see it for itself and that is how it's been proceeding in recent days and i suspect with this latest development it will continue to make that argument who is mr trump listening to when it comes to his interpretation and then his reaction to this increasingly strong line up of individual components of evidence and supposition and rumor and reports primarily coming from the turkish authorities is it himself is it might pump a zero is that the state department. well we know that donald trump is. healthy consumer of television news and this is getting almost wall to wall coverage here in the united states just to give you a sense of how important this story is domestically so donald trump is getting all sides of the story and many of those sides are not very favorable in terms of his reaction but those in those ones whispering directly in his ear are separate from the television would be very prominently figured into all of this the u.s.

secretary of state my pompei of who's just returned his national security advisor john bolton and even his southern law jared cushion or at all three of those men have had a very hawkish approach when it comes to iran why am i talking about iran because saudi arabia is the foundation of donald trump's middle east policy when it comes to confronting iran this is something we know the national security adviser is keen on doing the secretary of state is keen on doing it's been very hawkish on iran for many years even going back to when he was a congressman and we also know when it comes to his son in larger cushion or his white house aide that he has a very strong relationship with the crown prince mohammed bin solvent so in terms of the sort of geo political ramifications of all of this it appears that the white house is still pressing forward with some plan sanctions against iran that would affect oil exports and they are counting on saudi arabia to fill in the gaps in terms of supply so the donald trump that we know it watches television news is here

in this heavy criticism is hearing members of congress calling first tough action blocking arms sales withdrawing u.s. support for the saudi led conflict in yemen i suspect that also weighing heavily in his calculations the arguments about confronting iran and the overall middle east strategy that this white house seems to want to adhere to how did the ricci news conclusions moving forward kimberly in as much as mr i think could use a. atomic or very briefly in turkey somebody asked him this new said look we didn't want to talk about the details the saudis didn't want to talk about the details but how can you have that kind of conversation without talking about the details and then reporting back on that to your president. there's no question that my pompei own knows a lot more than he's letting on publicly remember prior to him being head of the state department he was at leading the cia he's he's very well versed in details

he's got a legal background he's all about the details but he's not sharing the publicly because he's also a skillful politician and he knows how to massage this message and that's what we're seeing right now is a white house that is buying time trying to massage this message and well the cynics here i should point out domestically and they're also around the world are really seeing through these attempts especially what this looks like is is a white house despite some of the recent strong language in the last twenty four hours for donald trump the consequences for this have to be very severe we've seen them kind of hedging their bets for many days almost allowing the saudis opportunity to to find a scapegoat an essentially allow some of the key players in the royal family to to escape from this scandal unscathed but the world is watching in this case and well the white house seems to be navigating this very carefully using diplomatic language not revealing a lot of the details there's no question they do know the details and they're now

very much aware of that they have to try and navigate this in a favorable manner but again this could have some blowback here domestically because again we've been talking about this a lot you've got congressional elections coming up in less than three weeks and american voters may in fact use this is one of their determining factors when they choose their next members of congress and who will control and which party will control the u.s. congress kimberly as ever thanks so much. well the leaders are meeting in brussels to discuss a variety of issues affecting member states but some of the talks of course zeroing in on what happened to jamal khashoggi france's suspended political visits to saudi arabia and other e.u. leaders have also voiced their concerns paul brennan joins us live from brussels paul the symbolism here crystal clear. indeed and the sentiments here broadly echo what kimberly was just talking about from the american side of the atlantic the europeans here they need to see evidence

if they're going to come to a decision fully informed about potentially sanctions against a country such as saudi arabia which has previously been a big buyer of for example weapons they can't really do we are based on media leaks saw unnamed turkish security sources they need to see the evidence and that's why for the moment the e.u. leaders who've been meeting here in brussels are prepared to give it another couple of days to echo what the secretary of state the u.s. secretary of state said let's give it a couple of days for the investigation to be finished and the reason for that is manifold first of all you know what is the reaction going to be from the europeans in relation to sanctions for example should they go against saudi arabia as a country should the investigation say oh it's these individuals perhaps acting beyond their authorization then it would be enough maybe to simply sanction those individuals to restrict their travel to perhaps freeze their bank accounts for

example that the pressure for answers though is relentless and we spoke to the luxembourg prime minister morning and he's demanding an explanation and a full investigation don't trust the president of the european council on a full thorough and transparent investigation into this issue and the french president and the british foreign secretary jeremy hunt jeremy hunt came out this morning and basically said this is a very serious matter because if these stories are true it would be it would not be consistent with our values and as they're meeting here to talk about the rules based world order to have in the backdrop a situation where a dissident journalist has been most likely murdered in an overseas consulates potentially on the orders of some very high up people within the saudi regime it certainly goes. totally against the rules based world order.

