he managed to get both sides of the table the syrian government and said well we're not really going to engage with these people because the syrian opposition you've got there they don't represent the actual fighters on the ground so mr de mistura is key moment was in early twenty sixteen when he managed to get a much broader syrian opposition to the table with the syrian government the syrian government though at that point really wouldn't engage on any of the issues and completely ignored the process although they did attend it in geneva and of course what's changed since then is not diplomacy really although the russians have taken control of diplomacy that's happened because the military tide has changed and that's happened because of russian airpower and iranian troops on the ground all along mr de mistura who i've spoken to so many times during all of this has said there is no military solution in syria you have to ask was he ever right about that james peyser diplomatic editor reporting live from the u.n.

in new york james thanks very much. events moving very fast on the ground in turkey because in turkey the team of investigators have now finally entered the consul's residence in istanbul turkey sources telling al-jazeera a bodyguard for the saudi crown prince led the operation against jamal is believed to have been killed inside the saudi consulate in istanbul and really help is standing by in washington d.c. in a moment we'll go to jamal el sheil outside the consulate in istanbul first. joins us from the turkish capital ankara cinema we've kind of taken our eye off the ball when it comes to these revelations about the makeup of this team that went in to turkey what fifteen sixteen days ago now what do we know about them.

well peter the gentleman that you have mentioned. is named as the coordinator the top guy of the operation that was conducted against. as far as we know as you have stated he has been traveling closely with the crown prince mohamed in some manner we have we know that he's named as a close by the guard but also we know that he was heading this hit squad which arrived in istanbul according to the prosecutor's investigation by oh this men has been coordinating the whole the peroration calling others informing the saudi officials and other contacts during the day on october the second and as far as we know since they ever arrived in istanbul on october second until they left in the late afternoon he had nineteen phone conversations through his saudi mobile phone

at the roaming line with saudi arabia among these nineteen calls four of them was done with the private secretary of the crown prince mohammad also he has twenty two what's caused what the technical teams are working on the details because it's an entry and encryption and the phone calls are also since it's a roaming line it's going to take some time for the technicals to determine the content of the conversations but for now it makes clear that this gentleman who has name to be leading the operation has direct links direct contact with the crown prince mohamed bin sound man. thanks very much live for us in istanbul. forty minutes ago forty five minutes ago when those investigators turned up inside the building are they putting a time frame on this or are they just in there until the work is done. probably the latter i mean and if they do have

a time frame we're not privy to it because that as we've been seeing from the very beginning it's been very difficult to get information specifically attributed true different figures because of the highly sensitive nature of this investigation not just because it is a murder investigation but more so because of what. impact it can have on geopolitics on economies on markets we've seen the saudi stock exchange essentially suffer a huge losses we've seen donald trump dispatches secretary of states within an hour of all of this i was not there's a lot of this stuff shows that it shows you just how significant of a situation we are facing here having said that we can try and. figure out exactly how long it will take based on the other experiences with that we've witnessed over the past few days so when they didn't so he took the consulate building which is a seven story building part of a compound that has different outhouses or buildings that lasted for about twelve

hours or so this house behind me here is whilst it is. more of a mansion it isn't as big as obviously the consulate building so we could expect it maybe i would say maybe four five six hours but that is obviously speculative this ignore is that they are going to the house of the consul general the significance is this how these are finally allowed the minute after refusing initially and then agreeing and then making a u. turn and then now it seems finally they've been pressured and the significance more so peter is that the owner or their main residence rather of the house the consul general decided to leave unexpectedly on tuesday and we're not quite sure exactly what his fate is whether he will return or not whether he's given his position or not and that is what's making this saga even more mysterious to say that he's do we know if they'll have unfettered access to every area in the compound because six seven hours ago there was speculation that he was killed i think it was in the area

see within the compound. well that was the information we got he was actually killed or at least dismembered in the last year of the compound they are now in the consular general's home which is about two hundred meters away it's like a four minute walk. we understand that the condition the talks have and why it took so long to get be given access was they wanted and that's that access they are meant to be theoretically given that access however in the presence of saudi authorities the team behind me is made up of forensic experts people from the anti terror units of turkey people from the attorney general's office in istanbul and the deputy. attorney general of the republic of turkey so it is a big team it is a very well qualified team according to the turks one that is well if the reason

