oh yeah yeah. how. you. read them or were you given them. believing that this was a lie lie lie about money. there how how do you know you're mature and i had to meet you i don't want an idea that's how do you actually got it and how do you. what that is that we. are doing that how do we. want to discuss how stories with the counselors. she's eighteen and pregnant with her first charge. she's had to for i want to cut. wildly like. the wyly touched.

him so that i will show. them a. question in my. own. house. i've been up. and. half and you know what. i'm going to move to me and we're going to. go to hell. it would have been a total mind there might be a lot of us going to. suffer so yeah i think you know when i. use.

i'm not acting like him. to some local thing to see me or have not. had a lot of time or other hand i have loved but honestly the loop will have been a day really complain talk about it on heart like a hell of a lot of the man who not really clearly could talk a little hasn't asked me out. he had big big. solo much it might be behind some. of the day. but most of all i think is feeling like. why do you think somaliland have the highest percentage when it comes to f e m globally it takes time to leave the cult her grandmother does and mother says they still hold on with the suturing and if jim is special the grandmother sat very

very close or they are there they were looking a fit there was a lady who had three girls she came to me at the hospital i told her go back to the whore and see i did the operation she is very killer for describing mother when the guests are going to authorities she goes after the she listen as the most of their . oh because when that girl is said concise in their smallness with with how do you want to because it is like a drug is good to the who she cried she said all my daughter the good saddle that you need to like the boys what you did you did nothing do you think that eventually people will abandon this eventually but to do is take.

as i watch these young people at a wedding reception i wonder how many of the men would be willing to marry an uncut woman in the future. for st a local journalist posted an m t f g m message on social media i was curious to know why i did the facebook update of where you said some men believe after jam deduces a woman's sexual desire they say this increases her appeal what made you write this i want to talk because it's problem for the old goddess. to suggest a down plate of the goddess a human unarm that left when you would get my do you want to my family would cut

their own cut and cut ok are you married know you want to be learned someone was cut or non-corrupt the cup. who you really. meant to target someone. doesn't he and his brother his. car. in liverpool you're all about the one austrian about them. nothing it's all the way in which to. i am a woman. i come from a culture that also practices that i am not cop. i know other woman based on what other women have told me that is there is no there is no good in it if they tell you this is hurting us this is literally killing off and we need to stop we do then listen. but it doesn't commit.

the doesn't wish that. i'm surprised that a young man should feel so strongly about holding on to this tradition when so harmful if f.g.s. mr brand changing men's attitudes will be essential. to have not done university hospital collects detailed information on trends in female cutting. medicare only since two thousand and two all antenatal patients are asked what kind of cuts have had and if they intend to cut their daughters. i think they were kind enough to. say this is rare to see a woman who is. in two thousand and two hundred ninety seven percent of female

patient had undergone the family cut. most intended the thing for the daughters. but that has changed there's a huge improvement in the type. and the return to the other having entire one to which they calls. but if it were a scouting cut so. one is the one that this is a little bit the tip but tied to a day care how fast can a truce we know all cuts doesn't have any benefits. i just. talked to my current doctor shukri introduces me to a friend who's at the hospital on a post natal liver she gave birth order days ago oh so there was a very interesting burst of that sort of stuff. is a midwife and know the harmful effects of for only cutting from passing experience

. was something else all along but is at that time. so if you've paid when you want to you're in it i can't. i'm clearly quite cut out in my for the to physically in your current while you can you talk. the festival all the way i feel that sixteen year is the minister we should secondly. i feed it out of the bin bag they. don't get to see this problem this is full day with the some cycle communication i feel and i feel in that token the question will you marry. to ask them for their cut and never fuck that to me forcing fed if it is kids. did you feel any resentment towards your mother and your grandmother yeah but grandmother she should.

