president trump has said he's waiting for all full information from her g. the hospital has been fully briefed it is reported by her turkish counterpart she will have all the information that president trump needs to take a decision as to how the u.s. should react to the death of jamal khashoggi. despicable that's what donald trump is calling a series of suspected mail bombs they were sent to prominent democratic politicians and the offices of c.n.n. talk it simply did bill and hillary clinton barack obama and the billionaire george soros kristen salumi reports. one of the packages was addressed barack obama in washington d.c. it was discovered on wednesday morning the night before a package was discovered addressed to hillary clinton's residence in upstate new york both devices were intercepted during routine security screenings at a rally in florida clinton expressed her gratitude we are fine thanks to the men

and women of the secret service. who intercepted. the package addressed to us long before it made its way to our home a third device addressed to former cia director john brennan did reach c.n.n. studios in new york that led to an evacuation of the time warner center including the anchors who were broadcasting at the time all three packages are reported to have contained explosives and shards of glass as did others discovered in florida and los angeles the ongoing investigation didn't stop president trump or thousands of his supporters from attending a rally in this concert or. the president address the attempted attacks first thing and he actually threats of political violence are to attack on our democracy itself. no nation can

succeed that tolerates violence or the threat of violence as a method of political intimidation coersion or control we all know that it was an uncharacteristically conciliatory tone for the president compared to rallies past democratic leaders have accused the president telling violence in iraq. he's like this whether it's praising a congressman body slammed a reporter encouraging supporters attack testers but supporters here see things very differently you know strong rhetoric i'm a leftist generating all the. i. i don't know i don't flame from for that the senior democrats and just let the fanatics take over the party i use the democratic friends and we would discuss things can't do that and i think we're going through a period of time right now but i don't think it's going to last so i don't really blame anybody specifically no blame for the president from this crowd of loyal

supporters but then it's those middle of the road swing voters who could make the difference in two weeks' time kristen salumi al jazeera mohseni wisconsin. and strikes by the saudi embassy led coalition of targeted a farmer's markets in yemen is what they'd up profits the rebel media say the ball miss fell on a vegetable packing factory killing at least twenty one people in the town of beit ofac he which is about one hundred fifty kilometers south of the capital some are mine other people were injured yemeni officials say the coalition is preparing for another assault on the rebel held port city of data. a weather update next here on al-jazeera then i have come. to the healthy it's how it's helping to address a sensitive and controversial issue in belgium. and she is a health crisis in one of iraq's biggest cities as the water treatment system there

collapses. hello there we've got cool air this digging its way across europe now is the leading edge of it this huge area of cloud here that's also bringing us a fair amount of wet weather to that system will continue eastwards there as we head through into thursday still some rather heavy downpours then over parts of russia and certainly not feeling that warm behind it yet more unsettled weather is working its way in from stockholm all the way through parts of poland there and as that works its way eastwards as we head through friday it will be breaking up but only to be replaced by yet more wet weather so generally the northern parts of europe now looking cooler moral some no really and fairly unsettled down towards the southeast it's cooler here for some of us to twenty one may in athens only nine in ankara and towards the west where we're at twenty one in madrid but there is

a good deal of cloud here and that's also affecting us across the other side of the mediterranean as well so if a thursday then the main focus of that system is in the western parts of morocco but it's working its way northward and surface more of us in morocco them will see that what where they come friday towards the east it largely fine and dry first here twenty seven so fairly decent temperature wise they are but the temperatures easing now in cairo a maximum just of twenty six is expected on friday it will feel a good deal cooler than it has been of late.

well again the main news this hour on al-jazeera several members of congress in the u.s. have introduced the legislation which could end arms sales and aid to saudi arabia this in response to the killing of the journalist. in the saudi consulate in istanbul saudi arabia's crown prince mohammed bin has spoken publicly for the first time about. he described it as painful and said that justice will prevail the washington post is reporting that the head of the cia has heard audiotape capturing

the moment that she was killed. an explosive devices and other suspicious packages been sent to top u.s. democratic politicians and the offices of c.n.n. bill and hillary clinton former president barack obama and billionaire george soros were among those targeted. u.n. investigators say that raw hinge of muslims in myanmar continue to face genocide calling it a human rights catastrophe the head of the united nations fact finding mission on me and told the u.n. security council that up to four hundred thousand who remain in myanmar face severe restrictions and repression diplomatic editor james base reports. i think it was the meeting they tried to stop russia china and bolivia voting to attempt to block a briefing by the un zone fact finding mission on myanmar china said it was an

