but experts say those numbers are simply not true not accurate not even close to the administration the white house is operating on this false narrative that saudi arabia that we all depend on saudi arabia that saudi arabia's arms purchases support american industry that they know that they we need them they don't need us that they can go someplace else that's not an accurate narrative and it isn't persuading saudis critics in congress or in the press who are increasingly pointing the finger directly at the saudi crown prince mohammed bin psalm on the publisher of who should use former newspaper the washington post is accusing saudi arabia of trying to cover up his murder and the editorial board is urging people worldwide to shun saudi arabia intil the kingdom changes writing the first step in that process is determining the full truth about the coup shoji murder and holding its likely author mohammed bin solomon fully accountable for the vice president joe biden

seemed to agree the rest of the world is watching the united states of america we have let the world and they're wondering where the hell are we what's become of us and now m.b.'s saudi arabia well i know my lord he's making excuses by the way you know that all expression some people bring a gun to a knife fight where you don't bring your own saws to flights the anger shows no signs of abating this is the straw that broke the camel's back as far as united states is concerned that these other incidents i think he's gotten a pass on. he's not going to get a pass on this. it seems the biggest question in washington now how big of a price could saudi have to pay pedicle again al-jazeera washington. vice president joe biden speaking at that rally making very clear one important

point this has become an election issue those midterm elections are looming a matter of weeks ago president trump well aware he needs to get on the right side of this and this is perhaps why he took this unusual step of telephoning the washington post for that twenty minute interview to change his story all right mike thanks for that mike hanna in washington so as you've been hearing there president trump has a lot to lose following saudi arabia's actions he wanted a quick resolution his earlier comments suggested big steps were being taken to solve the investigation but now as we've been hearing he's changed his tone dow for and more critical of the kingdom now the world is looking for answers will the saudi investigation tell the whole story of how the body was really disposed of where is it and who's responsible and what about the position of the saudi government right now there is a blanket order to bring back all saudi dissidents how are foreign governments

meant to deal with this order if they're hosting political asylum seekers and what about the american government and the turkish government how will they all move forward after such damning reaction from the international community well let's speak now to abraham frye had to joins me now on the set is a professor of conflict resolution at the doha institute thanks very much for being with us so a lot of questions there let's start then with the international community and and how they will be responding to this particular after the latest saudi version of events which would seem to throw more questions than answers again that's correct the financial community seems actually united on the issue of the especially in europe. the action not buying the story of the of the multiple versions of the story that came out from officials over the past few. x.

probably the only area where we do not see this unity exist actually is in the within the us administration which is again we are seeing a split within the white house and the establishment and by this i was not referring particularly to the senate house where we are seeing a very united strong senate position on demanding the full truth of what happened to the washington and we are seeing a president that he is going to the contradicting himself at some point he is saying that we should not subject the arms sales to any risk as a result of this and of the same time he goes back and says that i'm not satisfied with the sound of it john of the evidence of what happened so this is actually his efficient contradiction within the white house within trump himself giving multiple different positions is i think more confusion to the american position on on this and how to respond to the the tension the struggle continues within the u.s.

administration while the rest of the international community particularly europe seems united between france germany and britain denmark as well you know they all seem to have a similar position on that let's talk about the turks then as as this investigation continues are we likely to hear more details that will further contradict the saudi version of events and by extension put further pressure on that's correct actually keep in mind that the. story from the turkish government has not yet all what we have been dealing with for the past three weeks is mostly about the leaks that coming from sometimes. those other times coming from media reports and so the position has not been clear it seems that they have a lot to say about this because especially after the last position was. by saudi

arabia. that he was killed in a fist fighting then called we had some statements coming from uncut are saying that we are going to the clear of the full the truth the whole truth about what happened so that we see we there seems to be some new alignment between the between the turkish position of the south the position which is by the way contrary to what we were told to believe about two three days ago actually when king so man spoke with the president or the. it was positive there was said that to be that both you know on the same page but that's does not seem to be the key is as we have seen more statements from ankara suggesting otherwise and that's why we should watch this carefully and if we hear a whole different story or some mean contradicting elements of the turkish investigations actually we we could be going back to the square one terms of how

