for talks martin griffith the u.n. envoy has been to send his talk to the healthy leaders there he's due to go to her data later today has he made any progress to get them to sit down for talks. or not in good faith is very hopeful about there will be talks between the warring in yemen early december in sweden what he has said is that he has gotten a commitment from both purtiest that they will be up time being and as in going forward to give assurances to their all these they would not only be allowed to leave the country but they will also be allowed to come back on but he has gotten this commitment from the sodium without ticklish and of course he is leading the biggest diplomatic push in the past two years for a negotiated settlement to the conflict in the yemen days of feeling within the international community the united nations the united states european countries that there is

a need to stop this war now to stop the humanitarian crisis that's unfolding in yemen spiraling farther into a catastrophe thank you that is mohammed outdoor reporting live from djibouti and not mom advantage as i mentioned earlier thank you for that mom. and the u.k. has presented a draft resolution to the u.n. calling for an immediate truce in her data brains foreign secretary says the resolution gives both sides of the conflict two week deadline to remove all barriers to him and terry and. what we're witnessing is a man humanitarian catastrophe inflicted by a conflict that has raged for too long i went to saudi arabia i went to the u.s. and i went to iran and in all cases i had tough messages for the people that i was speaking to about the fact that this situation has to change. still ahead on al-jazeera we'll tell you about the refugees in bosnia stuck in limbo and

vulnerable to violence plus controversy surrounds the death of a u.s. missionary at the hands of a remote island try. to welcome back here in the national weather forecast well across europe we have seen plenty of cold air particularly here across central europe and we are going to continue to see that cold air mostly for central eastern europe over the next few days well we're going to start to see some modifications out here towards the west now temperatures here on thursday are still going to be in the single digits as a high temperature so london at eight in paris at seven but we're going to see those temperatures start to rise slowly as we go towards the end of the week we're also picking up a lot more moisture we're picking up the southerly flow and storms coming out of the atlantic so we're going to be watching this very carefully also some snow over here towards the italian alps over the next few days down towards rome it is going

to be a cool day if you with a temperature of eighteen degrees well here across another part of africa we are going to be seeing the rain continue over here towards morocco but finally a change in the forecast as we go towards friday that frontal system makes its way through robot finally and we are going to be seeing maybe some more showers push across and then as we go towards the weekend it could be parts of algeria also over here towards the northern coast of egypt we are going to see some rain mostly for alexandria over the next few days that's going to continue for most of the eastern med but here across libya it is not looking too bad few we are looking at for policing a partly cloudy day with a temperature of twenty four. in calls british excluded and under attack. communities are paying the price of one thousand nationalism in a country which it so. people in power

investigates the surgeon hate crimes at the hands of far right groups. ukrainian repression on al-jazeera. and watching al-jazeera i remind our top stories this hour assad your abs foreign minister has again defended the crown prince denying reports that mom had been summoned position is under threat over the murder of jamal khashoggi meanwhile denmark has joined germany in suspending weapons sales to saudi arabia over the journalist scaling. the u.s. defense secretary says the saudi u.a.e.

coalition has again sees its offensive around the many port city of the data talks between the warring sides in yemen are due to take place in early december in sweden. and the u.n. special envoy to yemen has met who feel it is in the capital sanaa martin griffith is expected to travel to a data on thursday or friday the port city is crucial for food and aid supplies. that china and india both keeping a close eye on the political crisis in sri lanka china sees the island nation in the indian ocean as crucial to its sponsor expand trade routes but india is nervous about encroachments in what it sees as its backyard bonus for three for some colombo. for centuries stopping off in sri lanka on china's ancient silk road trade routes linking east with west merchants would buy spices poland ivory. today china

see sri lanka as a critical link in its modern day silk road what it calls its belt and road initiative is building infrastructure projects to expand trade from asia africa and europe. china's spending spree is making india nervous and it's helped to cause friction at the top of the sri lankan government ending up with president my three policy or a say in a firing the prime minister running a wickramasinghe china has been quite active in taking over projects in sri lanka not only go on one project if you were only you in private sector projects there was an attempt on the part of prime minister commencing to indiana. indian company to pick or one of the sections of the port to which the president was not in agreement so if you take that into consideration one woods here in new delhi is not very happy with the development of ports in the south was

