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so the people we have. a life sentence to do with that this criminal unfortunately i want to ask you as well about the idea that there was this effort by the saudi government coming from crown prince bin. been some man that they were trying to sort of round up. dissidents for from outside of saudi arabia and try and try to bring them back to the country what do you make of that. now there is a lot of facts that support the stories. i have at the heart i have heard from sources but talking about sources is a very risky think when they are also in the opposition so now everybody have come clean so many other sharif have come out and said they tried to get her to the cell of the embassy and she is in a straight we are omar has a variety of other of them as he is and he is in canada also the same people try to
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get him to the embassy and and the story of. godless has dollar solum a certain outcome that and best answer and the us have been part of this so i think the saudi government thought after killing people in yemen with no pushback from that international community or anybody else this kid then to qatar think that he did it with canada again you cannot there's a pattern that he's fighting mr obama mr trump fights so mr trump wasn't so happy with canada you can see how the sold is dealt with russian all the way towards the canadian then turkey was in trouble with the americans because of the president of the priests and now he's out but you can see that the timing. helps mr trump as don't i know
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a soap man at this and none get has forward from that trump and months aeration and that american people how to know that there are morally irresponsible about this that night eve leader acts now he is not a king gets what he will be that kinked and if he became a kink it's your responsibility if you put another dictatorship another cut duffy another sub them send them power it will not end up well for nobody. good to speak with you abdul aziz. joining us there from dublin thanks very much for being with us now let's take a look at what the turkish investigation which is supported by evidence has revealed so far jamal khashoggi entered the saudi consulate in istanbul on october second he was killed within seven minutes is body was dismembered in fifteen minutes the investigators were able to isolate isolate exactly where the murder
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happened there were traces of blood found that suggests a violent death or the mutilation of his body after death turkey sources say the this the team contacted the private security of crown prince mohammed bin sandman in saudi arabia four times during the window of time the crime was committed this suggests the crown prince was getting updates we also know that the consulate general was in the building during the time of the killing he left turkey just last week this narrative would suggest that the hit squad came to kill or to our ocean is a former member of parliament from turkey's ruling ak party and was chairman of the turkish parliament foreign affairs committee he's now research director at the ankara institute thanks very much for being with us so i want to ask you first of all about the version of events the latest version of events that's that's come from from saudi arabia through this reuters story this was seen as kind of an
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attempt to fill in the blanks but does it throw more questions than answers i mean i don't know what is the simplest of a or treating what so these are leaked to doing a couple of these i say the following the genie's out of the bottle and as you all know you cannot put it back but saudis are trying to invent another genie and put him back to bottle and expect and tired will to believe it. if they don't work it's shameless brazen incompetent corrupt. narrative and the world is not buying it because from the beginning it is inconsistent actually that this belief right now around the world actually made up by the saudis themselves because just just remember the episodes it's quite simple first they said jamal left the consulate it was
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a lie then they said that fifteen hits got fifteen people hit squad they were tourists it was a lie every single step what saudis claimed proven it was false information lie and right now they are coming up with a narrative too and a wall to believe it so there is this inconsistent to see constructed by the saudis themselves and there is no reason right now the any of any of us to believe what they are saying to us so when would we expect more details to emerge from the turkish investigate what we're hearing from justice department actually the minister himself and the ministers and even the president. truth be. official be hearing it i mean in couple of days actually that's that's what has been said since thursday so i am expecting beginning of this week we should be
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hearing the results of the investigation the prosecutor's office should come up. should make up the case and then accusations will start because that case will bring a kind of accusations because there is a. defenseless men killed. but you're not in the in the in the counselors and there should be some results out of it and we'll see it but the information that's been coming out from the turkish authorities through three leaks in there has been very kind of piecemeal and it's almost been sort of very strategically released you do expect more of that to happen. my knowledge of what there isn't much left about this case i mean. if you go with this line the following by almost all the journalistic w.'s answers we know who did it how did it when did it these are either very well known or
