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we don't have. to confirm. you're watching the news our life from a headquarters in doha. coming up in the next sixty minutes a key cabinet minister resigned prepares to defend her deal in the house of commons . row hinge refugees protest their return to me and maher will tell you why they are afraid to go home. political chaos in sri lanka as the constitutional crisis
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brings politicians to blows i'm joined again with the sports spain crunch game in the wait. a minute but it. will hear from him in the next hour. hello the british prime minister to resign may faces a crucial test of her already in a few minutes time she's due to appear in the house of commons to defend her breck's at agreement with the european union late wednesday night she won support for the deal from her cabinet but since then her brics it secretary has resigned she faces scathing criticism from all sides and the fate of both the brics a deal and her government hangs in the balance paul brennan is following the story is joining us from london so the morning started out with a significant development paul with the resignation of dominic.
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yeah i mean indeed the first resignation of the day was actually a junior northern ireland minister who decided that he couldn't abide by the terms of the backstop arrangement that that the negotiators have struck the deal with the european union but then the bombshell hits and that was the resignation of dominic rob he's the bracket secretary the man whose job it would be to a sell the deal to his cabinet colleagues and to the rest of the parliament that the lawmakers here in parliament and then go to brussels and actually finalize the deal with the e.u. chief negotiator michel barnier now after the cabinet met yesterday whedon's day three some a came out and said there was collective agreements that they would take collective responsibility it's lasted just over twelve hours and dominic grant has issued his resignation letter which says alone as far as i cannot support the
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proposed deal for two reasons first of all the proposed regulates three regime for northern ireland is a very real threat to the integrity of the u.k. and secondly i cannot support an indefinite backstop with the e.u. holding a veto over our ability to exit and breaking news literally in the last ten minutes is that it looks like another cabinet minister estimates vary the work and pensions secretary another story supporter has also tends of her resignation as well so the prime minister is in really serious trouble with less than half an hour to go before she's due to stand in front of parliament and actually try to explain and try to sell the deal that the negotiators have come up with two of her cabinet ministers of have decided they are not going to swallow it just look ahead to the parliament session for us paul and tell us what hurdles she's going to be facing there. she's basically going to get it in the neck from all sides for she thought that she got over
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a hurdle by getting the cabinets agreement it looks like that's simply not the case with two cabinet ministers quitting this morning the next hurdle of course would be to persuade parliament that it's a good deal or a workable deal and i think that's going to be a real uphill struggle she's getting it from all sides the scottish national party scotland voted in favor of remain over all they are saying that they're not going to support the deal when it comes to votes here in the house of commons the scottish conservative party is extremely worried about the fisheries elements of the deal the d u p the democratic unionist party which is the minority party in northern ireland sorry minority party from northern ireland upon which the prime minister relies because he's in charge of a minority government they're saying that they're not happy with the backstop arrangement and labor is saying that it is extremely unlikely that the six tests that it's had set for agreement on the deal they're not going to be met so it's not it's unlikely she's going to get labor's backing as well it looks very much that
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even if this deal goes to brussels on the verge of the twenty fifth the tunnel test was talking about and is signed off in its substandard form by e.u. heads of state there and it comes back to parliament here afterwards it is going to be voted down as things stand all right paul brennan with the update from london thank you. now thousands of revenge or muslim refugees in bangladesh are protesting against a repatriation deal they say would force them to return to me and mar the first group of around two thousand people were expected to leave the camps in quotes as bizarre but the u.n. and human rights groups say the refugees safety must be verified before they're sent back bangladesh says only those who volunteer will return but many say they're on the transfer a list despite not wanting to go mohamed john john reports. this is the week when for many trauma became terror will hinge on refugees who to scape so