why they're going here even though they're claiming the murder happened in the concert is because what they saw in terms of traffic camera footage that recorded a vehicle namely a black mercedes van that was tinted out departing the consul consulates just a couple of hours off the german shockey entered driving through the house behind me parking up into the carriage. for a while with some what they described as mysterious or suspicious movement so they want to see whether they can find traces of blood remember we still don't know where the body or really gets every time or body parts of this journalist is and that is something obviously that maybe they think it could be there or at least they want to establish whether there is some sort of d.n.a. reminiscence in that house to directly link the consul general even more we're not quite sure exactly what they're looking for but they definitely have marked that as

a site of interest jamal thanks very much. to washington my colleague can really help kimberly this time yesterday it was lindsey graham today is pull ryan what's he saying. yeah well i want to first tell you some of the comments that we're getting out of brussels as the secretary of state is traveling back to washington stopping down we did get some audio where once again the white house through the secretary of state is once again characterizing his meetings not only in riyadh with the crown prince and the foreign minister as well as the king but also with the turkish leaders wells being very successful that the air latest from the secretary of state is that the turkish leader says the saudis are cooperating with the investigation conducted by the turks there have been some delays but the turks say that they are set to share with the saudis what they have found very soon i think what we can take away from this peter is that once again this white house is underscoring that they believe that these meetings have been successful because

they were able to secure a commitment that the saudis will hold whoever is responsible for the missing journalist accountable even if that includes members of the royal family but those comments are not playing well here in the united states you mentioned paul ryan he was speaking domestically on national television he says if the white house is not going to take further action particularly in the form of sanctions congress will take a listen. first of all it's really disturbing. if this is the case it's atrocious and we have laws for this we recently passed the magnitsky act which is a man who was killed in prison in a russian prison so we have sanction laws on the books for situations like this so i think these are the kinds of things that we'll be looking at in congress. are going to say you know this was. so severe new saudi government that was going to be reforming opening up transparency. moderating islam and to

see something like this could be a real setback and kimberly we heard those comments late last night your time from donald trump innocent until proven guilty but we've also now in the past two hours got these reports this and saying the person who coordinated the fifteen member so-called kill squad was so well connected to the ring of in a confidence in riyadh that he made twenty two encrypted phone calls to somebody in riyadh and that puts mr trump in a difficult circumstance doesn't it because i mean ok it's circumstantial ok they all reports it's another leak probably from the turkish authorities because they just don't want to put it out into the public domain via a police news conference but it's something else that the trumpet ministration has to be seen to react. right and that's why i think in the last twenty four hours we

saw the president almost as soon as he hung up the phone and that conversation with the crown prince tweeting on social media that once again he has had firm denials from the crown prince of any complicity in any involvement and that seems to be the tack that this white house is taking but it's widely out of step with the rest of the world and even the co-equal branch of government the u.s. congress and so this is very problematic for the white house because it has all the appearances of being involved essentially in some sort of diplomatic clear that correlated with the saudis and that is not playing well and that's why you know you're not getting just comments from the top republican in the house of representatives paul ryan but we've been playing over the week the comments from one of the senior republican senators lindsey graham in the u.s. senate i mean donald trump has decided that this is the tactic is going to take perhaps because of these very key congressional elections that are upcoming in

early november for determining the control of the u.s. congress donald trump came in promising jobs the reason he's preserving these ties with saudi arabia in these longstanding goes back decades is because of the enormous amount of money spent between the two nations both mutual interest when it comes to defense and we have to also underscore despite donald trump's denials recently he also has had business ties with saudi arabia and it appears that this is the calculation he's taking it certainly is a gamble committee thanks very much let's bring in again chris phillips chris is a crime scene investigation specialist who joins us live from london chris really a conversation correspondent talking about the the myriad diplomats and off the back of the i guess the cause that they used as well to get people into and out of the consulate compound does the view of these investigators have to be extended to include those vehicles. yeah of course any

vehicles that might have been involved in this would need to be looked at and examined including the airplanes actually if if at all possible what i would say is the consul general's building is really interesting because what that means that kind of makes it a little bit more official even though this has happened effectively in the embassy if you can then link that to the consul general building then then this does take it to a new level really and takes away from the thought that the consul general wasn't involved and didn't know about it and i think i think all this is just goes to prove a little bit more about the depth of this investigation this required but of course the key point the key point is you need to him interview those people that were there and that's what the police will want to be doing those police officers in turkey those those suspects if you like should be interviewed on the caution. on the tape so that they can give their perspective us as to what's happened and