the story is and where we go from there all the indications from saudi right now from the official statement that was put out a couple of days ago that the man now it's the arrests of various people and then the senior official who spoke to reuters the giving another version of stories all this all points to shielding crown prince mohammed bin sandman from any responsibility for this yet the sense is that he has become he has become toxic for for for countries to deal with so where does this leave us then if they are protecting him the saudis have not been managing this well actually it has been very poor management in terms of for at the almost eighteen there is insisting that he lift the counsellor. the whereabouts will not mourn. so that was not convincing twenty one and then coming after it in theirs with the whole story of you know the. as a result of fist fight thing and now this is another version of the story this is

not hoping this out as it's not helping convincing the word actually more or creating more pressure because now it is the since that is a lot of you know deception you know the lying about the whole thing because the elements of the story are not that this is a clear thing momentum. about about what really happened that this moment the more pressure to the south and so i think of this point is the best way to go about it is that for the so there's a store and those the that you have to give a convincing something you know that of the elements that. really present what happened and cooperate with the international community and that's i think the best approach for everyone ibrahim fran thanks very much for your answer. now the new york times has detailed a campaign by saudi arabia to identify and silence dissidents online according to

the paper twitter fired any employee they believed was spying for saudi arabia ali . was asked by sat by intelligence operatives to access personal information of activists including ip addresses and phone numbers since returned home as is and is now working for the government kingdom also had a consulting firm tracked the social media response to its economic reforms three users were identified as driving much of the negative response one was arrested and another had family members imprisoned and a third accounts which was anonymous was shut down in saudi arabia has cracked down on the crown prince mohammed bin sandman's rule jailing women's activists and government critics. well mark owen jones is here he research is bots and social media campaigns in the middle east at hamad bin university thanks very much for being with us and what do you make of this story then i think it's perhaps

unsurprising if you know the regional context i think if you are an authoritarian government it would behoove you to place someone within the social media company itself that would give you the best access in terms of intelligence and other things so i don't think it's surprising at all i think what's very interesting is that these revelations are coming about now and i think it's important that twitter specifically follow up and pursue this rigorously. there was a sense. in the era before. crown prince had been said that many saudis can't felt free to kind of express themselves on twitter more particularly on social issues and and so on but it does seem that that has that climate change now i mean i would certainly say that. i've been looking at but propaganda now for about two years i've been looking at the social media climate in the gulf since two thousand and eleven i would say that there's

a lot of attention now on. censorship on social media in the go but i would say this is always existed but have been and demick in the arabic to disappear for at least two years and they were prevalent last year at the qatar crisis on a level we haven't even seen in the history of the case so i would certainly say i would disagree that there was this kind of openness i don't think it really truly existed i think what is happening now is being really tested. just explain to us for those who might not be familiar with that about bots and how they work particularly in from your research in in the gulf yes so about is essentially a piece of software code or tweets about is a twitter account that looks like a real person but it's automated now the reason why you'd create bots is fairly straightforward you can create a lot of them and they're run on automatic basis and what they can do is manipulate twitter trends so for example if you're the saudi government and you see something

critical is trending on twitter and you don't want that to be trending you could authorize about to tweet on a hash tag a benign hash tag so we've seen a lot of these the past few days things like a message of love from mom had been sound or we have faith in mom had been summoned and the bots could tweet on this hash tag making that more popular was pushing down the critical trends similarly if you're looking for information about who should be or saudi in general you search on twitter and there's lots of bot spreading propaganda it's going to be harder for you to find critical information so the main purpose of course is to dilute credible information and to pollute hashtags and all in all to spread propaganda prevent people accessing useful real information in a sense it's one of the phenomena of fake news so how do you can't counter that is there a way to counter that there's a number of ways to counter that this is i think the big problem we have in the middle east what it's way to doing to actually stop this problem because it is a huge problem and it's been going on in saudi for several years so what we need