internal issue here were even though over seven hundred thousand people fled the country into bangladesh to escape the violence russia said the report of the mission was biased and unreliable even though it runs to four hundred forty pages of searing testimony as the security council veto doesn't apply to procedural matters the chairman of the fact finding mission was eventually able to give his damning conclusions our report characterizes the recent events in the right hand third as a human rights catastrophe there which will see able and plan one that will have severe impact well many generations to come if not for ever. the details of the report clearly had an impact on some i never thought in my diplomatic career that i would hear a briefing to the security council as compelling that detail being such awful

treatment of peoples as we have it today the u.k. was one of the european countries suggesting the situation be referred to the international criminal court that won't happen because in that case a security council veto could and almost certainly would be used bart an investigation into the crime of forced expulsion is a possibility because the country so many people fled to bangladesh has signed up to the court's jurisdiction james bays al-jazeera at the united nations iraq's new prime minister has been sworn in adult he has been under pressure to form a diverse government armament has been voting on his proposed cabinet and m.p.'s have agreed on more than a dozen ministers including the heads of the oil and finance departments under iraq's constitution shias sunnis kurds and other minorities must all be represented

meanwhile doctors say that two and a half million people are at risk of disease in iraq's main port city of basra poor water supplies a crumbling sanitation system a fueling new fears about the crisis the oil rich region has seen months of protests against government corruption and a serious rob matheson reports. basra is threaded with waterways along which trade has flowed for generations but not now. pictures from the norwegian refugee council show canals choked by garbage and beneath the piles of trash water is saturated with salt. in the second edition are shared the bin mentality when the water first became salty my brother got poisoned he stayed in the hospital for two days there are too many cases of poisoning it's not only one or two thousands of people that poisoned. upstream dams in turkey syria and iran are blamed for reducing fresh

water supplies to a trickle salt water from the gulf has been edging northwards for decades now bassos top water is on drink coble it can't even be used for washing schoolchildren are among tens of thousands of iraqis who fall in ill health getting down roots and our schools have only one place with toilets we always ask the students to bring their own water from home because we have many poisoning cases i've dealt with five or six cases of extreme vomiting you should see it cause most of my friends can't come to school because of the salty water they have been poisoned some of them got each a skin and some of them got issues with their hair years of frustration with the struggling water an electrical supply is finally exploded in september. with days of deadly protests against government corruption which residents blame for the city's collapsing infrastructure and widespread unemployment despite a visit by hide the body the prime minister at the time and parliamentary promises

that things would improve little seems to have changed doctors and aid agencies are worried that as the weather gets cooler the risk from water borne diseases such as cholera is rising in the coming days and in the coming weeks when the temperature will be between thirty two and thirty seven is just very likely that the euro will hear we are expecting rates if nothing is done to rehabilitate to moderate some additional interest sources. sits on top of much of iraq's oil wealth and peace in baghdad last year named the city iraq's economic capital but the people who live here say their water supply needs to stop poisoning them rob matheson al-jazeera. thousands of central american migrants mostly from honduras of pressing on with long trek across mexico towards the u.s. they're now in southern mexico and still have more than sixteen hundred kilometers

ahead of them the full reaching the u.s. border they will trump as well that they won't be allowed to enter the country illegally. u.s. vice president mike pence is accused venezuela of funding the migrant caravan a claim the president nicolas maduro rejects. and on the whole you want to see that the man see that this caravan is being financed by venezuela by president nicolas maduro and it nineteen to the security and defeats of the united states i don't know why the first thing it causes is laughter and the second is concern because the imperialist paranoia begins to accuse the president the durata and been as wily of everything that happens to be. the largest nato war games since the one nine hundred eighty s. are beginning in norway troops from thirty one countries have weeks of military exercises ahead of them a month after russian and chinese forces had their largest have a joint drills. topless reports now from trondheim. they've been arriving in norway