that's really the case if they can do that if they can if they can bring them back maybe from saudi and to turkey to do that investigation or maybe an independent investigation team go to saudi to interview those people that will be a good way forward as well there's no delicate way to say this chris fifteen to roasts as they were called about ten days ago tourists don't generally travel with bone saws not by have ever experienced any we know that you've ever experienced as well i get a bet. when those forensic teams are in there they're in there we understand until the job is done if the reports that were circulating twelve hours ago are true and jamal khashoggi was still alive when they started using the bones or. what's the evidence they will be looking for most of the the team leaders when he's put in the team leader has briefed his team what's the thing

he'll be saying look for a b. or c. . one of course what you have is trace evidence first of all you want to know that this court journalist was where he was and where he was viewed but of course i mean it's horrendous to even think about it but of course if you are if you are doing something like that to a living body then you will have blood splattering blood splattering go a long way and often are microscopic and can't be seen to the to the human eyes so so that's the sort of thing that they'll be looking for obviously all the other d.n.a. that goes along with that i mean this is absolutely horrendous and and to think that this may have happened in what is an embassy it just makes it even worse but if you're right of course no one travels around the world with a bone saw if that if that fact on its own is true then this is highly highly suspicious and anyone that's been carrying that around is is needs to be interviewed needs to be spoken do have other place and potentially put before

a court of law you mentioned in our last conversation chris ho in your opinion there should be another inquiry once if the dust ever settles on this developing saga when it comes to things like literally body bags does that need to become a multi country interpol multi agency investigation because you're trying to find the original needle in a haystack you're trying to find that one guy traveling under a certain country's passport who went into a specialist shop and said i need four gallons of chlorine and i need six body bags i mean it's a horrible conversation to be having but somebody is going to have to do those those individual lines of inquiry. absolutely and an investigation like this i mean it's probably one of the most complicated investigations you can think of in as much as it's in an embassy and all the people that are involved the fact the people have traveled in and out of an airport into another come back into another

country one of the most complicated things i could imagine and for the turks to conduct this investigation on their own then of course the saudis can say well it was badly treated badly dealt with i think sensibly it seems to me most sensible that they put together an investigation team and don't forget this is a big job this is something that will probably go months if it's done properly i heard just now that they're going to be in the in the consul general was house for ten twelve hours that's nowhere near long enough to do a full forensic search of the whole building nowhere near long enough it's unless they know exactly the type contained area that they were searched then that may that may be enough time but this is a big investigation a lot of friends it work to be done a lot of a lot of interviews to be done with the those people seem to be involved and all that will take time and of course that's got to you've got to have the the authority of the saudis to even interview those people so this is a long complicated process probably dealt with best by an independent team chris

many things and we really do appreciate your delicate touch that you've brought to your conversations with us here on the news giving us some pretty gruesome details but we do appreciate that thank you so much. ok let's just bring you one other story nineteen people killed today in the attack in a school in crimea most of the victims teenagers the russian government has opened an urgent investigation to find out what happened in the city of courage there are reports of an explosion followed by gunfire and is in moscow for us this step what happened. well a series of the dramatic events coming from a vocational training school in crimea in the city of curch there was a gunshot heard and there was a loud explosion coming from the canteen of the school immediately ambulance and rushed to the scene there were military trucks seen on television turned out

a lot of teenagers had become victims of this attack from moscow to worse immediately the thought that that might have been a terrorist attack initially there were thoughts that it was a gas explosion but that was immediately also thrown out then the authorities became speculating about the a terrorist attack russian troops were also sent to the area also emergency helicopters so there was a huge panic because of course it's a sensitive area crimea is a very sensitive area to russia since the annexation in two thousand and fourteen especially because the area the city of courage is recently been connected to russia with a bridge but then after investigators went in after things had quieted down a bit then there was a body of an eighteen year old student from that school who apparently had shot himself he was found in the library they said he committed suicide and they think he is the only suspect in this very tragic tragic event thank you very much

let's take you back to istanbul and wrap up for you just joining us here on al-jazeera what's happened in the past ninety minutes now turkish investigators finally have been allowed inside the consulate building there are a forensic team there is also in turn a team of eleven investigators apparently we're being told mirroring or they will be mirroring what the turkish investigators are doing this is all underpinned by the reality the u.s. secretary of state mike pompei o was in riyadh he was in turkey as well he's now heading back to what. to brief donald trump as to how this open transparent and honest investigation to paraphrase what the saudis were saying about what they want to come out of this will play out over the coming hours and i used the word i was deliberately because it is hours we're being told that the investigators are saying they will be inside that building for eleven or twelve hours is that enough time

we don't know up next it's the stream then come out with the news group also you tomorrow in the lead up to the u.s. midterm election we'll be talking to the american people looking at key issues for voters from immigration to economic struggle to health care system greases women's rights joined us through our talk to her for special coverage and analysis the u.s. military on all jersey. hello there you are in the stream and i'm femi oke a how can the principles of human rights and justice combat climate change that's just one of the questions that i will be asking former irish president mary robinson in our special show today if you have more questions and comments let us know on twitter and each.