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much violence were shocked to learn they might be repeated to me and more recently learned a little i would do it and yeah i've been crying because of how sad i am that we might be sent back our relatives were killed in myanmar we were all persecuted there so much we came here to bangladesh to find peace this is a peaceful country but we're not at peace because we've been told we're on a list. that list is the reason there's so much fear in this place it includes the names of thousands of pro him to refugees who've been chosen as candidates to potentially be sent back to iraq and state as part of a deal between the governments of bangladesh and me and more. many are a bedroom tells us her camp leader informed her that she and her three children are on the list but she says they'd rather die than return and i would think twice and before we go back to me and if it looks like they will try to move us to my
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children and i'll buy poison from the market here and didn't think it the government of bangladesh insists repeat relations will be on a voluntary basis only but menorah is not convinced the atmosphere here is filled with an increasing sense of dread and several of these huts that used to house refugees now sit empty that's because people are so terrified that in the past few days at least five families have fled this camp the united nations refugee agency which does not believe current conditions in iraq kind state are conducive to a safe and dignified return of refugees from bangladesh says there are approximately four hundred eighty five families on the repatriation list for us it's very important that we first do these assessment of voluntariness and this is really a basic condition for us and the record she is not only have to decide they have to decide based on on knowledge they need to know what's going on the enemy on law
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they fled from the little more than a year ago before they returned they have to know what's what's going on there but many refugees say they're all too aware of the horrors that await them i don't know i love that when the world i don't know we don't want to go back to myanmar because the camps they would put us in there are worse than the camps we are in here if we go there we won't be able to pray in our children won't be able to go to school for now members of one of the world's most persecuted minorities continue to worry they may be victimized all over again. joining us. today was quite decisive for that repatriation deal what's happened to those refugees who are supposed to go back. well that means it was supposed to be decisive and we've been told throughout the day that a decision is imminent and yet here we are eight hours later and no final
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announcement has been made i think this really goes to show a lot of behind the scenes chaos that is going on here in bangladesh we've spoken to many bangladeshi officials the past few days clearly they were taken aback by the amount of criticism that came their way when the government of bangladesh announced this bilateral repatriation deal with the government of myanmar condemnation came in very quickly from many humanitarian groups and many u.n. affiliated agencies all saying that they don't believe the conditions are right for any refugees to return where we are at the moment is that we were told two hours ago a final announcement would be made all indications were that the bangladeshi government was going to say that this repatriation deal had been delayed indefinitely we know there's a lot of behind the scenes workings going on and we know that the government bungle just been consulting with the u.n. refugee agency the u.n.
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refugee agency the u.n.h.c.r. has been assessing how how the people who are on this list whether or not they actually want to return we know that practically everybody that they've spoken with does not want to return to that really complicates things for bangladesh also we must add said a couple of hours ago we witnessed a pretty extraordinary demonstration against this issue over patriae sion in another refugee camp south of us thousands of or a hindrance out saying that they do not want to return that they would only consider returning if they were to be guaranteed full citizenship rights and freedom of movement and also guarantees some kind of mechanism by which they could return safely that has not happened yet so this is all very complex it's all very nuanced and right now we're here almost at sunset we still don't have a final answer from the government. bangladesh and everybody is concerned about what exactly is going to happen next well what more do they tell you about their biggest concerns off any possible return because we know that human rights
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organizations say that they're safe and dignified return cannot be guaranteed as of now look i'll tell you first what we're hearing from refugees i mean i spoke with a woman earlier she was carrying her child with her her son was born after her husband was killed in iraq kind state last year before she fled she spoke to us with tears streaming out of her eyes about the atrocities that had been committed against her family about how she had been beaten by officials in myanmar before she fled so many of the stories we heard today echo the tales of the atrocities committed against the ruins of that we've heard over the course of several reporting trips here this past year as far as officials in bangladesh privately they will tell you that they are worried that the safety of the range of refugees has not been guaranteed inside me and more mentioned before many u.n.