since august for the biggest exercises nato has wrong since the end of the cold war soldiers from every nato country plus finland and sweden i had to train for the next war called trident juncture the maneuvers take place across most of scandinavia involving fifty thousand troops two hundred fifty aircraft sixty five naval ships including the harry s. truman aircraft carrier and ten thousand military vehicles the exercises come at a time when the alliance is facing fierce criticism from an american administration that is frustrated with fellow members are not pulling their weight i think that nato was not doing what they were supposed to be doing a lot of the countries and we were doing much more than we should have been doing frankly we were carrying too much of a burden that's why we call it burden sharing president trump was especially critical of germany but the senior nato partner is the war game's biggest contributor with eight thousand of its troops participating. in these high visibility exercises and not just about training they're designed to bolster

nervous alliance members especially those bordering russia. and with good reason russia held two huge military war games over the last two years or west in two thousand and seventeen and vostok or east. earlier this year involving three hundred thousand soldiers the wolfing netas current exercise. with this pressure on the alliance at a time of rising regional geopolitical tension natives nervous allies will be looking to try conjuncture for reassurance topless or to zero a trying time norway malta is the only country in the european union with a total ban on abortion despite being liberal in many ways the predominantly catholic island in the mediterranean maintains a hardline but it's need barker reports now from the capital for latter maltese playwright is challenging the law in his first place to discuss the subject openly . you get to pray for the so it's a day in rehearsal the cast of

a new play called determining. if each is seven characters male and female or based on interviews with people on both sides of the theist abortion debate. where he. writes to. the writer hopes fears it will help tackle a subject few are willing to discuss in public this is the most delicate subject and. nothing else and we discuss politics we discuss migration we've got hot on the collar where it comes to abortion we simply don't discuss it it's you know there are no shades of gray it's black and white. not her real name travel to the u.k. for an abortion following an unplanned pregnancy the only people when you are to try to have made best friends how aware are you of other women in similar situations or who have gone through similar things here in bolton so many.

six of my. close friends it's probably much more common than we think pilar was able to borrow money to pay for her abortion others don't have a choice despite the human rights groups say the island's abortion rates are no different to countries where it's legal we are pretty much in the rest of the world now it's just a matter of it's just because it's utter bull. and that was another issue reason as to why we feel that this needs to be because women should not continue living in shaking and fear despite malta strict stance on abortion in recent years there have been a series of seismic social and cultural changes here divorce was legalized in two thousand and eleven rights equivalent to marriage had been given to gay couples and contraception is no longer frowned upon but when it comes to abortion there are ethical and. moral reservations that have an awful lot to do with tradition and

religious beliefs. ninety eight percent of multis are roman catholics the church prohibits abortion many are devout believers such as the island's former finance minister we see fundamentally a child in the name of a mother as a human being a fully human being that needs to be respected there is something ingrained in the maltese population that value life from the from the real beginning from conception multi societies undergone major change in recent years but abortion remains to blue too sensitive a subject for successive governments to risk losing votes over or even openly discuss i have come. to be clear this play is attempting to widen the debate beyond the stage. for letter malta.

it is good to have you with us adrian fitting in here in doha the top stories on house there are several members of congress in the us have introduced new legislation calling for an end to arms sales and aid to saudi arabia it's in response to the killing of the journalist. in the saudi consulate in istanbul meanwhile saudi's crown prince mohammed bin solomon has spoken publicly for the first time about the murder he called it painful and said that justice will prevail . explosive devices and other suspicious packages were sent to top u.s. democratic politicians and the offices of c.n.n. bill and hillary clinton the former president barack obama and billionaire george soros were among those targeted donald trump said those responsible for the bombs will be prosecuted. the federal government is conducting an aggressive investigation and we will find those responsible and we will bring them to justice

hopefully very quickly. and he actually threats of political violence are an attack on our democracy itself. no nation can succeed that tolerates violence or the threat of violence as a method of political intimidation coersion or control we all know that such conduct must be fiercely opposed and firmly prosecuted. israeli airstrikes have hit eight locations in southern gaza the israeli military says that its jets targeted how massed positions in response to rocket fire sirens sounded and explosions were heard in areas near the gaza border late on wednesday evening. u.n. investigators say that the hinge muslims in myanmar are still facing genocide at

the head of the un's fact finding mission on myanmar told the security council that up to four hundred thousand who are still in myanmar face severe restrictions and repression there's the headlines the news continues here on al-jazeera after today's edition of inside story next. al jazeera. and to. saudi arabia pressured into providing more answers about the killing of jamal for children for the global response tough enough to get those answers what kind of political and economic interests swaying the decision makers this is inside story.