get. as i'm leaving somalia i feel privileged to have met a woman who share the stories with me. but i'm overcome with emotion as i realize factually every woman here has been caught. and what it actually means. i've always known about the numbers and the facts of the figures but when you come face to face to woman who've gone through it it seems like the woman who have to endorse this and the children who have to endure this you go through cycles of pain. for what. has happened to so many women and girls like my mom. i'm so happy that she. i don't know why should the didn't come off but i'm so

grateful. because my life would have been sol much different because to feel good. over don't go through that pit. to go through without and then not to be able to do something that it's a it's a god given thing to peek. you can't pee. and then your comments today show and then when you have to have sex you don't enjoy it and it's like painful. and then you have to give bursts and then it just continues. i'm so grateful that. i didn't go through without and when i meet. this woman who had to go through it.

i've come to kenya to find out more about a totally different culture. and over forty tribes here with diverse cultures and traditions. the majority don't practice a cuts at all. but to several including the must die cutting has been a centuries old tradition until recently. today meeting twenty eight year old nice and getting. myself managed to totally write the kate f.e.m. and have village of my young not. traditionally for the messiah cutting is a rite of passage marking the transition from girlhood to womanhood usually between

the ages of mine and fourteen. the ritual involves some most of you talk of cutting . his release because of circumcision i used to see gas even if they're trying to be strong but you can see that deafening a lot of us are bleeding. nice with the only gun in her village who refused to be cut. all of my classmates who are from this community all of them. and they didn't they were not able to get they have to find a husband for you. so right now almost all of them have three four five children and a. jumble. what's your name my name is all what a beautiful name have they been a second thought. no they have been fact i'm saved how do you feel about not being

caught. so what would you like to do when you grow up. thank you and. as a result of nice's determination to end f.e.m. no young girl has been cut here since two thousand and twelve. the messiah and a patriarchal society. and i first have to persuade the young warriors called moran's to help and the practice. recruiting douglas the leader of them runs was the beginning. what did you do nice to make them change their opinion about their family that was their first doesn't work cept my walk the resistance was there from all over but then again i had them have a treat because when i go to them i'll go with someone like that last so i'll make sure that he talks before i talk so what did you do to persuade them around in the

community. it was very hard for us to conform to the boys because the say that they can not. because even god is not so clumsy she's not a woman then if we give an example of some of the dead that we have seen in the community they said ok it's true and let's forget it i think it took more than five years for them just to accept it now we decided to come up with some time until we came up and let the parade go by said. the pentagon from this community and we want them to upgrade because. we bless them then we look at the same crowd that we celebrate hold together but we didn't cut so that's what we've come up with. douglas bring some of his friends more rounds to meet me. yeah we mix of moderate

to more than ok and i did what i do you know what actually happens when i cut you you'll get along it would you go your hair and i'm very sorry and i would literally movie you know when you're loving anyone i go. i don't know i am not getting any more i don't know cher you know you're more glad that i haven't gone down and i will you know when you you know we want to let. you know. around our graphic video over to you don't go with a knife. you know what i did that. we were. going to sink.

and i we're going to do you have a daughter. how would you feel if someone said she needed to be cut and that we were going. well i think it was one of the powerful tools we've been using when we address the issues of female genital mutilation and there was another wherry persuasive incentive for the young warriors. when you see it as a moron as we talk and talk about sex you see most of the mortar rounds out of most of the men they say if they sleep with come take a gun he's very sweet insects now that's what also contains most of them what i understood say we don't need. yeah so there's also a little bit. meeting them. gives me hope. if one woman can change attitudes in one

village perhaps it's time it's possible to change entire countries. across europe immigration is high on the agenda and in hungary it's presented as a pressing issue we didn't have immigrants at all zero in the race but this is the one political topic anybody and everybody is discussing the far right is preparing for battle and their opponents or anyone who is different. prejudice some pride in hungary on al-jazeera. and monday pointed world on the. us and british companies have announced the biggest discovery of natural gas in west africa but what to do with these untapped natural resources is already a source of heated debate nothing much has changed they still spend most of their days looking forward to full dry river beds like this one five years on the syrians

still feel battered or even those who managed to escape their country haven't truly been able to escape the world. the lights are on. but there's nowhere to hide do you think we're going to see some kind of sea change in the u.s. relationship with saudi arabia i haven't said it's a right wing conspiracy or anybody's conspiracy up front own al-jazeera. hello nor intending on the top stories on al-jazeera a top adviser to donald trump has defended the u.s. president's response to the murder of a journalist was killed in saudi arabia. last month and u.s. media say the cia has found the saudi crown prince responsible white house adviser kellyanne conway says the u.s.