leafy. the facts we know today are mr g. extremely serious and worrying we expect to throw light on this matter we have had exchanges with saudi authorities to clarify all this but in the current circumstances we have decided to postpone political visits including that of our economy minister. who we have been very clear yes we want to hear the results of this investigation we want to see if it's credible if it's independent but if the stories that we are reading turn out to be true will that have an effect on our relationship with saudi river yes it will because if these stores are true and it is still and if they would be totally against of our use and what we stand for as a country. so as i say to the question as to what the response of the europeans will be remains open depends on the outcome of the investigation i think the stance will be a little bit different to america if we get america's based its middle east policy

on close alliance with saudi arabia europe less so you know america allied with saudi because of iran whereas europe has held out an olive branches to iran to try to keep iran on track with its limiting its nuclear program so yeah there is there's definitely a difference in approach between the american approach and the european approach but it begs an answer and the investigation when it comes is going to be sought out sought after by by all sides paul thanks very much. and if you just joining us here on al-jazeera let's just show the latest live shot if we can coming to us from that consulate compound in istanbul because we have got these pretty significant developments since we've been on air in the past what eighteen minutes or so they basically if we unpack it for you it breaks down into five major areas the turkish authorities again via a leak not coming to us via what you would call the turkish police force or even the people running the investigation again is coming to us via leaks but they are

saying they have listened again and again and again to the audiotape recordings not there are apparently some video recordings out there as well will there not out there because the turkish authorities have them reportedly but they have listened at length and in depth to the ordeal recordings and they are now saying unequivocally they can place who was involved in the murder of jamal how short she they can place when it happened they can place where it happened they can also place that leading forensic doctor that was involved and we're all grown ups so we've got to use some grown up language here the man who was responsible for dismembering the body of jamal khashoggi as well he if you've been following this compelling saga he is the man who according to all the speculation earlier in this week and also going back to perhaps to day three or day four who

when people in the room at the time of the dismembering when he started it they didn't like what they were seeing and hearing he told them put on earphones listen to music what you're looking at right now jamal. the last time he was seen alive when he walked in to that consulate building his fiancee waited eleven hours outside the building for him he never turned up. the very strong supposition is that he was dead within twenty minutes of walking into the building by day three or day four of this story we heard those claims saying that no he left he didn't leave we had those claims saying that the fifteen member hit squad they were in fact tourists they weren't tourists tourists don't fly in on privately hired private jets two of them that left the country and then we had those consequential claims

and reports saying that three or four of the fifteen member hit squad were still in the country and then that took us into another layer cake aspects of this story short she met in inside that consulate building we were being told that some of those people had left the country and some of them had stayed in the country and then there was the speculation that followed that that the consul general himself at some point and this is just speculation nobody has confirmed this for us within the turkish hierarchy that the consul general said to the people who were in the process at that point of killing jamal you are going to get me into a lot of trouble at which point he apparently reportedly was told leave the building otherwise you might suffer a similar fate that is one unconfirmed claim in a story of claim layered on top of supposition layered on top of speculation but

what we know as of the past twenty minutes or so we have got these five basic refreshed reinvigorated claims from the turkish authorities and as i say they are now claiming they can place when it happened where it happened and who did it more on that for you just as soon as we can and also if you want lots more background to this story to check out our web site al jazeera dot com is the address you need. people in afghanistan are set to vote in parliamentary elections on saturday but voters in the southern province of kandahar will have to wait one more week to cast a ballot that's because of an attack in the region that killed two senior officials on thursday night it happened at a meeting between the most senior u.s. military officer in the country and afghan commanders among the dead is general abdul aziz the taliban claiming responsibility and is vowing to derail the election

and target anyone who casts a vote it is a crucial poll because the elections on saturday have already been delayed for three years because of security concerns and voter registration reforms the top u.s. and nato commander in afghanistan says he does not believe he was the target of the attack in kandahar he says afghanistan's security forces are ready for the elections my assessment is that i was not the target it was a very close confined space but i don't i don't assess that i was a target we will continue our support my message to the people of afghanistan has been very consistent and you have every right to be proud of your security forces and the preparations they've made for this election despite this unfortunate event tragic event down to kandahar let's take you to the heart of the story charlotte tell us following this one for us out of kabul clearly charlotte people want to vote they need to vote but they must be thinking at the back of their mind when do

