but i can say is that over the past two hours these waves have targeted many. resistance training camps and many buildings which have led to the palestinians are so far and their injury will go on a number of other others. but let me also recall what happened last night in which an israeli undercover. raid into the gaza strip that led to the seven palestinians one of them is a senior hamas commander who was killed by the israeli special units and also the injury of many others are right now it seems to me that it's a little it's simic our own situation but that's not the end of it it seems to me that we are going to witness a very hot night this as a result of the unwilling. rocket and israeli.

is this what you expected given the events as you described of last night you know well what can us and the so-called joint a minute joint military whom that that which is going prices have a system of jihad and other palestinian resistance to groups they are saying that the mansion will rockets again just as are eighty thousand villages this evening was a normal accommodation for the especially as wave the. opposition last night which led to the seven palestinians as i mentioned one of them is a senior of us a commander would then as it is again because some brigades. but it lit me also are remind you to do is that the mass is not interested in

another minute to this commission. or hamas is not interested in provoking israel but i must feel that they are under pressure from the palestinians and especially from the other out of palestinian resistance in grooves that there has to be retaliating against this israeli raid into the gaza strip because the egyptians and and. you and have been mediating a ceasefire between imus and israel over the past few weeks which led to these radio approval to allow fuel into the gaza strip but also qatari money to pay salaries for hamas employees in gaza but hamas feels that the israelis violated these understanding's by going into the gaza strip and killing palestinians even so the staying busy of that this is part of their normal retaliating against israel but those gains made over the last few weeks and months people in gaza won't want

to lose them either will they are i'm sort of could you could you say that again just saying that those gains that you talked about the fuel that have been coming in the more electricity that have been in gaza those the gains that the people of gaza will not want to lose. what definitely the palestinians have been suffering as a result of lack of electricity for the past two years at least and also hamas has been. facing a very serious financial crisis over the past five years since the new to jim came to power in egypt but the palestinians are not in any way i read it to trade their dignity their freedom for for money and fuel for the part of station. that existence or groups feel that they are obligated. to retaliate against any is way to violations of the cease fire taken into consideration that they would

definitely like to keep the coming will of qatar if you. money to pay the salaries of palestinian employees in gaza. joining us from gaza thank you feel times that it's my pleasure sir thank you coming up on al-jazeera the rest of the day's news as the british foreign secretary meets the saudi king pressure growing on the kingdom to act of it the jamal khashoggi takes. i. hello there we've got a lot of unsettled weather across the middle east at the moment for look at the satellite picture we can see plenty of cloud from the black sea all the way down into the northern parts of iran we're seeing a fair amount of rain out of this system and then there's another one further towards the east giving us wet weather through tell you could stand through kyrgyzstan and up into kazakstan as that system clears away we'll see things total

cool a force here so on marty's maximum on choose day will only be minus five towards the west staying fairly unsettled force even as we head through tuesday and wednesday that wet weather beginning to pop up a bit further south now as well so for us in parts of syria and eastern turkey it will turn wet a pretty cool as well before this was the south and of course we've had a lot of thunderstorms here these bitches a from doha sharing the storms that we've had that was just a few minutes and that was only paid on the road maybe about twenty minutes or half an hour but it shows you how heavy the rain is if it can cause that kind of accumulation in such a short amount of time and we are seeing more showers at the moment but i think as we head through the next few days the main focus of the wet weather would just push a bit further towards the north say for the northeastern parts of saudi is where we're expecting the wettest of the weather on cheese day and then that will gradually work its way through parts of kuwait and into the southwest parts of iran for wednesday.

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help stories for you this hour on al-jazeera less than twenty four hours now after a secret israeli military operation in gaza killed seven palestinians and one israeli soldier about hours of rockets has been fired from gaza into israel and israeli officials say at least one hundred rockets were fired from gaza many intercepted by the missile defense system one however did hit a bus another hit a house in southern israel that military says it's carrying out an strikes in the gaza strip in response and at least three palestinians have been killed. some of the day's other news now in a suicide bomber has launched an attack near a protest in kabul killing at least six people members of the ethnic minority group the roads were asking the government for greater protection after a series of recent attacks especially the name as the latest. target was this group of protester. but according to media reports afghan forces were able to stop a suicide bomber before he reached the demonstrators not before who detonated his

