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i'm not going to. a little. bit right now we can go live to assemble in turkey of course and speak to our correspondent there charles stratford he's outside the saudi consulate where of calls this incident occurred and charles i'm just wondering exactly what do you make of the turkish reaction to the saudi account of what happened to mr because shelby because they haven't exactly explicitly ruled it out that they've not called it a fable as the washington post has and and but they haven't actually committed one way or another. well that's right i mean turkey is saying that it will reveal all the information over this case let's not forget that the turkish investigation goes on to
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conducting its own investigation suddenly the evidence so far that has been leaked to the world's media from to his government sources and people in the prosecutor's office is very strong we've seen. the c.c.t.v. footage of what's considered to be the person who's considered to have let this operation this man may have more trip going inside the consulate on the day that the show she disappeared and leaving it on and leaving in the airport only a few hours later we've had coding to this already a record in the he says it says it has and transcripts of that audio recording that have been leaked to the media that's to say in that cause shows he was attacked and killed almost immediately on entering the building they talk about him having been told should and having been dismembered we also know that the turks say all the shipping questioning workers within who are working inside the consulate in the
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last couple of days we understand at least twenty workers some of them foreign workers have also been questioned witnesses there interestingly the american media was reporting some of the new york times reporting that according to a saudi official who wasn't named said the official had said that. there may well be quite a lot of focus on the driver in this investigation the cause was drive because the the body all. was handled handed to what was described as a collaborator and that's why the saudis don't know where this body is the leader all of the cuban human the human rights chief for the a k policy he's leading caught see said earlier today that saudi arabia was fullest to make this statement because of these leaks that were dripping out to the media and she said that these leaks would continue so that's possibly an insight that obviously has got
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a lot more information. and as i say the government to says that he will in jew kohls reveal all but as we've heard there from patsy and around the world world leaders not buying this saudi narrative and let's not forget how much it's changed in recent days to go from baseless lies out of gay sions of being killed in the cause that is baseless lies to them now admitting that he indeed was killed in what they say was a fist fight. is a massive turnaround and i think certainly the most powerful quote from a over the last twenty four hours by the democratic senate jack reed you said you don't bring fifteen men and the bones will to a fist fight with a sixty year old so you know we are expecting to hear more information from the
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government saying they will reveal all once their investigation once this joint investigation is over towns have had tonight an example thank you. right now we can speak to rami who are use a journalism professor at the american university of beirut he's also a senior fellow at harvard kennedy school and he's joining us live now from boston thanks for talking to us i was just thinking rami that this whole affair has got the feel of an intricate dance involving three players none of whom want to tread on each other's toes what do you think turkey is. what does turkey want out of this particular situation we've got a disastrous disaster to be managed but turkey is choosing to to use this drip drip approach to releasing information rather than just being transparent and having it all out in the open. turkey is using this approach
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mainly for its relationship with saudi arabia but the much bigger picture is that you have two major non. two major powers one of them non arab turkey the other arab saudi arabia who are contending in many ways for leadership of the region of the arab islamic region at least and some ways that iran is also trying to play a major role some people say hedging monaco and the israelis would like to have a major controlling interest and the whole region as well and what we're seeing is essentially the turks playing a much more sophisticated game of using the power they have which in this case is information evidence about this killing and they're using it to strengthen their position their negotiating position with the saudi arabians because they have many interests financial trade geopolitical regional alliances all
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kinds of interests in the region that they would like to to strengthen and the turks are also trying to strengthen their position vis a vis the united states where the relations have been kind of called for many reasons but lurking behind us you have the israelis and you have the iranians you have the russians the qataris play a small role the egyptians play a small role you have many powers small and medium power big powers vying for influence and pushing their own self self interest so this is going to go on for quite a while what you're seeing in fact is the first significant regional contest station after the end of the cold war and one nine hundred ninety or so twenty five years ago twenty eight years ago this is the first time you're seeing big regional powers openly contesting each other china each other and at the same time negotiating with each other is it fair to say in your opinion that. the saudi royal
