prayer and she delivered and then after delivery. brief it did not even cry baby had to resuscitate that good bit by bit after timmy's it was called the baby had died. i could feel the prevent a woman had gone through. it's really touched me. when a baby dies at birth the village women take it for immediate burial. traditionally men have taken no part in the birth or death of babies. babies are even more vulnerable than their mothers at birth globally over three million babies are born dead and a further two million die in their first and only day of life but even after that

and newborns life remains precarious margaret bandas last baby died within a week of being. the little bear you are when we. wanted to so bad the weather was . you never in doubt heard him will remember those words will you know. that i'm learning now the most the end i remember. is going to do or you will last and when i'm to feel when one was home with. them recently and go last you know. mom would have nowhere to go no your mom wouldn't approve. either way and the only tough although sleep tonight. a pregnant woman. had it to me she's on the me to life and death so the mother could die or the bill so could die they would not name the baby

bentley they called for itself because to them the gun is that they all survived. so they have to be sure that this will be indeed has stopped by and for them when the cord falls off is a sign that this baby chances of survival be tacky that's when they would name the big. name of the man we saw from the very mean there isn't. any good. to many. of. them. young who never would in

another the job we normally don't know them out of the don't know what that word when i'm on. one hundred new widget in a magazine out of lida to. daddy it was in my now my guys the memo that my now cut off. tradition of effective with the ones we're conducting very very is in the community that one time the government supported them but then after. they discovered that most of the mothers were dying from the infection they were dying from breathing they were dying from or high blood pressure to addition with that into who could not manage to embrace. an experiment to change traditional birth attendants failed and the deaths continued their reason lay in long distances between villages and health facilities poor roads little transport and few ambulances make it impossible to get birthing mothers to skilled care in imagines

he's so in order to discourage home births the government banned the ancient institution of traditional birth attendants. how to put. them with him on a war do. a job that a woman kunda my kind unchain your mother and i may kind of holiday job we had our way oh my way would i do a one of a college on moonglow my kind and as if it was you that. was. my god. i know or do we give our and lab it that killing us in on it i feel very famous when you got that leader that i won't want to will die many well made anice i am legally a disaster oh i just doubtful before me. that way the town i'm lonely then i doubt is in one need the same one i did it and the jam and an oh my oh my

dynasty oh my ours and i'd any woman. would die in it it would drain would you need to be on what he got you for a woman that i'm with somebody and all i get when of them it is a in unary. the the. the. the the the. my love is first ban on traditional birth attendants was opposed by traditionalists and overturned but when joyce banda became president in twenty twelve she reimposed it. the president has ordered that women should only deliver with skilled help in clinics and hospitals. today she's opening a waiting home for pregnant mothers donated by an international celebrity. when i

began to wonder what was happening to federal women i decided that it would be the best thing i can do is to empower the thousands of women is this going to do if i didn't hear because just ponder intervened and when i was given the. i went to the hospital and the doctor says we have to induce we have to induce all the baby i didn't know when that will bridge wish you were old cause up you can do the baby. finally induced and i thought it was over and in half an hour later i just collapsed i was bleeding to death. i got out of that hospital and i said why do they treat you must be pip's. president banda is on a mission to protect and empower women in malawi yet in a strategic move she selected a man chief quite aney to lead her initiative on safe motherhood and promoted him

to see me achieve. my mother experienced a program. for two victim does just imagine sure about today that this story you know women she was not it into me i nearly burst into tears. i pledged that if i were never allow in a woman in my village to deliver. in the house of the ana school personnel. i've crossed malawi there are still some dead somewhere but the i'm meeting each and every chief from with this with the south with the north east and the west to measure that or that traditionally does in malawi they know their role in order to save the born and the pregnant women. chief

dany has the power to engineer change by steering a massive cultural shift and he's using tradition to do it. with all those powers would have been you know given to get shifted by the question of the lunde. i'm using those powers now commit to it that you know money delivers on the way before i arrived at the facility. then i don't turn to. cheat. these are now the. war yes they are now passing on to say no woman should. give you a break. is a good time for their lives to get involved in some other programs that look like pregnant women and it's not going to be for city to.