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very well known secrets so there is nothing much left regarding this to be to believed. other than this speculate of the report and it has been confirmed from many different sources that record exists to be released to be released to the public so that journalists and others can i think most of them is already written if not hurt the saudis are not in the position of denying it. it's also not just addictive decision but also article question do we all want to hear what happened during that killing and what saudis did right now is quite interesting thing i mean it started by the leak the saudis are going to they're preparing to admit that question is
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killed but what i say is i mean you cannot confirm and you cannot admit what you committed you can only confess. about what you committed we can confirm that you committed the crime and regarding being for addition it is also in possibility how could jamal be interested i mean you are interested people who do not talk about decision that issue jamal was talking so he cannot be i mean technically interested jamal killed because he was speaking good to speak with you. joining us the interview thanks very much now earlier u.s. president donald trump cast doubt on saudi arabia's explanations which have changed several times says he disappeared it told the washington post that quote obviously there's been deception and lies patika reports from washington. since the story
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first broke the jamal khashoggi had disappeared u.s. president had been fairly consistent sending the message that he didn't want to punish saudi arabia severely if it in fact turned out that they were involved but we are seeing the first signs that that might be changing in a late night interview with the washington post president donald trump said about this quote obviously there's been deceptions and there's been wise he was asked if it's possible that the saudi crown prince mohammed bin solomon could be involved and to that he said nobody has told me he's responsible nobody has told me he's not responsible we haven't reached that point i haven't heard either way now this comes after days of relentless pounding from critics and people within his own party that are demanding that president trump do more. trying to campaign on the west coast u.s. president donald trump couldn't get away from the questions about jamal khashoggi
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is murder it was pretty much all reporters asked about as for the saudi explanation the president had this response well i'm not satisfied until we find the answer but it was a big first step it was a good first step but i want to get to the answer he says that could come by tuesday but he again insisted that what is most important to him the money that saudi arabia spends in the u.s. the amounts of been changing over time one hundred ten billion four hundred fifty billion gets four hundred fifty thousand jobs four hundred fifty billion dollars six hundred thousand jobs it's over a million jobs but experts say those numbers are simply not true not accurate not even close the administration of the white house is operating on this false narrative that saudi arabia that we're dependent saudi arabia that saudi arabia has arms purchases support american industry that the that they we need them they don't need us that they could go someplace else that's not an accurate narrative and it
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isn't persuading saudis critics in congress. or in the press who are increasingly pointing the finger directly at the saudi crown prince mohammed bin psalm on the publisher of who should use former newspaper the washington post is accusing saudi arabia of trying to cover up his murder and the editorial board is urging people worldwide to shun saudi arabia intil the kingdom changes writing the first step in that process is determining the full truth about the coup shoji murder and holding its likely author mohammed bin solomon fully accountable for the vice president joe biden seemed to agree the rest of the world is watching the united states of america we have let the world and they're wondering where the hell are we what's become of us and now m.b.'s saudi arabia lardo my lord he's making excuses by the way you know that all
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expression some people bring a gun to a knife fight well you don't bring long saws to flights the anger shows no signs of abating this is the straw that broke the camel's back as far as the united states is concerned that these other incidents i think he's gotten a pass on. he's not going to get a pass on this. it seems the biggest question in washington now how big of a price could saudi have to pay one more indication of the president's thinking could be changing is we haven't seen jared kushner his senior advisor and son in law anywhere near him during these days where the story has dominated the headlines question or obviously has a close relationship with mohammed bin psalm on according to aides in the washington post the president is quite annoyed with his son in laws says he feels blindsided by the whole thing germany has described saudi arabia's explanation as inadequate and may reconsider its weapons sales to the kingdom chancellor angela
