the food onto its calm. there is massive demonstrations across india and there was. an awareness that the leaders the film struggle could call strikes and protests which would paralyze the country. seizing the moment of british weakness three leaders spearheaded the push for independence. you are allowed me rule mohammad ali jinnah and one hundred k. gandhi. at first they shared the goal of a free and united india one country one people regardless of religion. the great chance to hear that message of gandhi leader of the demands for india's independence. was marred by gun you mobilize the masses who gave them the language of things like civil disobedience and nonviolence who spoke of the national the

struggle is a struggle for truth he gave it a strong one mystic fervor and he completely inspired the masses to rise up behind him a gandhi himself a lifelong preacher of nonviolence and gandhi when tom fairly quickly to establish himself as the spiritual leader of the indian national congress led freedom struggle. the indian national congress was a political party made up of the elite of indu and muslim society. it had been pushing for self rule since the turn of the twentieth century. with gandhi's mobilization of the masses the party transformed into a populist movement and attracted new leaders with new ambitions men like to warlow . never was very attracted to my gun the and gun he was very impressed with and he was gun these hand-picked provision to lead the. the sort of political part of the

national movement gandhi himself never took any political position didn't want one and nearly everything from leading the indian national congress as one of its youngest ever presidents to becoming eventually the first prime minister of independent india mr nader presided over the first cabinet meeting both name rue and gandhi were hindus but the third member of the influential trio was a muslim or more harm it generally one of the legion or was an extremely interesting man educated very anglo file in fact culturally far more on your file than the new the new rule gandhi. over his dressed in western clothes had western habits and enjoyed his scotch and and his source agism as ham sandwiches he wasn't particularly strongly observant muslim and a man who was hailed. as the ambassador of hindu muslim youth. a lawyer jinnah began his political life within the hindu dominated indian national congress

. later on he also joined the muslim mean a group protecting the muslim minority. both parties were fighting for an independent india which at the time was gina's ultimate goal. jinnah. in strongly opposed to the idea of a separate muslim nation and indeed he is saying this is british divide and rule they want us to be divided we've got to stand together we've got to fight for our freedom if we don't fight for our freedom to get that we will never be free but he increasingly gets sidelined by a new younger generation of leadership among whom particularly there is there is never who is his nemesis bandit now who calls for an indian republic is accused by the league of working for domination over the muslim minority but i'm making everyone with britain's grip on india we can name root and the indian national congress grew in power. maybe wanted a new india to have

a strong central government run by his party. this alarmed general who argued muslim majority regions should govern themselves it was a losing battle you know realized that given the imbalance in political support between the league and the congress the only way the league was ever going to actually come to any significant power was by advocating a separatist plan. thousands of kilometers away in london records reveal deep insights into the fall between geno and need and this is one of the repository to which the number in the at the national archives private's letters jinnah sent to british officials shows a relationship beyond repair at this point is extremely suspicious of the congress

and he feels assets propose it would be prepared to seize power by force that the may have been infiltrated the indian national army. and that's he regrets that's the muslim league hasn't organized in the same way so we're talking a serious mistrust at this point yet i think this indicates complete breakdown in trust between between the two poles season and that you know it's the leadership of those policies new delhi and although the scene looks much gina any root had first come together to fight the british now they were fighting each other disturbances against the muslim league to reach the end of life by nine hundred forty six any of the united india had about hearing all about god but i believe that there is enmity between muslim and the breakdown and the time of the indian politics was on the streets as tension spilled over into violence. chaos erupted in major cities

first because of a grim audio post by british and indian probes during the worst drought in the history of calcutta. road vantec in many places battles continued between muslims and limbo for muslims the fear of being ruled by hindus convinced them they needed their own separate nation. even jr the man once hailed as the symbol of in do muslim unity now demanded an independent pakistan. after a century of british power in the empires was finally forced. charged with overseeing the withdrawal was a decorated voile officer one who would go down in infamy louis now battered. new delhi airfield and the arrival of the viceroy designate mo button is a sort of vaguely comic character looking back. prancing peacock who loved his

roads and costumes and love to appear as the viceroy not particularly. a man of some christmas. of great sort of personal self worth he was received i think he you know whatever little homework he did was fairly modest and when he got to india i think it was a crash course he started meeting the various leaders and had his own likes and dislikes inevitably but very quickly decided that this thing had to be this hot potato had to be dropped as quickly as possible unless the bird his hands and those of his or those of his masters as his and the english government lauder led him on battle have taken their faces on the ground because we now know that it became viceroy of india in march one nine hundred forty seven britain had originally planned to leave india more than a year later in june one thousand nine hundred eighty eight but mountbatten wasn't going to wait that long man boughton decided to accelerate even faster partly