government has been moving fast to sanction those responsible. very to have a deep reluctance on the cliche matter or even slow moving because of the seventeen sanctions should the secretary gone and then it before he got there to try to get answers he's waiting for the final report obviously he's made many comments not just the ones that some of you can see when he cherry picked about the tragic in unspeakable murder of mr shogi and obviously we've already taken action. meanwhile saudi arabia's king sound man has made his first public comments since her murder speaking in riyadh king solomon stressed he has full faith in the kingdom's justice system but didn't mention her by name. the kingdom was established on the principles of justice and that's why we have all the trust of the judiciary and that they would do the necessary to establish the truth and surfed some states. also ensure that no penalties unpunished.

un special envoy to yemen has welcomed the who feels decision to stop the drone missile strikes against the saudi led coalition iran backed rebels also say they're ready for a broader ceasefire if the coalition quote wants peace comes as yemen saudi backed government has also confirmed it will take part in u.n. but talks in sweden later this month britain's prime minister says her plan is best for jobs as she battles members of her own party who want her out meanwhile you foreign ministers have been meeting in brussels ahead of a summit on sunday where they're expected to sign off formally on the withdrawal deal the chief negotiator has called the agreement fair and balanced. japanese listeners considering sacking its chairman for allegedly lying about his salary carlos ghosn was arrested after being questioned by prosecutors in tokyo this and says an internal investigation ongoing understated his income by millions of dollars and used company money for personal benefits. our correspondent is next

after. the northwest of kenya is home to a tribe named practiced after again for centuries that are to profit. from here to me don't tell other son who's devoted her life to ending if she am in her home county of west palm. she's married with two young children. twenty eight she's one of the few women off our age in this county who haven't been caught. early and that escape what's happening i witnessed of the cut that kids are not allowed to witness an eleven year old

and this community dentist performing to a status this what sustains. a slate cut. yeah that's done in public with the presence of men and women and young girls and young boys and this here yes we see it but they just you know it's got just a minute it's the first day that women are taken to and then that are taken to a secluded place like a bush so we sneaked in and what you just saw on the second stage was so shocking my cousin was laying down there in a pool no blood yes and women were pinning her down and had to completely you know there's a one of us who really butchering like you know how do you cut pieces of meat. i was expecting it's not to do this just that yeah but she was really doing this you know yes with a knife and she was screaming but us claims were being covered by the women and singing and you know the trying to to to cover her screams and she was helpless

what was left to their horse just like red flesh yes i still can't believe that this is something that we are still debating about. honestly. it was this traumatic experience that made dr refused to become a motivator to have to set up a charity to help and if you. were heading to the village of sandwich with one hundred sixty girls are preparing for an attorney to right of passage ceremony. we just saw me to be there because intelligible to us and to me all that they did to him. and. the trip to sandwich from them to look house takes two and a half hours through mountain passes on bumpy roads. to school and this is good. for the wellcome when we get makes it worse or.

in the pocket culture cutting traditionally involves a celebration in which the whole community takes part. the girls are to have sing their dances for the alternatives harmony. is real life come in it was beautiful i don't expect to see the focus committed love and seeing and hearing we wanted people to know that we love our culture we know we love every bit of it only but from the cut yes there's this with the feeling that is certainly not important here the teachers are from the same community. the girls received four days of lessons before their graduation day. was going no no i. don't know about. today they're learning exactly what the f.

