good services. basically. crossing swords and saying that donald trump. is a true u.s. senators it's a difficult you know i was just going to say you're absolutely right u.s. senate is a paid a reading role in pressuring the white house to properly investigate the disappearance of jamal khashoggi financial thank you very much under simmons there in istanbul is the executive director of the arab center of washington he was a friend of jamal khashoggi he joins us via skype and if i could just start by asking you about this statement that king solomon of saudi arabia has ordered the restructuring of the kamandi of the general intelligence agency and that restructuring is to be done under the supervision of the crown prince mohammed bin some on the message appears to be quite clear from riyadh the way absolve him completely of playing any role in the killing of khashoggi. i don't believe this is

acceptable i mean i do not necessarily blame the saudis for trying to put a good face on this crisis it's a major crisis it's an existential crisis for saudi arabia the fact that they have come to terms with the fact that our friend. has been killed at the saudi consulate . in istanbul although they say. during a struggle whatever that struggle means when a killing squad fifteen people attacked one person i wouldn't call that a struggle or a fight that was an attempt to assassinate him to start with but at any rate you know it's good that the saudi government is. finally accepting the facts but i would say i would take the steps essentially as

a first step in the right direction but i wouldn't say this is a sub sufficient investigation they themselves official statement by the palace said that the preliminary investigation proves that so this is preliminary it's a first step in many steps to come they have dismissed some key. officials from the palace including two prominent advisors to the crown prince. and some man that so delicate funny his alter ego. and who has the title of minister a cabinet member level in the palace and also a you know the lieutenant. of the lies here you know and to many people worldwide used to be the spokesman for the military cooperation in yemen. these two people apparently have had a direct role in the as a nation and that's why they were dismissed in addition the saudi government announced that eighteen people are under arrest right now. and being investigated

so the investigation is continuing and we hope that steps serious steps will be taken my main concern is the announcement by the royal palace of the formation of this ministerial committee to basically restructure the general intelligence services which. basically has been up to its. neck and then this crisis several of its key people have been caught as participants. in this assassination and. restructuring especially by a committee headed by mohamed been some is essentially putting the fox in charge of the house i don't think that would be acceptable globally and you are you you were a friend of jamal khashoggi you have obviously been following this story very

closely and we have heard some very tragic and well gruesome details emerging from these audio recordings about what took place when he went in cite the saudi calls he let in istanbul the public explanation we've had from the saudis and i know that you say it's plenary it's the fust step but nonetheless they all suggesting that a fight broke out inside the consulate so the implication that that the killing was rather more spontaneous as opposed to being a premeditated all planned operation. i think it was frankly i mean you're not going to hear this from the president of the united states or from the secretary of state but i have information that mr even though he denies it has been shown at least a short excerpt from a videotape not just or you videotape that government has in its possession showing

exactly what happened and was attacked if you will by this assassination squad immediately or within minutes after he came into the council general's office to pick up his divorce papers and. to the point where the tapes shows the the consul general is telling this gang of criminals to please don't do it in my office you're going to get me in trouble and so they moved to the conference room next door and proceeded to cut him up to pieces and behead him so. you know clearly the investigation is at a preliminary stage the saudi's cannot simply by taking these initial steps who are the need for probably an independent international. committee of investigation most probably through the united nations in order to bring out all

the facts. involved all relevant to this case. right and that is the most important thing now and as far as we know those facts and those details are in the hands of the of played a very interesting role throughout this case we have seen a sort of pattern emerging in the nature of those leaks. being in their frustration at the saudis inability to come up with an explanation because we've not heard anything from the saudis officially so far have sort of this information as a way of exerting pressure on the saudis i suppose the question is what ankara might do now if we might see more information emerge about what took place that contradicts the saudi explanation or if we might finally see the evidence that is in that position being properly published. my understanding thus far is that there is some maybe minimal. some cooperation between