explosives. at least three people they died earlier on monday there were calls for peace and protection in kabul we actually have raised our voice because we need security when security and it's disposability of the government i was subjected to discrimination for generation of. the hayes are a community wants to ensure its voices are heard after a series of attacks by the taliban since last week was almost word of five five days that the children approach to be modest on and so there is going to. yeah that attack of taliban troops and you know. one hundred fifty people are killed but there is no action taken by the government to look gunnison on the afghan forces have increased ground and air attacks against the taliban in two

districts in the southeastern province of gaza me the has are as a shiite minority group dominate the districts they've been fighting the taliban who are sunni muslims. this has raised fears of a spike in sectarian violence in the war weary country and concerns the government isn't doing enough it's not only tribal whole suffered the same thing would they complain but it's of the country suffering the same thing every day with afghan security forces just paying a high price it would have to skew this country the afghan army chief says it's already lost soldiers additional ground troops are being deployed to cause any province and u.s. forces are assisting the offensive by air natasha going to al-jazeera.

persia's growing on saudi arabia to reveal the details of journalist jamal. merger the u.k. foreign secretary jeremy hunt is in riyadh and he met king solomon there urging the kingdom to fully cooperate with turkish investigators and also speaking in paris the canadian prime minister justin trudeau says his government is working with what he calls like minded allies over the fair we continue to be engaged with our allies on the investigation into accountability for the murder of jamal khashoggi and we are in discussions with our like minded allies as to next steps toward saudi arabia despite the u.s. president donald trump's claims to have neutralize north korea's nuclear threat it appears pyongyang is moving ahead with its ballistic missile program sixteen hidden bases mostly scattered in remote mountainous areas have been identified in the u.s. think tank report based on new commercial satellite images while pyongyang has

offered to dismantle a major launching site it's continued to make improvements at more than a dozen others this is a network long known to u.s. intelligence agencies but which north korea has never acknowledged more on this with rosalyn jordan following the story from washington d.c. i guess the key with these sorts of things rose is whether the president is actually going to believe them or not he has a testing relationship with the intelligence community. well this report as you know it come all comes from the think tank c.s.i. although it is the project that oversaw this report is led by a man who was once in the running to be the u.s. ambassador to south korea his name is victor cha mr cha and his colleagues at c.s.i.s. have taken a look at this commercial satellite imagery and they have a deduced as you said that there are sixteen facilities where the north korean government is still continuing to test and to develop conventional and nuclear

missiles and and warheads this is something that is that critics have been warning about that the trumpet ministration has not done enough to actually ensure that it would keep its promise to no longer develop either its nuclear weapons program or its conventional weapons program for that matter what's going to be the real problem knell for the trumpet ministration is trying to get the north koreans to basically stop what they are doing because there have been a lot of promises made to pyongyang that if it does give up its nuclear weapons program that it could possibly enter the international community but there are no such ironclad promises on the ground the meeting between the u.s. president and kim jong il and back earlier this year in singapore did not yield any come close of or detailed agreement where the north koreans would have to

promise to give up their weapons program and that of course includes allowing in international inspections unplanned unscheduled unannounced they haven't made that promise and so it really isn't surprising that this sort of work has continued ok thank you for that update rosalynn jordan in washington. catholic bishops gathering for their annual general assembly have just decided they will delay for at least several months any action on proposed new steps to address the clergy sex abuse crisis this move is in response to a request from the vatican comes as well at the same time as the justice department expands its investigation into child sexual abuse by priests castor has a report. within the walls of each of the one hundred forty five diocese that form the us catholic church are the secret archives containing the clergy most confidential and sensitive records could they contain more evidence of priests

sexually abusing children and the actions to cover it up that's what the us department of justice wants to know we've been trying to get this investigation going survivors and victims for years we asked year after year for this evidence is vote after vote of evidence the department of justice is request addressed to the president of the u.s. conference of catholic bishops asks church personnel to not destroy discard dispose of delete or alter any documents related to sexual abuse investigations that includes documents about the transfer of abusive priests from one community to another xan go already says that's what happened to the priest who abused him in catholic school. protected. and allowed man three my friends and i is very dear to help things in the rectory pack up the car and go to the new parish and the new school and spend the first night in the new rectory with them and he was being

