfere in dialogue between churches in reality though this is all about politics and russia is concerned about the fraying spiritual borns that have previously tied ukrainians to the russian orthodox church and thus to moscow the kremlin is using language similar to that it used after the annexation of crimea perhaps as a warning to ukraine it's saying that just as russia will defend the interests of russians and russian speakers everywhere so too it will defend the interests of orthodox christians now the moscow patriarchate has called constantinople decision a gross violation of the norms of the church system that it cannot recognize as legitimate but will have to wait for monday to find out what steps it will take

that's when there will be an announcement at a holy synod meeting in minsk israeli forces have killed at least six palestinian protesters near the gaza israel border fence demonstrators were taking part in weekly friday protests demanding the right to return to their ancestral land nearly two hundred protesters have been killed and thousands injured by israeli forces since the protests began and march at an israeli court on friday upheld the barring of an american student from entering the country twenty two year old lara a passenger tried to enter israel last week but was rejected over alleged involvement with an anti israel boycott campaign she filed an appeal with hell of a district court but that too was rejected she is being held in an airport detention center. amnesty international is warning against an offensive against the last rebel held province and syria the human rights organization says there will be

widespread civilian casualties if the syrian government goes ahead with it and the cities edging syria's ally russia to stop the adlib offensive seventy two hours is the deadline that has been given before the offensive begins that's by that time in theory the buffer zone should be ready and people can move into safety this complete illusion first of all we have not seen people moving into the buffer zone in any significant numbers so far and second of all this buffer zone is by far not adequate to protect all of the civilians thousands of them who are currently in government the worst part is that we know exactly what's going to happen once the offensive begin we don't need to speculate we saw it in aleppo we saw it in other opposition controlled areas we know that there will be massive civilian casualties that there will be destruction that there will be disappearances arrests and mass

displacement russia's ambassador to the u.k. alexander banco says relations with britain are at an all time low during a press conference he told reporters that the u.k. was carrying out a campaign to discredit russia and accusations that russia was involved in the poisoning of double agent. things that were said in an official level we don't accept because there are no evidence so basically when we're talking about the repudiation we're talking convention and we're talking about some other things why britain is using us this is their reputation their country not us because you know we are rejecting. us. spain is marking its national day with a royal military parade in madrid but in boston thousands of pro and anti independence demonstrations march. riot police alongside them leaders who are

demanding independence stayed away from official ceremony from the city the region's parliament passed a motion on thursday calling for the abolition of the monarchy and whole has more from barcelona. there should have to pay for not to try to save their own time that's well simply going to make my mark here by christopher columbus a man telling the price of the sponsorship by her ladyship particularly let's make sure that. hundreds of police are on duty because that demonstration is on a collision course with opposing crowds now these are made up of mostly pro independence activists and self described anti fascist now the political crisis by the catalan independence issues being gripping spain the move in a year now the spanish government has so far showed little willingness to negotiate

right itself through the region and meanwhile independent groups inside the top alone are arguing amongst themselves about the speed and the exact steps they need to take to move toward i mean dependent republic what that means is that increasingly the politicians are aware that there are unable to control cross roots movements like these because they're growing. increasingly impatient thousands of spanish nationalists have taken to the streets at barcelona to mark spain's national day some even know that they had to have traveled in from other parts of the country more than just an opportunity to celebrate being spanish many demonstrators using this symbolic date as an opportunity to step up their opposition to the catalonia region's attempts to break away from the rest of spain and set up an independent republic. at least eleven people have died in one of the strongest hurricanes to ever hit the united states many coastal towns and florida

is still cut off a day after michael made landfall as a category four storm well nine hundred thousand homes are without power the state's governor says the storm has left a trail of unimaginable destruction. the search for bodies after indonesia's earthquake and tsunami has now ended at least two thousand people are confirmed dead but another five thousand missing scott hard live reports from bali. it was one extra day search teams were given another twenty four hours to continue looking for bodies after the earthquake and tsunami on the island two weeks ago before the search officially ended on friday thousands of people are still missing buried in mounds of mud in rubble or swept out to sea. u.n. secretary general interior has visited some of the communities flattened by the earthquake or stripped bare by the massive wave that followed it it's important that the leadership must be the leadership it's indonesian government that can lead