because he found his control on the control of the british soldiers over india slipping and so here celebrated to august fifteenth one hundred forty seven and with that headlong rush into disaster happens with the british unable and unwilling to prevent some of the horrors of who are unfolding before their very eyes horrors unleashed by hastily drawn lines on a map the northwest state of punjab was home to hindus sikhs but mostly muslims it was split with one side forming the bulk of pakistan. in the northeast of india the state of bengal was cut into the predominantly muslim eastern half made up another part of pakistan. separated by nearly two thousand kilometers of indian territory it would eventually become the independent country of bangladesh was a well thought it was an ill thought out. when the british had to draw

a line they pulled in a civil servant who had never been to india before and was sitting in his cotswold garden when he was told that he had to fly next week to india and divide the country into. and no one was pleased with the line he drew inevitably. the stage was set for british road again in august one thousand forty seven as the flags of india and pakistan were raised ordinary citizens were left in the dark as to what this meant for them. on that day of partition in august that show boundary had been unsuccessful to know whether they were in india or pakistan where they could stay where they lived for centuries where they'd have to move and it's only after the people tune into their ideas to hear whether they will now be part of pakistan or india everyone.

suddenly people found themselves on the wrong side of a new border muslims in india hindus and sikhs in pakistan. there had been ethnic fighting between muslims hindus and sikhs before the partition set off an unimaginable massacre out of the horrors on the fires like the blitz the the villages are all burning hayricks are all the platforms are literally washed with blood because hello to hindus waiting on the platform to travel to india to be massacred on another platform was covered in blood because the training just arrived from india full of dead muslims. total chaos. in the rural areas hideous eons of pregnant women lying with their bellies ripped open babies literally rested on the beds journalists in

a forty seven who had covered the opening of the nazi concentration camp there were two or three journalists who had covered that and then they ended up covering partition and they said that they saw more gruesome things in the punjab punches side than they ever did in the concentration camps muggle born white the photographer writes a graphic description and she says you know i saw i should but what i saw the punjab was a million times. at the time the british estimated two hundred thousand died in the violence the consensus today among most historians is that the death toll was at least a million and the british had lost control long before production and that became clearly evident and visible in ninety seven but in a way more terrible than anyone had ever expected it was a complete and utter mess total math. some suggest that britain was aware of the

impending horrors that would come with dividing up the indian subcontinent it was a mess made worse by britain abandoning its colonies so quickly in the stockmen which is which is a telegram from the foreign office to its evidence in the national archives suggests british leaders knew months before that ethnic violence was spiralling dangerously out of control they say over it over ten thousand persons have been killed and many more injured over the last six months of the previous year had been extensive communal violence to be actually used the words civil war yes yes they mention here. widespread recrudescence a man single most an organized and spontaneous civil war. the british were pretty much aware well through the forty's that the communities were all me but they didn't want to get involved in what they regarded as the. pretty arctic descent into communal frenzy. famously goes on hunger strike begging for peace and mary was

weeping and broken but. there are no images i think about bashing in head bowed in the shade. history is been told he will be. but it time with india just thirty kilometers from the border with pakistan. this building has been transformed into an easy keeping alive the memory of those who suffered the most partition is not about the political events that led up to partition it's about the impact on each person who went through it and what it might have felt like for them to leave behind their homes to leave behind their friends to leave behind

a life that unknown and to move to a new land you know and to have to rebuild afresh it was less migration of people of partition of assets it was this collective migration of sorrow. you've done a lot in just a few short months america. is the driving force behind sars partition museum seven it's really shocking because if you think about the fact that within a few years of nine eleven happening and nine eleven museum was there and there are now numerous holocaust museums there's an up build a full apartheid museum so countries around the world have walked a memorial lies these. events that have shaped them and i think it's it's very sad that. you know this hasn't happened so far in the subcontinent. and survivors want to tell their stories. here it is. but the stand