walk about every respect to this type of guns and everybody understands the does quite easily. mean this is one of the. other program in the area. according to our culture preakness and i'm told by the security issues. they are which is in their communities who would want to eat the bad but you wouldn't know who exactly did it and if you came to the hospital. it would be such a family so it's a bit of

a wait until the pentagon officials. introduced the idea of providing every woman in the pregnancy with a confidant what he calls a secret their books for our gods are these are the encyclopedias in our culture. that's what i was on my minimum get i knew about it got in my way you see you see what i'm up to a mama wolf an organ when did i want him out on a walk you know i don't like to hear him out that will get away any more. for the first time it was hard for a pregnant woman go to the secret room on budget their women know hugo's hunting for the secret woman this is the reward for the secret women in the inn or the villages this sick recordable they do cordon him over there would have been too

much. when this you know god saved this agreement there was a four of them who make sure that it is reported to the facility under the orthogonal escort of the pregnant woman to the facility. another objective of the safe motherhood initiative is to improve the quality of care at health facilities but change here has not come easily. and that it was. going over my comes to the hospital just the other guest of the weekend by all means she she has been safe from the she was able to reason to believe that so so it becomes

a record thirty we are not able to deliver that to this woman. the first day i came to be this was the lady you that day i would remember all along by. a friend of a women and always be painfully. big gray all those women most painful i'll never forget about it was b.s.e. . and a month later the one me and women when i'd really died would in the us but oh and give it but. while a hospital is one of the biggest maternity hospitals in africa with up to seventy deliveries a day yes doctor is its only full time obstetrician with around hof the nesson cortef field. despite these obstacles has managed to more than hot the number of

mattel. in twenty thirteen. if she's feeling that it was the fifth. when i mean i found a hospital that did not in its terms of any kind of improve the quality of the types of that they give me we are told this by showing on the message received from this facility is that this person who does been made that and you cannot get this they know we cannot afford to as long as you open doors on me with their babies. and i wonder what it is them to agree with and i was not ready to do without doing . was.

like that sometimes if it was said it. s. . when you talk about improvement it requires you to us good so what can i do differently what can they do to make things that need to be the first. to drop a body and. we have multi-source is. being made that will be a more real. useful tool for the place to be so when the big but the government themselves you know don't like this or them friend between drug dealing with the human federal it. but. we started on monday saying different things needed to change we could not continue the way we are so we ignited the passion for bravery change within within there must be done on this stuff themselves. in the way you were here everybody else.

this is going to be doing good old good you see so what i've been up in through this little three years it will be in this lifetime do you need right now this is this it's my love this it could be you know you look you may name i was sympathetically so that was. the stuff i did mean more or less the same but it might come in handy i'm not defending himself almost but i believe what we want to use a. midwife. is one of the team looking after glad to smoke. another ten lives. although i don't know who was did what i now do on this is. not a big old well you. know there's. a big huge what was. that is that all get out of my mouth and i.

am out to know what it was. that it was going to put up systems so that when my mother comes it is not only when a particular person is not around that they'll be able to get attention about subjects and that's how the what grounds come about the clinical or did come about and though the system that was set up sort of to another mother though i definitely have your twenty nine yeah we've always dealt individualist people been present if you want to do it go on for no fee because if you wish just because this is a moment you know she's putting it there yes you're right but no specifics though she is ok functionally it would move one family's lives you know come out on this induced soon. gladys's labor is not progressing. but

the systems are in place and caroline will check again and. the right to adequate housing was adequate who decides. housing is not just about four walls and a roof it's about living in a place where you have peace security and most importantly dignity un special rapporteur. talks to al-jazeera. you stand the differences. and the similarities of cultures across the world. al-jazeera. on counting the cost the us a still the largest on regulated market in the developed world who pays it brags it goes wrong plus the seychelles