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affiliated groups in the past few days have said that they fear that if there were hints that return to me and more now that it would be premature that they don't even know where they would be how concerned they would be in. villages their homes in rakhine state they were raised last year the entire village is burnt to the ground aside from that we must also remember it was just about two months ago when a u.n. fact finding mission recommended the charges of genocide be brought against officials in myanmar's military for the atrocities carried out against the road in india and it was just a few weeks ago that one of the members of that fact finding mission said that in fact they believe that a genocide against the reasons it is still ongoing inside of myanmar in iraq i think so you put all of these complications together you see that this is a very difficult situation for bangladesh at a time when there are also grappling with an election season in which the government has promised the citizens here that there would be a repatriation deal so that so that we're going to refugees would actually be returning to me and more and if they can't deliver on that promise as well and they
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worry about how that will affect them here domestically for that political audience with elections the specter of elections looming all right. thank you. the united nations special rapporteur on the situation of human rights in me and more and she says transfer is without consent violate international law. it is illegal absolutely illegal and so i'd like to plead to the bullet as she government again to really keep up to their promise of saying that the terms will be. under an involuntary conditions that all the returns will have to be voluntary i'm not sure that we have the same concept of the bird or the definition of ontarians innes how did the list of names come about were those the people on that list have have they been informed that they are on the list and have you
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received consent informed consent by those people on that list i have not been able to get a clear answer so far and what i hear it but many of the people or if not most of the people on the list of two hundred plus are not aware that they are on the list and they don't want to go back because they understand that this is relation is not conducive it is safe and that it returns the agreement on a patch relation or reform and will be they have to go back to the place of origin but if you've seen what happened in our kind is that all of that causes were burnt down and razed to the ground bulldozed they were new they're new but suctions built and so it i'm not sure that. the refugees will be going back to their place of origin. the so the and him out us he led coalition fighting in yemen has stopped
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its offensive on her days off the rebel held port city has been besieged for months because infighting comes as the united states and others push for a ceasefire before more u.n. led talks and three and a half year war the u.n. is warning of a humanitarian catastrophe of the main gateway for the majority of food and aid sustained heavy damage bahama doe covering the story joining us from djibouti what are you hearing about the situation and the data. well daryn we're hearing kolache is taking place in the suburbs of to haiti. of a few kilometers away from the port it was said to be. offensive on the positions of the pro-government alliance who had been receiving reinforcements in the overnight now what we're hearing is that this of course is a sick leave that is student but it's
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a forty eight hour lull in the fighting in. the soda led coalition have found that they have asked the pro-government fighters to stop and so have they to give peace talks our chance there is a lot of pressure being exerted on both so that india and the united arab emirates to bring the parties to focus on already so that it be a hoss second a measure which is. good will gesture. to encourage the whole two fighters to come to the negotiating table now. some sort of consensus among the international community that is need for peace talks to ensure that the vital services of the portal but they are not prompted by the fighting and as long as we continue to have these talks we will see such clashes happening because both sides will want to come to the negotiating table on a position of strength and the concern as always mohamed on behalf of the human
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rights organization is that. in fact the humanitarian situation is quite dire in yemen with the u.n. saying that on average every ten minutes a child dies. all the fault of the human and. the massive humanitarian drive. seven of the country's imports including u.n. aid through the port of w b just a few days ago. raised up the number of people to be fed from about eight million to four million saying the country is on the brink of a famine and if pulled. by the fighting. in the past two weeks. the u.n. secretary general says it is going to be catastrophic for the anti-human all right
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thank you once more head on the al-jazeera news hour including after years of exile some sudanese refugees prepare to return home to darfur. firefighters in california continue their battle to contain the worst wildfires in the state's history. and a final push for spain and the u. wafer nations me joe will have the details a little later in sport. but first the speaker of parliament says the country doesn't have a legitimate prime minister or government and he's backing appointed prime minister mahinda rajapaksa with supporters of criticise or right now we're promising them parliament passed a no confidence motion on wednesday to remove former president rajapaksa as well as his cabinet bernard smith has more from colombo. obama's going to sit again
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tomorrow the speaker has met with the leaders of various parties and they were read to sit again tomorrow quite well they'll decide we don't know what we have today and the rajapaksa says is prime minister giving a speech empowerment essentially trying to now appeal over the heads of problem and try and have an early election for them they're doing this because rajapaksa people have essentially failed in his attempt to become prime minister by presidential decree they tried to stop parliament voting. that refused to accept parliament's vote. no confidence vote they said it was procedurally accurate but whatever the reasons are there now that new tactic is to go that has an appeal to the people at large in trying to get an early election poll on the streets of sri lanka the time being remain calm people been watching this from the homes but there is a great clamor on the streets for action is being contained the now in politics.