here. i'm a lot swanny remembers the day find the right in the doors when i deny doing mental disturbance she'd know. they need done this side of the. police are about to see made a funny little play the. mama. that. a sunday panther states and i live in the. league used to believe in. what they see in the me. back door and did much maybe my dad and. the big could learn to put their lives within the law they need to see plainly needing they cannot believe that nothing. can be even be compared to one. another but. it's stories like these museums curator is hoping to capture before it's too late my grandad's ninety three now and we've seen over the last

decade so many of his friends leave us you know and so there's a realize ation that within a few years all these stories will unfortunately last. but they are tales dog just a form. we're also like to find where muslims sikhs and hindus protected each other. molecule believes the recounting of what happened in partition. and it's all been a trip between pakistan and india that exist today. i think it's really important that we highlight the stories. of humanity only highlight the stories of you know friend helping friend neighbor helping neighbor but also a stranger helping strangers. and the that those narratives shouldn't get lost because i think a lot of people who did make it to safety made it through the help. of someone they

knew. hopefully one outcome on this would be that we remember our shared humanity. the shad history. journeys of possible discovery more american here and then more air and b.s. al-jazeera is correspondents tell their past and stories that have mocked their lives i feel sad that they have to endure the difficult time i was going to do for your town like my family status and wealth has benefited from their choice to enslave people. al-jazeera correspondent coming soon the cricket world isn't about much fixing i mean you have to think why would you give me a go and then we didn't bring the media it's the you know the big bang theory.

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from ankara saudi arabia is also trying to form an alliance by itself despite its diplomatic. initiatives with turkey we have seen oh i see countries showing solidarity with saudi arabia and saying that saudi arabia has a recent reforms actually which are mainly led by the crown prince mohammed bin so none were being targeted also we have heard mahmoud abbas from palestine and jordan and united arab emirates is saying that they are standing by saudi arabia the disappearance of jamal khashoggi threatens to impact the wider saudi economy its main stock market index in riyadh fell by seven percent on sunday before recovering slightly. a large deal a large rebel group rather in serious in the provinces that it will maintain its positions as the deadline arrives for rebels to withdraw from the buffer zone to

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a moment in time. snapshots of other lives. other stories. providing a glimpse into someone else's wild. inspiring documentaries from impassioned filmmakers. with nice documentaries to open your eyes on al-jazeera. i. planned every evening here at the waca border soldiers from india and pakistan put on a display of showmanship nationalism and hostility.

seventy years ago the british drew a line on a map dividing their self asian empire into tunisia. it led to the biggest most violent migration in human history a million people died. for survivors like joginder seen called forgiveness is the only way for over a million little. girl who. will go over me or go. through what. we thought we were all very vulnerable. when. argue for them or. they go aboard were negative. two lovers and i love. reading all the trouble i've got in this block and we see

only. we're not in a giggly able lot of the. but politicians on both sides haven't forgiven or forgotten. seventy years on the face the division of britain's empire continues to drive a bitter i'll still be between india. and nowhere is animosity as fierce as you catch me. a picture rest territory turned around. today it's one of the most militarized regions in the world. where pakistani and indian troops face off. the. border and sleep about it here in pakistani administered kashmir and few foreigners

are allowed in. but we've been granted special permission. to keep. this mountainous region looks peaceful but it's a highly volatile area where fighting can break out at any time. over the last seven days up to one hundred thousand people from sars have been killed. in. the deadly violence began from the moment the two nations of india and pakistan were created. to the

accession of kashmir is the unfinished business of politicians. the feeling was part of his song that kashmir would naturally sheet to pakistan. kashmir was a muslim majority state ruled by a hindu maharajah had troubles in kashmir where india supported the project in many ways it should have gone to pakistan because it had a muslim majority but it is hindu my raja chose for it to come to it it was a choice forced on the maharajah when weeks after partition pakistan sent in fighters already the rebel forces have left a trail of bloated and burning villages on the way the pakistanis simply sent in a large number of troops in fact many of them were so court irregulars armed tribesmen from the northwest into kashmir to seize the territory and overthrow. the . rampage and eventually that prompted the maharajah to call upon the indian government to send in the troops reinforcements continual to pardon as

the indian troops consolidate. india are promptly paratroop to the soldiers. they beat back some of the invasion but a ceasefire was called leaving pakistan in control of roughly one third of the western side of kashmir. and and leaving the rest to me. that ceasefire in one nine hundred forty eight has resulted in what is now known as the line of control today's front line up it remains the big hole in. the bone that neither dog will let. india and pakistan have far too brutal wars over kashmir and the battle rages on troops against troops. and civilians again soon. to

