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the investigation will turkey release evidence of killing. it will but in its own time the ruling party has made it quite clear that he does not intend to get involved in any cover up whatsoever but in terms of timing and details of when they will release the details of their finding they're taking their time and they are going to be completely a completely across international law every step of the way there's been a lot of detail a lot of effort put in to getting things completely right it is complex because the building behind me that consulate is saudi terra tree vienna convention has a set of rules on all diplomatic immunity all sorts of areas that are being looked at more by riyadh istanbul it has to be said because as far as the turks are
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concerned it's a homicide inquiry like any other on the ground the big point now obviously is finding the remains and that is the big issue because come out because he died in that building and according to the tapes the suggestion is that his body was caught up by his killers so this is an area now that only the saudis know where the body might be but they have said according to sources in saudi arabia that they disposed of the body they gave it to a local contract that was the reports that was a ring of twenty four hours ago however that the turks are saying they are determined to try to find the remains of the sixty year old journalists and that's where they stand right now right and we haven't heard andrea from president add on
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for some time now on this on political tactics also at play here. this is a very interesting area the the words from the turkish president. a few days back not on camera but nothing really significant really since his telephone conversation with king solomon just before the announcement of the saudi take on the whole affair which is really stunned so many people not only here but right across the world as charles was alluding to in his report but the pulse of the bottom line is this that the turks are determined to keep momentum going momentum in terms of world attention they don't really have to do much right now because the media coverage of this has an inertia all of its own as patty was saying in the united states there's a colossal amount of attention being given to this inquiry so in terms of leaks
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which were expected further leaks which were expected to have a baby because of one simple reason this investigation as they keep stressing is one of international concern there are more calls for explanations now since the saudis have given their take on events and really absolved all responsibility what a toll from the crown prince mohammed bin salomon so really what we're going waiting to see is the conclusion of this inquiry obviously and listening to the audiotape we understand the cia now according to sources now have heard that tape that might explain. partly why there is so much more reaction coming from the united states now that this take just does not match up from the saudi explanation of what happened in the consulate before that anderson is live for us
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in the sample henry man never it is the. teacher and a former white house national security official she says president is making conflicting statements as he's trying to secure a deal with techie. he's between a rock and a hard place his son in law and jared cushion are promoted mohamed bin some of the crown prince to become crown prince all over other more senior figures that were supported by others within the u.s. administration for example prince mohammed bin nayef was a favorite of the cia here for years and so jared questionnaire the president's son in law had to go above the cia around the cia to promote mohamed bin some a well we know from leaks from within the u.s. intelligence community not just from the turks but from within the u.s. intelligence community itself we know that they have intercepts that where they claim that perhaps mohamed bin some on but certainly others within saudi arabia to at least lure jamal khashoggi to the consulate in istanbul where he was killed i
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would assess the reason why we hear varying statements from trump sometimes saying that it would be unacceptable what has happened that the saudis would pay a price and at other times saying he believes the denials i think you see these various statements coming from trump because he knows he's seen the intelligence that implicates the saudis but he's desperately trying to figure out a narrative a deal where this case could could go away to a head on al-jazeera thousands of people feel london streets demanding of people on the brakes it. by the skyline of invasion harbor or off the coast of the italian riviera. how it's looking rather unsettled across a good part of the middle east at the moment would you believe there's a cloud lots of fried larvae downpours as well for good measure
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a lot of clouds showing up on the satellite picture there just spinning out of syria into iraq around the eastern side of the med it shouldn't be too bad actually beirut twenty seven celsius going up to twenty two fortress and you can see with the wet weather just falls into place baghdad could see some very heavy showers over the next day also with the possibility of some localized flooding those showers eventually make their way down into kuwait a stiff that dry and sunny twenty celsius there for kabul it's thirty five in karate but you can see there is some clouds as you make their way back across the gulf of missing some really heavy rain here in kata during the past well the past six hours or so terrific amounts of rainfall actually we had over sixty millimeters of rain coming down in the space of just one hour in bear in mind for the annual average rainfall seventy seven millimeters of writing say has inevitably cause some flooding plenteous seems like that's out there i'm afraid hopefully not too bad as we go through the next couple of days but the rain never really too far away fair
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amount of cloud there up towards the northeast and possibly rabia down toward just southwest that flick to the other side of the by monday. the with the sponsored by cats on race. what makes this moment we'll leave it to you. we haven't seen the president this unpredictable. leader speech is a challenge partly political that is a perfect formula for authoritarianism and tyranny or me in the light so. there's nowhere to hide let me ask you straight up here is the true statesman should know up from returns on al-jazeera.