built with chinese loans but it's so and they used that the sri lankan government couldn't afford to keep it running so it gave the chinese government a foothold with a ninety nine year lease sri lanka owes more than fifty billion dollars to foreign lenders but seventy seven percent of g.d.p. chinese loans make up eight billion dollars of that but india and japan are owed much more their problem is not drawn or anyone else the problem is that they believe we have to do a lot of work here and those investments will be in will be many fully and in a way that did. a good return so that we will be able to be bad the problem has been dead those investments i believe probably might need them the twentieth game but at the moment we have a big role in next year sri lanka has to start paying back more than four billion dollars in foreign loans and not just got harder because the rupee is foreign to

its lowest level ever against the dollar that could force the government to look for sympathetic friends willing to help ease the country's debt. bernard smith al-jazeera columbia. poland's government governing party rather has bowed to an e.u. ruling and moved to reinstate supreme court judges it had forced into early retirement in october poland lowered the retirement age from seventy to sixty five the controversial law force about two dozen judges off the bench and led to weeks of protests the government which argued the law was needed to root out communist era judges says it respects the rules and the number of migrants arriving in europe is at its lowest in the last five years a tough european sounds has prevented many of them from entering but those stuck in limbo in bosnia have revealed stories of brutality by croatian border police david chaytor went to the bosnian border town of the hike to find out more forces go

through. the bosnian border city of be heard she's on the front line of europe's latest refugee crisis the residents are no strangers to warfare and his affects the fighting in the civil war here in the one nine hundred ninety s. displaced two million people they were demanding the government take action to provide the refugees with humane living conditions that same night we found a group of afghan teenagers huddled around an electric fire at the main station. they told me in graphic detail how cross border guards had kicked them and beaten them with truncheons. for their mobile phones were smashed and they were forced back into the river that runs along the border line one of them had his head held under the water. the line between bosnia and croatia is the european union's longest and most fun rable external border fear is being used to defend it the

refugees call it the game but it's a brutal game trying to find the weakest point in a border that stretches for more than nine hundred kilometers with croatia we've found with local help this crossing point you can simply walk through but you don't know how far you're going to get or what's going to happen to you the injuries being suffered by the refugees act as a clear warning to others when they return to their makeshift camps aid workers estimate there are now five thousand of them stuck in the limbo of bosnia there are shelters for only a few hundred they've come from syria somalia pakistan and iraq most of them said they were trying to reach germany medics working here are angry at the sheer number of victims they have had to treat they showed me photographs of their wounds many they said were deliberately inflicted charities are providing what help they can a warm shower once a week blankets a new clothing to survive the subzero temperatures but they say the european union

has turned its back on their suffering basically paying for it to be done they just want it be done silence they just don't want to play city human traffickers are opening up smuggling routes for those who can afford to pay. refugee storm border posts last month they have no money left they too were beaten back. in the camps another group of refugees prepared to go out on the game again are those of bringing back firewood to survive the winter. al-jazeera all the polls new border with croatia. the united nations says urgent steps must be taken to avoid a catastrophic famine in central african republic it's declared a food security emergency just one level below famine the u.n. says sixty percent of people there needs humanitarian assistance it's urging the government to guarantee the safe return of refugees so they can work the fields and

produce food more than a million people have fled fighting in central african republic since twenty thirty hundreds of protesters have been fighting with police in venezuela's capital caracas demonstrators were out marking the anniversary of a student uprising against the dictatorship more than sixty years ago but they've also been calling for better conditions at universities across the country which have deteriorated because of the economic crisis. in the united states thousands of people caught up in the california wildfires will be spending thanksgiving homeless survivors are also bracing for a new threats heavy rainfall as much as twenty centimeters of rain is expected by friday and the latest death toll has gone up to eighty three people killed by the fires with hundreds of others still missing. right now i'm just trying to get all of these things cleaned up to put away from the rain because we're being forced to move out of here and. most of the people left here are homeless and they're not

fire vacuum and i am myself a fire victim and my house is gone so i don't have anywhere to go so. i feel pain and. i just really wish that somebody were able to. give us a place to go just to get out in the rain and that's all i've this moment i don't know how much more anybody else can do there's been such an outpouring of help and support and food in people bringing coats and umbrellas. and all those things are so hopeful but at the end of the day i have nowhere to go. a dust storm in the state of new south wales is heading for the country's largest city sydney this video shows the storm as it rolled through the town of white cliffs about a thousand kilometers northwest of sydney it's being pushed by strong winds blowing through drought stricken region. now an american man has been killed on