mary robinson has. a reputation as a stateswoman and a defender of human rights now she's focusing on how grassroots activists can tackle climate change robinson has a storied career in politics and advocacy she became islands first woman president in one thousand nine hundred ninety she says for seven years before her appointment as the un's high commissioner for human rights efforts were key to placing justice and equality the very core of the un swak other major u.n. responsibilities followed including a yes serving as special envoy for the great lakes region of. africa and that was in twenty thirteen more recently robinson has focused on tackling climate change she served as a un envoy on climate change in twenty fourteen and a un special envoy on el nino and climate in two hundred sixteen she's now merging her commitments to human rights and the environment through the mary robinson foundation climate justice the organization places justice equity at the heart of

responses to climate change and those values are also at the heart of the new book climate justice hope resilience and the fight for a sustainable feature so mary joins us from dublin ireland to discuss climate justice and her lifelong commitment to human rights mary robinson is so good to have you on the street. great to be with you you dedicate your climate justice book to those whose stories of hope and resilience inspired the actual book i would love you to tell us a story about ugandan woman who had the remnants of a house still standing no roof and a multiple number of people all staying with her because that was one of the moments that pointed you to realize that there was a link between human rights and climate change. yes it's very true i mean i'm quite humble about it because when i was serving for those

five years as u.n. high commissioner for human rights i didn't make the connection between human rights and climate change it was when i was in africa and meeting people like constance of keller's from a village in uganda who became a claim as wise woman she was found in fact by oxfam and i was on re president fox oxfam and i first met her when i sat on a tribunal with our spirit doesn't tutu and we listen to five farmers from different countries in africa and four of those five are women which makes sense because women do someone so much of the farming in africa and it was constance when she stood to say very with great dignity you know when when i was asking is this a question of farmers always complaining about the weather and she stood and she said no she said this is outside our experience and that really struck me and i wondered you know in an african village how long is that. and i work

though to myself if you think of a grandparent talking to a grandchild and that grandchild talks to his or her grandchild that's probably the best part of two hundred years and so what constant was saying was this is so different and. in two thousand and seven a huge flood destroyed her village and destroyed school and she formed a women's group to fight back and become more resilient and first of all had to beg for food and then got micro-credit planted trees began diversity begun teaching began to learn about climate change and became this voice of various conferences now in a very good friend where grandmothers together with grandma so on twitter lots of comments and questions for you mary here's one from dee print climate change is a big threat in africa it's impacting hard on agriculture products drought flood except try to mitigate this effect we need to adopt c.s.a. measures and the majority of our local farmers lack the basic knowledge of climate

change and measure to mitigate its effect. it's very true and you know there is also the gender dimension that affects women even more they have to go further for water further for firewood have to put food on the table maize doesn't do well in extreme drought and so on so you need the diversity of crops and so we need far more attention to supporting farmers and in particular even with learned rights supporting women to be able to become more resilient and to cope it's amazing what women are doing and i'm very impressed but they're not getting enough help and farming communities are at the front end of the injustice of climate change because those farming communities in africa that are so effective haven't been responsible they don't drive cars they don't have big manufacturing and central heating in fact they often don't have access to electricity which they should have and that's that's the upside of what we must do

for climate justice is get off grid clean cook stoves and solar and other hydro and wind power where it's appropriate so that everybody has access to electricity so they can take themselves out of poverty and cope with the shocks of climate change i heard you talk about climate change as a manmade problem with a feminist solution that is pretty radical in terms of feminism can actually take the world can your path add a little bit mary. that's part of the pod cast that i'm doing on mothers of invention and we make it clear that you know climate change is a man made problem which includes the generic term that includes women and a feminist solution definitely includes men in fact most recent episode which we did live in new york during climbers week at the end of september included do you

know head of amnesty international and he was delighted as a man to be talking about the feminist solution so it's you know that's the way we approach it but we listen to mostly women of different from different countries from different walks of life incredible stories of what they're doing either coping in the way that constance or colors was coping in her village in uganda or inventing inventing. digestible. cups first of all and then straws to sort to get rid of plastic straws and two young women in the united states are developing. plastic stores that are edible to avoid the plastic we have an enormous range of women. from various parts of the world who are showing their inventiveness their entrepreneurial spirit but also their commitment to climate justice and you know black lives matter young black