the turkish and the saudi authorities i hope that that would increase to convince the saudis of the seriousness of this crime also critical frankly of the conduct of the investigators in turkey in the sense that we hadn't heard until just the past two days from the public prosecutor in. or in istanbul and we should have heard from him from day one we didn't need political statements by political leaders we didn't need leaks to the media we didn't need. employees of turkish intelligence agencies leaking information we needed all that stuff to come through legal jargon. from a legal source from the prosecutor's office the same i would say for the saudis i

mean you know they have misled their people and i feel sorry for frankly for the saudi people. people that i consider you know friends of mine known saudis for the past thirty five years through my work i frequented the kingdom many times. and to see and it was a shame to see that people misled for two weeks until today we get the public prosecutor to issue or participate in an investigation and issue this partial statement i don't know how the saudis the saudi authorities are going now to convince twenty five or so whatever the population of saudi arabia after sending him on this hysterical then jentzsch oh conspiracy theory how are they go going to convince them that actually they announced today that jump is dead even though they raised some like i said. questions about the way this crime actually. they still

haven't confessed to the whole thing but also the address that mean they or their people an explanation of all these people that the high ranking people it's the equivalent of us think that the people and the f.b.i. or the cia in this country could you imagine that happening in washington and no explanation from the government as to what the deal is about. you know you'll sitting there in washington and i just briefly on the explanation that we've had so far is that going to be enough to satisfy the concerns of of well senators there in the u.s. but also the international community at large. i think some people have already made up their minds look these are not normal people that they have more information at their disposal than you and i do they have some intelligence. the problem was and i did raise that on a just you know many times this past week as to you know what happened to the intelligence cia intelligence through cooperation with turkish intelligence and

saudi intelligence and what have you that was conveyed to the president i mean we haven't heard or the vice president for that matter we heard only pieces and bits and they they don't seem to have taken all that information seriously and in a timely fashion members of congress yes they have been vocal some of them have been very mad on a bipartisan basis not only democrats who have in the past been very critical of particularly the conduct of the war in yemen by saudi arabia but now they have this issue that both republicans and democrats. basically in support of and that's what caused this pressure on the administration in washington on president trump personally and forced him to change his position right now all of a sudden the president that kept a love affair with the crown prince of saudi arabia over the past few weeks

articulately the past two weeks all of us and today he said i don't know if i even know this man what happened in between you know so apparently they are seeing more and more evidence and that tends to explain the statements we are hearing from everybody concerned although many of these statements are too little too late all right wolf for now thank you very much senator joins us live. and. there is a stand bull we have now from the saudis confirmation that jamal khashoggi died inside the consulate that how might this what is takis next move now how might it affect the investigation lots of questions well the text be asking. well moon actually i'm in car and our other colleagues have been following the news from istanbul and i have been taking the pulse from the turkish politicians and

officials since the beginning of this case but of course the case is getting the cases reaching to a very interesting point because at first the saudis denied that she was inside the consulate building he they said he exited and turkey turkey was insisting that he was there you were he disappeared inside the building and the latest evidence is collected by the prosecutor's office prove that. the blood sample six of the seven samples evidence samples match with. g.'s so these are important details but sometimes as our guest criticize why the prosecutor's office haven't given a statement it was because of the investigation but of course now we have to ask the turkish officials are going to ask very is the body where is america shipped his body if you say he's dead various about if if we find a body the prosecutors are able to finish the investigation and file an indictment

and everything will be on tracks after that but after admitting that he is that they have to tell where his body is now all right for now thank you very much joining us there from an crow going to hear more from c.n.n. and our other guests at the top of the next hour the news continues but just a quick reminder of our breaking news story this hour the first public explanation emerging from saudi arabia on the disappearance and the killing of journalist jamal khashoggi saudi saying that the new yours out of investigations show that he died inside the saudi consulate in istanbul after a fight with the people he met there that is what state media is reporting the investigations are still underway they say eighteen saudi nationals. have been arrested and actually just say as we just getting. here from republican u.s. senator lindsey graham saying to say that i'm skeptical of the new saudi narrative

about mystical is an understatement perhaps a sense there of the reaction that might emerge from washington in the coming hours the news continues here on al-jazeera very shortly stay with us. for. on behalf of her majesty's government i apologize reservedly