these efforts the international community should be here to support not to complicate see sometimes too many people try to get involved in sings and then of course the support of the populations is not as effective as it should be the u.n. had said he thought the indonesian government has been doing a good job extending his solidarity and support. early in the search and rescue operations the government was criticized for slow aid distribution and the lack of heavy equipment here and all the global financial chiefs have been meeting now the twin disasters in sulawesi have been brought up in the context of the need for disaster preparedness but also as an example of just how critical swift transition from search and rescue operations to rebuilding is for the communities involved. during those meetings the world bank with germany and the u.k. set up a one hundred forty five million dollar fund for vulnerable countries managing the financial fallout from natural disasters and climate change the world bank's chief executive also visited the city apollo and soon away sea island we came up today

with our rapid that make sure that assessment he says that the physical damage you see your father of five hundred thirty million dollars this is self housing keep the structure of the residential buildings it does not include loss of life because as the community has moved from a rescue operation to rebuilding the key many feel is to restart the local economies so people can get back to work putting their villages and their lives back together it's got how to al-jazeera bali. i mean isn't the headlines on al-jazeera saudi arabia is facing growing isolation and pressure over the disappearance of sal the journalist jamal khashoggi saw the delegation has arrived and ancora as part of a joint investigation was last seen entering the cell the consulate in istanbul on

top of the second and there are reports he was killed inside canada's prime minister has added his voice to the international outcry over kushal g.'s disappearance this particular case is of course of concern and we join with our allies around the world in expressing serious issues with these reports obviously there is a lot more to to to uncover in what happened here so i'm not going to comment too much on this the american pastor at the center of a diplomatic dispute between the u.s. and turkey is now free to leave the country after two years in detention andrew bronson returned to his home in the turkish city of is near after a turkish court sentenced him to three years in jail on a tear challenge bob said he had already spent enough time in custody bonds and has lived in turkey for many years. russia says it will defend russians in ukraine in case of violence after a split in the orthodox church on thursday ukraine secured approach approval to

establish an independent church the decision was made by the eco menocal patriarch in istanbul the spiritual leader of three hundred million orthodox believe as well why the move has caused one of the biggest schisms in christianity for more than five hundred years the break is linked to russia's annexation of crimea from ukraine and twenty fourteen israeli forces have killed at least six palestinian protesters near the gaza israel border fence demonstrators were taking part in weekly fidei protests demanding the right to return to their ancestral land nearly two hundred protesters have been killed and thousands injured by israeli forces since the protests began in march and an israeli court has upheld the barring of an american student from entering the country twenty two or large qassam tried to enter israel last week but was rejected over her alleged involvement with an anti israel boycott campaign she fathered appeared with tel aviv district court but that was also rejected she's being held in an airport detention center well those are

the headlines on al-jazeera do stay with us inside story is coming up next thank you very much for watching. the u.s. and turkey reportedly have proof saudi jim is jamal khashoggi. his body in the saudi consulate in istanbul diplomatic pressure is now increasing and businesses are getting pulling out of deals with saudi arabia so what does it mean for the old rich country this is a. welcome

to the program. it's been ten days since journalist went missing in turkey u.s. and turkish officials have now been quoted saying they have proof the saudi critic was killed inside his country's consulate in istanbul outrage over the case has been widespread and it's threatening to destroy saudi arabia's image make i. hate to discuss that but first a report by stephanie deca from istanbul. they are explosive allegations the washington post quotes turkish and u.s. officials confirming that turkey has or geo and video recordings that prove she was killed inside the saudi consulate you can hear his voice and the voices of men speaking arabic an anonymous source tells the paper you can hear how he was interrogated tortured and then murdered another source says men could be heard

beating. this is a crime the reason it is a crime that it is joining forces appearance is not going to help and that killing . so many of them and one of his appearance and if you if it's true he was assassinated inside him to see and they would also be responsible for extradition. so the responsibility is clearly in the mossad to believe it is connected to his fate and his were awesome this time saudi arabia has remained silent since its initial statement left the consulate shortly after he arrived and that the accusations of murder are basis but revelations that turkey has and video evidence of what is alleged to have happened is ramping up pressure on the kingdom if true it would explain why turkey was so quick to conclude that he was killed inside that consulate but it also raises questions as to how turkey had access to what exactly