lives matter person who is also a woman who's working on also on environmental issues impressed me greatly i want to show our audience a pale one has a little bit of your pockets anything someone says six and this is a little a little excerpt from episode one where vets are very young climate change warrior climate action where he's deciding to take some action in the united states have a listen. my name is kelsey cascadia rosalie on i'm twenty two years old i live in eugene oregon and years old i filed a lawsuit against the governor of oregon then when i was nineteen years old the federal government. there's twenty one young people from across this nation who feel strongly enough that yes this issue of climate devastation is important to them yes they're feeling the harms right now from climate change and yes they want

to represent their voices but also their peers forces and future generations voices in front of government through the courts. so agatha says on twitter about the poll cost i love the dynamic between mary and made her gains at how mary's long career is shared so honestly providing both a learning experience and a source of inspiration from made and the audience and how they approach the climate change issue from different angles profiles different climate warriors so this is an accessible way to get into the whole issue of climate action and climate justice you also have a barometer mary which you use with taxi drivers as you're driving around your home which is what is the taxi driver barometer that you use. well you know ten years ago taxi drivers were the most skeptical in dublin and they do talk a lot and they know everything they think they know everything and they knew everything that denied climate change they have completely turned around there are no very

strong advocates for ireland doing more our country is not doing enough on climate change they want electric cars they want hybrids at least and you know there are real voice know which is good because the do the clip that you just did from the mothers of invention is a very very important case the children's trust case it's coming to hearing in the court in oregon this month it gets the federal government but the federal government is not protecting people from climate change this could be an extraordinarily important case and is only one example of the the what i've learned from those that were interviewing on the program but of course move keeps these very funny remark room we were talking for example about waste and the fact you're on the on the series on plastics that countries of the west of sent their waste to countries like china and china is refusing to take the waste now from developing countries and catherine wilkinson an expert was talking on the program and she said

you know it's not even recycled waste it's often dirty nappies and then move starts to rant about the responsibility of babies to these dirty nappies we all rural africa and you know i like that because that. you are is important and i think young people you know a very able to take their serious points with a lot of human which is really good i want to introduce you to mary to another young person her name is the hendra and she is a climate y.f. an organization impale peru court activity she tweets festival that the key to climate justice and gender justice improve understanding the feminize ation of the countryside where women stay to work the land while men migrate to cities to work increasing both women's exposure to natural disasters and constraining their financial capacity to respond so much in that tweet and she has this to ask you may

have anything. my name is one hundred thirty s. and i'm from lima. i think one of the biggest challenges that we're facing now is well summarized by the most recent i.p.c.c. report which states that we need to peak global emissions rapidly and drastically my question for you would be as a former head of state what strategies do you think are most feasible in this current political context to make those changes happen we know change needs to be from the bottom up but there also needs to be clear cut action taken from the top down thank you. so mary. thank you for such an important question i agree with you about the importance of that report of the intergovernmental panel on climate change telling us what staying at one point five degrees of warming means to the world and the difference between one point five degrees and two degrees and that's really important that we understand that two degrees is the over limit of dangerous and that we must stay at one point five degrees to have a safe world that means as you said we have to reduce the emissions by forty five

percent by twenty thirty which is less than twelve years away and we need a carbon price globally on carbon so that people move away from carbon towards cleaner energy we need to remove all the subsidies on fossil fuel we need to have incentives to move to clean energy and you know top down but the laws of governments matter a great deal but also bottom up if people begin to take it seriously in their own lives then they begin to put pressure on governments they use their voice and their vote and their pressure to make sure that governments are much much more ambitious the small own states and the least developed countries are the most ambitious now for example the marshall islands has said it would be carbon neutral zero carbon emissions by twenty fifty we're trying to get the european union to make a similar commitment with the european union is rich rich countries they should be making that commitment no and i think this is the pressure that we need hey i'm

hearing climate optimism from here but online i am seeing some climate skepticism let me share this if you mark macor climate change is the greatest threat to humanity ever i do not believe governments will act and if so it will be fighting a little far too late one more from thelma a young there's a new kind of climate denial well leaders like justin trudeau recognize that climate change exists but then still approve pipelines how do we push world leaders to do what is necessary. i think you know governments are not at the moment doing enough there's no doubt about that so we're not on course for a safe world and that's serious and that's why we need a really urgent conversation at all levels about this and we need governments to step up more to the plate and to do what is necessary and we're going to have the climate conference in poland and kind of each are very shortly i hope that

governments will take things more seriously what i'm hearing which is quite encouraging is that the business that is not fossil fuel business is beginning to really understand because they plan a bit more long term than the the election cycle of many governments which is two three or five years and then you're facing the next election that's your focus but government's business is planning you know ahead and they're seeing that this is not going to be a safe world unless emissions are reduced and i'm seeing more and more businesses that are not fossil fuel committing to know to zero greenhouse gas emissions in their companies and in their supply chain by twenty fifty and we must encourage that it needs it needs business it needs cities it needs governments it needs states that are below the government level local governments regional governments but it also needs civil society to call for an absolutely insist on a safe world for our children and grandchildren that's what we're talking about.