pakistan india is a ruthless occupying force in a muslim majority blame. for india pakistan and its military. the intelligence service the i.s.i. are have been carrying out a campaign of terror on its territory for decades in the face of determined intelligence effort to. send militants across the border into kashmir to train up. many of them have been armed trained financed equipped and occasionally even offset by the pakistani military the pakistani i.s.i. has embarked upon what has been described in pakistani literature as a war of death by a thousand cuts we learned never to underestimate the enemy for general assad to ronnie the former head of pakistan intelligence using any means to defeat the enemy

is justified for me any that can be used for a particular purpose. durani served in the military for four decades and as the intelligence chief he was responsible for pakistan's strategy against india. every yes. if you do not have enough conventional a suit because of a lot of your enemy. you do not rely on a conventional response. and among those assets mujahedeen fighters allies of pakistan who in one thousand nine hundred eighty s. had been waging war in neighboring afghanistan when the soviets pulled out of afghanistan a lot of the would have been with nothing else to do were diverted by their pakistani handlers to four meant violence in kashmir and they principally are the

ones responsible for the destruction of kashmir. armed by pakistan to battle hardened muslim fighters poured into indian administered kashmir. india hit back hard crushing the armed movement and anyone thought to be supporting it kashmir is remained pretty neutral until the one nine hundred ninety s. when excessive violence by indian security forces which in many cases raped kashmiri women behaved in a terrible man and they were terrible torture chambers set up in kashmir with electric shocks being used on the genitals of young kashmiri kids i mean lots and lots of horrors took place and kashmir is today of a very alienated very very alienated from india not all of them want to be part of pakistan either. i certainly would not suggest that indian forces have been. always shall we say of the most that followed diplomatic in the way in which

they've conducted their or their operations historian shushu to rule is also an indian opposition member of parliament you can imagine the enormous pressure they're under in a conflict in which. a hostile neighboring state is funneling armed people weapons bombs counterfeit money all sorts of resources that's very very hard to to maintain self-restraint in the face of all of that in the mean. innocent ordinary human beings are suffering at both ends the suffering terrorist violence intimidation and menace on the one hand and the inevitable repression that comes on the other side. seventy years on kashmir is no closer to peace it's been. a worsening spiral of pakistan encouraging militancy indian state cracking down the crackdown then

creating more resentment some of the ones or resentful going often and and getting training and equipment coming back to the militants on the cycle keeps going. in islamabad pakistan's capital we come to a rally condemning india's presence in kashmir. it's run by a group india and the us consider a terrorist organization. firing up the crowd is how feast of dual brendan mark leader of. a group the un says is a front for lashkar e tayyiba responsible for deadly attacks in india something the group has always

denied. is. up. as the rally breaks up we make our way back stay there to try and speak with ninety . five the u.s. has put a two million dollar price on his head. it's not surprising then that he's well guarded can you truly say you're not sending fighters weapons into kashmir or beyond into india can you truly say that. yes a home. big secret neighborhood bought it here heavy equipment nor not for just for example done. many get back i'm

done i'm into. but indian officials say mac used group is far from peaceful. they accuse them of masterminding the deadly attacks on indian soil. in two thousand and eight heavily armed gunman entered the city of mumbai killing one hundred sixty four people and injuring more than three hundred. after initial denials pakistani officials confirmed the attackers were all from pakistan and all linked to lashkar e tayyiba. even then it took almost a decade before pakistan put a piece saif the group's leader and mackie's boss under house arrest has your group not sent fighters into the interior. yes a lot of people. here will. do how low will strikes will you

in your capacity. every day in school to use more me you cut it a lot of people ahead. of me. instead mackey blames hindu nationalists for carrying out a campaign of violence against most but. in india over the past twenty five years there have been major outbreaks of religious violence that have chilled thousand mostly muslim. american in fact a lot and in some places there might be a couple of comments straight. ram medevac is the general secretary of the ruling party the hindu nationalist b j p he's also a former spokesman for the r.s.s. a right wing group often accused of encouraging violence against muslims nor heard from our government. from the government. and the country

committed to maintaining the uncommon and harmony in the country. rights groups say since the bee j.p. came into power in twenty fourteen the attacks on muslims have served. it's a charge rejects totally false in fact that black three year of how been the war would be here when it comes to community. but for some the reality is starkly different. we've come to the region the main water which is predominantly muslim it's communities like these that are starting to feel the heat from the more violent elements of hindu nationalists.