went on inside the diplomatic mission congress been using turkish and foreign media to get its message out feeding through a steady stream of leaks of what appears to have been an unprecedented sequence of events of a well known and well connected saudi journalist who returned to the consulate to finalize paperwork in order to get married never to reemerge and i was horrified because he assured me. when we were in london that there was nothing to be concerned about. he said on friday he had been to the consulate. they received them very well although they were initially surprised to see him. and promise them if he came back again a few days later they would issue him with the papers he was after. so he felt. it was ok but apparently there is a trap for him on thursday night turkeys presidential spokesman said they had

agreed to set up a joint working group at the request of the saudis to investigate the disappearance of mr. saudi delegation has arrived in turkey on friday for that purpose turkey's been waiting to search the consulate and also the home of the saudi consul general they need the saudis permission to do so but it seems if the latest reports are true that the turks already know exactly what happened to. stephanie decker al-jazeera istanbul. let's bring in our panel in washington d.c. sigurd noise about a nonresident fellow gulf international forum in london a professor in development studies and international relations at the school of oriental and african studies part of the university of london and here in the mohammed a professor of conflict resolution at george mason university welcome to you all let's start with you mohammed it seems almost on

a daily basis either the turkish or the american authorities are releasing new information the latest being that they're all video recording say the turks of the alleged murder and the americans say there is audio at least of the quote being discussed now what's behind the strategy all they seem to be doing is when they have responded is issuing blanket denials what's behind the strategy while there is this. the intelligence. ministry of interior did not give us an indication we're. where the investigation has gone so far in the meantime the turkish media is doing this role is assuming this responsibility and to say at the same time i think there are two parter levels here one is security intelligence investigation that has to be suppressed by politics and it is the other party which is basically the hotline's between of a year and in order to find an exit or

a kind of discourse but i know they're not doing now are they that's the problem the saudis don't seem to be responding to war and korea is trying to get them to do which is find a way out of this one it seems to me that the complexity of the case is more is why than what we expect i think we should all understand the ramifications either in economy the diplomatic and strategic dimensions and i think now. it is part of this triangle that. washington where we lose facts we are basically fazed by this open ended scrutiny and i don't think that we have seen it yet in other words i think there is a process of negotiations and i think the saudi wealth is significant in the eyes of the gun a little in the eyes of trump and then i think the financial suppresses facts well

let's take a look at that with one of our other guests from washington d.c. now it's good know about. is saudi arabia too big to fail. let me begin by saying that jamal her show is a close friend and colleague and. he was very close to or is hopefully there close to many in washington's policy community and every time that we had an inquiry or an hour or a question about what is happening in the gulf region and in saudi arabia particular we would always consult with him and he would very gracefully share his insights and his ideas with us so this story has really hit us very hard here in washington he knew a lot of people here and a lot of people are now stepping forward to speak on his behalf and and this is such an emotional story that of course intersects with geopolitics and regional all dynamics but as to your question i think that because this investigation is

ongoing a lot of the drip drip sleeps that we are seeing so far do not look favorable to to disallow the side that is for sure but i think that we still have to see how the turkish response is because president are gone sits on all the evidence and we don't quite know as of yet what his objective is this is objective to balance on one hand to bring out the truth of what happened or what may have happened to. or is a. priority to balance between washington and turkey on one hand and we have seen that reports are coming out that pastor bruson will be returning to united states he was a political prisoner for all practical purposes and in turkey and that seems to be coinciding with this joint saudi turkish investigation so there are

a lot of pieces that are on folding as of now a lot of moving parts let's bring in go hey what do you think of the saudi strategy so far issuing blanket denials saying that the cameras weren't was. king are they managing to sell their side of the story successfully. it's obvious that they are in the extremely difficult situation. that has been a gigantic miscalculation i'm sure they know i mean they they didn't have or whoever ordered this did not have any expectation that it would take such proportions and. i think it was earlier in the washington don't post quoting very aptly this famous saying from the front from french history it's worse than a crime it's an error and that means that the very cynically put states commit a lot of crimes but when they do them in under conditions leading to