a remote island in the indian ocean by one of the last tribes untouched by modern civilization twenty seven year old john chyle was attempting to make contact with the tribe on north sentinel in the bay of bengal when it's reported he was shot with an arrow the sentinel least people number in the low hundreds and are known to be fearful of and aggressive towards visit is to protect them india has banned people from going within five kilometers of the island i.j. signy is a researcher and writer who specializes in the mon island tribes he says a sense at least have repeatedly pushed back against official reports efforts to make contacts with them. these people have historically remain isolated and if you look at the history there are used to be a large number of indigenous people in the end him and nicobar islands and indigenous. and them and they were depopulated to

a large extent and these are few indigenous the number is up to fifty fifty two hundred or maybe five hundred that's what the projected number is so big they have shown all the time types with the outward and they believe isolated on their back and. the government of india tried to have contact missions with these people and those missions were suspended like except for a few instances ben. the outsiders anthropologists would come in closer contact with these people they could exchange gifts with them and and the standard list accepted those gifts except for a few instances the most of the missions were failure and because of that the entire time that mission be to tried was. suspended and these people remained isolated and the policy of the government who are these people was like we keep our

eyes on them but we keep our hands off. of these people. now to the philippines where artists are using their talents to fight back against the government their keys of silencing the media and free speech to me that linda going rate for. their abstracts messages. in the country of widespread poverty and violence artists emo says he espoused his voice he says the current state of democracy in the philippines is what fuels his creativity and. he uses elements from a popular culture to make a political statement part of a growing trend in the art community you know the artist thrives in adversity i think the amount of artwork that's being churned out right now is somewhat omit there of whatever is happening not only in the country but you know in the world through this under siege and the state placed the pin down.

art would always be an effective second line of defense. to the president to be good at their do was sworn into office the number of artworks highlighting controversial issues continues to grow like the government's war on drugs that has left thousands of filipinos dead. the resurgence of protests art is seen as a response to the growing authoritarianism in the country but artists here tell us finding the moral courage to do so doesn't come easy. it is creative provocative and one that resonates more with ordinary working people and their struggles than the more privileged in society. much of the art is identified with the leftist movement in the country one that's often been at odds

with governments past and present it starts. during the martial law period an artist tries to confess what he feels what he thinks should be seen by the public that challenges people to feeling. women so representative rights militarization and the displacement of indigenous peoples are just some of the issues artists do the child we from. people who see this art see they recognize the courage needed by the artists to produce and show their work art that aims to mirror society rather than escape it b.c. has never been more relevant in the country jamila duggan zero.

zero again i'm fully back to go with the headlines on al-jazeera denmark has become the latest country to suspend weapon sales to saudi arabia over the killing of journalist. meanwhile saudi arabia's foreign minister has again insisted that the crown prince mohammed bin salman wasn't involved in the journalist's killing is also denied reports that the crown prince's position is under threat but the reuters news agency says it's standing by its reforms. should the children be represented in the kings and the problems is a red line for the saudi man or woman the country is totally supportive of them to condemn the saudi arabia is committed to the vision to only do so photos for us in terms of vision twenty thirty and in terms of moving along the path of reform in while turkey has accused the us president of turning a blind eye to it jamal khashoggi is murder in an attempt to preserve washington's relationship with riyadh a senior turkish official called president thomas remarks about a major comic. the u.s.

defense secretary james mattis says the saudi coalition in yemen has again seized an offensive around the port city of her data matters says talks between the warring sides will take place in sweden in early december meanwhile the u.n. special envoy to yemen has met with the leaders in the capital sanaa martin griffith is expected to travel to her dates and later the port is crucial for food and aid supplies the united nations says urgent steps must be taken to avoid a catastrophic famine in central african republic the u.n. says sixty percent of people there needs humanitarian assistance. left. even evoke this is a warning to be reaching level four it's a warning and we're not talking about teen people we're talking about a few hundreds of thousands of people i'm blowing the whistle not to say a famine will happen tomorrow but to say that all the measures must be taken to avoid it happening we are regularly criticized for not doing enough prevention well that's what this is preventing famine and it's

a collective responsibility we alone cannot change the circumstances to avoid a famine. as always more news on our website at al-jazeera dot com the very latest on all of our top stories there al-jazeera dot com i'll be back with more news in about twenty five minutes coming up next on al-jazeera inside story. thank you and the difference here. and this in the ninety's of cultures across the world. let us. maybe he did and maybe he didn't trump take on the saudi crown prince is role in jamal khashoggi if he was president signals no sanctions on north korea too many billions of dollars of business at risk america first or just islam this is inside