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merkel is demanding more information. well it's all these don't muddy those under let's look at the world and think about why we took to the streets in one thousand nine hundred nine we took to the streets because we wanted freedom of opinion freedom of press freedom of religion that lost those freedoms cannot be taken for granted all over the world take a look around you talking about saudi arabia and those terrible events which still haven't been cleared up yet and where we of course demand an explanation. a president trump has a lot to lose after saudi arabia's actions he's wanted a quick resolution his earlier comments suggested big steps were being taken to solve the investigation but now he's changed his tone he's doubtful and more critical of the kingdom world is looking for answers will the saudi investigation tell the whole story of how the body was really disposed of and where is it and who's responsible and then there's the position of the saudi government right now
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there is a blank order to bring back all saudi dissidents how how are foreign governments meant to deal with this order if they're hosting political asylum seekers and what about the american government and the turkish government how will they all move forward following such damning reaction from the international community community we're joining us now to talk about all of that journalist and author andrew finkel joins me now from istanbul via skype thanks very much for being with us so how should the u.s. government proceed then. well the u.s. government is clearly not be the key actor in this in this saga it's the turkish government and the saudi the texas government. has said that it will bring a full case to light it's already had a very carefully controlled plan really of leaking information through the media which it controls and it's managed to keep this terrible incident alive in and in
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the world's attention through a series of really very carefully and cleverly coordinated leaks about what happened inside that consulate on the second of october so we are sort of waiting for that the turkish prosecutor as it were to to make is that that if statement but in the meantime of course what what that the on her government is trying to do is is to really destroy the reputation of the saudi prince and to make it very difficult for the united states to support mohammed. in his. current leadership role. do you get the sense then that sam hamad bin sandman has become almost to talk sake not only for the international community but for the white house in a dealings with him particularly trump himself and his son in law question who we understand has developed quite a relationship with the crown prince. well clearly you don't need me to tell you
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that the white house is deeply embarrassed by what has happened it's tried to gloss over as much as it's possible the incident did space they said something clearly happened it's up to the saudis to come clear clean about it it's up to. the international investigators to to produce a definitive statement of what has actually happened they themselves that been reluctant to to cast the first stage. but as indeed as this saga continues as that is. that of the full horror of what might have happened continues to to emerge it does it become increasingly difficult for the white house to maintain this onslaught of support so it's clear they trying to come up with a plan b. . but all the indications from saudi arabia at this point odd that they are trying that they are trying to shield. bin salmen from all of this so
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what where do you see this going going forward. well clearly at some point there's going to be a showdown that is going to be are you know people are going to have to make up their minds is the united states as you say going to find the saudi leadership so toxic that they're going to have to appoint a new heir apparent or will they find some formula to to sweep this under the carpet and and and continue with business perhaps not quite as usual but but. really to backtrack on this says this is a very much depends on how much domestic pressure the united states comes under to change and alter its relationship with saudi arabia here that the europeans are already beginning to change their tune this new emphasis on the war and yemen you know the power of that. operation is suddenly become. much more
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newsworthy than it was even there of course senator. there is no reason why it should have been that i did not and talk about some of the their. fault lines are changing that talking at the ships are admitting that it's a question of really how whether incident can can i'm going to some extent can survive this and you think will could speak with you all in a moment we'll have the weather with kevin but still ahead on i just. israel planning to go ahead with the demolition of a bedouin village in the occupied west bank now the question is when. lewis hamilton closing in on a fifth world title as he clinches pole position for the u.s. going free joe we'll have all the details later in school.
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from the cable news sky of the doha morning. to the french autumn breeze in the city of the. well it was a very stormy day here on saturday here across parts of the gulf here in qatar i want to grow back the satellite and show you from friday what it actually looked like so let's move this forward and notice what happens as we go towards saturday where this big area of clouds now this area of clouds brought doha to a standstill normally this time of month we only see about one point one millimeters of rain for the whole month of october but yesterday we saw eighty four millimeters of rain falling for these clouds normally and a whole year we only receive about seventy five millimeters of rain into the higher entire year here across the region so this is what that much rain looks like in doha it brought a course roads submerged cars submerged and also on the highways many of the.