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hundreds of central american migrants traveling in a caravan have reached the u.s. border the asylum seekers gathered at the wall near the mexican city of tijuana they were closely watched by border guards who were supported by u.s. marines earlier u.s. defense secretary jim mattis met some of the six thousand troops president donald trump sent to the border before the midterm elections heidi kohei reports. it came off as carefully choreographed fellow soldiers are you doing. one after the other soldiers walking the secretary of defense through this you will break away from the report to take you to saudi arabia where the saudi arabian attorney general is speaking in riyadh let's listen actually on what that has to do with operatives and about a total of five. but he. was dismembered and transported woodside the concert of building. five people took that remains of the custody
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to cut the pieces. the person who delivered the buddy to the doctor was a single person. actually thirteen. it was established that a sketch of the contract that was. drafted based on the descriptions given by the person who did that it made. the. person who impersonated the victim got rid of the clothes in the dust bin and this is here at the canvas it was tampered with in the consulate buildings and done by and defeated us. sixteen and. the person who. provided those cystic support five persons also it was also established that that command
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that the task. with the negotiators and. why did the false. to the chief intelligence the afaik that the victim left the consulate building live as the negotiations with him has failed now open the floor to questions. in a shift. so nobody called and said i want from the side some other people cannot have a lot of television an issue. could limited to. one in every. case and from now and then what i can't tell him that counts given other. what he
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called. a changing of the bill if you are the reason i never said i did you mean first of all we should take into consideration the crime scene and that it was outside. and more that accounts given are based on the state is a billion by those detained and at the beginning they were afraid from providing any statement as a result. was submitted by a misleading report was submitted. was submitted to the chief. spy after that the interrogation took deal of course and that's why the accounts are coming out differently. by leak out of news. media and. what really is the moat that the things are that.
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are conflicting official i can see you don't know a lot of however it seems to be a great deal of confusion why the team. of the first place. is it related to his. positions or his article or any other matter or violation committed to him by him which is not known to us another question. to you may agree that the negotiation team is not convincing you compared to the media reports and the new pieces of news. and why and the team i you know comprised of fifteen the persons and why what were they carrying with them that certain to your statement did not give details about.
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it is established on the interrogations an interesting case is that the main reason was to convince the victim to return home to the kingdom. three. teams three branch team logistics intelligence and negotiations and on the morning of the fags and then he goes shooting members. found out that it was not possible to convince him and that's why there is all to divorce and he was killed. so the logical medical committee to. a.b.c. television it is. now everywhere that you are victims but the so was dismembered so . my question is how did you establish this particular fact especially that there are other leaks through the turkish media that. the assassination.
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carried their heads back to the kingdom my question is how did you establish this fact and what about the media reports. through interrogations it is established that it but the after being dismembered was handed out to contractor and the stumble as to the media reports that they were carrying certain devices and tools it was not established through then turkish ns. and what the newspaper. took. the constructor. that the body was given to him by an individuals on the one member of the team. with. the turkish authorities. parade
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and where they. identified this contractor another important factor which is to consider to be grave. did you communicate with. again through the interview since it was. just that list what i would that. he was handed over to a contractor drawing a sketch that was established based on the description given by this individual who handed over the body and is underway. it is reported in the media. to whom.
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the big. established a and i through their investigations that are still underway that the role of the former adviser was limited to coordination by the. department chief spy. and the leader of the negotiating team. who was also working with him he requested to meet with the team and the negotiating team in order to brief them on some relevant information based on the fact that he was on the media domain and he had believed that the victim. was received by human organization some countries host thaw and to the united. kingdom saudi arabia and it was very
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encouraged to have to have him returned home. this former advisor is banned from traveling and he is. under interrogation. why this operation and the need carried out by a fifteen about fashion team does it reveal that you had in mind had to have him killed. through the end investigation into allegations the main cause was to have tried to convince him to return to the kingdom as they said that the team was to play. certain rules negotiating some intelligence had that command in addition to the legislator. you spoke about. that you had. to regain that personal effort. did
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you also request certain individuals of the public prosecution submitted requests one. three different dates. and these three year questions. that testimonies given by the witnesses before the. public prosecution of turkey also the telephone belonging to the victim and his personal effort in addition to a copy of their electronic messages on. the surveillance cameras around the building and the audio recordings said to have been leaked through the media.