hello and welcome to the show i'm sam is a than outrage condemnation and diplomatic action escalating worldwide the killing of saudi journalist shoji continues to provoke reaction he was last seen entering the saudi consulate in istanbul on october the second since then the world has been gripped by accounts of what really happened the mystery first unfolded through leaks by turkish investigative reports emerged about a saudi hit squad killing and dismembering the journalist allegedly on the orders of the crown prince mohammed bin man after two weeks of saudi denials they eventually admitted he was mistakenly killed during a brawl in the consulate and they denied any involvement by the crown prince denials met with widespread skepticism turkey's president has confirmed what he

called a savage premeditated murder budget towboat of the one has called for an independent investigation that holds any saudi accountable from top to bottom and is calling on the kingdom to provide specially out who gave the order to murder a child g. and way his body remains are. let's have a look at how world leaders have reacted so far the message from the united states has changed significantly the u.s. is now adopting a more negative stance towards the kingdom and first on transcend the saudi exploration was credible he stressed the importance of relations with the saudi allies and said millions of american jobs were more important than imposing sanctions well now the president says the saudis are guilty of the worst cover up ever germany has stopped saudi weapons deals chancellor angela merkel has joined other european countries in calling for a credible investigation the g seven which includes japan canada and the u.s.

condemned the killing in the strongest possible terms francis spend it all diplomatic visits to the kingdom other countries and business leaders boycotted a major investment conference in riyadh but leaders in the arab world have varied from silence to welcoming the steps taken by the saudis. let's bring in our panel joining us in the show in washington d.c. we have more in a bally senior fellow at the institute for palestine studies in istanbul sinan ogun chairman of the center for economic and foreign policy studies and also in washington d.c. georgia o'keeffe yarrow the c.e.o. of gulf state analytics welcome to you all if i could start with more in our human rights considerations starting perhaps perhaps more into win over in calculations of self interest now that we've seen for example the u.s. is that starting to take some initial measures like cancelling visas of people it

believes may be linked to the job killing. i think it's a bit of a stretch to assume that the united states or some of these european governments of suddenly discover the importance of human rights in the middle east i think what's really happened here is is that the result of pressure and the constant leaks and so on have forced them into a corner and they have had to act i mean i think the operative principle for these governments is that they can't let the dismembered body of a saudi journalist get in the way of more important things like selling arms to riyadh to complete the obliteration of of yemen and to. renew conflict with iran and to consolidate israeli occupation over policy and so on but i think what's happened in this political context they have felt compelled to take

some measures whether they're going to be merely symbolic or more substantive is something we'll have to see over the long run but you know there is a history here of seventy years of western policy one of whose operative principles is to prevent the peoples of the middle east from controlling their own destiny and i think if you were to ask anyone in the region whether they think western and particularly american policy has been driven by any consideration of human rights they're liable to die laughing and before they can answer your question let me jump in here because we have been hearing some words among those lines from angola merkel the german chancellor let's listen in to what she's been saying about her concern for human rights. well sonya's all distant guns allowed pursued this is what happened in the saudi consulate is inconceivable it reflects that human dignity isn't respected and many parts of the world some treaties are

now being cancelled and reversed which again prompts us to work more for world peace we must find solutions we must strive to preserve europe together because it's a society based on shared values and we must not lose sight of our gains we must continue to fight for the payments of seven decades of pace. in light of things like that let me take that scene and there are some world leaders you know really shocked has this killing really shocked some world leaders and perhaps beginning to think about how we should all really value human rights would seem to be diminishing. it certainly has shocked. the nature of the crime itself is very shocking but also the fact that it took place. at the compound of a diplomatic representation is also a quite unprecedented. now we have seen the reactions will leave

as well as in turkey. this crime. and i think the turkish strategy here which has been to also gradually share with international public opinion some of the evidence. has also allowed. nurturing of international pressure for western governments to start to react more strongly you have. indeed for instance the german ship and south america has reacted to this days ago there that germany was suspending on the big saudi arabia. box it took more than two weeks for germany to part of that stance. i think the same can be said with regard to the u.s. administration and even their much less has happened in terms of who will reaction