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traffic was brought to a standstill especially in the underpasses where that rain really accumulated and we also had problems in many buildings there's a city center mall where rain was actually the water was actually coming out of the ceiling so what does it look like well we're going to be seeing that rain push as it did overnight but unfortunately as we go towards sunday afternoon we expect to see more rain and showers start to build up across many parts of the area. there with sponsored by i can't time riis. on behalf of her majesty's government i apologize reservedly a historic apology for one of british intelligence his darkest episodes now there's a growing agreement that the libyans could be quite useful to the west seven years after the death of gadhafi al-jazeera world investigates western collusion with the libyan security services. gadhafi rendition and the west on
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al-jazeera. i am his story say for the bernese every weekly news cycle brings a series of breaking stories told through the eyes of the world's journalists these two voices journalists were one of the few journalists in baghdad that were actually doing investigative work joined the listening post as we turn the cameras on the media and focus on how they report on the stories that matter the most bias the rights to those stories but then he never publishes the stories they're listening post on al-jazeera. hello again you're watching i just need a reminder of our top stories this hour a saudi official has reportedly provided a new account of how
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a journalist was killed senior official told the reuters news agency has died after being put in a chokehold and having his mouth covered in its istanbul consulate day earlier the saudi government said he died during a fistfight. u.s. president donald trump had already been expressing doubts about saudi explanations which have changed several times he told the washington post obviously there's been deception and lines. of france germany the european union and the u.n. are calling for a credible transparent and in-depth investigation into the show just death. a mark when a key is a forensic biologist specializing in biological stains in crime cases he joins us live now from darmstadt in germany thanks very much for being with us so just talk us through some of the things that the investigators have been and will be looking
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at here in trying to build up a picture of what was behind all of this. if you want to do a criminalistic a sound investigation you can look at nearly everything including fabric if i was from fabric because you know they will go from one person to the other person so you know who had contacts to whom you can look at clean up the stains because cleaning up something also produce the stains and of course you will look at saliva and any other type of stain especially blood in this case so literally you look at everything even how the furniture is the ranged in the room just absolutely everything and from the accounts that we're getting to spin leaks through turkish media sources they were able they say to pinpoint exactly where each person was in the room and what may have happened is that is that something is possible does that fit in with with your experience of this. yes i do this very often and
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once you've got the stains you can try to get a spatial arrangement of everything because of course let's say a drop of blood can drop down as long as there is no impact but if you have an impact or somebody is sneezing sneezing or coughing or anything then of course the blood will distribute through the room and you can measure the angle of impact off the blood the same you can do that with saliva all of course but you can also do that with fabric as i said so at the end of the day it is quite likely that you get maybe not a millimeter like representation of everything that happens but quite a very good idea of where everybody was standing and who did what that is pretty normal in all cases especially if you have a closed room scenario like in this case because you know you can't walk through walls so that makes it easier as you said a lot of information has been trickling out about the investigation and the turkish
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version of events here but what what questions remain unanswered do you think what would what would you still be looking for tonsils for here. well being a stain expert it would be interesting for me to ask the guys from a forensic pathology what the victim really died of so as soon as you get the body parts or the corpse you can have a look at what really happens did the person at choke was it a six yes sharon was the person stepped or shot or was it something else so that makes it more easier or better john to stand out of the stains develop because obviously you can choke somebody and afterwards blood can get out of the body if you just several of the different body parts so it if you let's say you just find drop stains they could be from smashing
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a person into the face and then the blood is dripping down but if you find a person was stamped then you could as is there a vein would you expect that when to produce pressure to push the blood out of the body and so on and so on so as the expert i was i would as the other people which information do you have on the cause of death and then we will try to match this with the actual stains that that are in our department. good to speak with. us president donald trump says he's pulling out of a landmark nuclear weapons agreement with russia signed three decades ago russia's deputy foreign minister says a u.s. withdrawal from the deal would in his words be a very dangerous step trump says moscow is violating the terms. we're not going to let them violate the nuclear agreement and go out and do weapons and we're not allowed to we're the ones that have stayed in the agreement and we've honored the agreement but russia is not unfortunately under the agreement so we're going to
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terminate their agreement we're going to pull out. of trumps threats to withdraw from the agreement has triggered fears of a new arms race the treaty was agreed after a lengthy negotiations between the ronald reagan administration and the soviet union leader mikhail gorbachev back in one thousand nine hundred seventy eight bans the u.s. and russia from possessing producing or test flying missiles with a range of five hundred to five and a half thousand kilometers the u.s. has accused russia of deploying weapons that are banned under this agreement to intimidate european nations and former soviet states while russia says u.s. missile defenses violate the pact the u.s. withdrawal allows it to deploy new weapons reportedly to counter a chinese arms buildup in the pacific eleven people have been killed in a roadside bombing in afghanistan's nangarhar province the victims include a woman and six children the area is an eyesore stronghold of the attack follows