such a major crisis this is you know a terrible terrible. blunder so i can't see any real way out of that because unless of course i mean the miracle happened and her she would remarriage alive which seems to be completely excluded. from. that someday i'll never go back or about whether there is a way out sorry to disturb you there but it's a very important point i want to follow up on. what is the this the saudis to do did they realize if this indeed is proved to be true did they realize quite who jamal khashoggi was i think the me two mistakes one they underestimated the personalities and the b. are around her to them it was another saudi citizen who can be eliminated

easily. second mistake was. different to get that this is a new age of politics and i think the divil open their own to be scandal in other words total denial and then drip drip and this may last for a year a year or two before the acknowledge what they did like what the we did back in the ninety's so we're not going to have some moral politics come in or at least they're not going to assume responsibility at the same time i think now it's more of a good normal crisis it's not just about who should be i think what it reveals it is about how the power of mohammed bin some man the crown prince has picked and i think we will consider the case and the call controversial decision six weeks ago i think to me now his power is in decline and i think he will disappear from the screen for what i'm not sure that the it is strong or good enough pressure to cite

him or to an unknown marginalize him but he is not going to have the same clout he used to have back in two thousand and seventeen and early two thousand and eighteen let's bring back in gilbert ask are you heard the assessment that perhaps the only way out of this for saudi arabia is some sort of removal in some way of the crown prince is that something do you think the saudis would ever consider. yeah well that's actually what i was going to say before you interrupt me it is precisely i mean this comes at a time when you heard rumors about a possible dismissal of the crown prince rumors about the fact that his father was rather unhappy with the results of what he's done and actually if you make a balance sheet of everything is done it's a terribly negative terribly i mean it's a balance sheet or

a failure so i mean one could expect under such conditions and knowing that the rest of the family in the saudi royal family is quite unhappy with the stern of the whole turn of events we wouldn't be surprised if anything happened like this if nothing happened of this guy and that means that the crown prince is completely in control of wealth of of the of of the station in the kingdom well let's take a look now at the latest of what's going on what the crown prince is actually up to the cases prompted some big names to distance themselves from saudi arabia richard branson the founder of the virgin group has suspended two directorships on saudi tourism projects and talks over a space venture former u.s. energy secretary ernest monies is backing away from the crown prince's mega city dream project. and the new york times has pulled out as a media sponsor of an investment summit during riyadh in two weeks the los angeles

times and the huffington post also giving the event a miss the world bank chief and key business leaders from viacom a.o.l. h.p. incorporated are also staying away from the conference. the saudi crown prince's vision twenty thirty project seeks to radically change the image of the kingdom but he's been criticized over human rights issues economic reforms and foreign policy late last year when he saudi princes and business men were arrested on allegations of corruption some of them were only released after after paying hefty fines the highly anticipated listing of the state owned oil giant aramco on global stock markets has been put on hold and i have been summoned decided saudi forces would join the war in yemen in yemen backing the yemeni government three years on from the fighting it's they who think that continues and it's led to what the u.n. calls the world's worst humanitarian disaster the blockade of cattle since last june by some arab countries was led by saudi arabia and they split the gulf

cooperation council causing regional instability now jamal khashoggi it was all an inside story a earlier this year here's a bit of what he told us as he cautions the crown prince about his ambitious economic reforms to get about what is budgeted for project is something. handed billion dollars more than half a trillion dollars over what we have right now in our. end for i'm going to see something for four hundred billions. what he did because that is five hundred billion. what if what if that money goes to west what if a lot of the product didn't do a white elephant this is good it just gets you know you that's why i would like to see more to kind of balance to saudi arabia so such adventures would not go on and checked i.d.'s need to be checked by the saudi society because it is zero if you

should or you got it. so jamal khashoggi they're really talking about the need for oversight on all of the mega financial projects they're in place including things like the new york mega city project let me just bring in washington d.c. . say that clearly the u.s. is a massive client of saudi arabia trump says the rios president says that is worth one hundred ten billion dollars that was fact checked by the washington post those deals haven't quite been signed yet what's washington's reaction here is the crown prince as jamal khashoggi just said running a shop or sing the singlehandedly or does he need much more oversight than he's getting. well we know that when crown prince mohammed rose to power after he pushed out the. mohammed bin nayef who was at the time they crown prince