transferred for sexually abusing two brothers those sexual abuse allegations against u.s. catholic priests first surfaced in the one nine hundred eighty s. long foresman renewed its scrutiny this year beginning with a pennsylvania grand jury report that documented the abuse of more than one thousand victims by three hundred priests in that state alone priests were raped raping little boys and girls and the men of god who were responsible for them not only did nothing they hid it all for decades now thirteen states and washington d.c. have launched investigations into church sex abuse and cover up that is in addition to the federal probe by the department of justice the church has a fully cooperating. even if thousands of you can't have an merged in landing their belated just. castro out of here. with us on skype from ron jeremy connell

who is the vatican affairs correspondent for america magazine mr o'connell do you know anything first of all about this new line that the bishops have decided they would delay for at least several months any action on on the proposed new steps here it would seem that delays would be the last thing they made the decision to delay the vote was taken in response to a request from the bed again the pope francis has quote has recognize the seriousness of this problem not just for the united states but for countries around the world and next february twenty one twenty fourth february is called the presidents of all the bishops conferences from about one hundred thirty countries to come to the vatican for some days to discuss together and to strategize a way to eliminate this from the church in every country not just in the united

states so what the vatican didn't want at this particular moment was for the united states just to jump and make decisions on protocols where maybe more severe ones are required or maybe other countries need to be brought in on the on the decision now we take sorry to interrupt you do we take it then that this pope is taking the whole issue far more seriously and wants to go after the entire problem not just addressing the symptoms almost as it were. absolutely and i should say one other thing that most of the cases that are or have emerged in the united states and the you mentioned the pennsylvania report just earlier they mostly d. go back to before two thousand and two when the united states bishops introduced protocols which determined that if a priest abused one child he was

a removed immediately reboot removed from the priesthood what the bishops did not do then and what they're proposing to do now is have something similar accountability for the bishops themselves they have excluded themselves from that protocol and now it is becoming very evident that the bishops have a responsibility some of them have abused. and he of them have covered up and what the pope francis did about a year ago he introduced legislation that a bishop can be removed from his office if he has neglected to protect children or if he has covered up and of course if he has abused yeah and now in february he's he's decided this is not a problem for the just for the angle for the world for the english speaking world light australia the united states britain but it's

a global problem that's touching the whole of the catholic church and the pope wants to deal with it as a global issue put it as a priority or resolution to assure that this problem is eliminated terror connel thank you so much for your time to appreciate talking to you thank you. just to quickly running to the headlines now less than twenty four hours after a secret israeli military. operation in gaza left seven palestinians and one israeli dead about hours of rockets has been fired from gaza into israel israeli officials say at least two hundred rockets were fired from gaza many intercepted by missile defense systems one of the rockets did hit a bus though another hit a house in southern israel israeli military says it's carrying out air strikes throughout the gaza strip in response and at least three palestinians have been

killed despite u.s. president donald trump's claims to have neutralized north korea's nuclear threat it seems pyongyang is moving ahead with its missile program sixteen hidden bases counted in remote mountainous areas have been identified in a u.s. think tank report based on new commercial satellite images while pyongyang's offer to dismantle a major launching site it has continued to make improvements at more than a dozen other sites. now pressure is growing on saudi arabia to reveal the details of journalist jamal khashoggi s murder the u.k. foreign secretary jeremy hunt has arrived in riyadh and met with king solomon he's urging the kingdom to fully cooperate with turkish investigators and speaking in paris the canadian prime minister justin trudeau says his government is working well with what he calls like minded allies over the case in front of the u.s. has renewed its call for an end to the civil war in yemen some reports say at least

one hundred fifty people have been killed in just the past twenty four hours street battles are brought chaos to residential areas in that main port city of data with thousands of civilians trapped by the ongoing fighting that's a look at your headlines here on al-jazeera we're back with the news hour right after inside story. a european army it was an idea proposed by man rolled back wrong held by vladimir putin that attack donald trump does europe need its own military and can it do without for u.s. and matters of defense this is inside story.

