teen attackers were saudi there have been congressman who have long agitated for action against the saudis the whole furor over the classified portion of the nine eleven report which is about saudi arabia in recent years there have been some congressman relative few who have been agitated by the saudi led intervention in the yemen civil war and so there have been recurrent calls to hold up arms sales to saudi and indeed a small amount of arms has been put on hold even before the murder but you balance that sentiment in congress with a nother factor and that is that the trepan ministration has put its cards all in for regime change in iran and you cannot pursue regime change in iran which turns especially upon economic measures unless the saudis support you because you need saudi oil to cover the shortfall of iranian oil being basically curbed by sanctions so saudi still has a leverage as long as the trumpet ministration wants to go against iran wants regime change the saudis can come back to washington and say look are you going to

choose the iranians are you going to choose us well let's bring in washington d.c. right now we have joel rubin joining us president of the washington strategy group deputy assistant secretary of state we're discussing the options that the white house has when it comes to saudi arabia one of the options that you think that they have when it comes to the crown prince when it comes to saudi arabia over the crucial. well i think you for having me and there are a variety of options that the white house has hit its disposal they could first and foremost prevent him from traveling to united states they could implement sanctions from the bank mitzi act the white house could do with holding of military transfers withdraw support for saudi's air war into yemen so there's a variety of measures but really the question is the political will for doing it and right now it doesn't seem like the white house has much will in that space they

certainly clearly now want to have an investigation go forward but they don't want it appears to have the investigation goes to the level where where it touches mohammed bin selman and so congress is going to get additionally frustrated and look for measures and ways to put pressure on the white house to take some real actual concrete action was joe review why is the white house seemingly so wedded to the crown prince. they really have invested their middle east policy in the bilateral relationship with saudi arabia a bit as the previous speaker was saying related to iran and the desire to have a loyal that would cover the losses from iran when iran sanctions kick in and about a week or two isolate iran more through gulf partnerships as well as looking to saudi arabia to put pressure on the palestinians related to middle east peace

and so there's a significant investment we also don't know what is happening behind the scenes with jericho shinar and other senior officials in the white house and certainly if the democrats take a chamber of congress they're going to look into that but right now the white house has leverage deeply into the relationship with saudi arabia and is very loath to weaken that. joel rubin just one more question to you before we move on to the rest of august koran is very much on the cards on the table has been for a very long time but in the last four weeks we've heard about pressure being put on saudi arabia pressure being put on the crown prince himself is the trumpet ministrations iranian strategy in tatters right. i wouldn't say it's in tatters but it's under duress there is certainly a lot of questioning here in washington to keep the washington perspective on this there's a lot of questioning about the wisdom in following a saudi lead on iran or from the perspective of the us foreign policy to make it

all about iran when we see that saudi arabia has behaved like they did in turkey with the killing of jamal khashoggi so there's a lot of questioning but in tatters no not not yet the department is continuing to execute sanctions the state department continuing to engage diplomatically in the pressure track and there really is no alternative diplomatic track yet that they've created but that's not different from the past year of engagement with iran but certainly there are a lot more questions now about the wisdom of this strategy and it doesn't appear that this can hold in this manner for an ending amount of time there will be a point at which the child ministration is going to have to come up with an alternative way of dealing with iran than it currently is doing let's bring in andrew finkel in a stumble right now president of the on his advisors his team must be taking a look at everything that the u.s. is doing when it comes to saudi arabia and iran what would be the turkish strategy

right now what's the what's the next move when it comes to regional politics and particular iran. well turkey has several aims i mean you have on one level as your speakers have already said that turkey is vying with saudi for a moral leadership in the region and it sees this current crisis an opportunity to be one up on the saudis certainly but of course the turkish economy is not like the iranian oil be or the saudi economy they don't have oil maybe to buy oil and they're very nervous about the effect of iranian sanctions on the price of oil the jaegers economy the moment is sort of running on fumes and they really do need not to be isolated or insulated from the rest of the world so what they would be looking for from america certainly is a waiver on being able to purchase iranian oil that may not be coming but they