and he forced him into retirement for lack of a better term all of that was contingent upon us support and once that had once that had happened. he left the kingdom for the first time in march two thousand and eighteen to come here to united states to tout himself on one hand a reformer but also on the other hand to lure american businesses to saudi arabia but what it really was about was. mohamed been some on felt that he had direct support from president trump and his son in law jared kirshner and they had helped push him forward to become the de facto leader so that that is the bets that m.b.a.'s made at the time of course now that this affair is playing out.

and the united states what has happened is that. fear has now become part of u.s. domestic politics so in other words democrats and dos who oppose trump and his policies are now joining the anti saudi bandwagon and all the sudden saudi arabia finds itself and across hears of america as messy and divisive politics and that's a very dangerous place for saudi arabia to be because of the unpredictable state of american politics at the moment and let me let me bring you. more deliberate and go ahead you've heard what our guest in d.c. how to say that there is a danger to the u.s. so the relationship due to this affair is that something you would agree with. i really doubt this very much i mean of course you can't exclude i mean if congress if if they're if the republicans. if you have

a real movement being. built up there and exerting real pressure that might lead to some consequences but on i mean fundamentally the saudi kingdom is too big a prize for the united states just to to let it down for four or for an issue like this i mean it would take i think much much more than that and actually i can't see the kingdom itself continuing without the connection to the united states the kingdom has for all intents and purposes been a vessel of the united states and this this this this is going to continue. let me bring in mohammed check out here is it is it that the u.s. simply has no options when it comes down to saudi arabia that they simply have to continue to keep doing business as usual i don't think that washington illini or

view or perspective i think this is a time where the white house on the one hand and the establishment on the other debating to what extent saudi arabia remains an asset or maybe sometimes it turns into a liability so to me i think there are certain leaders in the congress who are looking in to saudi arabia from the perspective of liability that's why they are now resisting more deals and they are reconsidering the whole u.s. saudi relations at the same time i would like to summarize my point this is a moment if we add the case to the arm core to the twenty three and the on the war in yemen and the escalation toward iran this is a moment of an eclipse of the saudi power regionally and globally more or what i think it seems to me that nobody would disagree with the promise of more than

a team has been some man promised the saudis and the gulf nations however his tactics are more of a real politic mikki of elian ways therefore he is now defeating himself by old days arabs and slanders in other words i don't think that there is a reward for that absorb in or ignore and they think in internationalization especially between in the west european american governments and so there it boils down to what profit you bring to it and to promote difficult financial and i think that i'm so far has defended especially his statement yesterday he is trying to preserve the one hundred ten billion dollar from investment from saudi arabia but the question is can he maintain this while the congress and other individuals even within his administration are saying no we should not. kind of we should not invest

much in the errors on him as a man and then we will lose more in the long run so it's a mother off wait and see and i don't think that the international relations of saudi arabia will remain the same the world they were two years ago let me bring in know about here. what we're hearing there is that there is a u.s. saudi relationship which is crucial and that needs to continue but does the u.s. crown prince relationship need to continue is that what the real problem is. well let me just clarify i agree with what was said by my two fellow panelists here that the u.s. saudi relationship will prevail and that it a strategic but what is different now compared to the nine eleven attacks in two thousand and one is that when president bush at that time made a strategic decision to preserve a u.s. saudi strategic partnership even at that very difficult time he had both political

parties behind him what has happened this time stat. the opposition to president trump calls himself resistance and they will do anything once democrats come into power they will they will reverse all trump era policies and could have direct consequences for saudi arabia and i wish that was my initial point and that is why saudi arabia is in a very treacherous position right now back to your question what what really is at stake here is that this isn't the relationship between saudi arabia and united states it's not a relationship between trump and b.s. it is between the two states and it's between the two people and the question is if if the relationship just becomes defined by personalities that kid really jeopardize the entire relationship going forward and certainly on the economic and security cooperation as we have seen now that businesses are potentially pulling