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welcome back our top stories on al-jazeera president donald trump has told the washington post that cold obviously has been deception and there have been lies regarding the killing of saudi journalists. the saudi government says a journalist died during a fistfight inside its consulate in istanbul earlier this month the washington post also says cia officers have heard the audio recording that turkey says proves how he died meanwhile new zealand has joined france germany the european union and the un in calling for a credible transparent and in-depth investigation into how short is death germany's foreign minister says they shouldn't be arms sales to riyadh before a complete inquiry. now the world news vote counting has begun in afghanistan's first parliamentary
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elections in eight years there were a number of attacks on polling stations that left at least seventeen people dead and more than seventy wounded from kabul his hashim had. it was a day by violence as suicide bomber blew himself up outside a polling station in kabul killing and injuring dozens of people it was one of several attacks in the afghan capital but it was said it's a good i was there where the blast my fell down on the ground blood was everywhere and there are many casualties but i don't know what happened next. but the attacks haven't deter people from casting their votes. and i act of defiance despite the growing threats and tense security situation this is the third parliamentary election since the fall of the taliban in two thousand and one people here in kabul showed up in the early hours at polling stations all the time like i said. i will
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vote for someone who would work for afghanistan and serve the nation we need patriots who care about the country these people that deserve to be elected to parliament but i would call is a must have today i am exercising my democratic right i want to choose the right person who will fight for my rights in the rights of women and women in large numbers their voices will be heard. extraordinary security measures were in place in the capital kabul the authorities are taking no chances ten candidates were killed during election campaigning. the president suspended the election in kandahar province after the taliban killed two top officials there on thursday election was also delayed in gaza the province following ethnic disputes. what happened in kandahar was a sad moment not only for the people of kandahar but for all of us the decision to suspend the election was taken in collaboration with different institutions of the
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state of also appointed a committee to investigate the problems we face in gaza this election was initially supposed to take place three years ago but was delayed because. of a political impasse that has crippled the country the international community has been pushing for political reforms a clamp down on corruption and we conciliation this is not like election in any any country it's a very special election for the afghan people side by their courage. their will to choose their own future. election officials are using biometric voter verification devices for the first time to prevent vote rigging but technical glitches slowed down the voting. the election has been extended for another day in some areas to allow maximum participation this election is only a first step in a long political process it will be followed by presidents elections in april
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that's when the afghan authorities will decide on pursuing political talks with the taliban and forming a national unity government move backed by the u.s. and others who insist there is no military solution to the afghan conflict. covered . yes reson donald trump says he will abandon a landmark nuclear weapons treaty with russia he accuses moscow of violating the decades old parts which bans the two countries from having a wide range of nuclear and conventional weapons we're not going to let them violate a nuclear agreement and go out and do weapons and we're not allowed to we're the ones that have stayed in the agreement and we finally agree with what russia is not one fortunately under the agreement so we're going to terminate their bravery we're going to pull out all the u.s. decision to unilaterally withdraw has triggered fears of a new arms race the intermediate range nuclear forces treaty grew out of us present . president ronald reagan's historic meeting with soviet leader mikhail gorbachev
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in one thousand nine hundred eighty six it prohibits the united states and russia from possessing producing or testifying missiles with a range of five hundred to five and a half thousand kilometers the united states accuses russia of deploying for hit a tactical nuclear weapons since at least twenty fourteen to intimidate european nations and former soviet states that are aligned with the west russia says the u.s. missile defenses of violate the pats the u.s. withdrawal would enable it to deploy new weapons reportedly to counter a chinese arms buildup in the pacific nicholai so-called is a nuclear expert who is a senior fellow at the james martin center for nonproliferation studies he thinks trump is acting hastily. fortunately both sides has never been able to sit down or because they were going next for discussion technical or all all the result is a little worse if you do diplomacy well speakers will doesn't agree with you know.
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all the demands of the street you learned or what they would say or did the trouble of going to stray she really rushed in to abrogate the treaty. israeli media says the demolition of the palestinian village of qana has been postponed indefinitely a palestinian leaders have rejected those reports saying they cannot be trusted it's been more than two weeks since israel's deadline for the one hundred eighty bedouin residents to leave their homes israeli media says evacuation has been delayed to allow for negotiations with the villages israel wants to demolish the village in the occupied west bank to make way for more illegal settlements in tanzania africa's young is billionaire has returned home unharmed after being kidnapped from outside a luxury hotel a week ago. was released by his kidnappers as police were about to search house houses in an area he was being held to a she was snatched by gunmen as he entered a hotel gym in dar es salaam last week the forty three year old is said to be worth
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one and a half billion dollars. thousands of supporters of the european union have marched for london in the biggest demonstration against breck sit in the u.k. supporters of a people's vote are demanding the british government hold a referendum on the terms of the final exit deal there's growing concern the u.k. may leave the e.u. next march without a deal paul brennan reports from london. in twenty sixteen concerned that leaving the e.u. might result in chaos but dismissed as project fear by breck's its supporters but with just five months to go until britain leaves the e.u. and still no agreement on the terms of departure millions of people are now very afraid indeed my major concerns are for the future not for my generation yes we're going to be completely stuffed with this but for my children's future and my grandchildren's future we could have all of our rights taken away because one of our trade deals taken and for students we are vulnerable to that and it's off you
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just are going to be destroyed because the back. this was a massive turnout people came from all over the u.k. to attend in the crowd was at least five times larger than the one hundred thousand originally predicted by the organizers there was a significantly smaller prober exit event in the northern town of harry gets on saturday nigel for raj urging the prime minister to just get on with this. you'll be able to suggest about a dozen of those that voted remain now say we're democrats and we keep the government should simply get on with it and that's all message get on with it fulfill your promises to us you said if you voted to leave it would happen it needs to. but what is it the people's vote campaign to say the it's promised and voted for in twenty sixteen is not what's going to be delivered in march next year. as the weeks and months pass with no agreed deal the pressure for a people's vote is growing what's uncertain is whether the government will actually
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granted people's votes and what the question will be if they do. once they've given us the vote then we can argue about what the question should be and without question it should be do you want to devastate the united kingdom and create catastrophic consequences for the economy or do you honestly need the option steyn definitely be on the ballot paper because it is parliament itself to decide the question is. i know. the prime minister is still refusing to hold another referendum the opposition labor party seems reluctant to force one with the pressure from the voting public may yet force their hand brennan al-jazeera central london a week before the runoff elections brazilians are protesting against foreign presidential front runner shi'a both a narrow they've been demonstrations across the country against a controversial candidate with close ties to the military has been criticized for
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his homophobic sexist and racist comments attacking women people of color and the country's gay community is leading in the polls against leftist candidate for nando dot. macedonia is a step closer to formally changing its name to the republic of north macedonia parliament now only approves the proposed change to move would allow the country to end this one to seven year dispute present and rock its bid to join nato and the european union re says its neighbors current name implies a claim to its problems with the same name the proposal must still be approved by the greek parliament. and the and. the and. you know again i'm fully back to bill with the headlines on al-jazeera u.s. president donald trump has told the washington post that called obviously there's been deception and they've been lies regarding the killing of saudi journalists.