certainly don't want to be in a position where the united states for example imposes a major fine on one of those they don't target banks. which was deemed to be in violation of the iranian sanctions which plus the iranian sanctions some time ago so they're looking for some sort of economic easy ride from the united states they don't want to be put under pressure and i suppose that possibly one of the reasons why they're upping the rhetoric and in order to make their bargaining position stronger. and so that they at the end of the day will not embarrass the united states policy let's talk about you know i say his policy is called make us let's bring you and hair does the relationship between the trumpet ministration and mohamed bin salman rather than saudi arabia need to be reset in the wake of this and why isn't the trumpet ministration really looking at that it seems to me that

it's almost protect the crown prince at all costs. well because this administration at one level when we talk about donald trump his inner circle they don't function as a normal bureaucracy they function very much on personal ties amongst a small elite which drawl ruben was talking about and the fact is even before donald trump took office there were back channel meetings between his inner circle not to jerry not just jared kirshner but someone named erik prince the founder of blackwater the mercenary group with officials from saudi and importantly from the u.a.e. who have played probably an underestimated role in all of this and those personal ties are what the trumpet ministration was using rather than say working through the state department through the military up to the point where they initially backed the saudis when they blockaded qatar back in two thousand and seventeen now the question is one of the agencies the state department in particular are going to say look we need to use this episode to row this back

a bit i don't think by going after trump regarding saying you've got to get rid of the crown prince but for example what i expect washington to be possibly urging is a reconciliation among skull countries in other words let's urge the saudis to make peace with qatar to end the blockade and let's turn therefore the negative of the fair into a positive which is the u.s. gets a stable relationship with not only the saudis but with qatar where they have a major base and the rest of the gulf countries as they try to put pressure on iran jill rubin let me bring you in the head we've heard that it is time to perhaps reset the relationship maybe bring in the gulf countries a bit law and not to rely solely on saudi arabia is there any way you can see that happening. absolutely can i believe that ministration is going to face continual calls for why it's pursuing a saudi centric foreign policy in the middle east in particular when we have

longstanding allies such as cutters such as kuwait. such as oman in there in the region the emirates these countries all have had strong relationships with the united states and to our strategic advantage to engage all of them and not rely on one in the lead in our foreign policy but that it's going to take real work and the president didn't try to lean in to resolve the gulf crisis last year it seems to have some dissipation but it's not resolved in any clear way and so that has to be a priority for this administration if it wants to get its foreign policy straight going forward we are out of time and thanks to all our guests because andrew finkel and joel rubin and thank you too for watching you can see the program again any time by visiting our website dot com and for further discussion go to our facebook page that's facebook dot com forward slash a.j. inside story you can also join the conversation on twitter handle is at a.j.

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experts to help investigate what she describes as the shocking brazen killing of saudi journalist jamal khashoggi. pakistan's top court acquits a christian woman who was sentenced to death on charges of blasphemy. and how does a country measure happiness where in the mountain kingdom of god tom to find out. it's time to replace combat with compromise that's the message from the u.s. defense secretary to everyone involved in yemen's war james mattis says he wants them as he put it at the tate peace table with ed a month it builds on pressure from others in the trumpet ministration who want the conflict and as well as and reports from washington d.c. . since yemen cratered into civil war in two thousand and fourteen the damage and the carnage have been relentless. an estimated fifty six thousand civilians have

died either because of widespread food shortages disease or airstrikes carried out by the saudi led coalition in support of president abdullah robbo monsoor hod now a call to end the war from u.s. defense secretary jim mattis whose forces provide intelligence and equipment support to the saudi coalition our goal all right now is to achieve a level of. capability by those forces fighting against them that they are not killing innocent people. the longer term solution and by longer term i mean thirty days from now we want to see everybody around a peace table based on ashish fire based on a pull back from the border and then based on chief sheen dropping of bombs that will permit the special envoy martin griffin to very good he knows what he's doing to get them together and and this war that it's the only way we're going to really