story. the at the end standing out with saudi arabia the title of donald trump statement says it all the u.s. president admits mohammed bin selman may have known about the plan to lead a journalist jamal khashoggi the cia says the crown prince actually ordered it but trump contradicted his intelligence agency saying that's not a definitive determination and in any case he says it would be foolish to take action against riyadh that would threaten lucrative weapons deals he says and push up the price of oil very simple said trump it's america fast but it might not be that simple all eyes are now on the u.s. congress to see what it will do and will join our guests in just a moment after this report from she ever tansey and washington. i here

by the way you. are the white house thanksgiving tradition of the president pardoning a turkey took on a grim significance this year a short time earlier donald trump made it clear he was giving the saudi crown prince a pass in the killing of saudi journalist jamal khashoggi in an eight paragraph statement filled with the rhetorical flourishes the exclamation marks and slogans characteristic of the president's tweets don't trump made his argument king solomon and crown prince mohammed bin simon vigorously denying any knowledge of the planning and execution of the murder of mr khashoggi our intelligence agencies continue to assess all information but it could very well be that the crown prince had knowledge of this tragic events maybe he did and maybe he didn't our relationship is with the kingdom of saudi arabia donald trump went on they have been a great ally in our very important fight against iran the united states intends to remain a steadfast partner of saudi arabia to ensure the interests of our country israel

and all other partners in the region very simply it is called america first basically he was saying that our relationship as saudi arabia solve porn really doesn't matter later in the day mr trump was asked about his staunch support for the saudis we're not going to give up hundreds of billions of dollars in orders and let russia china and everybody else have a it's all about them a very simple it's america first after talks with might compare in washington the turkish foreign minister also discussed the complexity of his nation's relations with saudi arabia making it clear that i'm going to don't want to sabotage those links but he added this we know well that the team who came to stumble did not come because they wanted to but they came at the request of somebody we know though that this person is not the king there was a withering response from the washington post who wrote four hundred list rights groups president trump is correct in saying the world is a very dangerous place the washington post said in a statement his surrender to the state. ordered murder will only make it moral so

an innocent man brutally slain deserves better as does the cause of truth justice and human rights in this failure of leadership from president trump it now falls to congress to stand up for america's true values and lasting interests the committee to protect journalists tweeted this if you boil the white house statement down to its essence president trump has just asserted that if you do enough business with the u.s. you are free to murder journalists that's an appalling message to send to saudi arabia and the world but it seems the trumpet ministration has made a decision not to be concerned by the ridicule and disbelief that has greeted its arguments and ultimate position on the khashoggi killing shihab rattansi al-jazeera washington. ok let's bring in our guests and joining us here in doha mohamed el masry associate professor of journalism at the doha institute for graduate studies and washington d.c. . middle east analyst and columnist and in london since you have bianco senior

analyst and researcher at gulf state and that is my warm welcome to all of you get first of all your reaction what do you make of donald trump statement which very clearly has come directly from the president himself. well what we're seeing is the president trump is consistent in his trump in rhetoric and he promotes the america first agenda his rhetoric should be understood with and the context of the. american mode at the moment and the american mode whether it is in the media or in the foreign policy establishment or with india congress that business as usual between the united states and saudi arabia cannot continue and and this path that we have been on how for the past two years will not no longer be tolerated so president trump was essentially trying to provide rhetorical support for salvaging what is left of the u.s. saudi relationship because the congress is now moving forward with imposing

sanctions on the saudi government including potentially on prince mohammed himself but do you think it strange that doesn't fully absolve mohammed bin solomon of involvement in this matter when he says it could very well be that the crown prince had knowledge of this tragic event that he is still very much sitting on the fence isn't he. i think that he is the liberally seeking to be ambiguous about it because on one hand his intelligence services namely to cia has concluded that this murder was ordered by the highest levels of the saudi government on the other hand the entire us foreign policy establishment understands that the eighty year old strategic alliance wit saudi arabia must continue even though saudi arabia has now committed to screw some murder so what president trump asus and chile trying to do is to balance these two things with his trump ian style and his classic rhetoric

which is off putting to a lot of people obviously but it's silva just what is left of the us saudi relationship why do you think obama would have reacted any differently do you think trump is essentially taking the same line that any american president would when it comes to saudi arabia. well it's an interesting question the u.s. has a long history that predates donald trump and barack obama of sort of sidelining human rights issues human rights concerns for larger american strategic interests at times the u.s. government has ignored human rights violations and at other times the united states government has carried out human rights atrocities of their own all in the name of strategic interests i think the difference here is that president obama was was refined he was polished and he was he was very subtle all the while sort of paying