and welcome to the program i'm richelle carey french president. in the u.s. president donald trump have been at odds on many issues this week that divide went further when president mccrone appeared to call for the creation of a european army says europe needs to defend itself against potential threats from nations including russia china and even the united states but it's not just about defense the two leaders differ on almost every issue trump has pulled out of a number of global treaties from climate change to the iran nuclear deal and recently the disarmament treaty with russia has repeatedly emphasized the need for a global order and rejection of nationalism it made the call during sunday's remembrance ceremony in paris to mark the one hundredth anniversary of the end of the first world war. ves you want to fast. that have this vision of

france as a generous nation with a vision which carries universal values has been in those dark times exactly the opposite of the selfishness of a people which only looks at its own interests because patriotism is the exact opposite of nationalism nationalism is its betrayal by saying our interests first and never mind the other is your race what is most precious to a nation. as president donald trump attacked the idea of a european army in a tweet before leaving for france on friday this is what he wrote president micron of france has just suggested that europe build its own military in order to protect itself from the us russia and china very insulting but perhaps europe should first pay its fair share of nato which the us subsidizes greatly russian president vladimir putin welcome the idea of a european army during a television interview. as to alternative european military forces it's not

a new idea president mccrone has revived it now but i was told about it by one of the previous run for president it's europe is a great economic power a great economic union so it's quite natural that they want to be independent self-reliant and sovereign in the sear of defense and security according to the stockholm international peace research institute global military spending reached one point seven three nine trillion dollars last year in europe alone it's accounted for three hundred forty two billion that is twenty percent of the total global spending four of the fifteen largest military spenders in the world are in western europe that's france the u.k. germany and italy breaking this down france's spending between two thousand and sixteen and two thousand and seventeen fell by nearly two percent to fifty seven point eight billion all britain's military spending rose by point five percent to forty seven point two billion last year and germany's military spending went up by three and a half percent to forty four point three billion its highest level since one nine

hundred ninety nine. let's bring in our guests now and joining us from paris is we're no it's our chief foreign correspondent a life ago newspaper and professor of strategy at paris school of international affairs and washington d.c. david associate professor at the national defense university and a former pentagon official and in moscow glenn dyson a professor of a. national relations at higher school of economics from moscow and author of the decay of western civilization and research and of russia welcome to all of you so. let's revisit the words of the man will not grown from yesterday when he said patriotism is the exact opposite of nationalism nationalism is a betrayal of patriotism he went on to say our first interests who cares about the cares about the others i mean start with you or no what do you make of. the words the timing the setting. i think what is important is that. i'm

a coin paris wanted to defend multilateralism. in front of trump that actually rejects multilateralism we have seen that for climate change us in that for iran with a scene that for i.m.f. and many other treaties. is things britain macor things that european union is the most important creation political creation of the post-war era when donald trump criticizes. your opinion as being some kind of jail for the nations of europe so there is really two opposite views on that and it's true that.

things that they see in american threat not like the military usual military threat because of course france and america are allied in nato but is things that europe is threatened on the buy on cyber war by china russia and the united states and as a matter of fact you know that the ne z. palace in paris has been hacked it was in two thousand and twelve during the presidential election between you know succors yen or on any simple as had been hacked by the american and as a national security agency which has got badgered of twelve billion dollars so yes prison michael thinks that there is a threat of cyber espionage our cyber war from. america to you it

all up and he wants you to answer to that but yes ok all right we will we will come back to that i mean just now but i want to put the same question to david what do you make of. that crohn's words and who else might he been have been addressing besides just on a trump well you know it's very interesting donald trump's unpopularity in europe gives european leaders a real challenge whenever he comes here which is you have to be just polite enough that he won't create an incident and storm out but for your domestic audience you kind of have to show that you're standing up to him but i think that. remarks were aimed not so much at trump but first off at merkel who is fatally wounded and i think that this represents some macross position to assert to put france in leadership of europe in place of germany now that merkel is limping towards

a finish line which so listen but not that you want and she'll survive till i make sure i'm clear what you're saying though not calling her out on patriotism versus nationalism per se not that but you mean just making such a grand statement in such a setting as that what you mean that's exactly right and the second thing is i think macron domestically you know the bloom is off the rose in france and i think what he's trying to do is use his position as a world leader surrounded by world leaders to try to discredit various nationalist parties like the you know rally nasional marine le pen's movements victor or ban in hungary those sorts of things that's what i think he's after ok all right glenn you actually said that most countries have have both tab a combination of nationalism and patriotism not necessarily the same balance what do you mean by that. nationalism and patriotism they're not synonyms about them across is incorrect in terms of stating that they're complete opposites nationalism tends to to refer. if no cultural identity while