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the saudi government says a journalist died during a fistfight inside the saudi consulate in istanbul earlier this month the washington post also says cia officers have heard the audio recording that turkey says pool's how she died meanwhile in new zealand has joined france germany. and the u.n. in calling for a credible transparent and in-depth investigation into her death germany's foreign minister says they shouldn't be arm sales to saudi arabia before a complete inquiry. in other news vote counting has begun in afghanistan's first parliamentary elections in eight years there were a number of attacks on polling stations that met at least seventeen civilians dead and more than seventy wounded because of the violence and technical issues in some provinces voting has been extended for one more day u.s. person donald trump says he will abandon a nuclear landmark landmark nuclear weapons treaty with russia he says moscow of violating the decades all pact which bans the two countries from having a wide range of nuclear and conventional weapons. we're not going to let them
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violate a nuclear agreement and go out and do weapons and we're not allowed to we're the ones that have stayed in the agreement and we've done it but russia is not one fortunately i wanted to agreement so we're going to terminate it bravely we're going to. israeli media says the demolition of the palestinian village of qana has been postponed to allow for negotiations but palestinian leaders have rejected those reports saying they can't be trusted it's been more than two weeks since israel's deadline for the one hundred eighty bedouin residents to leave their homes israel wants to demolished a village in the occupied west bank to make way for more illegal settlements a week before the runoff elections brazilians are protesting against far right candidates. or the presidential candidate has been criticized for his homophobic cess sexist and racist comments attacking women people of color and the gay community is leading in the polls against the leftist candidate for nanda had.
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those are the headlines on al jazeera up next it's up front stay with us. prima ballerina discusses the pain and sacrifice behind the two to. impotence russia the pain starts from the very beginning of the school. our bodies are not physically prepared for what we have to to do. the u.k. is less than six months away from leaving the e.u. but without a deal nothing going to plan and even food and medicine shortages on the horizon was the whole breck's a vote a colossal mistake that's our debate. those who pushed for brakes it will quote never be forgotten nor forgiven the words of
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former british conservative prime minister john major on tuesday breaks it is less than six months away and the u.k. government is no closer to agreeing an exit deal with the e.u. despite another round of negotiations on wednesday a no deal breaks it money astonishingly result in food and medicine shortages in the u.k. so what's the brics vote a huge mistake and can it should it be undone joining me to debate this our lord and don't is former labor cabinet minister under tony blair and the storage opponent of it and returning to the show for the first time since the e.u. referendum campaign conservative member of the european parliament and an evangelist for bracks and daniel had thank you both for joining me on upfront daniel your prime minister and party leader to reason may has often said bricks it means bricks it but what does bricks it mean to you what does it look like we don't seem to actually have a clue do we. what breaks it means becoming again a sovereign country so that we hire and fire the people who pass our laws and so
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the u.k. laura supreme on our own soil how you then negotiate your relations with the e.u. is the range of views on my own view is that having recovered our sovereignty we should have the closest relationship with the e.u. compatible with being an independent country. is comprised of friends and allies of ours so from every point of view it is better to have a amicable core deal working relationship with the e.u. where we are if you like the friendliest country that is a nonmember blazing away for every other country that doesn't want to join if not and they want to show means you can get a deal if you leave the e.u. without getting a deal which looks increasingly likely you're ok with that if you're going to ask this question if any other potential trading partner had gone to the e.u. with the package to resume a was offering of salzburg if they canada or japan or any other potential trading partner would come along and said we will unilaterally accept all of your physical
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good standards and we will continue to protect your security and we promise to accept your rules on the environment and labor laws and we will pay you for the privilege the e.u. we know how they were directed to that they have said quick quick get them to sign before the idiots come to their senses so the fact that they're not prepared to do that makes me wonder whether there is any readiness to do a deal on their side and that's why i think it would be crazy not to prepare for an ideal scenario andrea don't want to respond. well what's interesting is that like many of the brics this is now starting to blame the e.u. for the fact that we're great sitting because the problems that he's just described are to do with rex itself he described one vision of brics it but there are one hundred and one other visions of brics it's the he has said now that what the prime minister is trying to negotiate which is leaving the customs union leaving the single market in the case setting up a very complex and difficult arrangement on islands. see that there isn't a border between northern ireland and the republic of ireland he has said that in his view that's unacceptable well that's one version of bricks he doesn't like he's
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put forward one that he doesn't like the truth is two years ago when people voted in the referendum they were voting with a whole load of different options for what leave might mean now that the chickens are coming home to roost it's clear that it's not possible to deliver bricks it works what daniel is seeking to do is to write the history books and to blame the e.u. for its well what i'm seeking to do and those of us who are trying to hold the middle ground in the debates in england is is to do what i think is the right thing now which is to put the issue back to the people and say look you clearly didn't vote for any of this you didn't vote to be poor you didn't vote for chaos you didn't vote for a government that's now talking about only six weeks of medical supplies and food stockpiling you didn't vote for a hard border in ireland that could bring back the troubles and the return of paramilitary activity in northern ireland you didn't vote for any of these things so the right thing is a people's vote a second referendum end this nightmare and then we can go on with our lives without