solve this. thing improved accuracy of bombs is still a war show we've got to move toward a peace effort here and we can't say we're going to do it sometime in the future we need to be doing this in the next thirty days we've admired this problem for long enough down there and i believe that the saudis and the emirates are ready and in fact at the who do not walked out of the last effort of martin griffin had going we would probably be on our way there right now. the trumpet ministration has been criticized for not keeping the saudi led coalition from bombing yemen civilians it has blamed rebels who things for using civilians as human shields and that has told a washington audience he doesn't want to see the saudis how to target who confided more effectively we've got to replace combat with compromised and we are working as we speak with mr martin griffith the u.n.

special envoy i've met with him my shellshock a pompei i was talking to him frequently as we try to amass the international support we just met. in the nama in the nama dialogue and this was brought up forcefully not just by myself but by others as well that it's time to stop this madness is call for peace talks was backed up later on tuesday by the secretary of state my comp aoe he said both the these and the saudis must stop their attacks and start peace talks under u.n. auspices in november. the u.s. says it wants to see lives in yemen a point which the french defense minister floors partly underscored earlier on tuesday teach increase many there to humanitarian crisis like we've never seen before because of this what's important is that this war ends its time it is time now that this war ends and it's also important and it's the priority for france

that the humanitarian situation improves and that aid is allowed through because it's an outrageous situation. the next step could be the hardest convincing both sides in the yemen civil war there is a cost for not making peace rosalyn jordan al-jazeera washington well at that same event has also addressed the murder of jamal khashoggi the saudi journalist was killed inside the kingdom's consulate in istanbul and second of october mike hanna has more the u.s. secretary of defense has just returned from a security meeting in bahrain where among others he held talks with the saudi foreign minister he said that the issue of jamal khashoggi had been deeply discussed he would inform the foreign minister that the u.s. administration wants to get to the bottom of the matter it asked him as well to cooperate with turkey in the ongoing investigation into the journalist deaths. the president said we want to get to the bottom we will get to the bottom of it and as

you know turkey. so far provided evidence for every allegation that they have made about what happened and show no one nation controls all the information and i spoke to the foreign minister shaadi arabia two days ago in managua and he said there would be a full investigation secretary mattis was very careful to separate out the issue of yemen and shogi saying that these were two totally different matters making clear though that the u.s. is continuing to put pressure to bear on saudi arabia to cooperate with turkey in the investigation president trump was briefed by his senior intelligence officials in the past week is director of the cia his secretary of state but the last that's been said fry the white house is that the matter is still being considered no

decision taken yet on what the u.s. is going to do and when it would appear that president trump is putting the matter on hold until after the midterm elections. and the un has joined calls for saudi arabia to reveal the whereabouts of jamal khashoggi remain. the main problem for us globally in the world you seem to need to and in the case of. we need troops to. do a fact finding mission to make sure that we understand what really happened and that we made but i say we put a concrete proposal to the government of saudi out of your base we invite us a group of five reporters an. investigation on what happened and then present the global community it does with the findings of all investigation that is appropriate for those before. let's go live to. saudi consulate in istanbul where she

was killed in the saudi prosecutor has been in istanbul what came of his meetings with turkish prosecutors. well turkish officials including the prosecutor himself not satisfied frustrated because of the lack of cooperation from the saudi arabians you mentioned the top prosecutor he's been here since sunday night he's held two meetings at the courthouse he sat down with samples chief prosecutor the man who is leading the investigation into the. murder and according to sources at the prosecutor's office saudi arabia is slowing down the process not cooperate ing during the first day the first meeting turkey want to the testimonies of the eighteen saudi suspects the men who have been detained in connection with the murder the saudi arabians did not present those testimonies they did the following day but according to their sources there was nothing to add to the investigation a lot of questions remain unanswered the saudi arabia not telling turkey where the