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so the. game in turn to have. to provide you with that. all right so apologies for that but so what we were listening to is the. attorney general. and he was giving an update on how they see it on the murder and what he had to say during that press conference where he was also asked questions by reporters he said that saudi arabia is seeking the death penalty for five people who have now been accused of murder he also said that those five people the drugs and dismembered. and he said that that team killed after talks with him failed once again his body
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was dismembered and then it was handed over to a cooperator in turkey in the meantime eleven people have been arrested with this murder and he also says that he has asked the turkish government to provide saudi arabia with evidence clues as well as sound recordings of the killing of and also importantly says that a former deputy chief of intelligence played a role in the murder so that's just the gist of what he had to say in that press conference in riyadh let's bring in andrew symonds he's listening in and he is joining us from istanbul an interesting leandra he was asked by one of the reporters there why the saudis story of the events had changed so many times and this i would have said that the suspects themselves had been giving misleading testimonies. yes well it is i suppose a poor as a bull explanation but then only in the sense that it's an excuse for
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a narrative that is changed quite dramatically as time has gone on depending on how much pressure is being put on saudi arabia but this is a major development now this announcement that the prosecution is going to be calling for the death sentence against five people no names there no names at all but the red thread who is the leader of the group a group of fifteen people identified here in the turkish inquiry but in saudi there are eighteen suspects but out of those eighteen suspects eleven people only have been charged and out of that eleven just to recount five going to be charged with murder and a call from the prosecution for the death sentence and their standby or a moment speakers will just go back to riyadh and listen in once again to the saudi
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attorney general. to be chief spied. and his command of his old daughter was today betty eight only to have this victim returning back home that by negotiation or by force and a person will order the killing was the head of the negotiating team due to the. fact. that it is to him and the consulate ending they had also submitted a misleading to be pulled out on the. don imus i mean. you know and yet and after ten days royal decree was handed down to refer the matter to the public prosecution shouldn't you steven king when we go through two years. i suppose it's . just a bug to sleep under have you. the whereabouts of the mains of the body but that. being handed over to the contractor by this name i went to.
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the local going to graduate and do you have any information that this is the director. investigations are still underway in this respect. and we will hand over. authority is what we have in hand thank you so that you know about us that we are all right so once again no that was solid mars and he is the saudi arabian attorney general and he was giving a press conference in riyadh on what they know of the. murder so back to anderson and he's joining us from istanbul on the last thing we heard there andrew was that he was being asked about the the rain and the remains in the whereabouts of. course of course. yes what we're hearing from saudi arabia in this flurry of activity and announcements is the public or prosecutor is saying that the
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five suspects took the body of course showed g.'s corpse outside of the consulate off to dismembering it now that would fit possibly with the video from the c.c.t.v. on this road behind me when a vehicle was taking what was seen as five suitcases from the consulate to the consul general zod residence and that fits with the turkish evidence of what happened now this would appear. what's starting here is some sort of connection between the turkish version of events and the sound recording and the saudi investigation so what we're hearing then is those five. suspects of the ones one would assume who the the prosecutor in riyadh is calling for the death sentence to be served upon them because they were engaged in the dismemberment of the body and taking the body to the consul general's residence of
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course that residence was wasn't searched by turkish investigate since for more than two weeks afterwards and it was on the the early hours of the seventeenth of october that the investigates is went through the entire residence but once allowed to go into the garden area they according to one source who spoke to al-jazeera a very recently found acid traces the traces of hydrofluoric acid and also of the traces of a chemical certainly also a domestic chemical on the premises an assertion was made by the source of that the body was dissolved however there are other concerns about whether or not there is evidence of the body having been. effectively destroyed all together so a complete complete blank on that but what this assertion from the saudis is doing
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is would seem to be a demonstration but riyadh would see of action in relation to demands from the united states in particular or that they come out with a narrative that's plausible and that also they all seem to be taking action now does it coincide with the u.s. president's promise that he will be forming a definite strong opinion this week because this week is not far off its end all be good to see a concerted action here where the united states may then be following announcement on from this saudi action turkey concern is concerned that there is some form of corporation between the saudi arabian authorities and the united states white house in trying to actually take some of the heat off this situation because turkey wants to see its own justice its own investigation put forward and he's also knowall the
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foreign minister of turkey is also now suggesting that he wants an international investigation one that is seen by all as being comprehensive thorough not just dealing with who is responsible for the murder of come out but who ordered the murder not in the view of the fish president on indeed others within the government unanimously is at the highest level not king solomon but the fingers being pointed in the direction of the crown prince mohammed bin solomon that is not something that's mentioned by name not his names not mentioned directly but there is a definite finger pointing in his direction and so. what we're seeing is what the scientists would describe as very firm action being taken i would think would be the description in the direction of their investigation of their plans to see