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having to spend a lot why not of all why not of why do we make it best of three why should we accept an argument for another referendum from people who by definition do not accept referendum results i remember in the run up to the first one all of the people who are now demanding a second vote were loudest in insisting that that was the final decision that that never been over go john major nick clegg paddy ashdown what all on air on the record saying there's never going to be another go at this think about what you're doing and you don't you'll let me know what i'm going there vote that i know you were voted for and i did it i didn't want to get your argument there about you know where did it where do you draw the line but you yourself having once referred to a second referendum movement as a doomsday cult not long ago have now are now saying quickly foreign wrong that you're so opposed to the u.k. staying in a customs union which is the labor party wants you would prefer a second referendum even to that even you're open to the idea of an. referendum as much as you're being snarky about it because no no that what what what what what happened here is if that were to be the case we would have effectively had
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a group of m.p.'s and peers who had frustrated the referendum result who had deliberately gone for an unacceptable result it with the over same of overturning it so the biggest vote for anything in british history would have been overturned by our politicians but is was just spending a moment on why that is such an appalling outcome and why the people who are pushing for it really notice it first and stays in the customs union as a nonmember we give brussels one hundred percent control of our trade policy with zero percent input from us and in fact is even worse than that if you're in a customs union with the e.u. as a nonmember then whenever the e.u. does a trade deal with a third country say the e.u. did a trade deal with india. britain would have to match every concession made by the e.u. but india under w t o term. rules would only have to reciprocate visa fee the e.u. not visa the person now i don't believe any remain at all even possibly think that
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is a good outcome. i've got a question for daniel then because actually as it happens i can use him i'd much rather stay in the e.u. than have an arrangement where we're kind of vassal states and obliged to implement a how you trade interest in little so you can get a side of the referendums and just point is you cannot keep lumber and i'm in favor of it but where do you draw the line while we're on done little or no we're not talking i'm not after yours i'm not talking about a referendum after referendum i'm talking about a referendum on whatever deal to resume comes back with because we're actually faced with the actual reality of a cliff edge at the moment it's all about hypothetical situation and the great majority of the public now agree polls show that they should take that decision on whether or not we go over this cliff or whether we stop it and stay in the point is done all that he wants a second referenda because now you've got something to vote on isn't the reality that you guys did this whole thing backwards you didn't vote on bricks it without knowing what it looks like without doing the deal without offering all these different proposals of customs unions checkers. isn't the point you did it
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backwards and now you do have to do a deal especially when polls show the majority of public now don't support pulling out of the e.u. they switched according to the latest polls. well that's what the polls showed before the first one right and look how that worked out i mean first of all a second referendum wouldn't solve anything because the majority people would boycott it on the perfectly valid grounds that it invalidated all of the promises made in the first one because we were told repeatedly by the government by the opposition by all of the people now demanding a second vote that that was a final decision that would never be another go so it would be absurd to legitimize people trying to undo the promise on which the first one was take a lot of donors knows perfectly well what he's doing by demanding a second referendum here is encouraging the e.u. quite overtly in his case to offer the worst possible deal in the hope of overturning. roe so that is only regretted and if the way to go and do encouraging the if you can actually deal every other second referendum. now that's absolutely
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absurd because because it doesn't go to a people's vote parliament still has to decide what to do with the maze agreement doesn't have a majority in the house of commons so if what the e.u. is seeking to do is to game the decision to give us the worst possible terms in the hope that there were ject that they would do that anyway the reason that i want a people's vote is i think this issue is of such magnitude that it should go to the people because it started with the people with the referendum two years ago but the sick every time that opens his mouth he says something very significant which is a variance with what most of his colleagues say i took him to be saying a moment ago that he thinks that people who voted to leave two years ago should boycott a referendum on the terms of bracks and he said that there will be a mass boycott of the referendum could you answer the question is he calling for people who are in favor of leaving the e.u. to boycott a referendum and therefore to make try and make democracy inoperable in britain is that what he's saying and what is making democracy in operable. is holding