to human rights rhetoric and principles whereas donald trump is obviously very unrefined he's not very polished he's very sort of explicit and aggressive in his tone and that is what i think many you know people including many americans and people inside the u.s. congress find sort of if offensive and unbecoming of the office of the presidency right we'll get back to what the u.s. mint will do in just a moment for us we'll since i want to bring you in at this point and just get an idea perhaps from you as to how the saudi crown prince is feeling about this statement from donald trump because as i said it doesn't absolve him of involvement in this murder but of course that keeps business as usual policy alive and well absolutely mohamed bin some monomania that's one of the best outcomes also bull because of course president trump could not

a completely in this regard to the conclusions of the cia so he chose to do something different which is throw in some plausible deniability maybe he did maybe he did and basically i don't care that much whether he did it even though he may it may have been responsible we will continue doing business as usual so i think that's a very that's a very welcome statement from mohammed his home mom. and so you think that he's going to be feeling quite happy at the moment with the reaction that we've seen so far from washington yes absolutely i think that that's the best of you could have up to four of course again it couldn't the president trump could not completely disregard all the information and the cia's assessment but it is same time is plausible deniability is everything that mohammed bin some money needed to sort of put into question even the assessment of the cia ok. donald trump left the door

open for congress to make the next move the washington post says that it now falls to congress to stand up for what it was america's true values so are we now going to see congress taking for action. we have already seen that day chairman of the senate foreign relations committee bob corker a republican from tennessee and his counterpart from the democratic party bob menendez have now requested that. the senate should pass legislation that would. would require require president trump to come forth on whether or not mom had been some on was responsible for ordering desex accused and so that's the first step the second step that is coming in that because this cia assessment will be used as the lunch pin if you will for for the congress to

determine who is responsible for disk killing. this this will help lawmakers provide a sanctions regime on the saudi leadership and potentially on the prince of self all of that could. could essentially cripple the saudi economy us it will be illegal for american businesses to invest into saudi economy so that's one aspect the second aspect is that what we have seen from the russia investigation after russia interfered in the u.s. presidential elections is that even though president trump provided the rhetorical coverage for his relationship with putin president putin of russia the u.s. legislation and sanctions imposed has essentially crippled the u.s. russia relationship and i think that we can move in a similar direction now wit the u.s. saudi relationship so this extraordinary serious and therefore i think that despite

all the rhetorical furious coming from president trump the relationship could only get worse from the from just point on ok but how far though do you think these moves by congress are going to go how what is actually going to be achieved if we look at the investigation. and into someone's culpability and how would that work and then we look at sanctions on the saudi leadership of donald trump's already made it very clear that the arms sales are a red line that will not be crossed we will not lose any of the money coming from saudi arabia from that so what room has congress actually got to move ahead congress can and can apply pressure i think we should also remember that pressure from congress influenced president trump already to impose sanctions on seventeen members of the saudi royal the saudi government they were mid-level officials and already in jail for the most part assume that they were sort of meaningless

sanctions but it's an example of the kind of pressure that that congress can impose and as the other guest said they're now asking trump to provide a response on mohamed bin some man's involvement within the next i believe it's one hundred twenty days or a hundred twenty days from october tenth as i believe i believe the date. but i but i think it's also important to keep in mind that. the congress can propose legislation that would prevent arms sales to saudi arabia and there is something called a veto proof majority i'm i'm not an expert on american the american legal system but i believe it's to a two thirds majority in both chambers so if the if if the both the republican sorry of both the house and the senate. can come up with these super majorities then it might not matter what donald trump wants or or thinks they got to see

noting that his veto proof majority is that something that we're likely to see an act it absolutely because what we have seen as the leading up to the killing we have seen that the congressman is moving into a direction of limiting u.s. support for the war in yemen and now with the hush killing becoming. a domestic political football which is drawing outrage not just from the media and the political establishment but also from ordinary citizens this is something that the american congress cannot let go by so. it is expected that this will easily be passed by by both houses of congress ok so where can and where will the u.s. likely hit saudi where it hurts. i mean here it's very it's very important that we try to differentiate between the authorities and the competences of the different u.s. institutions so for instance those thirty's like the pentagon have already

taken some steps which are significant as we know day have decided to stop refueling saudi jets hitting in yemen and that's absolutely crucial for if you if you have a look at you know military cup abilities in saudi arabia and how fundamental that pentagon support was so that's you know very significant and the same time the state department has similar room for maneuver but i'm a bit more doubtful that actually measures that are truly i'm in full in the sense that could be also perceived as damaging to quote unquote strategic interests could be pasta in the congress especially because they require a two thirds majority and you know that's why i was referring to the fact that the statement that came out of the white house was very well received in riyadh because the statement also sad that trump is willing to consider other positions from