a patriotism tends to refer to civic identity so values and moral ety no country has ever had either or there's always been a balance of both and usually that's what prosperous societies do have they have a they have a balance of both so. i don't think that. this is saying that nationalism is the opposite of patriotism is not correct i think that there is some caution towards nationalism us it's been the source of war however it's worth noting that nationalism is able to harbor some very powerful loyalties in terms of restoring both meaning and security to people so it's also the reason why countries go to war but it's also the reason why people are willing to give their life in wars as well so stripping countries of this also entails eroding them to a great extent of national identity so i don't i just don't see any country in the history of the world is only relied on a civic identity it without

a nationalist component not a prosperous country at least but a think this reflects this move towards populism because over the last twenty thirty years there's been a huge push towards more globalism and i guess civic ideals while the nation state has been seen as something to be overcome especially in the in the realm of this project so i think that this is this populist rise is a response to it in which they see the world now as being nationalist versus this global cosmopolitanism and i think that's where trump is coming from and i think that the mccrone. attacking it but i don't think it's completely correct in terms of. putting them against each other and nationalism is also not doesn't contradict their multilateralism either us nation states do cooperate with in a sara lee sharing the same ideals and values. bringing back into this donald trump

you know clearly stated recently that he is a nationalist but when it and that's often what his rhetoric depicts right but when it comes to actual policy. for the most part u.s. foreign policy is still fairly traditional it's not really lining up with his rhetoric re right well you know he trump is not a political scientist he's not a traditional politician so he uses these phrases in precisely and he uses them in ways to evoke emotion rather than. if you go down the line of following the logical implications and explaining that it's a fool's mission i think that his view on foreign relations is that multi-lateralism is fine we're happy to do that but not if it is a vehicle for lesser powers like france to constrain the united states which has not just a great power but also has global responsibilities and quite frankly cannot meet

its global responsibilities were advance its interests globally if multi-lateralism becomes a restraint on it and that's really the fundamental organizing principle of trump's international relations it's not america first at all expense it's america. in order to meet its obligations and american were needed so expect asians so no i mean you mentioned a while ago just at the beginning of the conversation we were talking about the army that men will call for. is it were his words do you think misconstrued it seemed at first that it was you know he was calling for a european army against the u.s. but that's not quite what he meant what do you think he he really meant no it's not to build an army against the u.s. because. michael is agreeing with nato france has been an ally of the united states of america for the last two center. is and it. and michael will not

jeopardize this alliance and we are in a military alliance call nato this will not be questioned but there is also the field of cyber war and in the cyber space yes europe have been attacked by by by russia by china for you know technological industrial spying and also by america because we know that the it is a palace in paris as been act by the end as a the national security agency of america in two thousand and twelve in april two thousand and twelve so mcconnell doesn't want does. is not scared by any threat of a military u.s. a gratian against europe of course not but it's saying that they see a matter on the cyber spate of cyber war and he wants

a strategic answer from your op to the cyber offensives by china russia and america all nationalist regimes i just want to say that that milton at that or they don't like multilateralism as we saw that you were before the second world war we had like germany japan and italy we had nationalized regimes who didn't like and who destroyed and who left all the middle to that terrible institutions of the time i'm speaking of course of lots of shit in a city glenn do you agree with that assessment from a no that that promise talking about a cyber war well i think micron left some deliberate strategic ambiguity within his comment because he obviously wants to take

a swipe by. trump i guess they're peons i felt a bit insulted by trump over the last year or so they would like to think that both for the mystical audience but also for a bit of a push back there some incentive to come with a little insult i guess i don't think actually that the french wants to build an army against the americans of course i would never push back on the european union's multilateralism though it's it doesn't really it does push it sometimes in the global stare but in the regional serious fashion when it comes to relations with russia i haven't really seen any multilateral initiatives if anything the e.u. tends to try to use the collective strength of its twenty eight member states for a symmetrical leverage against any of its partner especially russia then so i think this multilateralism is more on the global fear and david in an article in the new york times that was summing up the last few days paris and there's a line that says no one has done more to break up the post-war global system in the