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a referendum where the government sends a leaflet to every household in the land saying whatever we were you vote that we will implement your decision i don't remember lord adonis or anyone else on the remains side dissenting from that when the prime minister of the time said there is no going to be a second vote and make sure you do so that you think about this one ok let's get a quick answer yes or no are you calling for a mass boycott to predicting one which won a second referendum would be utterly illegitimate and i mean i don't know what other people would do but i would not vote in a second referendum because we just had a referendum you are all knowing i was going to load anything so that i was able to hold it would you encourage other people who vote in the illegitimate second. my own view is that if you're dealing with that situation where the british people have given a very clear mandate and the unelected peers and the elites then turn around and try and undo the biggest mandate we've ever had for anything that we should not play that game we should just say no we've already voted we're not having any more to do with your question you also mind we're talking one second seed surely you can see that another referendum which produced a stay in vote would basically destroy
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a huge amount of trust in british politics from the people who voted to leave the twenty something they would say we want to vote in twenty sixteen we were told our vote would be respected and now the good old politicians got together and basically cancelled our democratic vote that's clearly an absurd proposition because the people can't betray the people what will happen in this case is that having looked at the terms of bracks it's actually a different question from the ones who years ago that have seen the terms of brick sit there live see that many of the things that daniel hadn't told us would happen two years ago because everything was going to be milk and honey when we did breaks it they haven't happened and they've reached a judgment what is significant i haven't seen the terms of rate hoping that it's a ridiculous hurdle this would be like saying we want to have an election and then have another level to fall this government is not a chance to be formed hold on they will do it by the time we have the referendum don't you because that's the whole purpose of having it is the movie actually see what to make comes about from brussels with the first time we've seen it because two and a half years after the last referendum she still hasn't got. today anything when we
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actually see that we the people then get the chance not the elites you're talking about we the people don't get the chance to give our view and it's done you let me ask you this question down there because you came on the show in twenty sixteen during the referendum campaign you made the case very eloquently at the time for breaks it your side won the referendum but clearly if somebody called for a second referendum a week afterwards we would laugh them out of town but given two years later things haven't quite got to go into those i'll hold on but where we are now well done in another color be fair where we are now you know very well we have reports from the national farmers union saying food won't run our doctors saying there might be a medicine shortage the government saying we have to deploy troops to the border you know this is not how it was supposed to go there's no deal in sight there might be a no deal breaker here but there's no doubt i love those are regulars although not northern ireland was not debated in the referendum campaign the way it is now with there may be violence again in northern ireland which three quarters of english conservative voters say they're fine with as long as the happens things have changed surely must concede that you must have some you must be able to look back
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and say this is not quite what we promised i think it is extraordinary chutzpah. four people who immediately after the referendum started working to undermine it started signaling to brussels or they should hang tough and not concede anything we had three senior british politicians writing an article this week in a german newspaper saying don't concede anything to reason may because hang in there and we'll have a second referendum so people who have spent the last two years attempting to undermine any kind of settlement now have the front to turn around say or it's not going very well we'd better have a second vote i think the public will see through that it is not going well can you please concede that large no i'm absolutely i'm absolutely confident that we will look back on brics it is the right decision the european project is like a conveyor belt going in an undesirable direction towards more centralization more integration of fiscal harmonization military union all the rest of it brics it was a decision to step off that conveyor belt and within
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a few years will look back and wonder what took us so long and do you have confidence in your prime minister a woman who did not support brooks it and has as has lost the confidence of a lot of conservative m.p.'s and voters do you have confidence in her to deliver that she won't deliver precisely the bricks that i wanted but i have no doubt that breaks it will still leave us better off than remaining would andrew bracks it's going to happen isn't it that's the reality and shouldn't you get on board rather than trying to undermine it i think then your hand is on another planet if he thinks the people in the look back and see this is anything other than a disaster but we're a democracy we still have the opportunity until next march to put an end to this nightmare that's where the public is and that's why i believe that the right course is a people's vote and if there is a people's votes then i think that breaks it will be overwhelmingly rejected when people see what the last one of the penguin voters that their jobs are in jeopardy that they're going to be that they're going to be poor that there's the danger of the new role of paramilitary activity in northern ireland if there's a new border and defense and our security in jeopardy is well we'll have to leave
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it there this story isn't going away but andrew don't miss daniel hannan thank you both for joining me on up front. there are some who say my next guest represents the future of the democratic party who here on kustra a former mayor in texas and secretary of housing and urban development under barack obama has been talked about as a future presidential candidate and was on hillary clinton's vice presidential short list in twenty sixteen in a new book an unlikely journey waking up from my american dream castro tells the story of how he and his twin brother joaquin now a u.s. congressman both rose to national prominence with historic midterm elections around the corner what's his vision for the democrats in an age of trump. thanks for joining me on up front in your new book you describe your shock at trump's election back in november twenty sixth and you've said that people were quote trying to send a message about their frustration with washington d.c. but don't really mean their frustration with the people in power in washington d.c.