leads the way in eco finance with the world's first blue ball. counting the cost. and then reported on the. u.s. and british companies have announced the biggest discovery of natural gas in west africa but what to do with these untapped natural resources is already a source of heated debate nothing much has changed they still spend most of their days looking forward to for the dry riverbed like this one five years on the syrians still feel battered or even those who managed to escape their country have been truly unable to escape the war. this is al jazeera i'm dating an obligato with a check on your world headlines the un's human rights council is reviewing the

actions of saudi arabia and its record on rights violations a saudi delegation is in geneva to face questions over the murder of. among other issues addressing the council the delegation restated the kingdom's position that it's investigating the case and will prosecute those responsible for the killing the saudis have come under heavy criticism from the australian delegation. astray or to close the killing of jamal khashoggi reports that the killing was premeditated deeply in a strain to recommend saudi arabia fully cooperate with investigations related to the killing of krishnaji implements legislation that holds to account government officials who preach the law and takes further measures to guarantee freedom of opinion and expression turkey's newspaper is reporting that members of a saudi team sent to istanbul to investigate these killing focused instead on removing evidence the publication is reporting that among the saudi team that arrived nine days after the assassination were experts on chemicals on toxicology

they were reportedly given the job of getting rid of evidence. the toughest sanctions to date that's what the u.s. is calling the latest measures against iran it's targeting the country's oil and financial sectors but iran's president hassan rouhani says it will be business as usual for its iran the trumpet ministration is re imposing sanctions that were originally lifted as part of the twenty fifty nuclear agreement to move ahead hundreds of businesses including those from countries linked with to iran. because parliamentary speaker says he will not accept mahinda rajapakse as the new prime minister until he sees proof he commands a majority in parliament this development comes as president ordered m.p.'s to reconvene on november the fourteenth last week he fired prime minister run overcome a single and replaced him with former president rajapaksa china's president has promised to open up access to markets and make business easier for foreign

companies xi jinping made the pledges the open to trade fair in shanghai aimed at helping the country's image as an importer she also criticized those pushing protectionist trade policies those are the headlines on al-jazeera back to talk to al-jazeera next then it's the news hour i'll see you then. my now we had one of the highest rates of maternal mortality in the world. but over the last decade a country wide initiative to encourage women to receive. and to give birth in health facilities has seen some dramatic improvement if it was not

a good one at that. i would never say yes. they're going to get it. did you know what you forwarded it to go to but i am on that we've got some of that statistics show that in only twelve months doctor and the midwives hospital have managed to cut by more than half both maternal and newborn deaths. now the pressure is on to sustain and enhanced these improvements. someone for what it. is will do it i want to. see that me too many many different lives.

if. if. if. if if the money if. i. buy. it is to believe that to fill me with the study and give a caveat that if you begin to be. physically. place them and putting them together like you know holding the fourth wall so you're going to sleep but they were at all save a life even if just two is too too strong

a story wide. it would set a powerful. station passing the message of passing the message over. giving beth. i just. don't get it. i did end up on one but one beat it you made you want it so what do you. know what it is i saw one of the ten that we go already. i cared about sort of motherhood from the age of us i had it from chief quite a high as way. to report to you that the figures are going down the. the

message he was telling us is that we have to implement this in our own abilities so that annoy ladies we mean should fall down the main or the social take but for this thing to wake women a head about greece i say wall no it's a very difficult i came to understand god nor the system the order in the us you know let us go with the technology of nowadays because i believe and i still believe that it's a real that those orden days we used to lose our lives do seem to want to give me warning you got to go right to our moods and more do are made for the woods behind . for me to this change was for the people to understand that it is it is it true that when you go to the hospital the lady who is pregnant

will deliver properly their new will indeed to battle. it was good i mean it was neat. that you be able then it will get up. there women's group in the village helps pregnant women with them. including improving their diet and the men have joined them. maybe being involved in the issues of safety is what we see here their women plus their men there in the garden they are telling their ground so that they should prompt their vision was i'm to give the fish to the pregnant woman so of a man in this village also taking. because they have and they know about their men

also should be taking part in issues of. good honest with them he said. i don't need. a number of traditional used to restrict what a pregnant woman could eat eggs and pork for example were forbidden and in. the first grade it is for the women the pregnant creamy in this room in their home and in the division and distribute to the trigger community and put it to its. margaret who lost her previous newborn baby at one week has benefited from the god what do. you want to know it's. to the.