a vote am i safe what's going to happen to me my family my husband my wife. it is a very square scary and real question for afghans all over especially after this attack is today i mean the taliban put out a statement two weeks ago saying we will target the elections we will hit polling seem to and we do not want to see this happen we see this is an extension of american influence in afghanistan and we will do everything in our power to stop this yesterday's attack and they did take responsibility for it happened inside the governor's compound in kandahar like you say top u.s. officials including general miller who just arrived in afghanistan in the last two months i miss commanding u.s. nato forces in this country along with top f. kennedy fisher was including the intelligence chief of kandahar the police chief the governor know today everyone in afghanistan is talking about this police chief general razi he died in this attack you stay in this gun bessel along with the

intelligence chief but it has really lift him up people have changed their facebook photos across the country to show his face because he had fought the taliban so fiercely and he was our new young family and he'd fought the taliban so fiercely actually along with general miller but some fifteen years ago and so he was very respected well loved his funeral has just finished a lot of people out in kandahar for that general miller's saying today that it was a great loss he was great patriot and a great friend to him also president gunning announcing the soft undoing the hay has appointed genera zeke's younger brother to take his place in kandahar security across the country for elections is very high polls open at seven am which is in about fourteen hours we were at the election commission earlier today and they were commandos they were vehicles they were trucks you name it to protect all the polling materials as they headed out across kabul today everyone on high alert but

for everyday afghans everyone in their homes tonight who have really just fifty nine million people who have will be asking themselves do i go to vote do i take this risk the taliban have warned that they will attack will i get caught up in this sean thanks very much. thousands of palestinian protesters are expected to turn out for weekly friday protests along the gaza israeli border fence now this comes as an egyptian delegation met both israeli and hamas officials with hopes of mediating a lasting cease fire in the region brokered talks came after a rocket was fired from the gaza strip that destroyed a house in the city of bush on weapons day or a force that has more now from just east of gaza city. well preparations are under way on the israeli side of the border fence here east of gaza city one of the five protest sites up and down the border between gaza and israeli territory and we've seen soldiers laying extra lines of barbed wire we've seen bulldozers shifting

earth around this coming after columns of israeli tanks have been arriving in the area in the last day or so so a very serious show of force by the israelis also a very stern message being given by them to hamas not least through egyptian negotiators saying that this really is the key test as far as the israelis are concerned of hamas is intentions they're saying that hamas needs to rein in the weekly friday border protests two key questions really for hamas what is their intention certainly we've heard from the mosques the preachers encouraging people to come come here to the border areas again and protest but there are also indications that hamas does at least intend to try to reign in those protests to prevent people from getting too close to the border or breaching the border the israelis of the soldiers have been given new rules of engagement where they're allowed apparently to fire at larger distances in order to prevent people from getting too close to the border fence also there is talk of more forceful action

being taken against those who wish to launch balloons or kites carrying incendiary material so a lot depends on whether hamas is able to have the kind of protest here that it needs for its own political purposes within the gaza strip without letting people get too close to the fence itself which according to the israelis would necessitate or at least would lead to a major military escalation on the israeli side and once that happens hamas has also promised a response so a very delicate situation here on the gaza border this friday. this is down to zero my name's peter told me these are the headlines more details. have emerged on the face of the saudi journalist jamal khashoggi turkish sources have told al-jazeera that recordings from inside the consulate confirm to show she was attacked by several people investigators identify the exact place where the killers were and where she was killed the sources say the forensic expert was part

of the hit squad began cutting his body immediately after he was killed but now has more from outside the consulate in istanbul things are adding are suggesting that indeed the scene of this crime could mean well the thing all this alleged murder could and will be areas soon but i think what's interesting is that now we are getting additional information that we need to know this or do you know recording and the mere fact that the thirty three forty's now have come forward and said that they were basing their investigation in the first place focusing their investigation then what they've heard in those recordings well earlier the u.s. president publicly acknowledged the first time but tomorrow show g. is likely to be dead donald trump said there will be severe consequences for saudi arabia if it's found to have been responsible the u.s.

treasury secretary steve mention has become the least a senior official to withdraw from a forthcoming investment conference in saudi arabia the head of the i.m.f. christine lagarde many prominent c.e.o.'s have already pulled out of the conference nicknamed dark horse in the desert france also suspending political visits to riyadh leafy. the facts we know today are mr g.i. extremely serious and worrying we expect to throw light on this matter we have had exchanges with saudi authorities to clarify all this but in the current circumstances we have decided to postpone political visits including that of our economy minister. one other top story for you today thousands of palestinian protesters are expected to turn out for weekly friday protests along the gaza israeli border fence and this comes as an egyptian delegation met both israeli and how mass officials with hopes of mediating a lasting cease fire in the region brokered talks calm after a rocket was fired from the gaza strip that destroyed