you know news. and. dairy farmers you shout car his father and some neighbors were returning home from a cattle market with two cows they got. suddenly they were tapped for him out of boston by. the embargo i would like very guarded local. noons of all of a sudden hum milissa lake i see that her heart of. gold. which is only. for hindus cows are secret recently there's been a spate of attacks by hindu vigilantes targeting those they suspect of slaughtering cattle. marty marty. or margaret

got there so many. jackie yes some of the pond to logan. or catch cats got. it got better garrick or boiling away. or. managed to escape with his life he was lucky his father died from his injuries two days later devastating the family. that i. didn't call. you should not only lost his father he says he also lost his old way of life one where muslims and hindus live together in peace is. there when i can go to

him. when the cup i'm going to be in the muslim monica. are going to be very clear. but it is going to do the much for mother who didn't do them nor. about it. despite the government's assurance that confound me is still waiting for justice. months after your shots father dart his alleged killers are yet to face trial. increasingly hardliners in both india and pakistan are still being really just and political division. in mumbai we find these prejudices alive in the younger generation.

i. go to some. distance. across the border in islamabad we find more kids passion for the same sport and harbor the same future. oh. what if.

they are all going to listen. to be. going to the set i'm listening. what did your grandmother see when you first said that you want to. get over my dead body that they're going to make the pakistani activist the car you want to change those negative attitudes. in many ways that think that this generation is far more hardline antagonistic and more partisan than the generation in one thousand forty seven because even though a lot of families you know who who migrated who suffered partition went through horrific tragedies there was also co-dependence was also coexistence for the younger children today there's no coexistence in pakistan you don't come across an indian let alone in the world. according to a it's

a situation made worse by governments censoring the story of what happened in nine hundred forty seven the state has emphasized and reinforce certain partition arthurs over other partition so much of the invading in textbooks or in the media narrative that that also state sanction is a lot of into going islam and hostility and only to the bloodshed and i have expenses of my own grandmother you know for twenty five years of my life only spoke of the last or did you have a hindu or a sick friend and all this story started come out and she said didn't you know you know a sick family helped save my sister partition so no i didn't know you know these stories have escaped generation. the absence of these stories from official history has come at great cost to the young child who is hearing that you know hindus are responsible for genocide and hindus must never be trusted and must never be friends

with how do you expect their child to think anything else these are children that are going to school and i'm memorizing hatred. oh my god we've all become so tall and now i'm is now working with young people in both pakistan and india to help build bridges between the two countries. she invites us to an online chat between students in karate pakistan and mumbai india. is i think we have some questions for you what if. this is the first time some of these teenagers have ever spoken to someone across the border mongolian gang is there anybody in this flooded street food so you've all i don't think you can find whatever you want anyway so what i'm trying to do now through our work is get them to talk to each other and get them to access these alternative history is that whether through skype or exchanges over those two through talking to our own

you know and working through this you are to have some challenges. but we haven't heard good things about just on. the enemy is going on since for that bullet to be honest it's the same on this site . about india there are. these casual chats may not seem like much but they have a big effect meeting people and realizing that they too are people just like us has been. really important in it shaping my view of what india is they're just as into our culture and they're just as into our musicians our movie that i was as we are into their. own now i know how they are just like i was and there's no point in. here it was made in

a spark but the thing to get everyone cordell and we take a lot of time. i think it's very important to let them express that hatred you know because i don't think you can move on from partition because partition isn't a static over because it continues to shape us it will continue to. the naaman these students are trying their best to reach across the divide. but seventy years of hostility are difficult to overcome. the violent birth of these two nations is a legacy seared into their collective memory. and as long as the truth. reconciliation remains a distant dream. hello

has been a welcome spell of showers popping up all over the place in the western side of iran you can see them here on the satellite picture and rather more obvious cloud which is focusing on tajikistan i think in particular with rain or snow the next couple days stretching down to the north of afghanistan so that's active weather and this cold air tucked in behind us the temperatures drop where is the showers down here in the same sort of temps regime we've had for a couple weeks so hard thirty's they tend to be dying away on monday in particular on tuesday whereas temperatures dropped here and the snows in homs to now marty and tashkent really south of el monte now back to the levant still showers around at least of the higher ground. and iran maybe one or two in iraq so much is still high twenty's in beirut and it's quiet then further south thirty fortune the hard times