group of. the good. simple that is when is it. when it's going to the us is over some power. and i am i think. i'm. back in boy in a hospital gladys his labor is still not progressing. would you just sit on them was. wonderful moments from home my mom will say that and then the. focus so i would see it the. way it did.

the first baby was delivered by a traditional birth attendants had home if she'd had the same problem then she and the baby could have died but even here shortages of vital resources could still put her life at risk yeah ok what's up lies what drugs a place will be no but asians or even i believe this just to take patients to want to be doctor sources that become big mcdermott because they want. to come when no one. made their wills but i doubt it's a little bit of good money this no it's one thing to know it's like oh no you need to be on what should they do what you said to this woman. and there's no blood they didn't people use it move for even just one no blood so this is no this is a bit of this. for them i get it done i don't know death.

and maybe our local blood you'd love to hear did you know. seven out of the noblest guesses. when you have such a gift is there you have a few minutes to save but maybe one of the critical things will go on move that will be black. but in this occasion we will let you know i've been asked. to meet every fish in from the female i want. this fish interest to him it could be no two point four which is pretty critical. they telling you that we do not have sufficient blood to be able to sustain that well in the rock but we have a muscle that i need fine weather as well as day on and basically off to money dental when the next if when you will. it was very disappointing to go round the whole country blazing or the community to go to the

first he did and did to some other drugs or for not found at that facility. in theater gladys's zarian is going smoothly her decision to deliver in the hospital may well have saved her life. with the miles up. the. oil money which was the only. thing.

i do love didn't is the racist people they do know that in this business. sometimes you don't want anybody to go and i mean yeah. i mean i did my treatment think oh. you know i'm not really to my friends on that mental is that men are numbered as to each ok in my house arrest queens. they were considered to be something very abnormal so they would do let them stay in the bush maybe for a month where scored but a wi fi interventions on the community might deny new born care people are coming to get eyes that that was being aware and now this baby its i being cared within the community is. evelyn trained health assistance in low cost care that can dramatically improve the survival of babies after birth. of

a room. with. someone in town as man got them home i mean. almost pure this is not political so really if. they gave this. one. of the interesting enough of. it it. would be as you know this explained to you that there is going to defect and it's going to. really wanted. to do traditionally people were putting data on the. today only it was a bike made seem to help the stump but we know if it were the stump least direct

entry over jim's into the broad stream so that would end up in the infectious data . interface. who. was he's going to. have would be intervening. ok thank you very much i'm going to bring them to. me that we're going to give. in bleiler hospital the commitment that no woman should die while giving birth is often tested especially when there are delays in their getting to the hospital. every death is understood as a systems failure and is often taken personally when the mother dies we have to actually look what happened why did the mother die. where was this if you know where was my rule what would i have done to me that all my dear life.

if a facility is experience the number of maternal death or not or death would produce soup that under the carpet then would be as they ensured a truly keeley lives women will come later because a third of this development it is not an issue or was not done what is an issue or loudly for much of the parents who have to complete vent another day from mockery and then who can do that the only way we can live is to be able to be honest with ourselves and be harnessed we the way we report that are there we tell people that this is easy and then it can be addressed from there. every month the label would team run to the mortality review to better understand the deaths of mothers and newborns in the hospital this mother. the first there would have been no doubt because these were high risk mother who should not have been left in the hands of a mass what would you think would have led to this worked what would have worked

and what made it so difficult for the middle of to deliver the baby was that premature to this world if we did business with this sixty. minutes that chap's just checking. i strongly advocate for one s.d. what is it especially when dealing with with the doctor and because of the dealing with patients it was an issue of life and death you know what would kill someone. well you know what could save someone depending on how you put it. when you're. a wise woman. in the hospital these are written by the family themselves either a man or