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family has made a massive mistake and that's a mistake that is going to provide opportunities for other. well it's hard to say if it's the whole royal family because one of the things that's happened in the last three years is that how much been some has single handedly turned upside down the traditional process of consensus building among the royal family which includes a couple of dozen major figures and hundreds and hundreds of other princes and family members and the historically made decisions by consensus with the king at the top and now that's all changed all power is now in the hands of one hundred been sold and this incident is only the latest of string of half a dozen major domestic and regional moves that have totally backfired and flopped whether it's economics or the siege of cut out of the war in yemen the lebanese
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prime minister being kidnapped the internal reform issues that were grandiosely announced and most of them are being shelled so that the crown prince is not very good of policy making we don't know if he's making these decisions totally by himself or is he actually consulting with your family members behind the scenes so i don't think it's easier to say the royal family are i made a mess of this haven't been so man has made a mess of it and his father has let him do it so far right i'm sorry i'm just trying to get a sense as to the geopolitics because it seems to me very much is that it's going to be geopolitics that what's this affair out and in fact the that the terrible fate that has been handed out to jamal khashoggi will be lost in all of this what it what exactly do you think the turks want from saudi arabia in the immediate term in terms of trying to find trying to find some balance to all of this otherwise they could go for the nuclear option couldn't they release everything that they've
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got but they're not doing that. no they're not doing that because they are very sophisticated and they know how to do this much more efficiently than the saudis the saudis are not very good at statecraft we've seen the turks are much more nimble with this but this is not just a dance between two people you've got like i said they have the iranians the americans the russians other people in the background and there's many relationships for instance the situation in syria is one in which the russians the iranians the saudis the americans and the turks all to negotiate so what the turks want is to strengthen their negotiating position in these bilateral issues directly with the saudi arabians for instance they might want the saudi arabians to help bail them out and their economic problems they want they might want to have massive new trade agreements turkey is a serious industrial power and export or. the saudis import so many things and are
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able to make a massive. make massive assistance to the turkish economy so they've got those kinds of issues the turks would like to have a bigger say long term in syria they'd like to have saudi assistance to prevent the emergence of a kurdish independent state or seriously autonomous region and just generally the turks would like to affirm their interests in the region so that their national well being is protected as they define it but the turks are sophisticated enough to know that their well being can only be protected if the well being of other powers like the iranians the saudis the israelis and others are also protected so it's hard to say give a list of two or three things to say this is what the turks want the turks want a good bargain a position. and clearly identifiable assets to their well being that are
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constantly evolving because the regional situation is constantly evolving all right kareen thank you very much indeed thank you for bearing with me on that thanks hani . now the head of the turkish arab media says he ation and a friend of jamal khashoggi cold for justice for the journalist as well as for his family. i would like to say to the saudi king and crown prince they will not be able to cover up the murder of jamal khashoggi god will always punish those who have not played fair and killed other people innocent people don't necessarily even our beliefs do not allow the killing of each other this is not fair nobody can deny that this is murder. counting as began in afghanistan's parliamentary elections which was mobbed by a series of attacks on polling stations at least twenty eight people were killed
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a moment seventy others were wounded in the violence voting will continue on sunday in some parts of the country from the capital kabul. reports. it was a day by violence a suicide bomber blew himself up outside a polling station in kabul killing and injuring dozens of people it was one of several attacks in the afghan capital. there were the blast my friend on the ground blood was everywhere and there are many casualties but i don't know what happened next the but the attacks haven't deter people from casting their votes. and i act of defiance despite the growing threats and turns security situation this is the third parliamentary election since the fall of the taliban in two thousand and one people here in kabul showed up in the early hours at polling stations.
