tv NEWS LIVE - 30 Al Jazeera October 17, 2018 10:00pm-10:34pm +03
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a company with direct links to the royal courts in saudi arabia it's very difficult to see how it is the consul general in turkey not even the most senior diplomatic figure in turkey obviously he's doing so the ambassador how he would be responsible for this and not somebody higher up particularly considering the way in which saudi arabia is governed and ruled. it is important to note here peter that aside from obviously these details have come up there was some leaking allegedly that had come about with regards to. the saudi consul general himself saw or heard when it's happened that apparently there was a conversation that was had between him and these agents whereby he had also them not to conduct this specific operation inside his office at least told to speak again these are rumors or at least reports that are coming from our own sources but
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it is very clear that in a situation like this so high profile in the diplomatic mission in a foreign country with all these different components that i mentioned there how people could assume that this was rogue elements or not directed by the very top is very difficult to fathom come bank i'm sure in the next hour or so in the meantime thank you very much. well the u.s. secretary of state mike pompeo having a busy thirty six hours before he went to turkey he was in riyadh the saudi capital where saudi leaders told him quote a thorough transparent and timely investigation would be carried out into the disappearance of jamal khashoggi some senators in the u.s. are skeptical about whether that will actually be allowed to happen mike hanna now from washington. mike pump a.o. held meetings throughout the day speaking to the king the crown prince as well as the foreign minister he came away with saudi denials and the pledge that a credible investigation is already underway they made
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a commitment to to hold anyone connected to any wrongdoing that may be found accountable for that whether they are a senior officer official they promised accountability for each of those persons whom they determine as a result of their investigation has deserves accountability including members who were they made no exceptions to who they would hold accountable they were they were just very they were very clear they are they understand the importance of this issue they're determined to get to the bottom of it and that they will conduct the report more war get a chance to see it be they each promised that they would achieve that force president tramples i spoke to the crown prince on the phone who he says totally denied any knowledge of what took place in an extraordinary statement to associated press president trump says that allegations of saudi complicity ah and i quote another case of guilty until proven innocent this in reference to his nomination as supreme court judge read cabin all who was accused of sexual assault but together
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with the statements by mike pung peo it would also appear to be part of a concerted strategy by the trump administration to insist that there is no complicity among saudi leaders but the shop here dogs with views expressed by congressional leaders senator rand paul tweeted saudi arabia is not our friend they fund radicalism around the world we don't need to be arming them they are the worst actors out there promoting terrorism. and strong criticism from another republican senator of the crown prince referring to him by his initials m.b. s. this guy has got to go sorry arabia if you're listening there are a lot of good people you can choose but m.b.'s his tainted your country and tainted himself by congressional anger supported by a former director of the cia i do hope that they're going to draw the line at this and hold not just the saudis and mohammed samantha account but also the top ministration can and not let the saudis get away with what appears to be the
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killing of a u.s. person a permanent resident of the united states and a journalist for the washington post they cannot get away with this i think that this is basically the downfall of mohammed and in the new york times a picture of a man allegedly identified as a suspect by turkish authorities he's described in the report as a frequent companion of the crown prince in a blow to muhammad bin sad months insistence of innocence three other suspects are said to be part of his security detail mike and al-jazeera washington let's bring in my colleague kimberly helka who's standing by for us in the washington bureau so kimberly there seems to be as well as say something's got to be done here attitude coming from senators coming from congressmen and women there also seems to be a stance that says we may not not actually be allowed to get to the truth. well there certainly is some discomfort on capitol hill and that be putting it
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mildly with the approach that the white house has taken as we've seen in the reports that we've had up to this point in this hour that the secretary of state mike tom peo seems to be leaving his meetings not only in riyadh but also in turkey sensually declaring them successful because of the commitment he has secured the promise by the saudis that it will investigate in that it will hold anyone accountable for wrongdoing that would include members of the royal family but capitol hill it doesn't appear that many are feeling comfortable with those promises and assurances from the white house in fact wanting to take it a step further as we've seen all week republican after republican as well as democrats but notable that the republicans of the president's own political party are coming out saying look if this white house is going to be a part of some sort of diplomatic cleanup operation then we will take action take a listen to what the speaker of the house paul ryan had to say on the domestic