a woman upon hearing from the chief the messages that do impress to them during the meeting or the messages that they keep wondering getting in their minds. listening from the chifley you know messages that's when they come under write a message on the wall to or for passage or other us this is now the message which says men should get involved in this if mother programs now here it is safe or pregnant women should report it with hospital i did a. do it for the delivery these are fairly effective just because from time immemorial most of these messages were just hanging along the roads where just the hanging in the hospital was we have money to get all those messages now down to the communities under people i guess what in quite well. i think you know is on around again. she's visiting margaret who's approaching her eighth month of pregnancy

soon margaret will leave your village for the nearest waiting home eighteen kilometers away. cities will meet with dignity and differently from here on all. their lives in a good deal while women of what's in the case. i would see you i have been among them a good you know that and assume we're close because in the summary i was number to my cousin. look it up you know working with davis is c.n.n. we're going to see if you're going to how we there's a little we will get to that. it was going to get worked out well but i will go with. margaret will spend a month at a maternal home like this one in the grounds of salema hospital out. this way she is sure to deliver in the facility. the women here fend for themselves for weeks

while they wait to deliver. in one of the poorest countries in the world the government is battling to fulfill its pledge to build one hundred and fifty new waiting homes across the country. was. i was reading that i do wonder trying to decide if one has a man is not already back in upon him as an oven or girl you have a lot of other again. was that you know. something.

i. just. think he. was i just didn't i. wasn't burned or not you know well no. no. i get my money i was going over them on. the money when i was you know on my not on my car was. that my god was someone i don't. know yet plus the message that we've been seeing. doing role plays moving around the village is.

ok. and that. is. because for one priest song it was not possible for them to deliver their message and also be by the community but because they go over to give that as a group they are able to call me to get to the masses and there it would have been you saying thank you. and i. one of the challenge is the issue of more media saw us make under we asked from our

fair law dormouse to provide us with the best bless the men purpose of this is to transfer the pregnant women to go i'm daily via. your phone no one willing to nobody mottola noting that equality as members. one on one no wouldn't. there's a one as a put in i'm going to cause a visitor and we know where you were. ten years ago when you stand in the. because that i wouldn't go to. because of what i'm going to. because of what. because of what he did look for me here before you know would as i was in do you know what it would be for you but i don't. even know what do. you know with

me but you. know what my. attendance. this week is the fact that. there were so many. people have started. to me.

out of the. business it was going to save that baby. and maybe just enjoy it just to be able to see. mothers of my. baby after it is sort of fresh. because. life. let's go back. hired a one hundred one to learn a lot of with and among the. mean i would say that in my view the north is a bit it was a. new earth in the world other than a bit in which it was less than twenty seven all of us a feign. death. i am.

a disease so stigmatized that those suffering are still shunned by society people is strong on their penley from village did from their wives and then they don't have a place in the whole war what can be done so that they are no longer outcasts in that own community al-jazeera meets the health workers who are challenging al-qaeda attitudes and working tirelessly to combat leprosy in india lifelines ancient enemy.

by the springtime flowers of a mountain lake. to the first snowfall on a winter's day. and the heaviest rain has indeed moved north since some brazil were eighty five millimeters in land and a bit further north from the capital but the line of cloud extends up to showers right up towards the equality on notice and it is spreading further science of where it's believed in the last twenty four hours and the breakout of the fish as the south of that into northern argentina i think we'll see some significant rain here more in southern brazil and of course that line of showers take you up to beyond quito north of the equator and there are very few showers left in venezuela colombia but there are some equally throughout the caribbean despite the breeze we got a few of a master class

a few showers just east of hate in dominican republic but not much else even down in panama city as wet as it was it's mexico's been the focus recently just off shore from mexico there is a small tropical storm but beyond that the showers are fewer as well if you watch the energies up in the u.s. itself where the cold winter's been kept a long way indoors but we've had incursions acoa through the rockies that's always cloud here and a very obvious system on the eastern seaboard which is on its way offshore so bit of an unpleasant day in new york day on shore breeze i think was rain but this line here could well develop through the eastern plains moving eastwards. the weather sponsored by qatar airways. in the eighteen seventy's hundreds of will genia as were banished to the farthest corner of an empire where their descendents still live today. my grandparents died with a heavy heart they left everything behind. you don't deal with lame argyria and

