all is running an independent investigation despite another investigation is underway in saudi arabia at the sources that i have spoken after to saudi and now spent they say that they will be continuing chasing after this and they will not stop until they find a body of jamal khashoggi because his body it would be the key indicator of this inquiry in order to file an indictment and to carry out this case to a higher level and international level of course now everybody's curious whether mohamed in somalia will be able to get away this. relationship with the with the men he has dismissed dismissed but until now the saudi rhetorical was based on denying his disappearance but the leaked information by the official sources say that even after two hours after jamal who shoot threes entrance inside the consulate a saudi official went out with close of tomorrow. and this video was

provided by the c.c. cameras in the surrounding buildings according to the high level turkish official i have spoken so there is no way out for saudi arabia but now they have to show up for jamal his body is buried or kept it will be the key indicator of course now his family is upset we have been speaking to his close friends who have been following who have been the defender of his case since the beginning it took to shore up media platform and they acknowledged to us that they will be f. in a role in istanbul within one or two days depending on the developments also there will be a come aeration in the united states and in the funeral in istanbul many journalists and politicians around the world are expected along with jamal family but now of course the question is whether mr mohamed bin sun mom will be able to get away with

the slings or not. let's go now to patty calling joins us live from washington d.c. and patty the u.s. president been rather quick to acknowledge what he sees as the credibility of the saudis statement he called it a good first step he says they want to hear more there's other investigations he said i want to talk to the crown prince again but basically was willing to give it the benefit of the doubt that is the exact opposite reaction we're hearing from politicians on capitol hill members of congress quickly taking to twitter to condemn this story from saudi arabia saying it's implausible it's absurd on its face that they shouldn't believe the saudi story now since it's been changing so much over time that the president though fred and donald trump it has been from the beginning all about trade deals he likes to talk about how he went to saudi arabia he brokered the deal everybody wanted to put the u.s. got it it was one hundred ten billion dollars today he's inflated that number to four hundred fifty billion dollars worth of things ordered i can tell you that if

you asked the white house what exactly are those things that have been ordered they will not point you to anything that even though it comes close to evidence in fact most outside experts say saudi arabia has spent a fraction of that the american made weapons and goods still the president says he doesn't want to see those deals go out the window and he did he did seem like he was not even the slightest bit skeptical of the story that saudi arabia put out on a friday evening which is tends to be when people put out stories in america they don't want to get a lot of attention here's what the president had to say about that said he would be as good a great ally but what happened is not acceptable we are going to see they. get listed just for the people at the table a large number of people having to do with the event that took place in turkey in the county of the city council and. it's a big first step totally first step but it's a big first if you consider there's i do i do i mean it's again it's early we

haven't finished our review or investigation but it's. i think it's a very important first step and it happened sooner than people thought it would happen and the notion that. it was open. well i don't know that that was i don't know that the signature of that was that's a theory that's being thrown out of they're going to but he said that but. they're saying there was a fight but that's a theory that was put out but they're going to be giving us a full report but they have arrested a large number of people and could first step. even be. terrifying to you or you know i don't think so because they say they weren't out front with me in terms of you know what happened this is really you just got this report from them and you got it all a lot of other people. i think that. we'll be talking to them we'll see what

happens we may have some questions we do have some questions and as i told you if you work into this with congress. well you've highlighted for us patty that the gulf between the trumpet ministration all gone from and congress is it likely that congress is going to try and push this further and force the hand of the on from. it does seem likely and the reason i say that is because there are about forty senators that sent a letter to the president invoking the magnitsky act that is law under u.s. law basically it sets in place a process the president has one hundred twenty days from the time they sent that letter to decide whether or not and report back or whether mr bashir g.'s a human rights were violated who was responsible if they were and then he is supposed to recommend sanctions now the president could choose to try to ignore that and then congress could take it up we've seen them do that in the past when the president chose not to say action rush over and election interference the