congress men but there is a caveat it says if they don't hurt america and american interests in his own words or something like that is some of that brings us back to the original point if they're not going to hurt the trade deals between saudi and the u.s. what can the u.s. do to really punish saudi arabia if it wants to. well you know it depends on who you're talking about inside inside the u.s. i mean right now what we have to keep in mind is that the u.s. government is very polarized and not just between republicans and democrats but you know there there's very much a division in terms of the relationship with with saudi arabia and the affair so you know donald trump is trying to go on you know business as usual he wants to sweep all this on under the rug he's hoping that that statement will will do the trick meanwhile you have these representatives and senators who are very troubled

by by what's happened happening and i think that we're still in the very early stages of a prolonged kind of power struggle and i think it's going to intensify once the democrats take former conformal control of the house of representatives and a couple of months ok so no clear paul as yet from within america things here what pressure can forces outside america particular perhaps the e.u. other countries bring to bear on the u.s. to do more i think the crucial issue here is foreign direct investment so three words saudi arabia desperately needs foreign direct investment. if it were how if it wants any chance of a vision twenty thirty succeeding and we know that mohammed in salon is very popular but his popularity also depends on his ability to carry the country forward in terms of the main structural weaknesses in socio economic terms such as youth

unemployment youth unemployment and job creation is of course intimately related to foreign direct investments and this is actually it's not a particularly political per se but it is this is actually the most important issue right now mohamed vinson months desk out to a truck. this kind of investment and this kind of investment tends to be long term therefore investors are particularly concerned on political risk when they make these choices and and it's increasingly clear that they are so i think that this is the most important card to be played to understand to convey the message that these kind of of policies and it's not only related to also to the war in yemen and to the initiatives against qatar so aggressive foreign policy is choices are

a problem for investors because they increase political risk so this is i think the most significant card left to play ok so good news that woman sama saudi crown prince will be attending the g. twenty summit in argentina towards the end of next week that's going to be quite an interesting event to watch isn't it. certainly and there's been some rumors that he will even need to add president trump that remains to be seen of course but the president erdogan of turkey will be there as well so it's important to to remember it at this that this crisis trilateral crisis if you will it's it's primarily between president erdogan and and mohamed been some on would present trump really playing an outside role because what we have seen so far is that the turks have not let up on the pressure of leaking these damaging details pertaining

to the murder and details pertaining to to day operations leading up to the murders so so it is important to recognize that any sort of solution to this crisis lies in in ankara and it is on clear as of yet how this saudis and the turks can't negotiate between themselves now that all the details about these this murderous out in the open it and therefore i would caution that president trump is really more or less a sideshow because what he essentially did yesterday through his statement was to give space to decide the royal family to deal internally on how they want to proceed with this matter now that they know that sanctions are coming the saudi royal family need to discuss whether or not wanted been solomon will remain crown prince or maybe whether he will be removed from succession and the united states and turkey do not have any influence on that internal dynamic

so a lot going on that point about attacking from those i'm glad you've brought into it you say that all the details are out in the open mohammed is that the case or do you think techie has any more evidence that definitively links the saudi crown prince to this not. well the turks have been very strategic they've been systematically leaking information kind of this drip drip manner over the last several weeks and there have been a couple times where i've thought to myself that you know maybe that's it and then they've leaked more information so i wouldn't at this point be surprised if they have they have additional information that they've just kind of been biding their time waiting for for trump to release the statement and to even maybe see how things are playing out inside inside the u.s. congress. but i think that it does appear clear at this point that you know we were a lot of people were waiting for the body to be found but it appears clear that the

body is never going to be found because it was reports suggest it was do is dissolved in acid after it was dismembered. so from that standpoint i don't know that we're going to get any additional i don't i don't i don't know that we're going to get anything that explicitly and definitively links the crime to mohamed bin sun and in the sense that you know there's you know some sort of d.n.a. evidence or some sort of you know smoking gun some sort of a statement from a saudi official that says muhammad bin son you know ordered this but with the evidence that we already have that certainly appears to be the case and we'll have to just wait and see over the next few days maybe a few weeks to see if the turks have additional evidence implicating mohamed bin said in a sense or do you think that the saudis have been surprised by the strength of the global reaction to. given that the reaction to the war in yemen is somewhat new to it by comparison to think they will quote initially of surprise to still find it