jam involved and the health complications using models. about the madonna no no no no no no no no. no i laid there were that you were. yeah i'm not going to deliver some want to become us do. you know why not good but because i know you have a minute. i mean you're the bomb on what or when you know when you want to look good on. earth you get out of the. where you have been cut you put into seclusion for one month whereby your thought how to become a good ways how to treat your husband how to cook so we do the opposite we bring the girls in here we teach them. their children's rights work you know we did them about health implications of their so it's basically same back same thing with the car to but a different teaching because the one these girls to be important people in the society other than that my third thing i want them to learn her colleagues have had to work hard to change the attitudes of parents. in the pocket community

a cut girl can bring significant economic advantage to a poor family. a girl is made of a man brings dowry into in terms of couse and i'll tell you that it for this community the play of praise is quite high especially the girl is young and that most people tend to that of the older men because they bring a good number of culls as much as many of articles because of poverty situation they're tending to their girls when they're still young and then they married them off and they get there is quick quick quick quick quick well so much of the girl worse foreign cut girl you can actually be given away at a ferrari place million years for they might even give you away for free. because they just want to get rid of you buddy not.

at moore's graduation the girls who think dance to some composed by looking musician lucky to have a pass on a reason for wanting to and. a swat team you think is done. because done clomid in the. style of. no one helped or my meeting again i got a leg but i've got a knee he will gnaw. journey he said. to me you know. what it was and i was your sister clementine clementine how old was she living. going to the government and the more local moran.

if you don't have been illegal in kenya since two thousand and one. but around here the law has been largely ineffective. and. you suggest one sixty guys they've got around this village and the villages around . most of them are still being cut i mean we have not been able to reach out to everybody this is a big big big lie and you know it's a big county. i find out from them to know that's one of her younger sisters run away to be cut with friends. i know them to last for years but i wonder if the older generation a mother and grandmother supported her sister's decision she takes me to meet them

. bonnie. that will mean you are on my. team good look. at the. vocal that they knew the. leading down you probably know we're a little devil with them at the bar knew. i would when you were beginning we wanted out. of the you know the phone not. looking for the. most. we're. not going to buy you don't want to be. really a man of the love for me so she wrote her thing in the service it's really.

so you are against it because of the law but in your time if there was a good. well as you know what the. i've heard. he. broke the law and i want you to know the meaning you know. what i'm gonna do well you mean you are on. the bed those home a letter that a little girl got a commercial. meeting them till of crime other makes me appreciate why the key to ending f. jamming with is keeping girls in school. that way parents don't have to rely on a dowry to help support them their elders educated girls can pay for their own cows

. today the time to write of passes is being held in the market square and families. hundreds of people from many different religious have come to with misallocation yes folks so.

that was very happy. that had. a find out that some medical staff made great sacrifices to be here today that. other many of your friends here doesn't or do today have one on me a number of it. is just you hear no one else from the village. so that means they would become. politico again. are you here today are. there not to. handle them and dynamism and then something. new here just along with. let's go and join. with another go who catches my eye soon. barely even last impression on me.

the presence of dignitaries here is a testament to them till a success it means i'll turn to god to process has a stamp of approval of important eldest in the korean team. the vast majority of pocket people are christian and the graduation ceremony and with the blessing. parents and elders stand behind the girls that belong to their villages. yes yes yes. yes. it was wonderful and touching to see all the community leaders and the parents especially the father standing behind the young girls symbolically it was like saying we have your back we have your back with support you and with

a forty decision not to be caught it was wonderful to see. just wonderful. i wanted to meet. as a little early elissa girl i know to starting a family she ran away from home after her father began beating her mother believing she was the responsible for a little futile to be caught. you know this get away against susan. a finale which you need. to. let a new. diminish and. live in all who don't live.

under the. law. again a more nimble more molong up with only one done. so your family have shandor the first away bully only to meet the burden on him what do you say to young girls who are about to attend the alternative rite of passage or do said to them any what have i done i look really one eric i don't know marilyn many dealer look at the uni. ed you would gain a balance on the new community the cow was cute was a little less than the generally illegal and near iran again well i'm not one you're going with on the blogs again we're going to how they did in x.y.