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which was your boss then president barack obama well every now and then people will throw the middle finger at washington d.c. and you'll have a massive change election and there have been times when that has benefited democrats in times when that's benefited republicans. we have to remember that hillary clinton still got two point eight million more votes than donald trump in that election and so really it was your concerns that certain parts of the country had more than others and did a good job politically of appealing to certain folks raising dog whistles so that is that is that is the corollary to that that the democrats failed to reach those people in the same way that trump did it was a failure on the part of the democratic campaign well in twenty sixteen you know the the election results speak for themselves around i mean we didn't win michigan
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we didn't win ohio we didn't win pennsylvania and so of course there was a failure there to persuade enough folks that president obama. i had persuaded just four years earlier but i think overall that the democratic message of trying to create opportunity for everybody making sure that folks get health care investing in things like brainpower and education that more people believed and believe now in that so you don't agree with someone like senator bernie sanders who lost the democratic primary standard comes in who said that the republicans didn't win in twenty sixteen the democrats lost he says that's his line well i think you know i agree that there are ways that we can make sure that we motivate folks more to get out and vote. and that anybody would acknowledge there are improvements to be made from two thousand and sixteen going into twenty eighteen and twenty twenty . what i think we can say with the same confidence is whether with a different nominee there would have been
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a different result i think that's just you know i don't think you can say that you spend a lot of time discussing immigration in your book in your extremely critical of trump's cruel immigration policy of course family separations at the border putting kids in cages you'll based in texas how bad is the situation right now the border in your view well they're kind of to a stance or the number one donald trump has painted this picture of a crime ridden border zone this place where people are coming across the border like crazy and border crossings are near a forty year low and those border cities in my home state at least of texas like el paso and mccalla brownsville a few others are some of the safest cities for places their size in the united states and so you know he's sold a lot of americans a bill of goods with respect to the border and then secondly how bad is it well for those kids that are sleeping in the detention centers in that camp near el paso
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that are separated from their parents that are crying out for them every night that are going to be traumatized. as for a life it's a horrible situation i consider that an abuse of human rights what they're doing i consider it state sponsored child abuse and basically kidnapping of kids from their parents and so from that standpoint donald trump is an abysmal failure when it comes to treating people the way that they should be treated so it's great to hear politicians such as making some noise about what's going on it is outrageous what's happening at the border and you say it's state sponsored child abuse isn't the problem though that when democrats like yourself speak out against this a lot of people say well hold on you first have to reckon with your own record in office president obama was called deporter in chief by a lot of immigration rights groups he deported more people from the u.s. than all of the u.s. presidents of the twentieth century put together more than two million people and when unaccompanied children came to the u.s.
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in twenty fourteen he didn't take kids from their parents to the policy has trumped it but he did put kids in detention where some of them were abused according to recent reports that reckoning has to happen doesn't it within the democratic party with that part of the obama record i think that you have to look at the totality of the record there were also a lot of folks progressive democrats. and i think most proudly a lot of the dreamers the activists who pushed to the administration in two thousand and eleven two thousand and twelve thirteen fourteen to implement dhaka and then to implement. the way that president obama. and the administration handled a lot of these issues was night and day compared to the trumpet ministration and i think it's fair to say that the obama administration got better and better in terms of how it dealt with the issue of immigration as undeniably true and i think immigration going to be but the reality is children were detained under obama
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children ended up being abused in detention under obama and lots of people innocent people who would not commit to major crimes were deported some of them were killed . to being to put it that i don't need to be some expression of regret apology from the democrats that if we're going to trump on this rightly so we need to also be a bit more critical of our own record and i think people were critical during that time both within the democratic who were already ministration did you raise because they're in the budget it's a fact i talk about in april of two thousand and fourteen. the fact that i said that i was not comfortable at the time with the way that the administration was handling the issue of immigration but i think what you see do you think you're going to see a future democratic administration should pledge not to do what trump or obama didn't put kids in detention under any circumstances i think that future administrations should say we're going to find a different way to do this we're going to find a way that both and both these humane and keeps families together.