twenty sixteen campaign congress democrats republicans they overwhelmingly passed legislation to say to put the sanctions in place the president was forced to sign those because they had a veto proof majority there are very few politicians that are talking about this that aren't condemning saudi arabia and basically dismissing this story on its face as of tonight so this story although it may have seemed to have. pippi as the president slightly if anything it seems to have only angered the politicians on capitol hill that much more so i think the white house calculus is the longer this goes through this longer this is delayed the less likely it is that congress is going to intervene but they're talking not just about sanctioning those involved possibly people high up in the royal family there's a growing talk in capitol on capitol hill that it's time for the u.s. military to stop its supplying basically refueling missions and targeting information in the war in yemen which would have significant consequences on that conflict so it seems right now as things stand it's going to be the president the

united states versus even members of his own party on capitol hill who would sort of measure broadly speaking is congress pushing for other than you know the one you mentioned about stopping cooperation of the war in yemen. well they can do any number of things they can basically take people's property saudi citizens property and valuables that are in the united states they freeze those assets they could say action then they could cut off arms deals and actually that seems the most likely thing because it doesn't even have to be official although there have been moves in the past to make it actual legislation the way the rules in the u.s. senate work is if a senator simply is no d.o.d. notifies department fence notifies the senate hey we'd like to do this ourselves the state department weighs in at a member of the senate can simply say nope not going to happen and we've already heard from at least two senators that say they're going to do that about future notifications their talk right now though is about current munitions and things that are in the pipeline that we're talking that senators are saying they'd like to

see basically put an end of those contracts i think from washington d.c. from the washington post says was no one's enemy and that all the journalist was trying to do is sponsor open debate about important issues here's what we know jamal walked into that consulate on october second and he didn't want. the saudis know what happened. so the idea that we need days and days of investigation. forensic we're it's ridiculous just tell us what happened and. in my opinion you know united states government that was committed to the values that we should be standing up for would be saying that we wouldn't be sending people over. smile next to the crown prince. we wouldn't. be raising ridiculous firies about road operators we would be saying we need the facts we need

them yesterday and then we can figure out what the right policy and all this is how saudi state media and now she's deaf. the first investigation by prosecutors regarding the disappearance of saudi citizen jamal khashoggi shows a discussion between him and the people he met while he was at the saudi consulate in istanbul led to an argument and a quarrel. which caused his death prosecutors announced that the investigation regarding this case is still ongoing with the arrest of eighteen saudi nationals in order to reveal what took place for the public and punish those responsible in this case and take them to justice. is the executive director of the arab center of washington it was john friend and says saudi arabia's explanation doesn't

add up. that doesn't make sense. it's just mind boggling that after all this preparation and revisiting the issue that they will come up with a story like that. there are tapes frankly and i hope that turkish government soon would release those tapes and they are both you know and video even though that night the existence of that video at least one of the agencies in turkey does have that and has shared only a small segment of it with u.s. counterparts just the last twenty four hours that video shows exactly what happened was entered the building he met for a few minutes with the consul general to discuss his papers that he needed and he was immediately attacked by this gang of killers that were sent specifically to stumble to to actually liquidate him it wasn't an accidental death it wasn't

a fist fight to the point where the consul general on tape is allegedly screaming please do not do it here you are getting me in trouble end of quote the intelligence community has been the leading institution involved in this crime. firing of the five top leaders. of that institution is justified but i'm sure they need to be investigated and they need to be restructured. they shouldn't be engaging in a crime of this crime of this magnitude however to put them how mad pencil man in charge i mean dentists like you know what in the fox in charge of the hen house it is unacceptable morally it is unacceptable legally i believe and i agree with human rights organizations worldwide that call today for a transparent independent open and the. to get into this crime

preferably by a united nations agency and to go after the perpetrators of course you know even the saudis admit that they have eighteen people in custody that's fifteen plus they have more apparently they need to pursue this matter seriously because frankly this has become an existential conflict for the kingdom of saudi arabia. jeff stacy is a former state department official who served in the obama administration joins us by skype from woodstock virginia good to have you with us so this latest saudi and narrative on what happened to jamal khashoggi will end the international outrage do you think i'm afraid it will not accept the international community by any means the governments across the west the exception of the west that course the u.s. government was not really seen or did it is the fact that certain destruction and