deal or at i get that i want me to be gentlemen so what are your hopes and dreams for the future but in your own hand and you don't shoot double the energy not the one i'm an overgrown eugenists of analysts are pretty nimble on this is slow will. cure does your job all. crew be in school but it's elegiac am. our main course the landmark i am i'm a lan why you use some of the beaches. i'm only known within a lonely little demon all of a sudden my non minion there let any energy. nandini look at yemen american and was a dragon when in an enemy he was able to open a bag of that's a tough question. i think you're very very because i can't imagine giving up you

know live your whole family behind your siblings your father a new mother i don't know what i would have done plenty again of than all together let it doesn't get sick when it that rudy was your dear one by. millie one of the a man you know. what i see when i look at you i think someone i can see a lot of sadness in your eye but i can also see strength and determination so i believe that one day you'll have your own family one day you have your degree i believe that you will achieve all of dreams so. spending time with them to learn has been an inspiration to me through had resilience and example she's inspired so many others like ellie i'm sure in turn that element do the same yet. as i live kenya my sorts john to my

family in sweden it's time to face my own taboos. yeah. back in stockholm i meet up with my old childhood friend and fellow at a trance read with china in china. respect me a. taxi at the mic and. neither of us know enough about why the cut is performed in our own culture i'm going to introduce you to some ladies like our parents' generation you know we are that generation that doesn't talk and i think is going to be interesting because they work with the subject you know let's go. here with merit and i share our eritreans. they support women in the diaspora and sweden. for our story you missed on our last one interactions about

year history you know your mum. from then into last till then in for a book whom go there in muncie who's almost say it is so impossible in the field are in that barnett or do whole a public rina learned a whole part into all. my life or to me for your money and they have gotten control of her own account rightly her clean no nasa she had nice things about it it did have a lot of your if you are the young there are horns protestant who had to leak or under a mostly mad men we only hope. rub out of that the heart in your you're real but alex on their stick at the heart may really you want your the thirty say it or. face into body all three criteria thread of incident irv it for

folks that rule out the harder it will be i'm a little harder afrikaans probably on her last mc yeah the chances are much the honest to order and mum for via the mirror o'meara india and pakistan kurdistan iraq lot in america. america because i'm scared of the guardian then he would put up a normally taboo subject. you know being in the congo are the kind of out of two multiple couldn't all. be on school we didn't that we hadn't uplifted over the marla concha through the how do you mind. how to help the money for all those men. in getting their guy young father out. there. better at that not that it growed up. that's.

what i want candy and that's on with addicted daughter little ones i'm a mom a cross they don't that they're everything to her. mom villain to proton demand must be harder on them and i think they make a mirror and saw for download on four hundred mil you will not flick or given a smuggle t. m. doesn't go far from the end of them so i thought going to threw it out to the. young men their. consequences are that they're for this stop us so they are called scorpion on their approach. of the only. exit to so many tales coconino. protests of the your day dot com there were forty i should get off the ship maneuver on go to the front i think this court did what it the heart into. the threat itself but.

also have always known i'm not because i never asked my mother why i actually am is not a subject to discuss but today we're going to talk about it. it took a lot of convincing to persuade my mother to take part in this film my father and sister refused due to the taboo that's the subject. there's a personal question i need to ask my mother that makes me uncomfortable. so i start with the easy i want. to do and then the machine knows the machine we are near which now could wish they had been i would add. in the kind their rule washing up to life and that's a deal where the tradition big vehicle two were denied that would prevent both voted like the last out of oh no not at all like announced but i would like an individual to start by her mother must have a market and a market that them in and around the. i'm sure what i would what i'm the guy

that's going to eat but i had. a lot of each other from what i had had the only comic on the market was a lot of my kind of going to her normal home look i thought it what does an open mind what toxic. is a punk they love to read a lot of stuff that dealerships that shop off. the sacking level were. so i don't buy that the fact that i would be a law how to manage having all been out to hard the first out and about the fact that i will not meet with him because i. think really only risky enough. had allowed the air come on house i love it felt good and often the rod might be left alone or do you know england fraga best the victims from a in the out if i me

i'm do have some and far. you're the one talking about the id a fifth off out then that of a. fish my fish out the best come america not. women would it do you know that a mother i did not know my mother doesn't do. that i need to maybe not to id need to the edges why the id an intimate to have to frame out of adding i don't know some mom and mom must say. i feel such a relief after speaking with my mother i know now that she did not endure the worst form of g.m. . and i feel proud of my parent's decision to end the practice which meant that i did not endure it and in time needs it when my daughter took.

this journey cements my belief that as g.m. will end one day a change will come but it must come from hers and. from those who understand that the richness and uniqueness of culture does not depend on traditions harmful to woman. investigating a murder by the indonesian military in one thousand nine hundred ninety nine al-jazeera correspondent step bos'n takes us on a personal journey back to east timor recalling memories which impacted deeply on had chosen korea the life and the lives of others now and ninety two decades later she goes face to face with those responsible trail of murda indonesia's bloody retreat on al-jazeera.