pressuring the kingdom. yeah absolutely especially within you know the the decision makers to circle there was a lot of surprise at the backlash caused by these episodes especially as you said because other not only other policy choices the victims of the yemen war but also other slightly similar cases all the rest so this events and other journalists where basically what left them noticed so it was it was quite a surprise and also with the general public public in saudi they were surprised that there were there was no question just last lisa good i just want to get an idea from news you think the u.s. will ever change it stumps toward saudi no matter what it does. yeah i think you're

i think it has and i think that if you look at king saul monts speech today before the shura council did they before yesterday you saw that there were some indications that saudi arabia is returning to record on court normalcy and one of those indications the call for peace talks with yemen sooty rebels the recognition of palestinian affairs and saudi arabia's traditional support for the palestinian cause and even what i'm hearing in washington and through my own networks this that the upcoming g.c.c. summit in riyadh which will take place on on december ninth and all the leaders of the g.c.c. countries will be there so so in other words we are expecting that the g.c.c. row will come to an end and i think that these are part of the kind of concessions that president trump has extracted from the saudi leadership here and behind us ians diplomatic dealings ok fascinating discussion once again many thanks for

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news agency stands by its reporting that members of the saudi royal family want to prevent the crown prince from becoming. fully back to boil watching al-jazeera live from doha also coming up the u.n. envoy is due to visit the many port city of days where fighting continues despite claims the coalition has pause its offensive and the filipino artists using their talents to fight back against what they fear is an increasingly authoritarian government. thank you for joining us denmark has joined germany in suspending weapon sales to saudi arabia over the matter of jamal the saudi foreign minister has again insisted that crown prince mohammed bin salman was not involved in the killing. has also

denied reports that some members of the royal family want to block the crown prince from becoming king but the reuters news agency says it's standing by its reporting she has more from washington. even as the saudi foreign minister insisted investigations were ongoing into the death of jamal khashoggi it was clear one possibility was not to be considered but the journalist was killed at the order of the highest levels of the saudi government has legitimated that this was an operation that was that went wrong or people exceeded their authorities did something they're not supposed to do we have made it very clear that we're investigating that those who committed this crime will be protestants and that procedures will be reviewed in which to make sure it doesn't happen again you also dismissed a reuters report that some members of the saudi ruling family wanted to block crown prince mohammed bin salman from assuming the throne he so outrageous comments that are being made are totally unacceptable and the kingdom of saudi arabia is unified

on this issue the kingdom sanjay is committed to its leadership the kingdom of saudi arabia is committed to the vision that our leaders have put forth for us in terms of vision twenty thirty and in terms of moving along the path of reform of the pentagon u.s. defense secretary james mattis discussed the administration's reasons for backing saudi arabia despite calls for accountability for casualties murder on the khashoggi affair he said presidents don't often get the freedom to work with unblemished partners in all things you don't mention the conflict in yemen if you want to end the war you're going to deal with saudi you can't say i'm not going to deal with them a rejection of the policy advocated by an increasing number of members of congress to apply pressure on saudi arabia to end the war by ending the u.s. arms sales upon which its offensive depends matters a statements echoed the doctrine of spiles by donald trump and his statement on tuesday the us is strategic interest supersede all else and i'll give it the received a withering response from the editor of the washington post who published a market share g.'s articles i was astonished even after two years of kind of

astonishing and dismaying things from this president this one was is really almost beyond belief and it's wrong on so many levels. i mean of course it's wrong to excuse the murder of. journalist. of any human being which he's doing but even a ton of strategic basis you know i mean he seems to see it as well we can't worry about things like morality and human rights because we need saudi arabia but for now the trumpet vilest ration seems impervious to criticism of its explanation of what will act against saudi arabia she ever term washington while there's growing concern that the u.s. president's refusal to criticize a saudi crown prince over the killing of jamal could embolden human rights abuses around the world turkey has accused donald trump of ignoring the journalists met it

with his latest comments tony but lee has more from the stumble. president donald trump's statement of support for saudi arabia was perhaps no great shock in turkey but there was derision. yesterday statement is just comical the cia would know not only who killed them but what color the consulate cats were. the turkish government has said nothing officially but privately is angered by the u.s. president ignoring a horrific murder because of economic reasons and there are worries this could lead to other governments abandoning human rights if you have a situation in the united states where you have a leader which is hostile to principle if you have a situation that you haven't european union where many leaders who are once. defending human rights principles are now indifferent or silent or abuses taking place for example here in turkey or elsewhere i think this is a very. damaging time for human rights principles amnesty