for reasons that we know well namely the relationship between u.s. president trump and the crown prince mohammed bin samana and but also the fact that with the trump ministration the u.s. had decided to invest much more heavily this relationship with saudi arabia and form who that was on the contained strategy towards iraq so their horse the reasons why the reaction is not being commensurate with the gravity of the crime and they are holding off human rights. would still in your aunt's change in the u.s. position over the last two or three weeks right elise the white house position. yes but still no clear impact. on the relationship with saudi so far we have seen you know ok she loyal. statements coming from the

white house some negative some lessening it. but nothing so far or they said there's not any revote visa's that's tangible there's no. sorry could be that yeah they said they've started to revoke visas that's tangible isn't it yes but not to you know a way that would impact the power structure in riyadh is that ok let's bring georgia into the discussion so do you think a told georgiou that the killing might become a turning point in human rights accountability in saudi arabia i'm pretty skeptical right now i think that for the trump administration this comes as a huge political headache right before the united states is midterm elections next month saudi arabia has of course becoming

a domestic issue in the united states right now. becoming a big liability for the trumpet ministration especially with more in the media attention to the special relationship between questioner and. are in the crown prince of saudi arabia mohamed bin so man but to get to your question you know we're seeing some rhetoric from the white house that might seem odd from the standpoint of those who want the kingdom to be held accountable but i don't think there is going to be a real push from this in ministration on saudi arabia to change its positions on issues concerning human rights i think more pressure will probably come from u.s. lawmakers but how is this going to pan out on the ground in saudi arabia how is it going to change the way in which the kingdom is being ruled today i'm pretty skeptical about any major changes coming as a result of this very ugly case. glad you mentioned the congress though will pick

up on that point in a second but let me take this thought back to sin and briefly remind us what's at stake in terms of standards of governance in this region as a whole depending on how internationalized this affair in terms of accountability goes. well i mean this is really an affront if you want to speak in more plausible terms this is an affront to human dignity and therefore there needs to be a strong reaction showing where walk the red lines of the international community is and that's generally what's expected however can we think that even if we were to see such a strong reaction from one community whoa people overall impact of this whether this you know this incident will be glossed over and you know go back to

business as usual in the foreseeable future or whether we can expect to see some change in behavior some real accountability. that remains an open question ok let me take this thought to my name for the first time we've had the u.s. president in the catering and interview that the saudi crown prince might be responsible for such objects killing why what's tough and what changed his stance. when you're talking about presidents from you're really talking about a volatile airhead who's kind of all over the map and therefore i find it very difficult to take anything he says seriously particularly because he tends to take you know every side of an issue in the space of a day and sometimes. an hour i think i think what's really at stake here

is i believe there is a solid u.s. and for that matter european consensus about the need to continue propping up the saudi regime as with. other repressive regimes in the region and i think the question people are asking themselves is whether this impulsive reckless. volatile crown prince mohammed bin. service that strategic objective or rather forms an obstacle to it and within the united states for example. it's been pretty clear for some time that the professionals if you will in the state department and the cia and in the defense of establishment have their reservations about muhammad been sent down from the very outset but what you had with. the coming of the trumpet ministration as a saudi american relations have become almost a function of

a personal relationship between the president's son in law and cushion or and crown prince mohammed bin send money and i think what we may be seeing now at least here in the united states is an attempt by the professionals to reclaim a role in that relationship now this is complicated because in the meantime mohammed bin seven has managed to establish absolute and bra. old power and to you as a man is to weaken. and the alternative power centers whether other branches of the family or or of the security forces and so on and so i think this is going to go on . for some time and even if you know there is basically i would say muhammad than some future is now in the hands of the trump administrator ok that is the america that is holding point let me let me take that thought back

to joe joe so if we're seeing the white house donald trump put something of a question mark over mohammed bin sandman what does that mean for the crown prince it seems that if more and more people in america come to the conclusion that m.d.'s played some sort of a role in the murder of the washington post contributor it's crown prince may become the next king of saudi arabia is going to be seen as increasingly toxic in washington since he began his ascendancy to the palace m.b.'s in those around him have made major investments in the u.s. and other western countries trying to attract foreign investment for his vision twenty thirty reform agenda has tried to obtain a lot of goodwill in washington those efforts now suffered the question is if the