set out or she were this story out together or i was going to be actually my next question it does seem like there is a desire at least from donald trump to resolve this you know to what extent has there been some coordination between the u.s. and saudi arabia to try and resolve this issue with this sort of statement. well in fact secretary of state pompei was not sent to get an explanation he was sent to get the story straight between both governments that's what was accomplished effective the big three to come up with this possible tonight ability stewarding which if we think about it if we put ourselves in the position of the saudis given what has happened this is the best that they could of work as least bad alternative of a whole variety of bad alternatives so this is what they found themselves with no choice

but to now admit to of course it's not it's a story of course it's a naturist but in terms of stagecraft in terms of the special relationship between these two countries this is what we expect what does that leave then the possibility of any sanctions or measures against saudi arabia. well what we can expect is that congress will not be pleased if they continue to criticize and they will see if they can muster a veto proof majority to bring about sanctions and more serious maybe it's the act that was also sectors really put into play and we'll have to see what the explanation for this will be as well but for the meantime one of the messages no doubt the pompei zero sense was there will be some small same actions you will need to be ready for that and react and no doubt they are what about the turkish

position i mean they apparently were leaking information to put pressure on the u.s. to put pressure on saudi arabia if the u.s. and saudi arabia as you say. coming to some common on the standing on how to resolve this issue what about the turks will they accept that. well they probably won't but it's you have to really understand the position that turkey to sit here on the one hand well both the u.s. and saudi arabia look less well because of this turkey looks better turkey is at the same time restore its relationship with the u.s. a little bit they released brunson the american pastor that maybe several other positive news including in syria and some of the turks are probably going to continue to provide a little more detail to help the international media lash out the full story on this which will not be to the full satisfaction of either the u.s. or saudi governments so they are also in

a precarious situation they need not to piss off the saudis too much or the americans too much but they are doing pretty effectively right now by leaking steadily to the media and maintaining at least a modicum of relations with both sides so you think that the tugs for example will go ahead and release any recordings tapes they may have of what happened to jamal how shoji you know it's sort of disrupts the saudi narrative the latest saudi narrative i should say that it is possible that they probably won't disrupt too much if you think about it's what has been admitted to there is a lead weight in there for some of these additional details that it's possible that the turks may give me quickly that with of the u.s. and the saudis as well this is high state craft we're now in you know watching happen before our eyes and ears and so we might actually see the turks

courtney the rest of their lease with these two governments but that bit i'm less clear eyed about i'm out on a dinner edge there all right jeff stacey there thanks so much. the united nations secretary general antonio ted has released a statement about the new details that have emerged he says he's deeply troubled by the confirmation of her death and extends his condolences to his family and friends he stresses the need for a prompt far and transparent investigation into the circumstances of which of g.'s death and full accountability for those responsible. barfi is a research fellow at the new america foundation he joins us by skype from detroit good to have you with us first of all how do you think this is going to impact mohamed bin salmond standing and power within saudi arabia. we're seeing the first

steps and revelations tonight keep it. man is going to share the committee that's one reorganized intelligence community organizations in saudi arabia which means that there are no repercussions at this point for his potential role in this episode. might that change if the if this further pressure from the turks of the americans were to mention pressure is going to come from congress we've heard people like senator lindsey graham's saying you have no relationship whatsoever with mom and then some on he has to go he's toxic if this is a snowball effect in the congress then the united states will have a trigger of white house and trump will have no choice but to follow through and to pressure the saudis to relieve our mom been some on. his post but what do the findings nevermind of senior figure figures in saudi arabia's establishment

intelligence figures like colossi of the royal court advisor like danny what impact is that going to have on the saudis. well a series of very interesting the public face of the war against in yemen. he there's a lot of backlash against him in the international community because of this role however what we need to look at in the long term is these people are being relieved of their posts right now will they return to power when the story shifts to something else in the news so that something there to look forward to in the future the saudi official narrative is that this is still being further investigated does that indicate that they're leaving the window open to take further steps depending on how the international pressure continues to build on not going forward the salaries of bosses from day one they first said that. the consulate but there would