it's fascinating watching now because you are so while versed on climate action climate change the science the human rights angle of it you have all of that down and i'm currently looking at a picture of you which is a campaign picture from the one nine hundred ninety mary robinson a president with a purpose you barely look different between that time and right now but the purpose back in ninety nine thousand marriages what was it that you wanted to do as an independent politician. the purpose was to open up irish society which was very dominated by the catholic church in a kind of old fashioned way our laws reflected that etc and i felt not least if we were to open up to northern ireland but open up to the world then we must amend our laws or muscle and our laws remove the ban on divorce and legalize family planning

and remove the stigma of criminality on people who are gay and the first measure that i actually took in one thousand nine hundred eighty one was to legalize family planning and i learned a big lesson for me i got very. you know hate letters and pressure and i learned that if you really believe in something you must be prepared to pay a price you must be prepared to be unpopular for a while in order to you know do something that might be difficult at a particular point in time i think governments know have to learn to be unpopular in certain measures in order to get us out of this real problem that we're in with climate change we've got to take hard decisions now because they'll be supercharger in a few years' time and we won't have that window of time that we have at the moment according to the intergovernmental panel on climate change we have that time before twenty thirty that we must take hard decisions and put a strong price on carbon that drives up the price of diesel and gas and oil etc

therefore families that are poor must be protected from that but the rest of us must bear the brunt of it so that we get of safe world that's a hard decision and we have to be prepared to take these hard decisions young mark he's probably thinking right now i wish he could run for president again maybe when you said unpopular i think he kind of forced over what he meant by unpopular there was hate mail and a lot of help. yes and even denounced from the pupils in catholic churches and i'm from a catholic background and it was a great pain for my parents who were very paid up catholics and you know. at the time i was very young i was twenty five twenty six twenty seven and nick my husband we were married in december one thousand nine hundred eighty he burned all the hitler for us and now we regret that because that's part of kind of a social record we're very we believe in archival material but actually some of it

was burned because i was so affected by it but i learned you know to become tougher and to develop the scar tissue in order to be able to move forward and just believe in something not arrogantly but if you know that something has to be done and pay a price for it but go ahead while you're not off this time mary. interesting that we should be out of dipping ting some of your colleagues your other climate warriors christiane i think getting us is part of the architect of the paris climate agreement and that agreement was the members of the united nations saying it is about time we need to take climate action and this is what we're going to do by twenty twenty that is christiana she also happens to be a friend of mary robinson as a friend mary she asked you this dear mary one of the things that i love about you and the many things i love about you is how often you have

encouraged and you've been incited young people to all types of rebellion we're just started by students come from inside of you know. that's easy to answer christiane i grew up in the west of ireland as the only girl among four brothers two older than me and two younger than me so of course i had to have an early interest in human rights and gender equality and even using my elbows and but you know and i had parents who told me that i had the same opportunities as those brothers even though the wider irish society wasn't telling me that it was telling me you know that boys were more we're going to be altar boys or we're going to be priests that we're going to be important in society they're going to be decision makers that they're for and girls and so many hundred cups but christiane you've been a wonderful champion of what we need to do on climate i love your mission twenty twenty i love the optimism that you've always heard i actually am influenced by

desmond tutu when i was on a panel with him in new york and he taught me a lesson when he was accused by a journalist of being why you saw up to mystic and he replied oh no i'm not an optimist i'm a prisoner of hope and that for me was a really important lesson because if you're a prisoner of hope you got to see maybe the glass isn't half full there's only a little bit in it but whatever is in the glass you work on it you make sure that you are actively making a difference fighting back becoming more resilient arguing for change warning about the possibility that we're not on course for a safe world all of that a little susan's basically says what you were just talking about she remembers that quote from archbishop desmond tutu to be a prisoner of hope and then as we were chatting to her she wondered whether you have this attitude of fortune in adversity and to young to remember the war but perhaps it was a little of what those brave people had that you still you're not