reversal is if this can be reversed or not this negative direction it's going to be very well do you think you can cult for m.b.a.'s to regain the goodwill you know in the past. it's there have been so many issues that cause tension between the u.s. and saudi arabia between other countries and saudi arabia but over it i'm those issues seem to sort of escape the spotlight and relations always went back to business as usual surely the saudis want that right now but given how much outrage there is in washington i think it's going to be a long time before people stop talking about souls are different this time is how many international players there are on this issue not least of which of course turkey sin and do you think turkey wants to see the accountability reach mohamed bin some man's doorstep at this point. assuredly i tend to think

that that the church presence objective. that is also the reason why out there is the pressure. are going on the turkish side of gradually the reason why that is gradual is because president iran's also aware of the difficulties that this incident has caused to. the u.s. president and just as the charity u.s. relationship is. slowly moving out beyond that want to create yet another serious difficulty for trump before the midterms so this is the final balancing act that he has to save you know into consideration on the one hand he wants to build up pressures that eventually the moment when someone is held

accountable but at the same time you also want to provide a face saving formula for trump give you a heart. that relationship is a trump gerri question there and then yes i wonder maureen if you think listening to what's in and saying there whether you think donald trump may already be finding that face saving solution to allow perhaps harder measures against saudi arabia when he said killing of it mostly up to congress to decide what to do next surely he knows full well that the sentiment in congress monks most senators bipartisan is to go for sanctions against saudi arabia yes but you know you can you can have sanctions that amount to a slap on the wrist or you can have a meaningful change of policy and i know senator mccain wanted something more than a slap on the wrist at this point. well that's what they're saying now you know

look give the lobbyist some time to spring into action and they may end up being less enthusiastic and also what kind of sanctions are they proposing for example should the united states cease to so what the ins to saudi arabia that would obviously be good news for yemen for example but wouldn't necessarily affect the power dynamic and you know as with so many arab regimes. the legitimacy of an arab regime is not determined by the support of its own people they can survive quite well without the support of their own people the only real test of their longevity is whether western governments are prepared to continue propping them up and that i think is is the key key issue here and again we're not talking about regime change in riyadh we're really talking about. the future of one

player in that power structure and whether mohamed bin. will be allowed to continue exercising playing the role he has monopolizing power the way he has sent to the throne and remain on that throne for perhaps decades and given the type of decisions he's been taking i think there are growing misgivings in the west. about keeping him on board for perhaps decades to come and there are second thoughts now whether this stage it's. going to be a simple matter to have replaced or not is i think an entirely different set of questions jo-jo what impact would any level of tough action from congress have do you think. i think that if the u.s. government is going to take actions against saudi arabia what we can expect is an

acceleration of a trend that began years and years ago and that is the saudi arabians making a geo economic shift eastward what we're seeing from this current conference in saudi arabia that's ongoing right now is. sort of a stepped up presence of russian chinese and other eastern investors in the kingdom on in many countries in the east there is less of a political price for the leadership to pay it seen as being very close to a regime like saudis on and so i think saudi arabia is going to try to become more autonomy from the united states and europe and its eyes are going to be on moscow and beijing relies heavily on the u.s. for its defense mechanism and strategy though doesn't it say i'm. yes indeed and i think just to hold on that call is conspicuous you know way that so far the

statements coming out of moscow has have been very useful we have not heard any no criticism from most though it is you know and since they were essentially bite courses and protective riyadh's inches so i think when we talk about the reaction to what happened to national community maybe we should be a lot more nuanced in the real reaction is from the west we have immediacy and used strong reaction from other countries like russia or china and that ultimately may also be a consideration calculus is the up. how real is this scenario do you think of saudi arabia using perhaps its oil cod to kind

of mute any consideration of strong sanctions or actions against it i think it's extremely unlikely. because what saudi arabia needs now more than anything is a strengthening of its relations with the west and particularly with the trumpet ministration secondly saudi arabia is very heavily invested in and along with israel and the trumpet ministration and seeking to increase tensions and pursue a strategy of regime change in iran and so the last thing it will want to do is to take measures that will raise the price of oil above and beyond what the removal of iranian oil from from the market would cause so i think it's extremely unlikely and also you know bear in mind the context saudi arabia is now under a significant reputational pressure if you will and if it responds to this by

playing the oil card you know trying to wreak havoc and and energy markets and so on that's going to reflect very negatively on the men particularly on the and individual who everyone sees as effectively functioning as a sole decision maker and these days all right i think we are going to have to end the discussion there because we're running out of time it's been a good discussion let's thank our guests though joe joe coffey out of siena gun and more in rabbani. and thank you to forging you can see the show again any time by visiting our web site al-jazeera dot com and for further discussion head over to our facebook page that's facebook dot com forward slash a.j. inside story you can also join the conversation on twitter our handle there is at a.j. inside story from me sam is a dad and the whole team here for now thanks for joining us.