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i will vote for someone who would work for afghanistan and serve the nation we need patriots who care about the country these people that deserve to be elected to parliament but they would go is a must have to be i am exercising my democratic right. i want to choose the right person who will fight for my rights and the rights of women and women vote in large numbers their voices will be heard. extraordinary security measures were in place in the capital kabul the authorities are taking no chances ten candidates were killed during election campaigning. the president suspended the election in khandahar province after the taliban killed two top officials there on thursday election was also delayed in gaza the province following ethnic disputes. what happened in kandahar was a sad moment not only for the people of kandahar but for all of us the decision to suspend the election was taken in collaboration with different institutions of the
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state of also appointed a committee to investigate the problems we face in gaza this election was initially supposed to take place three years ago but was delayed because of a political impasse that has crippled the country the international community has been pushing for political reforms a clamp down on corruption and we conciliation this is not like you bitch in any country it's a very special election for the afghan people so i buy their courage. their will to choose their future. election officials are using biometric voter verification devices for the first time to prevent vote rigging but technical glitches slowed down the voting. the election has been extended for another day in some areas to allow maximum participation this election is only a first step in a long political process it will be followed by presidents elections in april
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that's when the afghan authorities will decide on pursuing political talks with the taliban and forming a national unity government moved back by the u.s. and others who insist there is no military solution to the afghan conflict. covered well omar samad is a former senior advisor to the chief executive of afghanistan and he says the voter turnout speaks volumes. they still believe that they want to control their destiny and that they want a system that works for them whereby they can vote and they can elect through their free will. either a member of parliament or in a few months a president i think that that is the most potent message that came out of today's election not only giving hope for the fact that the marcus is not dead the democracy has a lot of challenges in afghanistan and has to be reformed according to the but that it was
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a message to the enemy that despite what you do. the afghans will still have the courage to go to the polls and vote the system is not totally functional. resilience and they have shown that they stand by their game you know afghans also realize they are realistic that they have made progress over the last seventeen years and that they need to protect those gains and in order to do so including the right to vote including the right to express yourself freely. the right for women to participate in public life all of these all of these are gains that afghans do not want to give up on and they want to protect at any cost and they want their friends in international community to realize that they have to do what it takes in order to sustain them and support them and protecting those major achievements. give us a final say. streets demanding
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a second. coming up in sports another record for christianity right now dan will have the. hello once again we do still have flooding concerns for central parts of texas but the good news is the rain will gradually make its way away you can see that long line of cloud pushing all the way up into the northeastern corner through new england into eastern parts of canada for actually making its way further south was and east was clear skies do come back in behind to dallas around seventeen system a fair amount of talent more cloud will more down whether it will stand to push its way towards the far southeast of the country to the southwest as well right across the southern parts but hopefully not too much more rain coming on that at least in
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the short run and drive further west temperatures in l.a. at around twenty seven celsius seventeen that's san francisco and for seattle blue skies and plenty of sunshine please guys and sunshine for much of the great around tilly's at present just around the way woods striven to bake a little bit of wet weather just lurking here for the day showers fine advice for the most part it must be said well the more the way of wetter weather still pushing over towards panama towards costa rica the wetter weather will make this where little further northwards western parts of mexico just around the pacific coast could see some live fish as over the next couple of days this is what remains of tropical storm vincente. the cricket world isn't much exciting i mean you have to think why would he give me a go because then we'd be and burn him again it's the you know the big bang theory . al-jazeera is investigative unit reveals explosive new ad the documentary
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toughest take a look at the top stories here on the al-jazeera news hour u.s. president donald trump says he's not satisfied with saudi arabia's explanation of jamal khashoggi his death riyadh says the journalist died during a fight inside the saudi consulate in istanbul president trump insists that holding him now and still with saudi arabia would cost americans millions of jobs. but france germany the european union and the un all they're all calling for a credit will transparent and in-depth investigation into mr g.'s death. german foreign minister says there shouldn't be arms sales to riyadh before a complete inquiry. in afghanistan vote counting is underway in the first parliamentary elections for eight years there were