last couple of years than mr trump and mr putin do you agree with that. or agree with the putin part of it the trump one i don't think so i think that what you're seeing is not so much you see the rhetoric of breaking up but that's businessmen techniques if i don't get a deal i'm walking away out of the rent but dave a look at the actual actions that david yeah hurts words matter diplomacy matters particularly words from the president of the united states he seems to often be tougher on his allies than he is on say russia or blot him or putin yeah yeah that's a common critique and i think it's a fair one but you know the cliche from the election was that his critics take him literally but not seriously and his allies take him seriously but not literally and i got to tell you if you take this president literally you're going to go crazy because he doesn't speak in

a litter. no way he doesn't have the precise language of you know of a diplomat he he speaks to america's heartland he's not about scrapping these regimes but there is a common you know consensus in america why should we be more concerned about europe's defenses than the europeans that's where he comes from but you know prior to the election there was all this talk that was going to pull the united states out of nato you have to desegregate negotiating stances which again are more in common with a businessman than with a diplomat from his actual policies and the policies have not been that far outside of the mainstream of american foreign policy and lattimer putin and says that. kind of likes the idea that mccrone and he's not the first person to have brought this up this idea of a european army why would lattimer putin like it well i would maybe the find it more as a cautious optimism that costs. russia recognizes nato as the greatest threat to

its security and i guess an e.u. army would be supported to the extent that it would to dilute the central of nato. instrument for maintaining a unit polar order so i think it. possible even army something that would transition the world more towards. a multiple multiple or system which is more balanced and also where security is depends more on compromise and harmonization of interest rather than the collective us to stop such asserting its dominance over over the rest of the world so so i think for that reason that's the reason why i would actually. welcome it i think the. he's also critical of the middle because. the european union also has similar serious some structure to keep in mind that russia's main security concern is that in the in europe we never really reached

a post cold war settlement that is we still maintain the structures from the cold war and the e.u. to a large extent followed the same path as nato so when we talk about european integration we're largely referring to a series some format in which countries in the shared neighborhood has to choose between us or russia so they you have a very much this serious an approach and i guess the concern will be if they militarize this approach but that being said it would be a step towards multi-polar construct which would definitely be welcome by moscow it would start to solve this problem but i would say that russia's main objective of us will ever ever says go but show me to construct a common european home this is far from a common security structure in europe but it's definitely the lesser of two evil if the alternative is simply having nato running the show who are no let me ask you about russia we talk a lot about russia we often look to see what vladimir putin's reaction to things are a bit can you put in some sort of perspective. the actual size. of russia and their

contribution to the world and it seems that their often the best phrase i know punching above their weight class like their influence out size is what their actual footprint is. yes of course in. the wealth of russia of the year the russian national product of russia is the same as italy so it's a very strong but. of course russia is a nuclear country russia has got a strong army russia has got a very active and successful we have to organize policy in the middle east in russia just as won a war in in the city are and is respected for that by all countries of the middle east and of course russia is considered especially by the eastern countries of european union as

a threat after its military intervention in dunbar's in summer two thousand and fourteen of but russia is not considered as a threat in in more western countries of europe like italy spain france belgium even the germans don't really think that. russia is a threat to them what kind of influence russia has got i have think that it has been like exaggerated people have said that you know russia had an influence on bragg's it i don't think it is true i think this is all english idea of gregg's it british idea briggs it people have said that russia had an influence on the eat alien elections i don't believe i don't believe so and even people said that you know. russia had an influence on french politics

yes it's true that magna pen was received in the kremlin by vladimir putin but it didn't help maggie in the pen because she cannot beat him in real macaw how can the president elections so i i think that russia. of course is is important for the europeans but i don't think that the they said they are a blatant influence on you dip in politics there is a direct influence of russia in middle east east and political years ago and i want to bring you and i am for the final thought here. a political scholar from duke said that donald trump is not necessarily isolated in his embrace of nationalism he said but his allies are mostly second tier players like poland hungary italy and not the big guys like germany and france is there

a realignment happening as you see it a on our way to a realignment. well it certainly seems that way well it does depend if this new populist rise continues but i guess overall what has happened after the cold war was. the east west divide in terms of communism versus capitalism fell apart and i guess in the west we kind of revived the logical divide it by saying by creating a new divided europe based on liberal democracies versus also a tear in states now what has happened in the last few years has been a crisis in liberalism and for the likes of donald trump they essentially are reconfiguring or reconceptualizing the main challenge in the world so it's no longer in a liberal democracy sources authoritarian states rather they see the world through the lens of enough lists protecting the nation state versus.