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investigative work listening post as we turn the cameras on the media and focus on how they report on the story certainly to demand see bias the rights to those stories but then he never publishes those stories they're listening post on al-jazeera. we understand the differences and the similarities of cultures across the world around. so many times i call her . algy c.n.n. will bring in the news and current of families that matter to. al-jazeera. pushing for action against saudi arabia members of congress take steps to stop the u.s. selling to riyadh in response to the death of the journalist jamal khashoggi. saudi

crisper had been summoned makes his first public comments on her show she's death calling it a heinous crime. maybe and said again this is al jazeera live from doha also coming up suspicious packages high profile targets investigators in the u.s. search for clues to find out who's behind a series of suspected mail bombs. i stress that atrocities continue to to take place today a warning from the u.n. that the genocide against the hinge of muslims is still going on. members of congress in the u.s. have introduced a bill to ban most arms sales to saudi arabia as the global fallout over the killing of journalist. continues to grow

a bipartisan group led by senior democrat jim mcgovern is sponsoring the bill it would cut military cooperation with saudi arabia unless u.s. investigators provide proof that the saudi government did not order or direct. me. head of the cia is headed back to washington d.c. after spending the last two days in the us media is reporting the jailhouse for listening to an audience recording of the moment that the journalist was killed inside the consulate in istanbul all this as the international spotlight is pointed directly at the saudi crown prince who deny is ordering the operation on wednesday mohamed been silent made his first comments on the killing he said it was a painful crime and vowed that justice will prevail. what would. it had to show but first of all it's very painful to perceive it to all saudis it is painful to everyone in the world it's

a brutal attack not accepted investigations are happening we will work with the turkish government to reach results in the perpetrators will be brought to justice this is something that has to be taken by any government and undoubtedly the cooperation between the turkish and saudi government is good and we know a lot of people are trying to seize these painful situation to create a rift between turkey and saudi arabia and i want this place to send a message that you would never be able to do that as long as you have a king called salad man in a dual izzy's. crown prince name mohammed bin salomon and saudi arabia. and a turkish president named earlier one. one hour on the turkish investigation of the forensic teams search for her body alan fischer reports from istanbul. even the routine looks suspicious now. i think the consular residence in istanbul

they were cleaning sewers it happens a few times a year this street was due but with turkish forensic teams searching everywhere possible for clues to look eat jamal khashoggi his body this takes on a new significance it's now about trying to piece together a complex gruesome jigsaw with. huge international implications you would think that the whole effort would be to see that justice was done early seen to be done at least to name the guilty parties but of course it's much more complicated than that because it involves a whole web of relationship in this very complex region and also course the united states that is the car park in istanbul suburb where the soli consular car was discovered it was searched turkish police found a computer and clothes but still don't know why it was here then there is the place where an alleged should you body double the clothes he was wearing when he left the consulate all done to suggest the right or left the building the turkish president says a saudi team came here to this forest

a short drive from istanbul the day before jamal khashoggi died the suggestion they were looking for a place to dump a body the implication his death was premeditated and not the result of a fight that got out of hand each and every day there seems to be new information revealed or leaked the latest this was the car used for that mission in the forest caught by security cameras now an important part of the investigation but there's the feeling turkey's president was far more than has been made public clearly. the president of turkey is trying to use this incident to weaken. the saudi arab parents but how it's a dangerous game to play if he plays his cards as it were too rough for his to insist there are too forceful things could rebound so he's trying still a little bit carefully. the turks seem to know what happened in great detail who may have been responsible and we are no bringing them in front of