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were treating crush of his disappearance as a murder investigation. with detailed coverage the area here was the preschool people thought it would be a safe place to run to for the ground beneath them turned to mud and swallowed them up from around the world the local government has been trying to clean up their real life but the more humane the more dangerous to the cons to both leave around it. this is al jazeera. and i'm richelle carey this is the news hour live from doha coming up in the next sixty minutes may bring you breaking news saudi arabia has finally confirmed that missing child. he was killed and its consulate. a top saudi intelligence

official has been sacked along with a royal court advisor while eighteen others are under arrest in the kingdom in the investigation. we're going to make you pretty quickly but i will have congress involved which and speaking earlier u.s. president said that congress will help decide on action if saudi arabia culpable in the case. and the saudi crown prince gives the saudi king rather gives the crown prince muhammad months on the job of supervising a restructuring of the country's intelligence services. saudi arabia has confirmed for the first time they have admitted the journalist was killed in the saudi consulate in istanbul so what riyadh is saying now what they are claiming is there was a brawl in the building and he died during that fight also two top saudi

officials have been fired one of them is the senior intelligence officer siri he is an advisor to the saudi crown prince muhammad and solomon he was also a spokesman of the saudi led coalition and yet so you have likely seen his face before the second senior figure fired as sod all qahtani who was an advisor to the royal court saudi arabia's also saying eighteen people are under arrest in this investigation so a lot of moving parts right now so we have correspondents in turkey and the u.s. monitoring the latest developments patty kohei is in washington d.c. simplicio lu is in ankara first let's go to andrew symonds who is in front of the saudi consulate in istanbul where all of this happened so andrew what are the headlines right now. well there were many of them very dramatic in events indeed first says take them chronologically first we heard of

a telephone conversation between king selma and president of turkey and the state's turkey news agency said they had discussed cooperation about their independent investigations then within seconds or a couple of minutes a saudi state t.v. announced that siri. el al siri a general syrian who's a key figure in the security operates us all of the royal household with the teligent brief and also a brief to be spokesman for the saudi emirates he led coalition in the war in yemen was filed he was sent along with advisor to the saudi state t.v. and you've already mentioned the eighteen people under investigation then we hear an apology effectively apology perhaps but but the sorrow of the state of

saudi for that death all of. which which was will quite extraordinary really when you consider the run of events because we then hear that the entire intelligence agency in saudi is to be restructured and who should be leading that restructuring but mohamed bin sound man so this is really quite extraordinary but the key point is the explanation from the pergamon require he what there was a fight in the consulate october the second according to this explanation and that fight that led to the death of all of the cutchogue ji in the building now it does seem implausible at first hearing because the turks up. said the direct opposite of that that they have evidence they've said through all sources that the arrival of this fifteen member hit squad as they described it getting into the building ahead

of a rival minutes ahead of it and then the audiotape according to all sources suggests the that he went in there and within minutes he was being attacked by several members of this fifteen strong party and. not wishing to be too gruesome these audiotapes reveal apparently that he had his fingers cut off or that he was beaten and that he died he screamed as he died and then they went about dismembering his body with a bone sore at one point some stuff would tossed to actually pack away the body parts now the intelligence operation here the security operation went into full gear within a couple of hours of learning that this sequence of events had happened it was in fact according to most sources it was actually his fiance. say who was

waiting just over here waiting for her husband to come out of the building she foden eight and i made to the president urged wow and then the sequence of events went into place with undercover intelligence officers a whole range of actions to try and determine where all of these fifteen members of the hit squad would any given time and a race to the airport with undercover people involved of officers involved actually searching one of the private jets so coming back to the main point this announcement across all state media that there has to be a complete root and branch reform of their entire intelligence agency headed by mohamed bin hammam does suggest that this could be some sort of explanation for