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justice done ok andrew symonds with the update from istanbul thank you let's speak to bill last he's a journalist and middle east analyst he's joining us from london via skype so from what you heard the attorney general had to say. including that saudi arabia is now seeking the death penalty for five people who are accused of the. murder but the investigation is still going on is this enough for the international community and specifically for turkey who is continue to ask who ordered the murder. no i suspect it's not enough but there is enormous pressure right now on mom an installment just yesterday lindsey graham described as unreliable and unstable lindsey graham a senior republican democrat republican senator and the chair of the of the foreign relations committee bob corker has called for an
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immediate end to the arms deals that america has in the yemen who are and has also said that as far as he's concerned mountains on is the person responsible so the response i think today reflects that pressure coming from the american senate and congress however donald trump i think is still anxious to try and keep mom and bin solomon in play and therefore the saudis had to i think respond and offer some indication that they're prepared to move on up on this situation is that enough president or the want no i don't believe that is so what do you think that will do next because we've heard his calls growing louder and louder and most recently for an international investigation. yes i think you keep up the demand for an international investigation. it's clear that no one has
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any faith in the saudis invest it effectively mob in soft money investigating him sell nor in the saudi judicial system if it's a pressure point and or one can continue to push on and i think he will do that the other point too is that where is the body the turks released information suggesting that jamal has or jesus' body was destroyed now and in speaking about that that's a religious issue as well so it's a kind of two pronged attack now one is on the on the demand for an international investigation independent investigation the other is on the religious right which again is very undermining for the for the saudis because they are the custodians of the julies mosque in islam so they are vulnerable on two fronts and marrs have was specifically that question on where the body is he said that the body was dismembered and then it was handed over to a cooperator in a turkey and he also
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a has not released the names nor the identities of these five people that saudi arabia is now is seeking the death penalty for but he did say that a former deputy chief and often tell a gents advisor did play a role in the murder what do you make of that. well i think that the fact that he's not released any names is quite telling i mean he's pursuing the death penalty for these people without naming them. allegations suggestions perhaps that more senior people might be brought into the frame is it possible that this. is effectively intelligence chief. will he be thrown under the bus but these are questions that remain to be answered i think the closer and closer it gets to some of the more likely the more senior people will be sacrificed in that effort to protect the ground prince and what he's also said is that the war and to bring costs off the backs of the saudis and actually had just wanted to bring me back to the kingdom
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that warrants came from the deputy head of intelligence and then the decision to kill was made by the head of the team that was trying to extract him so does that feel like the story is once again changing. yes it is changing and the saudis are attempting to track back now to this. claim that some of this was. an attempt to return to my leisure sheet to saudi arabia that we're going to ride because of rogue elements look this just doesn't stand up it was clearly prevented the saudis have already admitted it was premeditated so there are there's attending up their own alibis and their own explanations and increasingly they look more and more foolish and with the ultimate impact that it raises the stakes again on weldon's on one of the spokesman for the attorney general during that presser had said that saudi arabia has requested from turkey that they provide them with pieces
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of evidence in their possession including their original audio recordings and they were waiting for turkey's response we know that turkey has shared that information with other countries including the united states and canada and france do you think that they will be giving them to saudi arabia. well i think the tactic there is to hold back on that because the studies still don't know unless they're from their parents what the the turks have on those audiotapes and i think that this will again be used as a pressure point by the war on that and you know you look at how he's played this he's played it very very effectively he's kept this story in the international media but by the drip drip approach he's got the. money i think he would like to see moments on removed i don't think that that will happen although he's weakening almost by the day and it's possible that that now. could be pushed aside
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i'm still feeling that he will somehow survive albeit very very weak and you touched upon this in the beginning on the position of the americans what do you think the trumpet ministration is going to do now are they just put in a corner that they will have to take a more decisive response. well i think trump has already indicated that within a week he would have something very tough to say i think he's playing for time donald trump wants to keep been someone and play it for three reasons the first of all is the is the iran situation and he wants to see saudi arabia play a leading role in confronting iran secondly is the the so-called peace deal that george bush there and netanyahu and indeed moments on. this deal is very bad news and instead what went through that very much is attached to moments oman and
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the third is the whole issue of the choice of a. truck wants to see that managed and he thinks that more bizarre more to effectively controls the entire economy of saudi arabia including saudi aramco is the person to do that now at some point donald trump may well decide but that. is it is a liability and therefore he will let it go that point has not a right yet i think he wants to find a way to keep him in play but he's facing growing pressure from the house and from the senate to do something very strong to indicate america's very unhappy with markets on all right stand by you'll stay with us throughout this hour thanks for the time being because i'm just cross over to our correspondent andrew symonds who is joining us from istanbul in just for anyone joining us here at al-jazeera and to recap what we heard from the officials in saudi arabia.