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media wednesday morning. first of all it's really disturbing. if this is the case it's atrocious and we have laws for this we recently passed the magnitsky act which is a man who was killed in prison in a russian prison so we have sanction laws on the books for situations like this so i think these are the kinds of things that we'll be looking at in congress. are going to say you know this was. a new saudi government that was going to be reforming opening up transparency. moderating islam and to see something like this could be a real setback. kimberly obviously believes that there will be a real open transparent thorough investigation but however he relays that information relays the conversations in riyadh to donald trump in the coming what twelve hours i guess it's not going to be an easy listen for donald trump because
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he's got to say we have a huge diplomatic problem we have a huge international criminal problem we have a huge political problem with an ally because that's what they are the saudis are allies of the united states that relationship goes back more than seventy years. that's right and it's not just mike pompei or relaying those conversations if you remember less than twenty four hours ago donald trump tweeted that he had had a phone call with the saudi crown prince directly and that he accepted his denials and he even tried to compare this to the very controversial brett kavanaugh hearings for the supreme court justice saying that you know he was kind of tried in the court of public opinion and once again this was a case of guilty until proven innocent those comments are not sitting well with ordinary americans and they also are widely out of step with world leaders so there's been some frustration on the part of the response of the white house is
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seemingly having a shifting view of the events that are taking place in real time and with modern technology americans are watching this at the same time as donald trump and so they seen him kind of dial back as comments first saying that there would be severe punishment if in fact there was conclusive wrongdoing to be found by the saudis but now it seems that he is pushing back rejecting the push by congress for possible sanctions so again this is not playing very well particularly we have congressional elections coming up in less than three weeks eventis appreciate my next point kimberly very briefly is that another issue for donald trump as well you know last night on twitter your time early morning our time he was talking about job creation in the states they want good news stories on the front pages of the newspapers they want good reviews on fox and friends going for which the midterm elections they don't want the news agenda dominated seats by the quote most of it for most
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americans let's be clear for most people around the world a relatively obscure but respected journalist who had citizenship not citizenship who had residency rights in the u.s. . yeah residency and if you're living in washington it was essentially read out of side the borders of the district of columbia and the suburbs of northern virginia so this plays very close to home and certainly the members of congress seem to be taking this very forcefully in terms of the action the president seems to have made a deliberate calculation or risky while be at ray before this election that what matters are is preserving that relationship that goes back to one thousand nine hundred thirty three the strong defense ties the strong military cells because as you point out that is a big driver of jobs in this country thousands tens of thousands hundreds of thousands of jobs and billions of dollars of sales and this president has come into office promising to deliver on creating jobs and he's taken the gamble that that is
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more important right now then perhaps putting at risk the ties that have been in place some seventy years kimberly thanks very much. well for two weeks we've brought you full coverage of the case of jamal gene is a quick reminder of the man at the center of what's become an international diplomatic crisis the saudi journalist was once close to the inner circle of the saudi royal family here and his reputation as a reformist by pushing boundaries and questioning government policies in two thousand and three her shoji became media advisor to prince turki bin feisal the prince headed saudi arabia's intelligence service and later. to the u.s. but last year jamal khashoggi went into self-imposed exile in the u.s. after becoming concerned about the actions of crown prince mohammed bin cell man he told al jazeera in march he left the kingdom because he didn't want to be arrested chris phillips as a crime scene investigation specialist keeping us company through the coming hours
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of this evolving story he joins us live from london chris phillips imagine for a second you're running these two investigation teams you've got eleven days presumably mirrored by eleven turks how do they work together. you know what it's really really difficult to be honest because you're not going to actually know who's on whose side and i think that's a key thing here actually probably possibly the best for all would be a joint international investigations team that was able to have remit to go in and deal with this because because once you've got the investigation and the crime scene analysis etc going on in turkey you've also got the people that are probably almost certainly responsible for this are somewhere else and that's really really difficult and i think i think probably there needs to be a an international kind of investigation team to help out with this and in the meantime imagine for a second as well somebody one of those investigators finds d.n.a.