a climate skeptic you think that. time action climate justice is still very much possible where does that come from. i think i was very influenced even during my five years when i served as high commissioner for human rights i used to go to the places where there were the worst violations of human rights to the democratic republic of congo to chechnya to colombia when there were when colombia buggered her was was a terrible place for human rights defenders and human rights defenders were teachers trade unionists ordinary people defending their human rights and the courage of ordinary people and their the importance that they placed on rights and now we hear a lot about the shrinking of civil society space that people have less room that if you speak out against a government you can be branded a terrorist even though you've no no no idea of violence or terrorism but you could

be called that because that's what happens now and we have to understand that this is a bumpy time and we have autocratic leaders we have a populism we have a nationalism that's very centered on countries rather than solidarity of a more global sort and all of this means we have to struggle and that's the lesson i learned human rights is a struggle doesn't always go smoothly forward but you have to keep fighting for what is right and what is true and what is important to people and people all over the world wants their human rights they want to be free they want to have freedom of expression they want the space to develop and have a fairness in their society and these are things really worth fighting for human dignity and human rights are just squeezing jungle law a holes in un or youth envoy adequately. hi my name is jamie moore and i am you and you delegate for and my question is how can we make it

a priority for governments to develop meaningful your participation structures at all levels of democracy especially for those who are more seldom heard in an effort to make human rights global issues and development education more elephants to today's young people and its future generations mary just a thirty second onset right at the end of the love. i actually love that voice because young people have such abilities such knowledge of what the solutions are they are the leaders of no not of the future of no let's give them the opportunity let's make space for them let's hear those voices let's make them part of the decision making i'm all for that i'm going to end with a final tweet before i thank you mary robinson this is a live head on who says on twitter she just sent this to us and she says mary robinson seeing you in my early childhood leave the country with the first woman to do so and then advocate for human rights globally by me never question what i could

do as a young irish woman including what i do today work of the united nations in south sudan and it's been a pleasure having you on the stroll thank you so much. travel

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the news grid live streaming online through you tube facebook live and al-jazeera dot com a lot to tell you about regarding the disappearance and suspected killing of the saudi journalist jamal khashoggi the most recent development around ninety minutes ago when turkish investigators finally entered the home of the saudi consul general in istanbul this was supposed to happen on tuesday you'll remember but turkish police say the saudis were the ones to lengths remember the consul general himself left turkey yesterday apparently recalled by so let's start there with. the latest from. well kamala's you mentioned around ninety minutes ago a large team of turkish investigators finally were given access to the consul general's home behind me i'll step out of region and let the calmer maybe kind of

zoom in to show you where we are now this large team as i've described it includes members of different has within the security and law enforcement agencies here in turkey it includes members of the forensic specialist teams that are used for serious crime division. serious crime division in the police it includes members of turkey's answer terrorism squad it also includes members from the attorney general's office here in istanbul as well as the turkish republic's attorney general and we believe the deputy his deputy is also leading this investigation obviously our viewers will remember and come out that a couple of days ago they entered the consulate building itself the then a few hours after beginning the search managed to uncover evidence as they reveal to al jazeera more evidence that german officials she was killed they are the reason we understand why there are here is because of the link between the two not

just because the person who was in charge of the consulates namely the consul general lives there but also because of the traffic camera footage they have of a black mercedes a violent incidents that's what was driven from the consulates which is just a couple minutes walk away from here to the building behind me a couple of hours off the jamal khashoggi and showed the building backed up into the garbage and there was some suspicious movements around it just to be clear jamal is this just the turkish officials who are going on here or is this still this joint turkish saudi investigative team. you know they're calling gets a joint investigates of team they have officially you know commended the cooperation between turkey and saudi arabia on the ground yes there are saudi officials inside we're not quite sure what their job titles are or what departments or of this saudi states that they work for however obviously because of the

diplomatic situ immunity that the consul general's home enjoys as well as the consulate itself the only way the turks could get into it without essentially ignoring the vienna convention would be if the saudis approved in their presence so definitely they're there how much they're actually involved in uncovering something is suspect to say the least considering that they are the prime suspects in this murder investigation so for them to essentially investigate themselves is something bizarre to say the least however the turks have always said yes there is this joint investigations in place but there is also parallel to this and independence one that's has started or was started by the attorney general's office and that independent investigation will see its course until it's concludes all the findings all the evidence is in covers and we have been you know assured several times by