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a number of attacks on polling stations that left at least seventeen people dead and more than seventy wounded voting has now been extended for an extra day because of technical problems. the new york times has detailed a campaign by saudi arabia to identify and silence dissidents online according to the times twitter fired an employee they believe was spying on behalf of the saudis he was asked by intelligence operatives to access personal information of activists including ip addresses and phone numbers he since returned to saudi where he now works for the government but the kingdom also had a consulting firm track social media response to his economic reforms three users were identified as driving much of the negative response one was arrested another had family members imprisoned and a third account which was anonymous was shut down
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a saudi arabia has cracked down on activists on the crown prince mohammed bin sound man jailing women's rights campaigners and government critics well we can speak to jake williams now who's a cyber security expert and founder of rendition info second he's joining us via skype from all. in georgia thank you very much indeed for joining us does it surprise you these revelations that the new york times have published about saudi arabia's activity online in trying to silence people who are raising critical voices. it doesn't surprise me at all that they would try to identify those people or also spy on those folks doesn't surprise me at all either that they would try to get an insider who could provide them with more detailed information such as ip addresses or email addresses used to register the accounts stuff they could use a practiced people down in real life indeed and ledges the bad and of responsibility lie when it comes to twitter for instance having an employee on its books who is actually freelancing i'm not sure if it is free so not but looking for
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a government in which goes against all of the values that it being promulgated by the station media at the chiquita sure yet this is actually a really interesting case here in the us a lot of people don't really consider in the corporate in the corporate side competitive intelligence and how other nations states might try to influence their operations in particular even when that's considered usually they only think about some of the bigger players like russia or china and you know this this is a great case that shows that you know even saudi intelligence here isn't cool traded at least or didn't betray twitter in the past so you have to assume that their reach is a little bit larger so how would you compare what you've learned about the saudi government operation with that of russia. well it's interesting that they're running very similar you know very similar disinclination campaigns you know as
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well as obviously trying to track down the dissidents but i think that the saudi probably the saudi campaigns are a little bit less funded but i think it's a good note that you can do a lot particularly in social media you can do a lot with a little bit of expense absolutely but isn't to cyberspace the new front line in terms of international wolf pretty much i mean the chinese have been singled out haven't they by the americans quite recently full ping that hacking than the numbers of having attempts that they're making on u.s. companies yes certainly and and while i don't necessarily want to call the new frontier in warfare in general it is definitely something that you know we would expect to proceed any actual kinetic biting and oftentimes is being used as a proxy or what we would have ordinarily been or or may have been fifty years ago an actual armed conflict we're seeing cyberspace being used as
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a proxy for that jake williams good to to achieve thank you very much indeed thank you the u.s. president donald trump says he'll pull out of a nuclear weapons treaty with russia he accuses moscow of violating the decades old pact which bans the two countries from having a wide range of new clear and conventional weapons. we're not going to let them violate a nuclear agreement and go out and do weapons and we're not allowed to we're the ones that have stayed in the agreement and we've managed to grab it but russia is not one fortunately under the remit so we're going to terminate their bravery we're going to pull out and well the u.s. decision to unilaterally withdraw has triggered fiz of a new arms race let's take a closer look at what president trump is actually leaving the intermediate range nuclear forces treaty grew out of us president ronald reagan's historic meeting with the then soviet leader mikhail gorbachev that was in one thousand nine hundred
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six it prohibits the united states and russia from possessing producing or test flying missiles with a range of five hundred to five and a half thousand kilometers the united states accuses russia of deploying prohibited tactical nuclear weapons since at least twenty fourteen to intimidate european nations and former soviet states that have now aligned with the west but russia says u.s. missile defenses violates the pact the u.s. withdrawal enables it to deploy a new weapons reportedly to counter a chinese arms buildup in the pacific well nicholai sokoloff is a nuclear expert who's a senior fellow at the james martin center for nonproliferation studies he thinks president trump is being rather hasty. fortunately both sides has never been able to sit down or because they were going next for discussion technical or all or to resolve it in the course if you do diplomacy well speakers will doesn't really help