is slowly coming down this is a bit more obvious that still remains of bluebonnets made landfall in yemen so just a mass of potential heavy rain they'll be flash floods in the world will be flash floods in the desert to be honest and that rain stretches right up in the mt quarter and hints that by thursday could be a shower too from it in doha but the focus has got to be yemen and maybe southern sidey with persistent heavy rain. does the state designation state sponsor of terror tell us what that designation means how bad is that people sit on. the seat denise foreign minister. mohammed ahmed talks to al jazeera. and then decides that i'm glad both on the false image in a kind of. they found out when they did make it seem. if you got the lead

to medtronic watch saw you with. my night. produce festive one cannot think of. my nigerian women a strong with. my nigerian on al-jazeera. the saudi king cole stuckey's president to discuss the disappearance of jamal khashoggi in istanbul. hello i'm adrian said again this is al jazeera live from cairo also coming up big gains for the green party and germany's regional elections it could weaken chancellor merkel's coalition. the saudi and iraq war and yemen makes the task of

going to school anything but simple. and violence on the streets of nicaragua as police break up new demonstrations against president that he will take on. saudi arabia's king solomon and turkey's president. have spoken by phone about the disappearance of the saudi journalist jamal khashoggi thinks on. one says that no one will undermine the strength of their relationship and has reaffirmed his commitment to a joint investigation al-jazeera has learned that the head of the saudi intelligence agency has arrived in key interest to meet officials saudi arabia has thanked the u.s. for not jumping to conclusions but warns that it will retaliate against any threats u.s. president donald trump warned of severe punishment if saudi arabia was found to be

behind the disappearance meanwhile the u.k. france and germany are jointly calling for a credible investigation into control g.'s fates of ford and j.p. morgan of the latest companies to pull out of a major investor conference in saudi arabia let's go live now to istanbul stratford is outside the saudi consulate charles let's just take stock for a moment where are we at with the investigation into the disappearance of jamal khashoggi. well certainly the consulate the smalling has opened for business that being very few people going inside so far certainly we've seen this kind of thing over recent days since this crisis started the consulate has not been closed but as you say there is seemingly no sign of movement in terms of access for this joint investigative committee to be allowed inside the consulate as we've been reporting the saudis very much exercising their

rights according to the vienna conventions who refuse local authorities access into the consulate. but we have been speaking to some sources in the government or close to the government here who say that those negotiations are ongoing and they are very happy with the amount of time that turkey has taken in even in releasing any kind of a formal statement as to what's to be sources in the government say they have a terms of what they say is proof that could show she was murdered inside the embassy those sources saying that it is important to broaden this out on to the international stage in order to be able to garner some sort of consensus before pushing forward let's also forget that there has been a police investigation a turkish separate turkish police investigation that has been going on since this

crisis started but of course that police investigation does not have access to the alleged crime scene as i say these negotiations still ongoing but no sign as yet as to that it's a joint committee being given access why is all of this taking so long. well these are the questions that everybody is asking of course it is hugely politically sensitive they see issue and it is caused a major international crisis for saudi arabia although the world stage turkey is very conscious of its relationship with saudi arabia. as all the other international players that are watching this situation very closely according to government sources that we've spoken to one of the big sticking points in terms of allowing access for this joint base it's a committee is the nature of the investigation itself the government source this morning saying. there is great debate as to how in depp's this investigation is

going to be it seems as if the suggestions being made to the saudis are very nervous potentially about an in-depth forensic investigation being done inside the consulates. there is concern certainly that among the turks that they want that deep investigation that big forensic investigation to be done but the sources saying that that seems to be the big sticking point at the moment again underlying you know the extent of this crisis and just how politically sensitive it has become just many thanks indeed i was there as a child struck that they live outside saudi arabia's consulate in istanbul the main stock market index in riyadh fell by seven percent on sunday mike hanna reports now from washington d.c. . the saudi stock market suffered its biggest fall in years following president trump's warning it recovered slightly during the day but it was the purse tangible

sign of the impact of this crisis on the saudi economy. and impact too on the once cozy relationship between the trumpet ministration and saudi leaders a statement released by the saudi news agency threatening global retaliation against any sanction came just hours after president trump spoke of severe punishment that saudi arabia approved complicit in jamal khashoggi his disappearance. no dodge among members of congress that this should involve economic sanction despite president trump stated reluctance to pull such measures so i would just say this to you or for confidence if this is proven to be true there is going to be a response from congress it's going to be nearly unanimous it's going to be swift and it's going to go pretty far and that could include arms sales but it could include a bunch of other things as well european leaders to making clear they will not stand by they must have seen the huge international concern from the united states now from britain france and germany what they need to do is to cooperate fully with