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well good she just bring you straight up to date with with that with the latest and then move on to go ahead the highlights but what we're hearing from the spokesman for the saudi prosecution is that the warrant to bring back g. to the kingdom of saudi arabia now this really relates to the first story we heard from saudi arabia said that they wanted him back they wanted to bring him back so the good thing partly about to that story line then the spokesman said that the warrant was issued to bring. back to the saudi arabia came from the deputy head of intelligence and the decision to kill him was made by the head of the team that was trying to extract him we're going back to the early in the ration that that this was a botched operation that had nothing to do with the royal household at the very
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highest level it would seem and cascading down from that we have what will be seen by some as very firm action being taken by the prosecution charging eleven people eleven out all of eighteen people who were originally arrested by the saudi arabians and calling the prosecution calling for five of those people who have been charged to receive the death penalty those five none of them of being named and the saudi a prosecutor spokesman spokesperson has insisted that they are not naming anybody at this stage they will not name anyone and furthermore they are not following any speculative lines a poke that would have peer leaks from the turkish prosecution however it is they were all stressing the point that there was
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a murder that took place that took place. in the consulate and. was actually dismembered according to the spokes person and that he was then taken to the parts of his body with then taken to the away from the building now there is some consternation here about exactly what happened next because there is a reference in one line given by the prosecution spokesman of a turkish collaborates being involved we heard this this this narration a good few weeks back now in fact something like four weeks ago the collaborative collaborator was mentioned and then that story line changed to now it seems to be back on the cards that collaborates has been seen as it's being described as is going to be there's going to be a sketch of that collaborator drawn by the saudis according to the spokesman and
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then passed on to the turkish investigators that is an interesting development and one that will certainly draw some criticism and some bewilderment in. best of good investigative circles here and also that story line the narrative of the the orders coming from the deputy head of intelligence will undoubtedly lead to more suggestions that this is a whitewash attempt on the whole affair rather than a thorough investigation and let's just listen in to what the prosecutor as a spokesperson had to say during that presser. the person who ordered this crime was a wristed with another four operatives who totaled five the body after his death was dismembered and transported outside the consulate building those five people took the remains out the person who delivered the body to the contractor was
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a single person and there he is talking about the body but he also then did go on to say that the body was dismembered andrew if you're with us for the turks and your summons how do you think that they are going to take this information and because specifically they had said a couple of weeks ago that they are ending the search for the body. well yes this is a there's a great deal of concern amongst the turkish investigators about exactly what has happened they have a prosecution service level said two zero zero zero that there are traces of acid and other chemicals in one of the rooms of the consul general zz residence and that has led them to conclude that this was used to dissolve the body now there are other aspects of the criminal investigation which suggests that maybe because they haven't got evidence that the body has been dissolved then they can't
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really pursue that definitive statement anymore and so there is a suggestion possibly that the body could have been disposed of another way or the turkish president urged one himself did say that there was a possibility the body could be cut off and smuggled out of the country now that was in his briefing after he was he was in paris speaking to the u.s. president and the french president and the german chancellor about the whole affair having shared all with say this with the u.s. and all of its allies saudi arabia included so there is some consternation about that but the overall reaction from the turkish obviously we've yet to get it but i would say undoubtedly they will be very very concerned about this narration of events because it's very similar in fact almost identical to the
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second version the third version of events in which this suggestion was that this was a botched operation and it was nothing to do with the royal palace hierarchy at all these were really people acting on the village of misunderstanding in order effectively there was a warrant to bring back. to saudi arabia in line with other orders from the royal household it just so happened that the leader of the team decided he was going to kill house shoji and that's something that happened within minutes of him going into the consulates he had a bag over his head according to the the the all of the. recollections from the sound recording he was asking for the back to be taken off in fact panicking and just pasta phobic was one of the descriptions and of course he was then