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and ensures that we don't inflict the kind of trauma the trump administration is inflicting on these kids and then also of course meets the needs of border security and we can do both of those cities and one of the ways trump is inflicting trauma is by using immigration and customs enforcement basically as a kind of some of called secret police but if you want to call it a stop oh yeah going into churches courthouses rounding up all sorts of people who should be rounded up a lot of democrats are now saying abolish ice including leading senators do you support that move to abolish i support figuring out how to reconstitute that division and i know that is somebody who headed a federal agency that these divisions of the federal government get improved and get reconstituted all the time and so don't think that this division of the federal government is somehow synchro saying it is not true as i'm confused is this when you say reconstitute is the abolition install
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a rush you're talking about is that we're no longer going to have any kind of in forstmann that i would say no you're always going to have border enforcement however. if what you mean is are we going to have this same kind of tactics the same kind of culture of the same kind of abuses that we've seen or even the same sort of structure that we've seen if it is to be honest in some but not replace no i'm saying that the i think that ice can be reconfigured reconstituted ok just before we finish you haven't exactly been shy about your own presidential aspirations right now you have a democratic field of front runners of some pretty big names like vice president former vice president joe biden senators elizabeth warren and bernie saunders how do you expect to break through when you have these kind of big hitters already staking out their places in the field give make a decision after november as to whether i'm going to run or not if i make a decision to run then i don't worry about that i believe that when i start talking
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to folks there in those early states and. talking about my vision for the future of the country that i'll do great and if it is warren or saunders of biden one thing they all have in common all excellent politicians in different ways is they're all white and they will be in their seventy's do you think actually in two thousand and twenty the democrats should be putting forward a person of color who is younger i believe that next nominee is going to be somebody who's the opposite of trump and so it's going to be somebody that's trying to unite people instead of divide people somebody that is focused on the future instead of the past somebody that seen as honest instead of corrupt and someone i think who what about someone who is left enough for the democratic base is that you you've been called a pragmatist in the past you think you know progressive enough is quite a left wing democratic base right oh i believe that if i decide to run that i'm going to be fine in that regard yeah i don't have a concern about that i do think that that whether the issues health care or tax policy and so forth that the next nominee is going to be somebody that captures
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the spirit of where we are right now as democrats and and there are a number of people that are. very talented they're looking at that race so more the thing else whether i run or not i'm glad that we're going to have just a whole bunch of folks up there and a lot of people to choose from and the question for you what happens if you and your brother joaquin both end up running for president one day because how would that work i mean i wrote a book about it miliband who was the labor leader who ran to get his brother david miliband admit that didn't work out so well for both brothers i'm going to do that have a ranger in that you'll want to get older so you'll run in two thousand and twenty and he'll try if you don't do that i just what i what we're really we are more like the klitschko is than the miliband we're not going to fight each other. custer thank you for joining me up front. that's our show up front will be back next week .
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al jazeera is a very important force of information for many people around the world when all the cameras are gone i'm still here to go into areas that nobody else is going to talk to people that nobody else is talking to and bringing that story to the forefront. you don't know where public service stops and private interest begins what's at
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stake is the very essence of democracy we have never had a president so brazenly treating the oval office as an opportunity to make. phone lines follows the money investigating with the donald trump is profiting from the presidency and asking what the cost would be for democracy in the usa and the president's profits on al-jazeera. deception and lies donald trump casts doubt on tory about the death of journalist. germany and france join the growing chorus of voices questioning the credibility of his explanation which says he died during a fist fights inside the saudi consulate in istanbul.
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this is al jazeera live from our headquarters here in doha fully back people are also counting on elections in afghanistan overshadowed by violence and technical problems forcing some areas to extend voting for an extra day plus pulling out of a landmark nuclear weapons deal president trump accuses russia of multiple violations and says the u.s. will leave. thank you for joining us u.s. president donald trump has told the washington post that quote obviously there's been deception and they have been lies regarding the killing of saudi journalists. the saudi government says a journalist died during a fistfight inside this consulate in istanbul earlier this month the washington post also say cia officers have heard the audio recording that turkey says proves
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how he died and has an atheist from washington. since the story first broke that jamal khashoggi had disappeared u.s. president had been fairly consistent sending the message that he didn't want to punish saudi arabia severely if it in fact turned out that they were involved but we are seeing the first signs that that might be changing in a late night interview with the washington post president donald trump said about this quote obviously there's been deceptions and there's been wise he was asked if it's possible that the saudi crown prince mohammed bin solomon could be involved and to that he said nobody has told me he's responsible nobody has told me he's not responsible we haven't reached that point i haven't heard either way now this comes after days of relentless pounding from critics and people within his own party that are demanding that president trump do more. trying to campaign on the west
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coast u.s. president donald trump couldn't get away from the questions about democracy is murder it was pretty much all reporters asked about as for the saudi explanation the president had this response well i'm not satisfied until we find the answer but it was a big first step it was a good first step but i want to get to the answer he says that could come by tuesday but he again insisted that what is most important to him the money that saudi arabia spends in the u.s. the amounts of been changing over time one hundred ten billion four hundred fifty billion gets four hundred fifty thousand jobs four hundred fifty billion dollars six hundred thousand jobs it's over a million jobs but experts say those numbers are simply not true not accurate not even close the administration of the white house is operating on this false narrative that saudi arabia that we're dependent saudi arabia that saudi arabia has arms purchases support american industry that they do that they we need them they