from twitter in my opinion is we need to know how are they going to improve the verification system because if you have a solid verification system that screens people when they sign up to their accounts then you can know that there are people and not bots however twitter strangely enough have said whilst they are working on a new verification system they're putting on hold because they are focusing on tackling fake news whereas in my opinion if you actually tackle the verification problem you're halfway that. news that something important needs to be done secondly when you talk to these influences on social media on twitter who are driving these conversations if twitter insists on operating in an authoritarian country the poor human rights record they need to do better due diligence so in my opinion i don't think it's censorship to sense a counselor harassing people if they do something in an environment where people are imprisoned or killed for exercising their freedom of speech and how do you balance this whole you know social responsibility versus the need to make money

that whole dynamic i think that is a good question but as far as i'm concerned the social responsibility will always trump the need to make money so if there is a compromise that needs to be made it has to be done in favor of the social responsibility and the moral obligation to has good to speak with you mark thank you very much. now the rest of the day's news coming up on al-jazeera afghanistan's elections go into a second day off the violence and technical glitches. a long journey north thousands of refugees and migrants face obstacle after obstacle as they make their way through towards the u.s. and lewis hamilton closes in on a fifth world title as he clenches proposition for the u.s. grand prix joe will have all the details in sport. and his story say for the birth of these people every week brings

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well again your watch. a reminder of our top stories this hour saudi official has provided a new accounts of the country's explanation for the death of journalist jamal khashoggi senior official told reuters that she died at the hands of a fifteen man gets caught after being put in a choke hold in its consulate the panic followed so with the help of a local collaborator they dumped his body details of the turkish investigation are continuing to emerge investigators found traces of blood confirming suspicions of a violent death or mutilation of. al jazeera has learned from turkish sources that

the team had contacted crown prince mohammed bin man four times during the incident . u.s. president donald trump has been expressing doubts now about saudi arabia's recent explanations which have changed several times he told the washington post quote obviously there's been deception and lies a day earlier trying to describe saudi arabia story as credible so in other news donald trump says he is pulling out of a landmark nuclear weapons agreement with russia signed three decades ago russia's deputy foreign minister says a u.s. withdrawal from the deal would be in his words of a very dangerous step but trump says russia is violating the terms. we're not going to let them violate a nuclear agreement and go out and do weapons and we're not allowed to we're the ones that have stayed in the agreement and we've honored the agreement but russia is not one fortunately under the agreement so we're going to terminate their bravery we're going to pull out our trump threat to withdraw from the agreement has

triggered fears of a new arms race the treaty was agreed after lengthy negotiations between the ronald reagan administration and soviet union leader mikhail gorbachev in the last few minutes gorbachev himself has criticized the trumpet ministration plan calling it very strange the one thousand nine hundred seven treaty bans the u.s. and russia from processing producing or test flying missiles with a range of five hundred to five and a half thousand kilometers trump is accusing russia of deploying weapons banned under that agreement to intimidate european nations and former soviet states russia says u.s. missile defenses violate the pact the u.s. withdrawal would allow it to deploy new weapons with reports saying it may look to counter a chinese arms buildup in the pacific when he is a nuclear expert who's a senior fellow at the james martin center for nonproliferation studies he thinks

trump is acting hastily. fortunately bull's-eye has never been able to sit down all because they were going next for discussion technical were all all the result of the orse if you do diplomacy well it speakers will those agree with you know. or so we're going to say it was all good demise of the street you learned. they would say that the trouble we're going to stray she really rushed into we're going to treat. eleven people have been killed in a roadside bombing in afghanistan's nangarhar province the victims include a woman and six children the area is an eyesore stronghold that's after saturday's parliamentary elections which were marred by violence at least forty five people were killed and two hundred twenty injured in several taliban attacks across the

country technical issues with a biometric registration system also caused problems more than forty centers were reopened in the capital kabul on sunday to allow further ballots to be cast a vote counting is underway elsewhere in the country for more on this let's bring in political analyst. in kabul thanks very much for being with us so a number of challenges there are there for these elections across afghanistan problems with the machines obviously the security situation how would you have said assess the way things have gone at this point. well yeah there have been many challenges from technical challenges to security challenges but what it's of parliament importance for us in afghanistan is the very idea of afghanistan's success to organize elections you know that afghanistan is