identity it's always present inside as this french territory in the pacific prepares to vote on independence al-jazeera world tells the story of exile in new caledonia after one of greece's deadliest forest fires turned a blissful coastal town into a bloody hell people in power asks whether the flames will find institutional incompetence the number one responsibility. is protecting the citizens was not an accident it was a crime but maybe the fire is the real symbol the greece is big enough to take but still scared of the fallout on al jazeera. this is al-jazeera.

you're watching the news hour live from headquarters and i'm dead coming up in the next sixty minutes the u.n. examined saudi arabia's human rights record as more questions are raised over the kingdom's involvement in the murder of journalist. defiance from iran as the u.s. reinstates all three nuclear deal sanctions. vows to continue selling its own oil a pay per tail accusations that millions of americans are being denied the right to vote in the midterm elections and i'm here to stand with all your sports from the ring to the octagon boxer floyd mayweather announces he'll fight for japanese mixed martial arts star will it's slow or how code cross are becoming big business. hello the murder of journalism is under the spotlight in geneva that's as the u.n.

human rights council conducts its review of saudi arabia so the saudi delegation has face questioning by some of the member states over her death the u.s. condemned the premeditated killing and called for a transparent investigation meanwhile turkey's vice president has urged investigators to look into reports that these killers may have used acid to dissolve his body dots as new revelations come to light in turkish media the newspaper is saying members of a saudi team sent to istanbul to investigate these killing instead focused on removing evidence and in a televised interview because of the sons have said that their family is unable to grieve properly without knowing where his body is let's cross over to paul brennan he's joining us from geneva and what has the saudi delegation said when it comes to the killing. that during that the timing of this working group

could scarcely be more opportune in the sense that this is a long shot jeweled opportunity to grill saudi arabia about its human rights record but it's lent great relevance and poignancy by the murder of jamal khashoggi and that's certainly colored the questioning of the various nations that were assembled in the room behind me this morning and what saudi arabia said was that it was pushing forward with human rights reforms it said that it was issuing a role to creese that there were laws that had been passed protecting children's rights empowering women and basically pushing forward a human rights agenda through vision twenty thirty the crown prince of strategy but again and again they were questioned about jamal khashoggi and how it could possibly be that a murder in those kind of circumstances could comply with human rights legislation we're going to hear first from saudi arabia talking about jamal khashoggi and then from australia who basically gave a flavor of the question in the fall of afterwards. and. the kingdom of saudi

arabia has already expressed its regret and pain for the death of. king on the ninety's as it has already instructed the prosecution to proceed with the investigation into this case according to the applicable laws and preparation to reaching all the facts and bringing more the perpetrators to justice to the facts to live probably. a stray or deploys the killing of jamal khashoggi reports that the killing was premeditated a deeply alarming astray or recommend saudi arabia fully cooperates with investigations related to the killing of krishnaji implements legislation that holds to account government officials who preach the law and takes further measures to guarantee freedom of opinion and expression and this is a periodic review paul so what other issues are being discussed. a wide

range of issues and i think what you're seeing here in geneva today is that the not the floodgates but certainly the door has been pushed a jar because of jamal khashoggi there was criticism of a wide range of the realities of saudi arabian life from a whole number of nations which you suspect might not have previously wanted to be critical of saudi arabia strategic allies such as the united kingdom and the united states both came forward with strong criticisms of saudi arabia domestic policy i give you a flavor of it the united states said they condemn the premeditated killing of because they urge saudi arabia to defy narrowly defined terrorism and terror so that it doesn't also encompass freedom of assembly in the kingdom and they said at the un the u.k. also was extremely strong as well condemning the jamal khashoggi killing and urging saudi arabia to do more on things like women's emancipation and particularly the