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america at the moment look at the satellite picture you see these bright white areas of cloud really push their way northwards and over parts of paraguayan the north of argentina the southern parts of brazil we've seen a lot of rain some places have reported over two hundred millimeters of rain just in twenty four hours so that has caused us a few problems this system is going to stick around during the day today so expect yet more heavy heavy rain and then that pushes its way northward towards salvador there as we had three saturday as it works its way north woods behind it is going to open the door to some flight fresh as a footprint as always just be seventeen for saturday a bit further towards the north from it's been a lot of heavy rain here over the southern parts of mexico is where we've seen some particularly heavy and persistent rain all thanks to a developing feature that is expected to run away towards the west but while it's with us it's going to in hans the rains there and it's going to stay wet even for saturday elsewhere and as you head further south there's also been some very wet weather here in fact for nicaragua where there's been some flooding recently and it

looks like the rains here are just going to stay very heavy as we head through the next few days also expect more wet weather for us in texas this is a region we're also seeing some flooding the rain is expected to continue. the weather sponsored by cattle lease. and actually. this is al-jazeera. welcome i'm peter wu watching the news live from our headquarters here in doha coming up in the next sixty minutes turkish security sources tell al-jazeera they have more evidence that the missing journalist jamal ashaji was killed and

dismembered in the saudi consulate in istanbul. the united states talks tough on saudi arabia as donald trump acknowledges journalist. is likely dead. sending a signal the u.s. treasury secretary drops out of a crucial investment summit in riyadh after some european leaders also withdrew. one other story saturday's vote in afghanistan's kandahar province is suspended a day after the taliban killed two top officials. let's get going breaking news this hour on the news for you turkish investigators are focusing on what exactly happened to journalist jamal khashoggi after he walked into the saudi consulate in istanbul on october the second turkish security sources have told al jazeera investigators have found the exact location where he was

killed with in the saudi consulate building they say audio recordings confirm the washington post writer was attacked by several people moments after. he entered the consul's room then say how should she was immediately dismembered by a saudi forensic expert jamal al sheil standing by for us in istanbul jamal grisly gruesome grim details what else do we know. well you know as this case continues to kind of cut more more details of this case come out they by day it is becoming very difficult to fathom some of what we're understanding in terms of the details of it just because of how grim and grisly as you mentioned. they are really are shocking in times of the way in which she entered this witness or maybe murder like of kind of the swiftness in which

what he was dealt with you're talking about the details of several people descending on him beating him killing him and within moments literally his body starts. being taken apart by this forensic expert these are more details that have been given to al-jazeera by sources close to the end of investigation here it's like it's officials who have been given these details through the al-jazeera nets right it becomes very clear that the turkish authorities peter are maybe sticking to their word not wholly in the sense that they haven't come out and officially declared this in some sort of transparent press conference but they have promised from the very beginning that they would reveal all that's has happened in this case what's befell jamaal federal jian in these details we are getting more and more information as to what occurred it then becomes no surprise then when you start seeing these major. political figures or companies putting out of these investment

companies conference and saudi arabia as well as suspending political visits there because if these details as officials have pointed out to us and relayed that information are indeed as they claim they are then putting out which is probably the least of. the rhetoric of the maybe did the easiest action that can be taken people would be expecting much harsher. possibly punishments being placed on a country that would have dealt in such an inhumane way with a journalist who as we've been saying wasn't a wanted criminal he wasn't. arm he was a civilian and to a diplomatic mission so the latest details as you mentioned there you're talking about security this fifteen man hit squad being sent in that morning they took him a soon as he walked in they beat him and we didn't moments they dismembered him and based on the recordings the intelligence or investigators were able to pinpoint exactly where this took place and that's why we saw over the past few days these

forensic experts and to us spent several hours inside with all their equipment and were able to find as you mentioned initially what we had heard of they were focusing on the c. block section of the building behind me where they believe probably that's where it's a place obviously they're still trying to figure out what happened to the body or maybe they have figured out that i haven't told the media we is obviously the media still trying to figure out what happened to jamal for the remnants as it appears of jamal which of his body so that idea that was doing the rounds about what seven eight days ago that it was an interrogation that went wrong in the worst way that was just a confection that was just so much of a smokescreen we now have a very very clear picture of what happened within a very short period of time. indeed i mean we heard. yesterday a secular state marc from peril saying that they were waiting for the saudis essentially to come up with an explanation as centrally and a lot of the analysts have been saying that what we've been hearing over the past