the investigation that the turks are asking us to do and to get the bottom of this and if as they say this this terrible murder didn't happen then where is jamal khashoggi and that's what the world wants to know here a former cia director costing down to the vehemence saudi denials of him told them and their denials ring hollow very much ring hollow to go after a permanent resident states who writes for the washington post and doing it on foreign soil at a diplomatic mission to me would be inconceivable that such an operation would be run by the saudis without the knowledge of the day to day decision maker of saudi arabia that's crown prince mom been sent. in an apparent bid to diffuse the tension the saudi foreign ministry has released a tweet thanking the u.s. and others for refraining from jumping to conclusions despite this though

a relationship that was once so warm is along with the saudi stock market reaching a new low i can or al-jazeera washington let's hear now from some of your heart a who's a professor of middle eastern politics at the university of oklahoma he says that despite political pressure in the u.s. focusing on arms deals with saudi arabia there is little appetite within the leadership of either country to cancel weapons deals. president trump does not want to cancel this arms sales for all different kinds of reasons and the saudis also want to go through i don't think china and russia would hesitate for a seconds to take the place of the united states as the leading arms supplier to saudi arabia but again there are costs and some not necessarily apparent that would go with something like that started the officers many of them are trained in the united states and some in western europe there are military is geared to those

kinds of arms switching out sophisticated weapons systems all of a sudden for russian made were chinese made weapons causes all kinds of problems having to do with interoperability and training and maintenance and so on so this is not as easy as simply mohammed and someone taking a decision snapping his fingers and going forward there are real costs involved what are the long term implications potentially on the saudi economy and on confidence in the saudi economy as a place for investments mean it's clearly a huge economy and there's a spaces for people to make money and companies will do so but if there are real questions about these kinds of issues and so on the net is going to lead not only that but many others to think twice and three times about investing a dollar in saudi arabia. the largest armed group in syria's last rebel held province says that it plans to stay put despite a monday deadline for withdrawing from the demilitarized zone hyatt's. h.t.s.

didn't say whether it accepted or rejected last month's deal agreed in sochi between russia and turkey but the ad lib agreement set up a demilitarized area around the northwestern regions surrounding it live province the zone was meant to be cleared of heavy weapons by toba tens of rebel fighters by monday live out of beirut let's get more from zero zero. for us so they know it today the second deadline for the implementation of that deal is it being implemented. well there is still no sign on the ground no movement of fighters like you mentioned the so-called radical groups groups deemed terrorist by the international community they are supposed to start withdrawing by october fifteenth withdrawing from this buffer zone which is bringing really the province of idlib in northwest syria there's no statement as well from the turkish government have to remember turkey is overseeing the implementation of this deal

but a statement released yesterday by the sham this is the main military alliance on the ground they didn't explicitly say that they support this agreement or that they will comply but they signaled readiness to do so just one of their statements they said we appreciate the efforts done inside and outside which is of course a reference to turkey to protect quote liberated areas to prevent an invasion and to prevent massacres we know that this russian turkey deal to create the buffer zone is a game to prevent a possible syrian government offensive and we have to remember is a very pragmatic group a few years back they rebranded themselves they disengage from al qaida in the hope that the world will no longer consider them you know a terrorist organization and last week they quietly complied with the deal they didn't make any comments they didn't comment on the reported withdrawal but they did withdraw their heavy weapons at the end of the day it would be suicide for them to stay in this demilitarized zone because turkey not only used persuasion and

dialogue to convince them it also used the threat of force it also said that it could use the moderate opposition to take on these so-called radical groups if they do not implement the deal. does what happens in this demilitarized zone define in the face of the entire province so. no because this demilitarized zone like i mentioned it brings a round it live it creates really a new front line between the opposition and the government troops and their allies but a few days back we heard the syrian president say this is just a temporary deal the syrian government wants to regain control over the whole of province a sure shot rinty and that's what people are afraid of we keep talking about fighters but there are three million people who live in these for this province and many of them are wanted by the syrian government they do not want to return to live under state control so people are quite worried but at the end of.