the minister of interior the latest but also by the foreign ministry and other turkish officials that the turkish government and security apparatuses will declare the evidence they have obviously we're yet to see that's happened but that is what they've told the media on more than one occasion thanks jim i will talk to you again soon other developments now in turkish sources of tell down jazeera that it was actually one of the body guards all of the saudi crown prince mohammed bin salman who led the whole operation against jeep we've highlighted it here on the screen top left in the little red box there he rented a private jets that turkish investigators say carried a group of men from saudi arabia to asked istanbul he made several phone calls to the prints. his private secretary on october second that was fifteen days ago when she went into the saudi consulate and disappeared also turkish sources believe he was killed not long after he entered the building they are saying it was one of the fifteen the saudi forensic doctor who beatty who dismembered his body and even told

his colleagues to listen to music while he did so let's talk cynical celia she's in the turkish capital. sin and where is all this information coming from we say turkish officials are they giving any more as to how they found out. you know as the investigation is still underway we can't name the official sources real names but these information all these information that we have been revealing since yesterday they all came from two keys somebody persecutor office from the all these information are already in the investigation file but since it is still under way you know do not do harm to a judicial process we can't name them but as soon as the investigation is completed it will be the oldest elders details are going to be released but what i can say is that in the criminal criminal side investigation report the c.s.i. report after the search of the consulate building has already been completed so

that the details are also coming coming out of this report as well. so then what happens now as this everything you're funny or hear or goes into a wider investigation it links up with i guess what's going on in istanbul as well and the forensic investigation of the other other turks giving any sort of hint of what might come next any sort of timeline. welcome our problem with this case is one of its truest in it is in its own terms because the diplomacy history hasn't ever experienced such an incident before and today turkey's foreign was after meeting with my compere or at the at the uncle rape or december airport turkish foreign minister delivered. a presser to some of the press members and he said that he mentioned that they were not happy with the reckless stance of the saudi consul general so and when he was asked about the

saudi consul general's leave back to riyadh yesterday evening he said that this is the saudi authorities decision to whether whether to send him back to turkey or a keep him in the headquarters so i can tell that turkish officials are cautious and as investigation is still underway i've been speaking to the justice ministry interior ministry and other and foreign ministry none of the officials are willing to talk straight the as the investigation is underway because they don't want to harm the judiciary the judicial process but i must say that from the corydoras from what i have been talking with people on the phone for from the back doors it took a shock which is believe that. the saudis also have the psychology of guilt but of course they are being cautious in terms of the program event because you know saudi arabia is the spot for the hatch for the put graham which is the which is one of

the most important. prayers for the muslim society and turkish pilgrims number of turkish programs is high so it took is trying to be careful about that as well because so many if pilgrims are willing to go to hard also turkey has the platic missions in saudi arabia including riyadh mecca medina the skin is going turn out to be a retaliation so they want to stay in the diplomatic terms but i can say that they're not so much happy about saudi arabia's collaboration or wave maybe we can call on collaboration. in ankara thank you. let's take you back and remind you of how will this story has unfolded over the past fifteen days jamal khashoggi he went missing shortly after entering the saudi consulate in istanbul on october second remember the details he actually went to pick up papers to get married his fiance was waiting outside the next day saudi arabia confirmed he had disappeared but also said that he had left the consulate turkish security sources later revealed they

had information he was tortured and killed inside the consulate these allegations were dismissed by the saudis as baseless lies then a week after his disappearance international pressure mounted on saudi arabia the u.s. president donald trump said the base of the punishment if the kingdom was to blame there was security video released showing the shoji entering the consulate days after saudi officials said the cameras weren't working and then on monday a joint investigation team entered the consulate after days of delays and now we have them entering the consul general's residence as well and with us now in london chris phillips former head of the national counterterrorism security office you've been with us for the last couple of days watching this unfold chris i know we're doing this from a distance we're not there we're not privy to a lot of information but from everything you see about how this investigation is going what do you actually make of it especially the fact that it is fifteen days and it's taking quite so long for there to be the action actually in the crime scenes. well i think the whole point of this is it the whole investigation is

unparalleled you just don't have murders in embassies certainly not that anyone's ever heard of before so so it's really difficult for the turks to to deal with i mean they know a lot more than they're letting on actually the turks i think they in the fullness of time they will they will give a much fuller account of this but of course what we've got now is a series of crime scenes including the embassy itself the consul general zz building which has been searched now twelve hours by the way to search that is not not a lot of time if they've been time limited partick unless unless they know exactly where everything is and then they can go in and search that confined area but you'd want to search the whole building generally so so you've got that to search you've got the vehicles to be searched maybe maybe the airplane if the body was transported an airplane will add to that happen so all these things need to be need to be part of the investigation but you know they came point and this is.