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. or so we're going to sense all the demands of the street you learned of what they would say or do the trouble of going to stray she really rushed in. israeli media says the demolition of the palestinian village calm has been postponed indefinitely but palestinian leaders have rejected those reports saying they can't be trusted if the more than two weeks is israel's deadline for the one hundred eighty bedouin residents to leave their homes israeli media is reporting the evacuation has been delayed to allow for negotiations with villages israel wants to demolish the village in the occupied west bank to make way for more of the illegal settlements the thousands of supporters of the european union have marched through london in the biggest demonstration against brett sit in the u.k. supporters of a people's vote demanding the british government hold
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a referendum on the terms of the final exit deal there's growing concern that the u.k. may end up leaving the european union next march without a deal paul brennan has more. than twenty sixteen concerned that leaving the e.u. might result in chaos were dismissed as project fear by breck's its supporters but with just five months to go until britain leaves the e.u. and still no agreement on the terms of departure millions of people are now very afraid indeed my major concerns are for the future not for my generation yes we're going to be completely stuffed with this but for my children's future and my grandchildren's future we could have all of our rights taken away because one of our trade deals take it and the students we are vulnerable to that and it's all of you just are going to be destroyed because that this was a massive turnout people came from all over the u.k. to attend in the crowd was at least five times larger than the one hundred thousand
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originally predicted by the organizers there was a significantly smaller prober exit event in the northern town of harry gets on saturday night joe for raj urging the prime minister to just get on with this. you know the evidence suggests that out of courtesy of those that voted remain now say we're democrats and we keep the government should simply get on with it i mean it's all message get on with it fulfill your promises to us you said if you voted to leave it would happen it needs to. but what is it the people's vote campaign a say the it promised and voted for in twenty sixteen is not what's going to be delivered in march next year as the weeks and months pass with no agreed deal the pressure for a people's votes is growing what's uncertain is whether the government will actually grounds of people's votes and the question will be if they do. once they've given us the vote then we can argue about what the question should pay and
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without question it should be do you want to devastate the united kingdom and create catastrophic consequences for the economy or you want to pay the option stain eighty will definitely be on the ballot paper because it is parliament itself that will decide what the question is. the prime minister is still refusing to hold another referendum the opposition labor party seems reluctant to force one but the pressure from the voting public may yet force their hand paul brennan al-jazeera central london macedonia is a step closer to formally changing its name to the republic of north macedonia parliament narrowly approves the proposed change the move would allow the country to end its twenty seven year dispute with greece and then block its bid to join nato and the european union greece says its neighbors current name implies a claim to its province with the same name the proposal be approved by the greek
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parliament. thousands of refugees and migrants remain stranded on the border between mexico guatemala they're part of a so-called caravan of people from own douras el salvador and guatemala who've been walking northwards towards the united states officials in mexico are starting to allow small groups and but other migrants are trying to make the crossing on river rafts on friday thousands tore down a fence in guatemala and storm towards the bridge in mexico. now its official name is the republic of china and beijing wants to keep it that way that many in taiwan want thing unique identity recognized by the rest of the world thousands have been protesting in taipei calling for a referendum on the nation's independence and there's divvy it up pollin ripples that would be a move likely to anger china. they fought centuries of colonialism
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and kates of dictatorship to become a fully fledged democracy and it's a right they say they will not give up that will not end china's aggression can only push us to defend ourselves we will see guard our right to self-determination . taiwan has its hands currency passport political and judicial system and china regards the island as part of its territory taiwan considers itself a sovereign state but has never declared formal independence from the mainland i want to be independent country and a referendum is the democrat the way to jail china and to tell the whole work that actually we want to be in one country many of these protesters go tit for the current government which has been resisting agents its hands and bringing taiwan in line with its policies china push a lot of pressure in taiwan to use a loss of flight of capital like some kind of shop power they want to like invade
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to taiwan chill now this critical moment. to light to stand out to to to light on the street to say like light let taiwan be taiwan but that comes at a cost angering china could have serious repercussions for taiwan beijing has previously pressured several countries to cut diplomatic ties with taipei pushed foreign companies to all you refer to taiwan as part of china and koreans patrolled by its airforce and may be close to the island china has always maintained it's within its right to take taiwan back by force if necessary and that's a risk the taiwanese government is not willing to take so even the government which started out as a separatist local identity political party is also not eager to have something that would actually possibly cause a more rapid military response from china as well. many here know it will be difficult to even hold a vote on whether.
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