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saturday's parliamentary elections which were mobbed by violence and technical issues voting is still taking place in some areas at least forty five centers in the capital kabul have reopened the city was hardest hit in a series of taliban attacks as voting began twenty four hours ago vote counting is underway elsewhere shelob ellis has more from kabul. polls open here in afghanistan for a second day at seven o'clock this morning it's essentially a do over for the election commission after a myriad of issues yesterday five thousand polling centers were meant to open yesterday although many were delayed some did not open once or if the biometric machines were not working voter lists were sent to the old provinces in some instances so they've reopened four hundred polling seems is for a second day as a chance to rectify some of those mistakes and allow us to get out to vote late last night as the election commission said that they had a turnout of approximately three million afghans out of about nine million who had
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registered to vote they are hoping hoping by opening for a second day that they can get that number up to approximately four million keeping in mind there are still two provinces to vote now turnout is quite good keeping in mind the security issues yesterday ministry of interior said that they had one hundred and ninety two attacks across the country from the taliban taliban saying that they would a tech on election day they see the elections as an extinction of american influence in afghanistan they really didn't want them to go ahead they wanted to disrupt them and they tried their best in the techs across the country the feeling in afghanistan after day one a lot of afghans are very proud that they had voted that they knew that they were entering dangerous territory simply by going to a polling center and yes they did it anyway which is great news for president danny that he did get this turnout of three million and after today hoping to get that number even higher. israel's prime minister says a plan to demolish
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a palestinian village in the occupied west bank will go ahead benjamin netanyahu says he will follow a court decision this point international condemnation. will be a vote created this is the court's decision this is all policy it will be carried out have no intention to postpone it until further notice contrary to publications the cabinet will set a timetable familiar shouting in their vote creation. and that's when yahoo statement followed reports in israeli media that the evacuation of more had been postponed as the tash of the name reports now harlan ahmad is just one of forty six bedouin villages in line for demolition. the israelis seized their land the livestock is gone and these multi-story concrete buildings have replaced tents twenty one years after being forced out of their homes these men say all they have left are memories of their bedouin way of life.
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we lost the freedom we had the life we lived we still suffer till this day we live in a place that was imposed upon us what was once the bedouin community of el mirage is now home to one of the largest illegal israeli settlements in the west bank this was demolished in one thousand nine hundred ninety seven. how would someone push you out of your home like thugs it's a difficult feeling. it's a feeling the families of our will likely experiences while the israeli army plans to move them here. they'll be forced to adapt from a generations long tradition of raising cattle to a kind of urban living. was beautiful by that life it was simple the old the young the girls tended to the life stock we used to cover a lot of the local palestinian market whether it was cheese yogurt or milk bedouins
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are tied to their land but this land is putting more than eighty one hundred people in the west bank at risk of forcible transfer according to the u.n. the majority are refugees more than half are children math expert effect says forty six bedouin communities are standing in the way of israeli expansion that will divide the west bank there is no going to continue with you there is no going to the state in the same thing. that's why these notoriously closed bedouin communities have been coaxed into the spotlight men. i believe they're one of the last lines of defense protecting any hope of a palestinian state. dizzier a bell in the occupied west bank australia's prime minister says he won't call an
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early election despite his coalition government government likely to lose its parliamentary majority in parliament the senior party in scott morrison's ruling coalition has conceded defeat in a by election in a sydney seat that was earlier held by former leader malcolm turnbull are the votes are still being counted and official results won't be known for days thousands of migrants making their way north from central america to the u.s. remain determined to continue their journey despite some setbacks they're fleeing violence and poverty in honduras john homan has more from mexico's southern border . it would be the is always a way through migrants heading to the united states a fund of same and so it proved this time around by river thousands of people in a controversial caravan from honduras made it into mexico right under the gaze of police who blocked off the bridge with guatemala they crowded on to small rafts which usually ferry locals and goods across the river they say like many others
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comes dreaming of a new start for herself and her full month old daughter again game of yellowstone looming with enough money i hope to get to the u.s. and that trumps conscience's touched not for as but for the children who go hungry . the president trump is instead demanding that the caravan be stopped before it gets to the us keeping pressure on the mexican government off the ceiling of the border bridge authorities said they reviewed migrants cases one by one to check if they qualified for asylum here it's excruciating the slow but some waited amid a certain amount of chaos here it does seem that people are around for the long haul based trucks handing out food and water and on the other side you can see people have hung up atop pulled in to try and protect themselves from the sun and there's even clothes hung up against the railing of the bridge to try. to some the
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