they weren't women going to give their release any video to that effect now they're saying that he died in a fight in the consulate when we know that certain officials were brought in fifteen people came in on two planes and in addition to among which was a chief coroner our medical examiner why would this man be brought in if there was no plan to to kill in the consulates and a lot of on answer questions you know a lot of confusion and the saudis really do not have a lot of experience with these type of diplomatic and intelligence initiatives so there's likely to be more gaffes moving forward on their part a lot of question marks also left about things like who the eighteen people all that have been apparently linked in the saudi investigation. to hostile g.'s death how far up the chain of command all of them why was a bone sole brought by one of them. to stumble according to the turkish

investigation and so on right. well what's very unique in these in these searches issue ations is and especially if you study their world people do not make decisions on their own initiatives a captain in the field cannot fire on the golan heights could not fire artillery or into israel those decisions come only from damascus so the same thing here in saudi arabia a decision to kill a dissident in a consulate can only be made at the highest level no mid-level saudi official would take that initiatives upon himself so that's something that we're going to have to find out where the smoking gun we who made this decision or who carried out we know the names of these eighteen people are coming out. it's coming over now that the deputy head of the intelligence services has been relieved of his post as well so we'll get more information about who these people are in the coming hours not in

the coming days but just in the coming hours thanks so much for your analysis on that and the love of danny there all called advisor is among one of the five people who's been sacked in a previous tweet here outlined how he saw his role quote do you think i do anything on my own i'm just an employee and carrying out orders from the king and the crown prince karen greenberg is director of the center on national security at fordham university school of law she says saudi arabia's explanation of what happened jean is insulting. they knew they had to come up with a story and this is what they think is the best story for their purposes that they can come up with and i think the response to that has to be whether it's from the white house or from the media or from the expert community is that that's not good enough the story the flies have to meet

a with the facts and be has to be part of an investigation the more than the person accused of leading this effort and this murder is it has to be an investigation by somebody other than him and his forces and so if it's at the very least insufficient but it's also insulting it's really a question of saying what you saw what you heard what billy the few facts that we do know you can push those aside because here is our story and worst ticking to it and i think if it is in a word insulting this story could have gone and maybe could still go to different ways one would be a consolidation of mohamed bin selma and power within the kingdom another way it could have gone was to be the straw that broke the camel's back so to speak and there could have been other forces inside saudi arabia perhaps that could have gotten the king to maybe push aside his son because this really is

unacceptable around the world so that's two ways it could have gone today's news make it really think that the king is not going to push back against mohammed in selma and and that's really quite a problem there are many inside. the united states there are many around the world who would have thought differently about the king and what he might have done given the fact that they were prevented this is a brutal horrifying pointed assassination of a journalist who had strong ties to the west and who was a resident of the united states so you know each one of the. botha's enough itself is a line that you wouldn't have expected. the king to have allowed be across so we don't know exactly what kind of mental capacity you have right now but this is surprising and it could have gone the other way but it doesn't look like it's going that way therefore to your question what should the world and not

a state do and i think it's going to have to be more than just the united states at this point is demanding investigation how they're going to do that i don't know but in the end of investigation that is not done by the intelligence service or the leadership of the kingdom has polls for a minute and remind you jim out of a job she was so severe it takes a lot by his life and career. for more than thirty years jamal khashoggi enjoyed a privileged position within the saudi royal circle in large part echoing the kingdom's views but also taking risks operating from within to push the boundaries when it came to reform that risk taking would eventually draw the anger of the kingdom's heir apparent. the one time insider crossing the red line hits so skillfully tried in the past daring to criticize the crown prince mohammed bin salma i still see him as a reformer but he is gathering all poet within his hand and it would be much better

for him to allow a bidding space for a critic for saudi intellectuals for the right to sort of the media to debate the most important needed transformation going in the country. past wasn't without controversy an advisor to saudi intelligence chief turki al-faisal helping saudi intelligence in afghanistan alongside the much i had seen on osama bin laden an advocate of political islam through the muslim brotherhood but he also championed reforms even praised the crown prince for enacting them but last year he went into self-imposed exile in the united states for comments that angered the saudi leader . seen here with the missing journalist last year has known and worked with the shoji for at least thirty years he was not necessarily a dissident i disagree with that description he was a loyal saudi citizen he had his own vision of what the country should be doing