couple of weeks peter is this idea to float different scenarios to see what could be believable but every single time that's one of these scenarios has been floated it's being coupled by two things one a new leak by that sarkozy authorities to disprove that it's narrative and true you've seen some sort of reaction or maybe the outrage but at least some sort of critical reaction from the international community whereby the big companies have withdrawn from this post in the desert as it's been called or you've had specific governments come out with stronger words and it seems at least that maybe there is some sort so even though it's unspoken and unannounced but there does seem to be some sort of semblance of consensus at least amongst the international community whereby they believe the idea or they believe the information that the turks have so far been giving which is that he has been essentially both short that

a journalist was butchered inside consulates and nothing has crossed so many red lines that this idea of trying to find another narrative to try and find a scapegoat to try and maybe sell it in a different way is just unfathomable for so many people because it risks setting a trend or at least maybe opening the floodgates to other regimes other autocracies other dictatorships to do things far worse another leak more information this information hard to hit seeing that the information we've had to date i guess we do the turkish authorities expect this to go because unless the convene a completely one hundred percent criminal process and it's clearly a crime scene that's clear. but there is not a criminal process ongoing beyond the investigation because they're not holding that news conference we're not hearing anything from mr erdogan on where they expect this information to take them beyond that consensus which is big and strong

anyway. well the foreign minister a few hours ago he spoke again he reiterated he said we will reveal to the whole world in due course and so forth but you know let's not kid ourselves whatever the turks have in their possession but that in and of itself is leverage so we're declaring gets all would consider being playing a hand right i'm in this unfortunate situation whereby we're not dealing specifically or soley let's say with a criminal investigation of the murder of one person whereby we're actually dealing with a much wider chess game between powers between interest groups between not the groups between powers within powers there are powers within the saudi states and within their allies who are for example in favor of crown prince robinson man there were others were loyal to mohammed bin nayef the former arm prince and there are others who are maybe looking for other reforms and so forth so when you're looking at all of that you have to understand that anybody who does have some sort of leverage

over the other won't be so forthcoming to that state or maybe won't be so swift in using that leverage that's hard so far as they're concerned can say that they're doing this in order to wait until they find all the details that may seem very true but also one should be a bit more skeptical in the sense that when it comes to international politics when it comes to the geopolitics that are being played out the rivalry between saudi arabia and turkey the threats that turkey feels it is under because of saudis foreign policy and all of this that this evidence they have won't necessarily be used solely from the for the purpose of transparency but will indeed be used for the purpose of trying to gain as much political leverage as possible jamal thanks very much let's bring in a friend a colleague here in the news chris phillips chris is full of crime investigator with the metropolitan police force in london chris how much detail do you have to

go into with the audiotapes to get this amount of accuracy that they claim to have . well it's clear that the turks have got a great deal of information from these from these tapes i think they almost certainly had those from the very beginning so i think this is a suitable sort of a leak process where they are sort of letting the world know look we know about this we know what happened bit by bit they're going to bring this stuff out i think also as part of this they're continuing the investigation so they're trying to find the body they're trying to get the get the details around how deep is this conspiracy and how hard is this conspiracy because that's that's kind of where they want to go with it but but you won't get that really until you start interviewing people you won't get that until you're actually managed to speak to those people that are involved but when it gets this when you get the siege of speaking to those people is there a chance that might never actually happen because the fifteen member hit squad it

wasn't they knew what they were doing they were skilled they had a certain box of tools literally you were told a bone saw there's no easy way to to to have that conversation i know but we're told that they knew precisely what they were doing they could just disappear maybe their backs where they came from. almost certainly they are and that this is this is a problem with all this is is actually almost certainly not going to lead to any prosecutions but it may lead to a change in the way countries talk to each other and that let's be honest if this has happened once i can imagine it's the only time i think that this is this is something that's so out of the ordinary but actually the fact that his girlfriend was outside and was a witness to this person disappearing actually led the police and gave the investigation a start and how many other times is this happen that we don't know are ok jamal was making the point there that as far as the turkish authorities are concerned if

you've got the evidence and they clearly believe they have that gives you leverage within the context of an investigation within the context of a criminal case being pursued through the courts that's an ordinary criminal case that's an ordinary pursuit of right and wrong justice and law etc this particular case is anything but ordinary it is extraordinary so many levels so leverage yeah ok you've got it how do you deploy it how do you utilize it well it's a it's the reaction of the rest of the world that matters i mean if you bring a comparison actually to what happened to litvinenko in london this was this was effectively state sponsored the person that did it were able to trail them straight back pretty much to putin putin celebrated the person that committed the murder and actually what's happened while there's been there's been lots of you know financial issues for russia since then there's been sanctions by.