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we u.s. government is working to sanction those responsible. a boost for yemen's peace talks as the government says it will take part in the un backed process and who the rebels promise to stop their drone and missile strikes. one of the global car industry's biggest superstars carlos ghosn is arrested over financial misconduct. in spall the netherlands looks set to miss out on a place of the european nations league finals needing a draw to qualify ahead of world champions france that sunil down against. a top adviser to donald trump has defended the u.s. president's response to the murder of a journalist was killed in saudi arabia. last month and u.s. media say the cia has found the saudi crown prince responsible but what house advisor kellyanne conway says the u.s. government has been moving fast to sanction those responsible are white house

correspondent kimberly hellcat has more. as us president to arnold trump welcome to the annual arrival of the white house christmas tree was their brother and he said nothing about a forthcoming report into the death of journalist. who was murdered in the saudi consulate last month in turkey trump has promised repeatedly he would make a decision on whether to take tough action including sanctions against the highest levels of the saudi government and might go. when one does martial your opinion on that subject over the next you're going to be having a very full report over the next two days a top adviser denies he's delaying a decision was it really i think i disagree that he wasn't he's not reluctant and he's not saluting the president anything but slow moving vice president mike pence and secretary of state mike pump a zero have both promised the trumpet ministration will insure all those

responsible are held accountable twenty one saudi nationals have had visas revoked and last week the u.s. treasury sanctions seventeen saudis in connection with the murder but none of those actions targeted the saudi crown prince mohammed bin salma despite the recently leaked cia conclusion that he ordered to use murder a top democratic senator is now calling on the trumpet ministration to make the cia assessment public one analyst says the white house is trying to buy time for the saudis and preserve the strategic u.s. saudi relationship in place for decades president trump understands. the relationship by providing rhetoric in support of the bilateral relationship and yet here we are involved congress is less patient there's a move underway in the senate to stop the sale of arms to saudi arabia for offensive purposes and permanently hold u.s.

refueling planes from supporting the saudi led coalition in yemen in a sharply divided congress it's a rare bipartisan effort to pressure the trump white house to act kimberly helped get al-jazeera the white house and the nation out from my counter in washington d.c. so mike can we still expect this report to trump talked about on the on the issue. well he said it so many times that he is going to hear the report within a few days or next day or during the week as you heard then kimberly's package the cia indicate that they will be handing over a report to president now obviously he has already been briefed by the cia he was released briefed by the director on the return from turkey where she had briefings with the turkish counterparts he's been briefed by mike pompei or the secretary of state incidentally state also says no conclusion has yet been reached but still those calls from congress and some senators insisting that president trump is

attempting to protect the crown prince not only that but also to protect his strategic vision in which the crown prince plays such a central role with regard to his proposed plan or rumored plan for a middle east peace settlement and of course for us moves against iran so he does seem at odds with congress somewhat over this is there or is there a kind of bridge in between it all. well it's very difficult to see i think that it's not only being at odds with congress one must mention as well this is a bipartisan move in congress to establish accountability even if it involves the crown prince as well president trump is also at odds with his intelligence agencies now this is nothing new he repudiation his intelligence agencies reports for example on the question of russian collusion in the u.s. election he heard from his agencies that yes there was russian can collusion

however he dismissed that out of hand he appears to be dismissing the intelligence agencies conclusion in this particular case in the case numerous reports indicated that the cia had reached a conclusion that yes the crown prince was involved in and responsible for the death of jamal khashoggi but president trump appears to be waving this away only twenty four hours ago he told an interviewer that he's still not sure whether the crown prince is involved and the crown prince has told him on five occasions that he had no involvement at all so president not only at odds with congress but also it would appear at odds with his own intelligence services mike hanna thank you very much indeed where spirit has that saudi arabia's crown prince mohammed bin sound man will participate in the g. twenty summit in argentina at the end of the month last week he was cleared by saudi prosecutions of any involvement in the murder of shoji and give publicly for