body is or the body parts of. saudi arabia not telling them who this local collaborator they said was hired to dispose of the body so they're not giving any. information of that sort or even heard or gone say you know there's a game being played the turkish president saying a game being played to save someone to protect someone a columnist who is very close to the turkish president went even further and actually named that person who they believe to saudi arabia is trying to protect the defacto ruler of saudi arabia the crown prince mohammed bin solomon. meanwhile the tax investigation continues where does it go next. well turkish investigators want access to the consul general residence again they've searched that residence in the past weeks but they wanted to search this well in the guard and they couldn't do it the first time because of technicalities so far saudi arabia not giving them any permission to enter the garden so it shows

you how saudi arabia is trying to slow down the process so what happens next are gone the turkish president a few days ago warned that we have solid evidence and we are going to release this evidence but at the right time when is the right time turkey strategy has been you know leaking this information to put saudi arabia and in the corner so far they have admitted to the death and the killing of. but turkey wants more now we also have to wait for the united states there they are weighing their options at the end of the day turkey does not want a direct confrontation with reality it's trying to tread carefully it doesn't want a rupture in the relationship between turkey and saudi arabia even the united states has to tread carefully because saudi arabia is central to their middle east strategy and policy so we have to wait to see whether or not another leak will be given to the media that will pressure saudi arabia even more to cooperate ok saying that for the moment thanks very much well meanwhile there are reports that the saudi king's younger brother had been. returned to. calling

a potential challenge to crown prince had been someone we've been up to lizzie's is reported to address much of the kingdom of to receiving security assurances from the. u.s. and u.k. officials have been living outside the kingdom for the past six years last november had been launched a purge of dissident worlds but it did not go directly after the surviving sons of king abdul aziz that's the founder of the saudis state and the father of. pakistan's top court has acquitted a christian woman who was sentenced to death for blasphemy bibi a mother of four was sentenced in two thousand and ten after being convicted of insulting islam as prophet mohammed the charges dated back to the year before when bibi went to get water for her and her fellow farm workers to muslim women refuse to drink from a containing used by a christian and a few days later locals began accusing her of blasphemy or mere rumor of blasphemy can ignite violence in pakistan where allegations of the crime of become

a rallying cry for ultra conservative muslim groups me accusations of results in lynchings and extrajudicial murders throughout the country at least seventy four people have been killed in violence related to blasphemy since one nine hundred ninety in two thousand and ten a vocal opponent of the blasphemy law punjab's then governess on monday was killed by his own bodyguard after calling for baby's release a year later pakistan's sole christian minister shahbaz bhatti was shot dead after pushing for reform this past year a court sentenced a man to death for murdering a student who was falsely accused of blasphemy can was dragged out of his university accommodation and beaten before being shot and his body mutilated well earlier we spoke to a human rights activist. who told us that they now fear for asia bibi safety if and when she walks free. all of us who are human rights defenders and stand up for for

the rule of law and the rights of minorities and pluralism and and nonsectarian ism and antioch lasy in pakistan we have been extremely worried about a life for her life and safety and the protection and that of her family and that of her lawyers and that of her supporters and human rights defenders and now for the lives of the three under bill that is of the supreme court we call upon the government of pakistan because upon all state institutions to ensure the life and safety and protection of us here bibi her immediate family her friends her supporters her lawyers and the entire christian community of pakistan this is going to be a landmark judgment. touchstone judgment something that's going to remain on the on the log books it's going to be courted as case law as precedence for all of the cases to come and i would like to commend the brave judges the honorable chief justice of pakistan and his two brother judges who were brave enough to render this

judgment keeping in mind the threats that they have personally been receiving and all of us who have been supporting us yet we over the past eight years or protests have already begun against babies acquittal these are ministrations in lahore have been organized by the conservative turk. posse chanting death to the judges who made the ruling and demanding that the prime minister of iran can resign. still ahead in this half hour with the latest from end of cruise believe they found the fuselage of the passenger jet that crashed into the sea on monday. and we have the stories from days playing violence and policy in central america hoping for a new life in the u.s. .