use of the death penalty in saudi arabia which is sometimes used against people who committed crimes while they were under the age of eighteen so this kind of opened up a much broader criticism of saudi arabia far beyond jamal khashoggi and the three hour session i think was quite uncomfortable for the saudi delegation in sight all right up auburn and thank you paul's giving us the update from geneva let's now cross over to the scene of the crime and speak to has a man but he's following developments from istanbul so as we're saying has some there have been new revelations that have now come to light in turkish media so new leaks effectively and also that circus vice president has been speaking did he say anything about what turkey's next steps are when it comes to the investigation. well there in the to his vice president for out of time is basically reiterating the position of turkey which is the need for side to review to come out explicitly and say who gave the order to kill develop houses because obviously the joint buy into the narrative that this was the work of some members of the intelligence

community or their death squad that arrived in istanbul and he was also expressing some concerns about what could have could have happened to the remains of the model hostages which. raising the possibility of his body being immersed into i think he was basically referring to the string of revelations employee and statements we've seen over the last few days from senior members of the government talking about the possibility of his body being destroyed this is something that has been mentioned also again in unique to this daily newspaper talking about a clean up team that arrived on the ninth of october almost seven days after the death of the model. and that two members of that team that arrived eleven members two of them were one one of them was an expert.

and the sixty second one was a toxicology test his name is how did you hear. donnie and the according to a newspaper they managed to get into the. a resident of the consulate you see behind be and also the consul's resident before turkish investigators managed to get into those two locations raising many concerns about the turkish government that these two key players of this so-called clean up team could have been tasked with one task which is to destroy the remains of the battle but still talking about allegations old we don't know to what extent they've been able within seven days to destroy all the remains of the battle or are there any other past that managed to be taken away from the both locations into other places these are questions that the investigators here in turkey are grappling with they're really in need of

answers and has a meanwhile. the sons have been speaking out for the first time really and they spoke to american media what message where are they sending out. it quite interesting that we're staying away from anything little consideration not talking at all about the famous meeting between one of the sons with the crown prince will have been. and they were basically saying that they cannot grieve normally like any other family first of all completely traumatized by the horrendous killing about those details the gruesome details of the dismembering of their father but also they said that they want to honor one of the wishes of their father wishes to be buried in the holy city of in saudi arabia but it's a family struggling to find answers about what happened to their father less this

into one what one of the sons had to say or what we want. is to bring him back here. within medina with his with that as of his family in saudi arabia conservative yes i talk to talk about that with. the saudi authorities and. i just hope that it happens. but you need to find somebody needs to find his his body yes. i think that the sessions are going. to be hopeful about that. so to sum up the whole situation i mean the turkish government has been talking to the past about the need for sandy arabia to help them identify the whereabouts of the remains of. now they're talking more and more about the possibility of his body

being destroyed we should mean is that perhaps in the future his family won't be able to deliver on the promise to be able to bury their father in the city of the same time that turkish government says it is taken this situation seriously and that it's all to be to go to force size the arabia to say who gave the order to kill jamal has to see the real ok president thank you very much let's not speak to my chair like he's a political news editor a daily newspaper in istanbul joining us live from there via skype so that is really the question that has just raised for the turkish government they want to know who gave the order to kill. a month actually more than a month after that killing in istanbul is the turkish government any closer on finding out. i think turkish government is doing its best to basically continued this investigation with its from a transparent and

a serious manner. but i'm afraid so far all the answers are in the hands of her yet because if we are saying that this is a pre-planned killing clepe preplanned murder then there are several question that needs to be answered first of all we do turkish government and vice president thought of titles are we to eat it today asking where is the body ok if the body is missing then in riyadh if needs to answer where the body is because this is has been said by saudi officials and took a shellfish and that this is a preplanned murder. now secondly if this is a preplanned murder who did the x. and the execution who was the decision maker at the highest level is this question that turkey seeks an answer for so with regards to the details that turkish investigators were able to achieve from the investigation at the scene turkey has already done its power.