the first time since the death of his father king solomon stressed he had full faith in the kingdom's justice system. engineering. the kingdom was established on the principles of justice and that's why we have all the trucks not judiciary and that they would do the necessary to establish the truth and serve justice in the kingdom of also ensure that no penalties when we go unpunished. have been more revelations in the turkish media about the matter and getting reports that nineteen calls were made from istanbul consulate to saudi arabia on the day of the incident ma'am invalidations from istanbul the eggs have still have a lot to reveal to the world and they still have a lot of ammunition for the total destruction of the saudi and other to the latest of that came today reported by two newspapers who had access to part of the recordings and new sections of the recordings that the turkish security authorities

apparently have got. and that shows that the saudi narrative about the fact that the fifteen men who came here who were sent. to negotiate according to the saudi story to negotiate with. to return to saudi arabia that is not true according to these revelations they show that the moment he entered the consulate the consulate foreman received him there in section a the visas are normally processed and one of them grabbed his hand and pulled him to the section b. the office of the concert is located and he. tried to this is that and told the man leave me alone who do you think you are and the response of the man who is said according to the recordings to be. to be one of this special advice special security aide to mohammed the same man the crown prince he shouted at him insulting

him and he said traitor your day of reckoning has come and then they took him to the office of the consul and that's when the recording. field shouts and screaming and pain from torture cries. and that was apparently the beginning of the operation. joining me in the studio nice at least on this bill law thanks so much for coming in and so what we seem to have a situation in in the states where we wait of this report the trumpets promise but he still appears to be taking at face value the denials from saudi arabia that someone was involved and that puts mathilde's with apparently with that with the cia how long can that kind of dissonance last year well it's interesting he's been there before his knee with with the whole russian situation where the cia and intelligence people were saying look the russians were involved and he's saying well i talked to putin and he said no he wasn't involved and he said well i talk to him on this amman and he's assured me no it wasn't involved that of five or six

times i think that the the pressure is building on trump because there's a bipartisan movement afoot and people like lindsey graham who's a senior. republican senator and close to trump i mean he's gone record as saying that. but someone as unstable he's unreliable i'm not going to do business with this guy and the democrats would love the opportunity to hold donald trump feet to the fire as well and of course they now control congress so or will surely be in charge of that and i think that he's taking a political gamble isn't it because he's apparently going to stand by his man and so i mean we will see that man speaking out today i mean in the context of a speech which is probably never going to mention but what do you make of that sort of security vent well i think you know the sure every year the king's speech the sure no one bothers because not much is of interest and this this time of course everyone is interested will there be a mention of. no mention of her show she of course drawing attention would perhaps

cause some more issues some more difficulties but everyone in that room would have been thinking about how should she as indeed people outside are thinking but the situation what do you make of that if anything we read anything into the fact that there are reports that the crown prince is going to go to the g. twenty summit in argentina does that suggest that he thinks his position has been shoulda i think he believes in a he's in isn't a comfortable place his father clearly is backing him and donald trump is backing him binyamin netanyahu is supporting him so i think he's feeling very confident and equally there are not people within the ruling family who feel strong enough to challenge him so that he is in a reasonably comfortable place but of course the international program continues and the turks continue to keep the pressure up the enemy you mentioned international reaction we've had germany for instance banning eight hundred saudis just on monday from traveling to to europe and also halting arms sales and.

what you see that is going to germany acting on its energy think we're going to start to see the blocks of european bloc align behind that position i think that we will see the u.k. begin to take stronger action certainly jeremy hunt has been more assertive on several fronts. france is playing a bit of. a cat and mouse game on this one because i think mark ronson is there maybe some advantage to not showing his hand on and so i don't think they'll be necessarily a completely unified european front but i think there will be serious repercussions and the pressure will continue and the meantime just about to kingsholm on that we we saw today what how do you read his kind of position of memes in saudi arabia what's he trying to.