a turkish court seems unlikely but they're pushing on with their inquiries and promise to soon sure what they know with their allies and the rest of the world. and i was with us now live from outside the saudi consulate in istanbul on what's the latest on the investigation. well we know the turks want to search a well consuls. house which is a very short walk away from where i'm standing now when they searched the garden the first didn't see the well then it was spotted in they decided that they wanted to check it there were twenty seven people involved in the search for the turkish side but they had to bring in a specialist team because the well is six meters deep he said that the people that they wanted to bring in weren't listed in the official documents requesting access and therefore they could come in the turks have expressed a bit of frustration because this is happened every time there's so days permission

for every single search they want the names of the people who are going to be involved and if they don't have everything exactly right then there is a delay and that kind of puts a bit of pressure on the targets particularly say they're working closely with them to get to the bottom of this anyway back to the well they decided that they would do a quick search of the water there they got some samples they tested those samples they believe the is nothing in there that would suggest that there is a body or even body parts but they want to make sure that the cross all the t's and dot all the i's so that in the weeks and months to come no one can see well did you do this and they think wall no we didn't so these still want to go and check this out well and it's thought that they'll get permission to do that in the next couple of days in the meantime it's all the book putting together the jigsaw of the north roughly what happened inside the consulate and when what they don't know is where

democracy showed these body is and that is the focus of that investigation at the moment given all of that the fact that the saudis are working alongside the turks on this investigation state is the relationship between saudi arabia and turkey. well is a. interesting things from more mohamed bin solomon said at the conference in the. state the first thing is he described what happened in the consulate here in istanbul as a he described he mentioned it a couple of times but he never at any point mentioned jamal khashoggi body he also said that the saudis were going to continue to crack down in extremism and crack down to on the funding of terrorism and that was a clear message to the americans that hey we are your ally in this and you should be sticking closely with us and we know that before he took to the stage in riyadh he did phone conversation with president of turkey and that was important because

that's the first time these two very significant figures have spoken now we know that turkey and saudi arabia have been at odds over a number of issues in the region over the last few years such as egypt their relationship with iran and the ongoing blockade of qatar but the fact that the crown prince then said that during the conference that he thought qatar's economy was strong is a softening of the position that he's had over the last eighteen months or so things suddenly different talking about guitar in a different way and that may well be the influence of president seventy we nor the he's not overly keen on the harm have been solved and he would like to try and rein them in slightly when it comes to his influence in the region and around the world i know the highs the details of what happened in the embassy and many believe the turks know who ordered this and have the documents to prove it and if that is true

then he has leverage for the deeds the weeks the months and possibly even the years to come. live some of the saudi consulate in istanbul and he thinks ellen let's hear now from washington mike hanna has more on what action some u.s. politicians are proposing against riyadh. what proposed legislation has been introduced in the house of representatives it's come in the form of a letter signed by a number of congressmen including some republican representatives so it is in effect bipartisan legislation basically what it does is says that saudi arms deals must be reviewed in particular those pertaining to intelligence training and equipment unless president trump provides a report which establishes saudi arabia and innocence in this whole affair now this is legislation that has been introduced before submittal type legislation and at the moment the house of representatives and indeed the senate is not holiday they

will not be returning until after the mid-term elections but what this is is a warning to president trump that they are going to continue to maintain pressure on his administration to conclude its investigation into exactly what happened in the death of jamal khashoggi in the course of the day two comments from a former director of the cia he had this to say referring to the crown prince by his initials and b.s. whether or not he authorized dismemberments the truth you can brutal killing and torture of him in the reported dismembering of the battery but i don't know but i have no doubt my mind. was fully aware of what was going to happen to be in had approved and the current director of the cia is on her way back to the u.s.

she will be briefing president trump on her return this is the key issue president trump has said he's waiting for all full information from her g. the hospital has been fully briefed it is reported by her turkish counterpart she will have all the information that president trump needs to take a decision as to how the u.s. should react to the death of jamal khashoggi. investigations are underway to find out who sent out explosives in suspicious packages to high profile democrats and news network c.n.n. donald trump condemned the attempted bomb attacks but some accuse the president of stoking the flames that have led to increased political divisiveness kristen salumi reports. one of the packages was addressed barack obama in washington d.c. it was discovered on wednesday morning the night before a package was discovered addressed to hillary clinton's residence in upstate new york both devices were intercepted during routine security screenings at

a rally in florida clinton expressed her gratitude we are fine thanks to the men and women of the secrets.