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evidence they find something that says jamal who showed she was killed in that building that then becomes a source of argument between the teens between the countries and they start questioning each other's credibility maybe. exactly and in order for this to be to be really transparent it does need to have people potentially from outside both countries but of course turkey wouldn't be too pleased about that either but but this don't forget this crime scene is actually actually happened in a part saudi arabia the embassy is considered that way but but but there's so much more to this than just the crime scene to be quite honest whether what they do what they don't find d.n.a. evidence is pretty much immaterial now it's clear that something really bad happened in side those buildings and the investigation team really should be trying to find the body in order to find out exactly
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a little bit more about what's happened i think actually the turkish probably know a little bit more than they're letting on at the moment and if they know they're probably the u.s. will know as well and i think that will probably be leaked over the next hours and days ahead what do you think it is the you know what's that intel. well we don't know how many that's something i would just be summarizing on but clearly they had some. some either a bug or someone inside the embassy giving them information that they know an awful lot about this that they wouldn't know otherwise so i think probably a lot was known about this the the ah and i think we will find out in the coming months and or sorry coming hours and days ahead but i think i think release the saudis have got to get a grip with this because this looks so bad for them across the world and if they don't deal with this fairly and rightly then you know they just take a big dip in the world's estimation so demanding i know chris but one brief point i
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mean when you're talking there about the use not wanting perhaps not wishing to put words in your mouth not wishing not wanting to be examine themselves too closely could there be to do with the tapes the audiotapes and the videotapes that we're told again and again and again are out there and it's got nothing one theory says it's got nothing to do with the what she was wearing that was saying top one is bluetooth to his phone is because when the audience in the video recording equipment was plumbed in by the saudis they subcontract the job to turkish companies and turkish companies put in a ghost system underneath that and that's how the turkish authorities had the information they had to leak it to the world's journalists when they were getting all their ducks lined up in a row before they went public with what they knew to be they say evidence of this man being killed. well it's it's a common known fact of monks all countries that everyone spying on everyone else and if if the turks can get any information about what's going on in the saudi
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embassy then then of course they would if they have the opportunity to get that information then they would have it and the last thing they want to do is tell everyone about how they did that so there are all sorts of ways that you can spy on people espionage is is hundreds of years are we countries have always been doing it and of course nowadays with techniques such as mobile phones you've got cameras c.c.t.v. cameras you can you can listen to the vibrations on a window even to pick up the the conversations are going on inside the room so there's many ways that you can do that and of course the turks won't be too keen on telling the saudis already want to us about there or about their skills and abilities in doing that. let's talk briefly chris if we made an area of this inquiry this investigation that really kind of speaks to your private specialty forensics if you're one of the saudi team one of the turkish team whoever or another international team in a couple of weeks or a couple of months is it easier to find all the d.n.a.