globalist and cosmopolitans who are seeking to undermine the nation state so i would argue that it's a period of excessive liberalism which is now having. a kickback from more classical conservative isn't being pushed in so i think this is quite significant for countries not just poland and hungary which identifies europe very different than the germans in terms of traditional european values and culture as opposed to the germans who look more of a civic identity but it's also quite important for russia because for the rest of this populist if if the divide is no longer between liberal democracies and us or terrorist states but rather between nationalists and fulton's then russia suddenly becomes goes from being an adversary to an ally because it rises us this international conservative power one that tries to protect the christianity traditional european values the family unit and essentially it rejects a lot of this post modernist postmodernism and globalism which comes out of the

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hello from doha everyone i'm come on santa maria and this is the news hour from al-jazeera and as ready abbas is one of the targets hit by rocket fire from the gaza strip just hours earlier israeli special forces killed at least seven palestinians in a late night operation. on the streets of the afghan capital after a suicide bomb attack at some minority groups demanding better security. donald trump says the nuclear threat from north korea is over new satellite images those suggest otherwise. and this will rivet play to have the advantage after the first leg of the call. final two way goals against the bucket genius. the home of the not finished and. so we're less than twenty four hours since

a secret israeli military operation in gaza killed seven palestinians and one is ready soldier and now there has been a barrel of rockets into israel from gaza israeli officials now saying at least two hundred rockets have been fired many intercepted by the missile defense system one of the rockets did hit a bus and another hit a house in southern israel israeli military says it's not carrying out an strikes throughout the gaza strip and at least three palestinians have been kills the latest with harry force that he's in our bureau in west jerusalem bring us up to date. well yes as you say this has been a very large scale round of rockets being launched from gaza towards israeli territory the closest we can get to it is what happened on july the fourteenth early this year when there were some two hundred rockets that were launched but that was over a longer period of time and that is what the israeli military is saying has happened in the space of just a couple of hours from this afternoon into this evening and as you say there is

a bus that was targeted the driver of that bus injured we're also hearing that a nineteen year old who was standing close to it is in a critical condition after the the weapon which is reported was an anti-tank weapon struck that bus it's reported that that bus contained a large group of young men we asked the israeli military whether that was whether they were military personnel or civilians they have issued no comment on that so far aside from that there are several buildings in several israeli towns that have been struck directly by rocket fire the israeli news television is broadcasting images of holes in buildings and burning areas as well in response to all of this thirteen israeli injuries reported in total in response to all of this there have been a substantial round of israeli air strikes tank artillery fire helicopter gunships

being used to strike what israel says are hamas and islamic jihad targets across gaza so far three deaths reported inside gaza two of them from the population popular liberation front for palestine the p.f. of the proper front for liberation of palestine and also one from islamic jihad so that's the current situation as things stand but as you say it remains ongoing ok harris so let's put it in context then the context of what happened about twenty four hours ago and the fact that initially after that botched israeli raid into gaza that the response from gaza seemed to be limited. it was relatively muted i mean we saw more than ten rockets launched from gaza into israeli territory in the immediate aftermath of that and just to be clear what happened this was

a covert operation which israel says was not an attempted assassination or an adoption of a high level hamas fifth military figure however the killing of a regional commander resulted from it the hamas side said that they were traveling these undercover israeli special forces in a civilian vehicle they were challenged a gunfight broke out during which this commander thirty seven year old commander noor baraka was killed the gunfight in ensued seven palestinians in total were killed six injured one israeli officer killed one wounded there was as support strikes involved as they were brought back out into israeli territory now the idea of an attack assassination attempt taking place at this very delicate time jury because he ations for a long term truce between israel and hamas that seemed to be totally counter-intuitive in the realms of what had been happening in recent days we've been seeing improvements in the eye tricity supply we've seen qatari money coming