a country that the seized by violence by terrorists and by the insurgency almost. more than half of the country is being threatened or controlled by insurgents so then who had such pervasive flavella threat the fact that. we in afghanistan managed to organize elections and we had. huge turnout of the people. to vote and take part in the electorate plus process itself was a major success for the country. when all of the when all of the votes were counted and the winners announced how legitimate. will it be how many how legitimate will the their election victories be given that there were all of these problems and many people were prevented. from voting or having their vote counted. oh well it's premature to talk about the

legitimacy of the results at this estate's because we don't have. facts about the level of fraud or the level of error giller out irregularities but again you know i guess the backdrop of extensive threats and extensive in the state ballot in that country the very idea of having a new parliament and i believe that a lot of. room for sentence in the next parliament are going to be the youngsters i think it's going to be a major success it's again i would like to repeat that it's premature to talk about the legitimacy of the results at this stage how confident can the can the afghan people will be in this government. with all of the security challenges of the moment and the fact that these these elections are taking place now were actually

supposed to happen three years ago. had to be delayed because of the problems with security. yes it was delayed because of the problems of security and because of the problems of political instability and also because of the fact that the two thousand and fourteen elections presidential elections in afghanistan was marred by deep. and fraud some reforms were introduced and the electoral system. you know this parliamentary election was a test of the introduction of the new systems and reforms and its results and also to test whether the security forces will be able to. organize or secure elections or secure basically the organization of the elections the fact that elections took place and a lot of people managed to vote it's

a positive step and more importantly it paves the way for organizations of elections presidential elections which is due to take place in early two thousand nine hundred. good to speak with you. from joining us in much the israel's prime minister says a plan to demolish a palestinian village in the occupied west bank will go ahead israeli media have reported that the plan to demolish holodomor had been perspire and benjamin netanyahu says he's abiding by an israeli court decision on a lot more you from the soft little bit will be effectuated this is the court's decision this is all policy it will be carried out have no intention to postpone it until further notice contrary to publications the cabinet will set a timetable for negotiating over creation ahana lamarr is just one of more than forty bedouin villages in line for demolition natascha her name reports from one of

them. the israelis seized their land the livestock is gone and these multi-story concrete buildings have replaced tents twenty one years after being forced out of their homes these men say all they have left are memories of their bedouin way of life. we lost the freedom we had the life we lived we still suffer till this day we live in a place that was imposed upon us what was once the bedouin community of us is now home to one of the largest illegal israeli settlements in the west bank this was demolished in one nine hundred ninety seven. how would someone push you out of your home like thugs it's a difficult feeling. it's a feeling the families of hono will likely experience as while the israeli army plans to move them here. they'll be forced to adapt from

a generations long tradition of raising cattle to a kind of urban living. was beautiful by that life it was simple the old the young the girls tended to the life stock we used to cover a lot of the local palestinian market whether it was cheese yogurt or milk bedouins are tied to their land but this land is putting more than eighty one hundred people in the west bank at risk of forcible transfer according to the u.n. the majority are refugees more than half are children math expert effect says forty six bedouin communities are standing in the way of israeli expansion that will divide the west bank there is no going to. the state. that's why these notoriously closed bedouin communities have been coaxed into the

spotlight many believe they are one of the last lines of defense protecting any hope of a palestinian state. in the occupied west bank. thousands of refugees and migrants have crossed the guatemalan border into mexico they're part of a group of people from honduras el salvador and guatemala who are walking north towards the united states they're escaping violence and poverty back home donald trump warned he'll deploy the military to stop them crossing the southern u.s. border john heilemann is walking with them and joins me live now from southern mexico so john just tell us where you are right now and what's happening there there were between the cities of see that it does go and tapachula but what we've heard and what the migrate migrants now know is coming up ahead is