has issued a report about how women activists have been tortured and abused in detention in saudi arabia but without the leverage of a powerful country like the us little is likely to change and without u.s. support it will be difficult for turkey to get answers from saudi arabia about who really ordered the killing of jamal khashoggi turkey's position actually still weak to get an answer or let's say a conclusive answer from the saudi arabia say because most probably. united states the european union. that there will not push this problem in a further to turkey this is not just a political economic issue it's also a criminal one a murder has been committed and they want to investigate it and solve it but they say that investigation is being hampered by a lack of saudi cooperation. the turks are demanding details about the day mr kosofsky was murdered they have asked the saudis who if not the crown prince gave

the order they want the men accused tried in a turkish court and they want to know where mr remains are but turkey can't force this alone it has to be an in international investigation under the powers of the un secretary-general. so it has to be an investigation where there is an experienced investigative team with the power to go anywhere they need to go to interview witnesses to interview suspects. only in nice circumstances i think genuine justice be impossible because this murder has gone from the realms of a tragic hollywood movie script to a political chess game it may be that with the help of donald trump saudi arabia has the advantage tony berkeley al-jazeera istanbul. speak to another of our correspondents in istanbul mohamed how will turkey mohamed respond to the saudi foreign minister's calls that it comes forward with all the evidence it has in the

shoji matter. it's folly so far we don't have an official reaction to the statements by a saudi foreign minister added to where but we're expecting some of that to be announced to during the president is expected very shortly between the turkish foreign minister and the top diplomat of the european union and kyra if questions about that are asked by the press also here turkey it's been the discussion and the debate has been going on intensifying particularly since the statements by u.s. president donald trump but he will continue to deal with saudi arabia and continue to support crown prince mohammed bin segment people here are looking for looking at some or all of the of this at the just decide the war here is seen to be between justice mortality on the one hand and state interest on the other we have seen a column by a columnist here in the newspaper today talking about this in detail mentioning

also that the cia has been prevented from publishing so far from publishing all very marks and all the facts that they have included in that report including some reports earlier before the murder of. but there was a conversation a phone conversation between countries who had been said man and these black hearted who is boss of the to the u.s. about the need to silence. because of his because of his opposition to the policies of saudi arabia so that this journalist is asking for the whole cia report to be made public in order to give the whole truth to the world so that the whole world knows what happened and who is responsible for the order to kill. we have seen here two levels of policies of two levels of discussion one is on the part of the government the government trying to find alternatives to the u.s. because they have capitalized on the u.s. support in this case because they have built this they think they have built

a strong case for several weeks and presented it to the world. you clued in of of course the united states now that the u.s. in their view has let them down in this effort for the truth by looking for alternatives talking to the op is this president and the meetings that they have been discussions and meetings with europe is we have seen no sign of that some of the results of that. denmark stopping the exploitation of arms to saudi arabia alongside of germany so there is hope that you know turkey could continue to put pressure and continue to campaign across the world for justice for them out thank you for mahmoud van life for us in istanbul and as mohammed mentioned we are expecting a press conference a news conference very shortly with the theory kamal gary the e.u. foreign policy chief who is being hosted by turkey's foreign minister. met in ankara turkey and the european union holding their first high level talks in nearly

two years to discuss the session of turkey into the european union and also possibly the investigation we'll bring that news conference to you live when it happens here on al-jazeera let's move on to the war in yemen now and u.s. defense secretary james mattis as the saudi u.a.e. coalition has posits offensive around the port city of data despite reports of continued fighting on the ground the u.n. special envoy to yemen is expected to travel to the city the port is crucial for food and a surprise on wednesday martin griffin met with the rebel leaders in the capital sana'a mama drama is monitoring the situation in yemen from nearby djibouti despite the diplomatic push and calls for a cease fire in yemen the guns gone silent. the people of the day there say they have been clashes overnight in the city with a million fighters a pro-government group saying that their positions will foster fired on by the who

the fight is now though the fighters have said they will stop grown on missile attacks against the sodium routed lucian on the allies on the ground but have said they will continue to defend their positions and that is one of the reasons why we are seeing continued collages in the crucial port city of the day the some of these fighting is happening very close to the port which is crucial to the lives of millions of yemenis who need aid now the u.n. special envoy martin cliff is leading the biggest diplomatic push in two years for a negotiated settlement to the conflict in the yemen and he's expected to arrive later in the day together with the u.n. humanitarian coordinator for yemen lisa ground and they are going to be looking at how to get both sides only to commit to a cease fire but also to peace talks aimed for.