out of pledge investments in saudi arabia over over a distance over this let me just say just it does seem to be a relationship based around as you know the u.s. president donald trump and you have the crown prince mohammed bin both very large personalities both wanting to do business on a personal level now what we're seeing and what we're hearing is that the mohammed bin soman is under a tremendous amount of pressure right now from within the u.s. government not necessarily within the. else so where does this all go let me bring in mohammed circle right now is there a way out of this the allows the having been summoned to survive just very quick i think between the. case we will see less presence of how of this from an indiscreet in other words a couple is in washington and london and elsewhere will void did it with him directly they will go through other channels so now i think king. reemerge as

the defacto ruler of the same time i think some of the sentiment has activated the just debate so this is something that he was not put in a prepared for therefore i think the u.s. . and saudi relations will be kind of this debate of politics versus more of politics just the vertices of that of course is going to happen it's going to there we are running out of time interesting thoughts from you all i want to thank you. and mohammed shook how he and thank you too for watching you can see the program again any time by visiting our website al-jazeera dot com and for further discussion you can go to our facebook page that's facebook dot com forward slash a.j. inside story and you can also join the conversation on twitter our handle is a.j. inside story for me and the whole team bye for now.

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has complete confidence in a joint team formed with turkey to investigate the disappearance stephanie deca begins our coverage with this report. they are explosive allegations the washington post quotes turkish and u.s. officials confirming that turkey has or g.-o. and video recordings that prove he was killed inside the saudi consulate you can hear his voice and the voices of men speaking arabic an anonymous source tells the paper you can hear how he was interrogated tortured and then murdered another source says men could be heard beating. this is a crime the reason it is a crime that it is joining forces appearance is that going out and killing. so many of them and one of his appearance and if you if it's true that he was assassinated inside in the sea and they would also be responsible for extradition. so there's

a possibility it's clear in the kingdom of saudi arabia it is for them to review his fate is where this time saudi arabia has remained silent since its initial statement left the consulate shortly after he arrived and that the accusations of murder a basis for the revelations that turkey has would you and video evidence of what is alleged to have happened is ramping up pressure on the kingdom if true it would explain why turkey was so quick to conclude that he was killed inside that consulate but it also raises questions as to how turkey had access to what exactly went on inside the diplomatic mission and has been using turkish and foreign media to get its message out feeding through a steady stream of leaks of what appears to have been an unprecedented sequence of events of a well known and well connected saudi journalist who returned to the consulate to finalize paperwork in order to get married never to reemerge and i was horrified

because he assured me. when we were in london that there was nothing to be concerned about. he said on friday he had been to the consulate there to see them very well although they were initially surprised to see him. promise them if he came back again a few days later they would issue him with the papers he was off of. so he felt. it was ok but apparently they prepared a trap for him on thursday night turkey's presidential spokesman said they had agreed to set up a joint working group at the request of the saudis to investigate the disappearance of mr. saudi delegation has arrived in turkey on friday for that purpose turkey's been waiting to search the consulate and also the home of the saudi consul general they need the saudis permission to do so but it seems if the latest reports are true that the turks already know exactly what happened to. stephanie decker

al-jazeera istanbul let's go live to istanbul now our correspondent. joining us from there the saudis saying they have complete confidence in this joint team but to each of all what will the team be doing. very good question elizabeth let's start off with this latest out of the statement is only the second time actually that they're spoken since tomorrow which will she went missing the first was to deny that's he was in the building when everybody was asking for them to prove what took place this time the second is they're trying to say well you know this is going to be a good investigation we have confidence in the turks and it's very much a vote of confidence in the move forward but when you look at the actual makeup of this team that's has been sent and the way in which they've been dispatched it actually leads us to believe that they will be more concerned with trying to find

a political solution diplomatic way out of this crisis than they will be in terms of establishing the facts of a criminal investigation it has one of king solomon's most senior advisers at the head of it's this delegation arrived in ankara the political capital of turkey did not arrive in istanbul the scene of the crime and therefore it would seem based on the way the which in which the turks have been operating as well over the past just you know roughly ten days or so it would seem that the focus is to try and find how best to manage what is a crisis that involves not only saudi arabia and turkey and our bilateral relations but the very basics of international relations in terms of the vienna convention and the sanctity that is given through diplomatic missions it's already been established as far as the turks are concerned that he was murdered they have the evidence which proves that they've shared that evidence with. different governments as well as some of the members of the press and that is what has made it such