a big federal police presence they blocked off the road ahead and they're hoping to contain this caravan a bit further on so i think what's happening now is they're just stopping to get a breather earlier on there were people with megaphones just telling them to link hands to try and keep together as much as possible and try and get through this we've been talking to several of the people in the caravan and they've just been telling us there's nothing really for us back home we have not enough jobs even the jobs that there are around don't pay enough to live on we've really got no option but to carry on and try and get further north most of these are trying to get to the united states but would take mexico and they've already broken through a certain amount of police presence trying to block off the port a bridge between guatemala and mexico they did that just by going under the river so they feel that they can just keep going get through whatever's in front of them and john obviously it's been widely reported what president trump has said about

this that he will do everything to make sure that they don't cross into the u.s. border talk about deploying the military there are people there where many of that are now are they deter deterred by it at all. they're definitely aware of it i mean they were aware even before this of president trump's general sorts of hostility to undocumented migration but they're also aware of his tweet i think the for them it hasn't changed that much but at they still determined that they're going to carry on their way to exchange for it's the government's own group the mexican government at the moment and the guatemalan and from doing government to fool them because president trump has also threatened to cut aid to central america now it's a problem for the mexican government and that explains the heavy police presence that we're going to see up ahead they really don't want to get on the side of the u.s. president they've been trying everything they can to sort of contain this up to the point where they said that they'll be offering migrants

a possibility of asylum inmates cover of you in the cases of a one by one basis but that was excruciating least slow when that process started and i think the migrants just decided to just keep going. john heilemann live for us there in southern mexico thanks john our time for the weather has kevin that's right we've had a lot of story weather here across the gulf and it is not done yet we're actually. we're not done yet with the stormy weather i want to show what's been happening i roll the satellite back about twenty four hours so we're going to start here on friday actually forty eight hours put this into motion for you and watch what has been happening across much of the gulf where we've had plenty of moisture all we needed was some lift and that's exactly what we got here across doha so take a look what we see in terms of rain normally for the month of october we would only see one point one millimeter of rain yesterday we saw eighty four millimeters rain out of this one thunderstorm in the streets were flooded normally for the whole

year in qatar we would see a seventy five so we were well above our yearly average and even today we've seen about thirty three thirty millimeters of rain just in the northern part of qatar now this is what it did look like yesterday dealing with the rain some of these pictures coming in across the area a lot of the streets were flooded traffic was down to a standstill the airport had cancelled flights as well that had to be diverted and many locations were seeing water coming through their roofs even here at the network we were dealing with water problems our own but today even more activity here across the region more thunderstorms are popping up across much of the area you can see right there across the northern part of qatar and we do expect tomorrow possibly to see some more but after that as we go towards tuesday we expect to see much clearer and drier weather as heaven hour fifty eight people have been killed and dozens more injured during a communal violence in northern nigeria fighting between two groups broke out after a dispute at a market in a town in the state of could do nothing twenty two people have been arrested curfew

has been imposed to try to calm things down at least seventeen people have been killed in a train derailment in northeastern taiwan local rail officials saying several carriages overturned in ulan county on a coastal railway popular with tourists at least one hundred twenty six passengers have been injured. australia's prime minister says he will not call an early election despite his coalition government likely losing its majority in parliament the senior party in scott morrison is ruling coalition has conceded defeat in a byelection receiver in a sydney scene that was held by former leader malcolm turnbull but i vote still being counted an official results won't be known for days now since coming to office donald trump has been working to reverse u.s. health care policies brought in by his predecessor barack obama but now candidates from his republican party are coming on to put pressure to protect those measures

ahead of upcoming midterm elections john hendren spoke to one self-employed couple struggling struggling with huge health care bills in the state of indiana. adam and trisha brand are healthy successful entrepreneurs and they pay more for health insurance each month than for their home currently we are paying about two hundred dollars a month that buys them care but with this stratospheric deductible that means they pay the first fourteen thousand dollars so in recent years that has meant paying for little ovens broken arm two thousand dollars for operations to insert tubes invaders and sullivan's ears ten to fourteen thousand for trisha's root canal one thousand for adams appendectomy most of twenty thousand dollars. and they worry that if congress or the courts remove protections for preexisting conditions insurers will no longer.