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strangled he was struck will effectively he died within a matter of seven minutes and then a pussy just started to dismember his body all of that recording has been passed on to the saudi arabian investigators and they are obviously coming together now with a a version of events which you may think actually fits with that but the turks would disagree i would say i'm not prejudging what their reaction will be but i would certainly think this is what they had been fearing all along or was that there would be some sort of whitewash announced by the saudi arabia with its own justice system to basically put aside and to clear the name early on of mohammed bin salim on the crown prince from any fingerprints on the order now there have been references to
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a possible smoking gun with the audiotape having recorded a phone conversation between. treb the leader of the gang that the killing scene of which he called someone in riyadh and said it was the effect of well mission accomplished boss but the word boss was used in arabic and the boss. was that someone who told of the killing at a high level a slightly lower level all the very highest level that is inconclusive according to john bolton of the united states and other investigators the united states were the phone calls however and we don't have the transcripts of those phone calls we don't know whether they're on the tape but they will the phone calls to riyadh made by by more thread and that is a question bob we're not sure of the evidence and so we're now it's a stage where saudi arabia is announcing what it plans to do and of course now you
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have to look back on what the united states president said last week when he said that he would form a severe serious opinion about the whole case this coming week we're now towards the end of that week one may expect some response off to this reaction from the saudis from the united states definitely this is what the turks had feared they fear this is part of a whitewash operation and if the united states is prepared to take it on board. as a as a good. progressive move on the part of the saudis then the turks would definitely beg to differ i would say without doubt our right to anderson and said thank you for that update from istanbul let's bring in below once again he's a journalist and middle east analyst he's joining us live from london via skype and just to pick up on what andrew was saying from istanbul the turks might see this as
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a sort of whitewash. do you agree with that we still have yet to hear any response by turkish officials. yes i think that the turks will take that time to respond they've shown a great calculated approach to this whole. awful tragedy. as regards the whitewash i think yes the attempt is to is to whitewash will it be successful no i don't believe it will i think already as well as the saudis scramble to come up with some sort of a and they're up to that this fact that they've already repudiated indicates that it's it's not going to fly it's and certainly internationally it's not going to fly the the reputation of the harbin saddam on has taken an enormous hit or you think about this incident he had been. in very effectively conveyed this image up of
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a bright young man moderate reformer who is going to take saudi arabian at twenty two centuries that image just completely crushed iran does around his speech really and turkey i think it will be will be looking at america and see if america will accept what mountains our minds people are trying to cobble together but remember that when saudi arabia and specifically mohamed bin sandman in for saying what some would say are the u.s. policies in the region countering iran for one pushing forward the middle east so-called middle east peace plan that peace process how prepared is trump to really take this on. well i think that there's a lot of pressure on trump he's had actually a very bad midterm mission people are saying that the blue wave had to ride will in fact the democrats have won control of congress they have scored major victories
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in a number of states and they have a rooted trumps base in the suburbs he's vulnerable and there are people on both sides who are pushing for example who are the u.s. to end its support for the yemen war and they're very hard words being spoken or for lindsey graham to call the crown prince unreliable unstable this is unprecedented never ever as an american politician and a senior politician and that spoken so publicly and in such a harsh way about a member of the saudi willing family so can donald trump ride this out i'm not sure that he can given his vulnerability and of course he's also you know feeling he's sulking the man is sulking sitting in the white house and sulking he didn't he didn't turn up and it.

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