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don't need us that they could go someplace else that's not an accurate narrative and it isn't persuading saudis critics in congress. or in the press who are increasingly pointing the finger directly at the saudi crown prince mohammed bin saul mon the publisher of who should use former newspaper the washington post is accusing saudi arabia of trying to cover up his murder and the editorial board is urging people worldwide to shun saudi arabia intil the kingdom changes writing the first step in that process is determining the full truth about the coup shoji murder and holding its likely author mohammed bin solomon fully accountable for the vice president joe biden seemed to agree the rest of the world is watching the united states of america we have let the world and they're wondering where the hell are we what's become of us and now m.b.'s saudi arabia you lied no my lord he's making excuses
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by the way you know that all expression some people bring a gun to a knife right where you don't bring long saws to flights the anger shows no signs of abating this is the straw that broke the camel's back as far as the united states is concerned that these other incidents i think he's gotten a pass on. he's not going to get a pass on this. it seems the biggest question in washington now how big of a price could saudi have to pay one more indication of the president's thinking could be changing is we haven't seen jared kushner his senior advisor and son in law anywhere near him during these days where the story has dominated the headlines question or obviously has a close relationship with mohammed bin psalm on according to aides in the washington post the president is quite annoyed with his son in laws says he feels blindsided by the whole thing. well sanjay arabia says the matter should be dealt
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with by its own courts but turkey is ruling turkey's ruling party is insisting it will not allow a saudi cover up. for reports from istanbul. of the days of calling the allegations baseless lawyers saudi arabia has admitted to the world that jamal khashoggi was killed inside its consulate in istanbul. it is crucial she died as a result of a brawl that broke out with officials who had flown to help him return to saudi arabia reality admission is a sharp turn for the kingdom which is always insisted that he had left the building twenty minutes after he had entered a few of buying the latest saudi narrative we know the facts now the turks have dribbled dripped out for the last couple of weeks this is now about a political battle rather than a quest for the truth because again i think we know what the truth is i think turkey is going to fight to keep these facts coming out so that the story doesn't
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die i think the turkish government is so infuriated that it was so disrespected to have this sort of action happen on its on its own soil governments around the world are not satisfied with saudi arabia's explanation that makes the bin i have to ask the nine and up i'm talking about saudi arabia those terrible events which still haven't been cleared up yet and maybe of course demand an explanation and close ally britain says it's considering what next steps to take the president of the european parliament has called for an urgent investigation to clarify the circumstances surrounding because soldier's death such point minister mark root has echoed those sentiments saying many questions still unanswered those questions center around evidence the turkish government has leaked so far the fifteen men that include several of crown prince muhammad bin solomons personal detail members of saudi arabia's special forces unit and one of the kingdom's seno autopsy experts
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the turkey says flew to istanbul with a second when he disappeared c.c.t.v. footage clearly shows a mayhem trip the man who it's reported led the operation to kill khashoggi entering the consulates on that day a couple of hours before the saudi journalist went inside. well trip was filmed leaving the country with other members of the team later in the day friends and colleagues of the murdered journalist on saturday gathered outside the consulate denouncing the saudi narrative as lies and demanding justice because. other than it is today we are quoting the whole world and we want justice for time all we want to miles mud that has to be punished however we want punishment not only for the eighteen men but also for the authority that gave the order this on saturday more fatigued was leaked this time of the saudi journalist with his fiance entering their new apartment in istanbul which they had bought just weeks before he
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disappeared you know other leaks turkish officials also claim that he was never interrogated but he was beaten and killed within minutes by a group that was flown in specifically for that purpose it seems that turkey believes this was a premeditated operation to kill him saudi arabia's story of how crucial she died was followed by royal decrees that source some intelligence officials and an advisor to the crown prince relieved of their posts but in an absolute monarchy many want to how such an operation could have taken place without the direct order or at least consent and knowledge of de facto ruler crown prince muhammad bin salma the saudis have released their version of what they say happened in this building but it's a narrative that very few people or indeed world leaders believe turkey says saudi arabia had no choice but to admit that he died in the consulate because of evidence
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that he says it has obtained ankara says it will not allow a saudi arabian coverup in the investigation continues the question is what more evidence the turkish investigators have. stuff with al-jazeera to stumble into remember it is a c.e.o.'s or teacher and a former white house national security official she says she says the case and trump equation with the saudi crown prince will impact the midterm elections he's between a rock and a hard place his son in law jared cushion or promoted mohamed bin some on crown the crown prince to become crown prince all over other more senior figures that were supported by others within the u.s. administration for example prince mohammed bin nayef was a favorite of the cia here for years and so jared kushner the president's son in law had to go to the cia around the cia to promote muhammad bin some on well we
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know from leaks from within the u.s. intelligence community not just from the turks but from within the u.s. intelligence community itself we know that they have intercepts that where they claim that perhaps mohamed been summoned but certainly others within saudi arabia planned to at least lure jamal khashoggi to the consulate in istanbul where he was killed i would assess the reason why we hear varying statements from tribe sometimes saying that it would be unacceptable what has happened that the saudis would pay a price and at other times saying he believes the denials i think you see these various statements coming from trump because he knows he's seen the intelligence that implicates the saudis but he's desperately trying to figure out a narrative a deal where this case could could go away in other world news vote counting has begun in afghanistan's for a spot of entry to actions in a is there were a number of attacks on polling stations that met at least seventeen civilians dead and more than seventy wounded ten policemen and
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a soldier were also killed in the violence this go live to bed is in kabul for us voting had to be extended in some parts of the country because of the finance op people heading to the polls again this morning in those areas. they are suppose opened at seven am almost three hours ago are now in for four hundred polling seem to is that reopened from the five thousand. yesterday at least in kabul there were long queues again this morning people turning out to vote yesterday a lot of the polling seem to head issues which is which is why they have reopened four hundred. issues were along the lines of stuff simply didn't show up they showed up late some of the voter lists was sent to the wrong provinces the people showed up the names weren't there to vote by machines when there was a whole host of things beyond the security concerns so this is essentially like a a do or if you will for the election commission to tripe.

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