that type of freedom needs the type of reform it needs and maybe in the final analysis that's what got him in trouble. jamal khashoggi hasn't been seen for two weeks in that time the world's attention has turned to the activities of the kingdom and more broadly the arab world that has questioned all their governments virtually do anything they want with there their citizens. put them in jail they deny them work sometimes you think you are going to citizenship of that process of widespread continuing deep or talk or see abuse of power across the arab world is not addressed the fisherman who judge you will be doubly tragic. a saudi journalist with a platform a columnist for the washington post regular spots in u.s. and international t.v. channels almost two million followers on twitter that someone so high profile could vanish without a trace is shocking it will also have

a chilling effect on those who wish to follow his example dorsett jabari al-jazeera among the medea is a saudi activist based in seattle washington she hopes the global outcry over g.'s death will make a difference i think a lot of activists especially abroad feel this sense of urgency and responsibility to for voice their opinions about what's going on back home. as you know many of the activists who are speaking out were arrested and detained and their voices have been silent so it's up to us living abroad to actually bring their voices back to the stage and use this platform to voice our concerns for their safety and the safety of others as well i am truly hopeful i am i am hopeful of this by president trumps remarks and all of that i am very hopeful that you know at least the outrage the outcry the global outcry will make

a difference overall and the status of human rights in saudi arabia if not for anything just the fact that these voices are heard and the world is now watching i think it makes a huge difference. spring is some other news now the taliban have attacked a district in the north to hard province in afghanistan as soon as polls open for parliamentary elections there in the southern province of kandahar voters will have to wait an extra week to cast their ballots that follows an attack in the region that killed two senior officials on thursday it happened at a meeting between the most senior u.s. military officers in the country and afghan commanders on the death police chief general of the razak the taliban has claimed responsibility and is vying to derail the election and target anyone who votes it's a crucial poll because saturday's election has already been delayed for three years

due to security concerns and voter registration reforms let's go live now to charlotte burns who joins us from kabul so with having said that how is turnout looking. opposed just opened at seven o'clock this morning president danny was the first person to voters then gave a national address he thanked security forces for all their work for protecting the voting materials for being out here today when it is. it is just frankly dangerous because the taliban has to have threatened to attack a lot of these polling sites danny said though that voting is the juicy of all afghans and he wants to create create a sense of confidence to push that turn up push that turn up up the taliban those are very active this morning so there's already been an attack in dusty college district which is a northern to car province to car province is unstable last week we had

a big tech there in an election rally an explosives laden motorbike blew up and killed twenty two people wounded thirty two more so that is an insecure district although in the last even just a few minutes we've had a myriad of tweets from the taliban spokesperson claiming a host of attacks on polling sites in a number of districts but we cannot confirm any of the him they also have been putting out statements this one was the latest one used today saying we're going to close roads to try to stop people from moving around and being able to vote as they're really doing everything in their power to try to keep people away from polling seem to think kind of fear mongering among potential voter says those you million people in afghanistan nine million have registered to vote how many of those people will actually turn out today. it's kind of the system and of who they believe do they believe the taliban is strong enough and will be able to tech these polling sites or do they believe afghan and nato forces to protect them there were

some grumblings about the electoral process demands for reform where does that have those sorts of issues be resolved now. they've tried to be flexible with i've tried to a debt to solve any kind of problems or concerns that people have for example there was a lot of concern about version four that was a big problem last time so the opposition party said we want biometric machines ghani signori then about two weeks ago our biometric machines all of a sudden popped up came from germany and have been distributed across the country last minute newspaper ads going out every week trying to all this week trying to explain to people how to actually use them so they're trying to kind of snuff out all these concerns so that when the elections are over people don't say that people don't challenge them and they still feel credible when they say well we did bring those by image machines and and they did create another layer to stop voter fraud

and just follow on putting into context how crucial are these elections and move election with a good turnout to the future stability of the country and through the government this is d. day this is the exam if you will for the f gang government it's been sixteen years since the u.s. invaded here bringing democracy with them they have pumped billions into afghanistan to try to create a democracy here create credible elections these parliamentary elections that we're seeing here today are still three years to late so the international community needs to see these be successful because of the amount of money and resources they plugged into afghanistan and afghan government needs to be able to provide this for the people otherwise people are saying what does this mean for. charlotte burst from kabul a train traveling at high speed in the indian state of punjab plowed into a.