a foregone conclusion what we're looking at now and what we're trying to figure out is exactly how this will impact on the geo political setup that we have right now in the in the region and i suppose that that is the reason why is why even president and the on have not come out publicly officially with the information that they have because this has become unfortunately about simon much more than the murder of a journalist. indeed and if you actually look at the way in which president of iran has commented on this issue it will give you an idea of just how sensitively the government's years treating its own is not known to be quiet he doesn't shy away from controversial issues but the fact that he did in the beginning and the fact that he used such measured words since gives us a inclination of just the kind of diplomatic nature the diplomatic route that

the government has chosen to pursue in this crisis possibly also the fact that the turks feel now that they have a lot of leverage over saudi arabia because of the evidence they have because they've managed to establish what took place and that's something that's what work in their favor. it's important again to look at this. not to forget when we're talking about the politics here that this is the life of a journalist this is the life of an innocent person it is a human story before an off the river thing goals there is something that is grossly on wrong with what took place but in order for that to kind of fit into things the unfortunate reality is that there are governments that are looking in ways in which to. i'm not going to say use this but at least to kind of minimize the losses or at least increase the benefits that they can have from a situation that's very quickly spun from being the case of

a minute missing saudi journalist to an internationally watched case which is grasp attention of world leaders the world over jamal thank you very much for that for now that is just live and istanbul and kushal g.'s disappearance has prompted some big names to pull out of saudi arabia showcase business conference later this month but u.s. treasury secretary steven chu and as bucking the trend so fast saying he still planning to attend many on the haunch takes a look at who's n. and who's out. it's been dubbed to the down loss of the day is it a who's who of the world's business leaders investors celebrities and media gathering in the saudi capital and all part of prince mohammed bin so man's grand plan to draw investment and global business telent to the kingdom but with the events just two weeks away some of the big names have taken flight one of the first to pull out his billionaire richard branson he's also suspended to direct

a ship some saudi tourism projects and talks over space fame chair business leaders from viacom i.o.l. and h.p. inc are among those to follow suit from the media world the new york times has pulled out as a media sponsor and andrew ross sorkin the new york times columnist and see him b.c. anchor leads those either reconsidering or shunning the event completely davos in the days it is one thing but the development of saudi arabia's futuristic new city neon is quite another year to gain more big names backing away from involvement in the saudi myka city project at the business conference last year the crown prince reportedly took selfies with the team days given the serious questions surrounding jamal khashoggi disappearance many recognize now isn't quite the time for photo opportunities in the kingdom and saudi arabia saying the conference will go ahead

live to our white house correspondent kelly health at who is in washington d.c. society just saying that the conference will go ahead treasury secretary steven urgent saying he will attend why why is that committee what's he been saying about it. well he in an interview to the domestic media here in the united states he essentially said that he believes that saudi arabia is still a terrific partner particularly when it comes to the terrorism financing center that was set up by the president along with saudi arabia back in may of two thousand and seventeen when he made his first foreign trip there to riyadh many on capitol hill having some problems with that statement however given the fact it seems somewhat ironic given the accusations against saudi arabia but having said that the treasury secretary says he is still planning on going he says if information changes he may change his itinerary but until that happens he's proceeding ahead i think it's important to note in that if there is different

information and still we are awaiting intelligence potentially to be made public in some form or fashion we've heard this from the secretary of state spokeswoman we've also heard from the president that there is a report that could be out soon that is part of something that they are compelled to do here at the white house now that the magnitsky act has been triggered by senators on capitol hill who are demanding more information want to see sanctions at the highest level of the saudi government put in place the white house is under some pressure it's under the microscope to come up with some answers and of course we will also be pressing the president to try and get some of those answers he set to be leaving the white house in the next hour where he does have an open press availability and we are hopeful he may continue to talk about this case because so far he has not provided many details and the last time he did speak about this company he said that he doesn't believe in you know punitive action like sanctions because that will result in a loss of business with saudi arabia.