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that's been painted over or that's been flushed down a drain that's been bleached or chlorine washed. i think it's fair to say that anything that been painted over or flushed down the drain is is pretty much gone unless of course they were they were monitoring those trains which i think is probably unlikely i think the key thing here is we shouldn't worry too much about the d.n.a. the that the trace evidence we know that he went into the embassy we know that something bad happened to him inside the embassy it's plenty of evidence of that by the sounds of it the turks have got that's not really the point i think the point here is if you that sort of that sort of information that sort of evidence is really useful to take before a court but it sounds as though they've got verbal evidence they've got tapes and they've got maybe videos that will show that in any case the key point is now who actually did it who authorized it and and what the world's going to do about that
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chris phillips in london thank you so much chris for coming on and giving us this window this opportunity to take a look into how they will do it chris phillips in london. seventeen people have been killed in an attack in a school in crimea most of the victims are thought to be teenagers the russian government has opened an urgent investigation to find out what happened in the city of quetta there are reports of an explosion followed by gunfire let's get more on this breaking story from step is in moscow step just explain to us what we think happened here. well a whirlwind of events in the city of courage in the east of crimea at a school of occasional training school it started with a bomb blast it was a very loud explosion it came from the canteen of the school and there were also
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gunshots heard a lot of damage at school windows were broken a lot of debris ambulances were seen and military trucks were seen at the scene as well a lot of teenagers became victims but also the teachers and personnel of the school immediately any russia in moscow they said it was a terrorist attack they said there was all that there was an explosive device involved so a lot of reaction came after that russia said they were sending troops to crimea emergency helicopters were sent to evacuated those injured there was a huge panic when investigators from russia went into the school after everything had come down a little bit they were they were they found the body of an eighteen year old student inside the library who apparently shot himself and so far investigators are considering him the only suspect who was involved in this attack what else do we
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know about the eighteen year old. well he was a fourth grader and he came to school and immediately started shooting that's all we know we don't know what his motive is what his background is as well he's a very young man he's only eighteen years old it's a strategic place the city of kurds for russia of course because it's recently connected with a bridge between crimea and russia put it has actually opened that bridge personally and that also explains the huge panic that came from moscow after this explosion took place also schools and children in the city were asked to go home immediately the work was a lot of concerns that the day it was not the only attack that was taking place there could be more but at the end of the day it seems there's only this one eighteen year old student who was involved and yet at the moment investigators are
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still trying to find out what was the motive thanks very much to us in their reporting live from moscow when we come back on the other side of the break we are expecting to hear from the u.n. special envoy to syria step in to mr updating us on what the u.n. thinks is the latest situation in syria will analyze not one for you and we'll also get more on the aftermath of the disappearance of jamal khashoggi we'll see you very soon stay with us. we're. i have dedicated almost my entire professional life to the bench and fight against corruption and what i have learned is that we need champions we need also to shine the light on those shampoos and this award bridges that gap that existed in this.
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khashoggi. troops name was used to rent a private jet turkish authorities say it was used to fly a team to istanbul but they suspect killed the journalist a planned search by turkish police of the saudi consul general so minister has been cancelled due to a lack of cooperation from saudi arabia in the meantime the u.s. secretary of state has made a flying visit to turkey on his way home from meeting the saudi leadership in riyadh. one other story at least seventeen people have been killed in an attack on a school in crimea the russian government and an urgent investigation to find out what happened in the city of care which there are reports of an explosion followed by gunfire. a big story in europe so far today e.u. leaders are gathering for a decisive breck's that summit later today talks with the u.k. have stalled over what should happen with the border between the irish republic and northern island well before heading for the summit in brussels the u.k.
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prime minister there is a may has been addressing parliament at home on the issue if the u.k. doesn't get an agreement in the next few weeks it will leave the e.u. in march minus a deal that's likely to result in serious political and economic problems for the u.k. and for some other e.u. member states. some preparations are already underway for a new deal brags that lawrence lee reports from the biggest port in europe rotterdam in the netherlands. the dutch love to grow tomatoes the netherlands is the world's biggest exporter of the fruits in the some of the u.k. gets really hard of all its tomatoes from here or at least it has done the assumption is that a no deal rex it will mean a no some are so britain are you talking on about empty shelves on the u.k. side for the price in fact. probably but there at the same time is for a. product that is not going to show it has refined or the other new
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markets. the british believe in that report slightly earlier we will go back to it if we can in the coming minutes stephanie in a store there the u.n. special envoy to syria giving us the latest on the conflict in syria and of course into its seventh year let's listen in to what mr de mistura is saying. so let me recall how we did arrive at the middle east that deeds are now on the table and indeed have been further revised more than once and updated in the new list. please continue thank you. this final statement talk of the need to include i quote. i'm quoting the thought you find of the ignorant mr president