in to at least partially fund civil servants employed by hamas inside gaza so the israelis saying that it was not intended in that way but that's how it eventually ated this botched operation the fact that hamas signed on to that explanation accepted it and said that it had on mass this operation claimed some kind of victory in terms of killing one of those involved in that operation that seemed to suggest that both sides wanted to lower the temperature however since then we've seen a meeting by all the palestinian armed factions inside gaza and after that came this response from the factions they say that it's united response that we've seen i've just seen a. tweet from the head of an ra of the un refugee agency inside gaza saying that it's impossible to rationally understand both the military operation last night and to understand what the current retaliation is supposed to achieve he calls it

madness and says that he's is hoping that that both sides will back down certainly we've seen in recent months when things have got to the brink of a really major military outbreak both sides have just about managed to calibrate their response and stop it spilling over into another gaza war this is probably the closest that we've come to that situation in all of these months and the images on israeli t.v.'s of burning areas in israeli towns will certainly up the pressure on benjamin netanyahu who's already been hearing from his defense minister for harsher action against hamas to continue this operation and the thing is palestinians in gaza things have actually been and it's all relative i guess given what they've been through but things have been improving has been fuel has been more hours of electricity they won't want to let go of those games.

no absolutely and it's something that i was pretty remarkable during my last very recent trip into gaza a few days ago i was there for over a week and when i arrived that was just when the critical mass of this qatari fuel had come in to fully rehabilitate or at least to the decent levels the power station which going from a pattern of four hours electricity then sixteen hours off it was meant to be eight hours on eight hours off it was actually in many instances twelve fourteen fifteen hours continuously at a time of electricity and that is a when you're talking about the desperate humanitarian situation and it prevailed for so long and that is a an almost miraculous thing that people were celebrating then came just last week the qatari money coming in with the word from qatar to fund the first of what is supposed to be several months of at least partial payment for gaza employees who

have been had their salaries restricted thanks to palestinian authority sanctions emanating from the occupied west bank and from ramallah again another major step forward just in terms of daily life in terms of having more money flowing around what is a very nearly collapsing economy so there is a huge amount to loose on the palestinian side inside gaza from a major war and that is what we've been hearing from hamas figures that the lead the gaza leader of hamas yassin gave an interview just a few weeks ago saying that they didn't want to an escalation indeed we're hearing that islamic jihad has also said that it doesn't want to see a further escalation even now however we've already seen thirteen israeli injuries we've seen a number of israeli buildings civilian areas being struck by these by these projectiles being fired out from inside gaza and we're seeing a pretty hefty israel. the response teams and once this thing starts to gain

momentum it could be very difficult to slow it harry thank you for all of that information herefore sits in west jerusalem on the line now from gaza or is sami abu salim who is a journalist by said thank you for your time sami tell me what things are like now i'm looking at a live picture it looks quiet though i'm actually just some rockets go up now tell us what's happening maybe it was quiet for a couple minutes but just five minutes ago the israeli jet fighters a flat in the house two story house in the first in the last this is in the last raid a house for the family has been destroyed but it has not been reported with any concern it is so far. nineteen injured then they go across the gaza strip. it is the last update that the palestinian factions declared that.

targeting a bus that they have targeting a bus according to them the bus was carrying carrying soldiers according to the east of value north of gaza strip at four thirty this afternoon and this in there that targeting the bus with corny iraq it has come as a retaliation of the crime in the night and that meantime that. is damaging had spock's beard clear that if i insist on if which means that there is. a margin over the city if the aggravation continues that means you had with the expand or the palace you know factions are going to expand the old fire according to the jihad. sorry. sorry to interrupt you are rockets still being fired on from gas so we've heard

reports of maybe two hundred of them going out tonight again please so i'm just wondering do you know if there are still rockets being fired from gaza things you know at this moment at this moment there is no oracle at this moment or maybe ten minutes ago or more than ten minutes i can say or i claim that. firing being fired from north of gaza so far and then there is no new was so far that rockets being shot from gaza but maybe after the start of this joining the house in the last five minutes or six minutes ago maybe where the palestinian factions would retaliate the same thing anyway the so i think that also there is some attempts of assassination it is not it is maybe just expectation because some some people received on this mobilized goading them.