well i don't hold your breath if you're in the western mediterranean although the low that was there is now of the north sea that was the destructive one spring is scandinavia there's plenty more clouds and there is of low pressure sitting over the spine and the bay of biscay and they're heading down this way so i'm afraid it's a repeat performance for run you through from today's picture until tomorrow's first of all you see a massive green and lines out of the place as just the wind the rain together already causing some trouble but as they all conglomerates the circulation taking place over the body erica allan's over morocco algeria quite possibly and we end up with once more strong winds and right of italy the adriatic southern france switzerland it's a repeat performance i'm afraid all this time in eastern europe is relatively warm words to the finals was it was the grasses that twenty thousand and twenty six but still quite warm and the consequence well of the last line of rain if you like is

still the cloud streaming out of libya that's probably not doing very much for what's coming in of course to morocco and algeria first of all for today strong winds and potential rain with thunderstorms and a whole lot drift slowly eastwards into our area and still into tunisia. online you're looking at. how the solutions come together to benefit all parties involved that's where we're going to. join us if you could take me around the content way. you don't have to set up your experiment in. the universe this is a dialogue everyone has a voice you actually read several interesting points you know that members are going to join.

us time to replace combat with compromise. yemen's a war. within thirty days a call from the u.s. . president. about. the un human rights chief is pushing for international experts to be part of the investigation into. court acquitted. in two thousand and ten after being

convicted on charges of insulting islam prophet muhammad. and the nation search crews think they found the fuselage of the passenger jet that plunged into the sea on monday killing all one hundred eighty nine people on board and they've he says a twenty. been detected in waters around thirty meters deep and divers are being sent down to confirm it is. the plane a priority is to find the cockpit voice recorder and flight data recorder or the black boxes as they're known they will help explain why the lion air jet went down shortly after taking off from jakarta. but. we're not focusing on that particular location to make sure that what we suspected under the water is part of the plane and together with the head of the search and rescue agency in the commander of the first fleet we're going to see the location for ourselves and hopefully it's the main body of the plane that we've been looking for. from jakarta

port. the authorities are being very careful in saying that they think that it might be the fuselage of the still sending divers we heard a few minutes ago the ministry saying that they're sending more than one hundred divers in various locations to try and look for the fuselage a distant not sure if this is it or it's just another object that they found near ground did hear a ping which the suspect was from the black box they still haven't found yet and they're sending sonar equipment in that area as well but just to give you an idea it's one hundred twenty four thousand nautical miles that they're trying to comb through both with the help of helicopters and forty boats in that area which are looking for this liner jet six hundred ten let me just come out of the truck and to give you an idea of what they've been finding you can see personal belongings the backpacks shoes and various objects which are been found which are supposedly from

the one hundred eighty nine people who were on board this flight which crashed just twelve minutes after it took off this is going to be a painstaking process for these people to collect this evidence that we've been hearing from investigators on shore that the body by bags that have been coming in have now amounted to more than two dozen they're beginning. of these victims that could take between four to eight days but it is going to be a long process before before we actually find out what actually happened. well then four thousand central american migrants heading for the u.s. have arrived in southwest mexico in what's described as a caravan and that's not the only one and is too small a group solve following closely behind townhome and reports from to. the town on the guatemala mexico border. but do you know how to tool to stand but the gangs demanded more money than she guessing if they take

a cut if you don't pay you get threatened police raided to use carriage and put his workmates in jail it was thrilling it was stuck between the government and the criminals both hurt us when the just five dollars a day in the factory she couldn't provide for her daughter. i've got a little girl and i have to go and look for the happiness. the stories are now familiar of central americans fleeing to the united states but these faces a new they all part of the original migrant caravan now moving through mexico instead they one of two small groups following in its wake it's a ripple effect it's being driven on social media new groups organized on facebook what's up charts local t.v. channels broadcast in the bus stations where they meet joy was their first big problem comes at the mexico guatemala board of birds.