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syrian eg birth civil society independent tribal leaders and women and court wait a quarter again adequate representation of fear nick and religious complement and court the sochi final statement made clear that it was the year the geneva process ended facilitation of the visual envoy that the final selection would be made. actually in truth it went even further than that the secular general has asked me to remind the council that in addition to the terms of this or chief final statement itself an explicit un russian understanding was made during the consultation which took place just before a un attended torching namely that i as
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a special envoy would be free to draw not only on named emanating from thought but also on are the names including of syria and who did not attend if necessary to form a balanced incredible lift and let me recall also that security council resolution twenty two fifty four anyway mandates the un to convene parties in the body to go process and tasks the geneva talks to said of cage will end process for drafting a new constitution. the middle east was developed very carefully believe by the un we received imports listen to many including bigger ranters of course and also are those above all we all did our own careful homework with thought out credible a neutral theory an expert including people who were played the role in previous
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constitution making process who could bridge between and build between their thighs and who they do sides could contractible it work with we looked for respected of the representatives independent and of the syrians of standing individuals who could somehow represent the many syrians who are not political but still deserve a stake in their future in any other constitutional process of course we do know that all the city and like all of us have some political opinion or leaning that is totally natural but we sought a balance between doors leaning. so that no
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political side could dominate the committee this is a very key part of what we consider the credibility illegitimately of the list canals good legal legs their lives can you kindly thank you. we ensure that other great representation of different take nick religious and regional background as well as a balance between those living inside syria and the millionth of theory and for the moment living outside the country due to the conflict. and finally with the full support of the general mr president and as part of our commitment to give effect to the security council resolution on women peace and security we insisted that the minimum of thirty percent of the constitutional committee should be women
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this meant bring in many qualified then exploited women of all backgrounds into the middle third indeed the proportion is almost half women that is what has guided the un air force to facilitate the middle third and to revise it into a new list as it has already been down. and have also carefully facility to development twenty two fifty four and sochi they both say debt that i should on a. logical basis prepared some basic aspects of process and rules of procedure that could enable the constitutional committee to work. from the treaty live government above the. it would be possible to identify a smaller group of a number of fifteen from each to form a drafting body of the constitution. and we'll pull away from stephan de mint store
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or at the un headquarters building in new york james bays is a diplomatic editor he's standing by for us but first we've got another significant development going on in bull we've been hearing about how this team of eleven so the investigators will be going into that building the flanked the turkish authorities hope flanked by turkish investigators we were talking to chris phillips who's. a leading commentator in the world of forensic investigations and he was saying yes in theory they can find d.n.a. evidence inside that relatively small compound building there are questions to be answered clearly over whether they get into the consulate building and also into the home of the consul general which is anticlockwise around the crescent in that part of istanbul is about two hundred meters in
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a straight line from the consulate building fifteen days ago jamal khashoggi walked into that building expecting confirmation paperwork saying that he was indeed free to marry his fiance to teach a she was waiting outside she waited outside for eleven hours before she raised the alarm as to his absence which then became his disappearance she went to the turkish authorities. the people who say he was killed by a saudi kill squad inside the building say within one hour he was dead you can get various interpretations of pretty grim gruesome details descriptions of what people say happened we were talking to chris phillips a little earlier i was putting the point to him that maybe the reason and this is again takes into the area of speculation maybe the reason why we've been hearing
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a lot about audiotapes and videotapes is because when the saudi authorities because that's sovereign saudi territory of course within another country when they were plumbing in their ordeal and video recording equipment the companies that were doing the work for them put in a ghost system underneath that that was feeding a direct feed of what they recorded when allegedly jamal how should she was killed inside that building three days ago there were those claims that it was actually the plan was to get him into the building after having assured him when he was in the states that he had to go to that particular city you had to go to that particular building but he would be safe the claim was and this is another allegation another reportedly for you to digest the allegation was get
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him into the building detain him interrogate him and then get him back to saudi arabia that process one of the claims three days ago was went horribly horribly wrong. as we've been telling you over the past two weeks of this crisis it is a perfect confluence it is a political crisis it is a diplomatic crisis it is a global crisis because as can really help it was making the point out of washington the relationship the strategic relationship between the united states and saudi arabia is more than seventy years old will stay with these live pictures for as long as they last and we'll talk to abdul aziz. he's a human rights activist he joins us from dublin abdulaziz we're seeing investigators going into the building in real time so much of this saga has been unfolding in real time as you're watching these pictures.
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