an accident that they were a rogue element within the intelligence services but it does at first sight seem to those who are observing it as being implausible i'm sure you'll hear later from our correspondent so patty cole hayden in d.c. but lindsey graham republican. senator has already tweeted i just seen it. he says that to say that i am skeptical of the new saudi narrative is an understatement now this is a key figure an influential figure who may well have influence president trying to change his whole tone about the situation and say that he believes that he is dead. set sanctions might be possible it really put the he told the situation and what evidence his kicks saddam out is in the driving seat he's making all wish calling all the shots right now but the suggestion is seems to be that

muhammad bin solomon is in control still needs in charge of reforming the intelligence agency and of course is there evidence to suggest that he was directly involved one might think so but possible only possible that this that they could get away with it now coming back to the investigation the latest we have on that is that it's being described by the justice ministry as very successful and going in the right direction ok rashid mansour salman's live for us with the developments out of istanbul let's go to see who joins us now from ankara so this story that we're hearing now cinema is all coming from saudi arabia has there been any type of confirmation of this somewhat employers of all story coming out of turkey. well her richelle it's it's after midnight all we know is just king so mom called

president are gone and they had a talk about damascus yuki's investigation case and just a couple of minutes later then we heard that the saudi government dismissed. the so-called suspects of the. case until now there is no statement by any turkish official because of the hour actually but of course this is very interesting and probably we will be hearing this in the morning from every segments of the society and politicians that saudis had a sharp turn in their narrative because they have been denying that jim out of the shooting disappeared inside this way. and they have denied that he was killed here it was that he was died there and also for the sake of the prosecution the investigation foyle the only thing missing was the body of jamal for shooting in order to close this file and file an indictment to go on with the judiciary process

now probably turkey is going to ask ok you are admitting that damascus she died doing a role inside the consulate but sure was where the bodies and they find the bodies then it's going to it's going again to again another level in the judicial process of course but on the other hand this is this is an important question that all of us and all the politicians should ask because now we are reading from the why is from the agencies that is saudi king the third to mohamed bin so man to form and leave intelligence structure also he's in charge of pushing his investigation file which is unbelievable actually in the morning will be giving turkish politicians asking a lot of questions about this because as turkish president have stated since the beginning and the foreign ministry has been is stating since the beginning turkey is. now if they're doing real perpetrator of this attack actually who gave the

order because one of the eighty's of mohammed been sent him on a cot you say that it was his which you recount is just an employee you takes the orders from the crown prince and who implements so now is the question how to get away with murder and at this point yes the story is completely changed which would mean that the saudis basically were lying to the turks and to the investigators. well yes and according to the latest thing that i received right now the legal side the judicial side of the investigation is going to keep on in turkey so turkey is going to continue conducting belittle side of this investigation because turkey has been saying that is saudi arabia has been trying to spoil the evidences and one of the latest example of the spoliation is that i have i have listened from

a very high level turkish official tonight that they have a footage gathered by december rounding c.c. cameras two hours after jamal entrance inside the consulate building a celta official gets out of the consulate building with gym. clothes on and they have been stating that the cameras inside the consulate was not able to record it was it didn't if you have a hard drive and probably also the turkish officials yes can you say that again i think that's a shocking detail that is new for our viewers say that again about what you have heard that was seen on this video. from a very hard i level turkish official i listened to night that on the bridge i'm outta shuji disappeared two hours after his entrance inside the saudi general

consulate building in istanbul a gentleman a saudi men exited the building with jamal has shoot clothes on and saudi officials have been saying that our cameras inside to conflate are not able to record anything so we can't show you anything and this footage was gathered were at was actually changed from the security cameras in the surrounding buildings this is what the high level turkish official told me and they told me he told me that after turkey said is said that we have this footage to the saudi officials then they let turkish officials do an investigation do a search inside the consulate so since the beginning the saudis have been trying to spoil the evidence since now they have to show the evidence they have to show where jamal because your kid's body is so that the turkish prosecutor's office can continue with the investigation and file an indictment and this can be.