to the contours of the east. we've got a really messy picture in our weather across europe at the moment so clad still swirling away across italy in the balkans same sim a very very heavy rain recently violent winds as well some flooding and ahead of this system here we go the warm and moist air coming in from the med it's raining but we get to some very cold air so that's leading to some snow anywhere from western russia ukraine right across into the alpine reaches more heavy downpours coming back a beehive you know the warmth there for athens to twenty degrees celsius but most of europe is a single figure seven's a nice there for london then the next weather system will pile its way in from the atlantic satanic pretty wet and windy across the british isles as we go on through the next couple of days the wet and windy and at times winter weather will continue across central and eastern parts still pretty disturbed then down towards greece and what's the weather will say spilling its way in here across the other side of

the mediterranean some of that disturbed weather inevitably affecting the fall north of africa northern parts of libya pushing up towards egypt and of course we are still seeing bits and pieces of cloud of rain just lingering around the far north of algeria and also into morocco but brightening up gradually as we go into cheese day the weather sponsored by qatar and nice. the lights are on. and there's nowhere to hide isn't the easiest way to solve this town allow u.n. observers who you invited into the country earlier this year to finish the job i haven't said it's a right wing conspiracy or anybody's conspiracy straight talking debate do you think we're going to see some kind of scene change in the u.s. relationship with saudi arabia we have an obligation there is that journalistic integrity and then in this case it was betrayed totally upfront own al-jazeera.

you're watching al jazeera live from doha a reminder of our top stories the u.n. security council has called an emergency meeting over what ukraine is calling an act of aggression by the russian navy off the coast of crimea ukrainian sailors were injured in others taken prisoner when russian vessels opened fire on three ukrainian navy tugs in the black sea in somalia at qom bomb explosion and gun attack has killed a cleric and ten of his followers fighters are claiming responsibility for the attack at a religious center in the city of cairo and mexico says it's stepping up security at the border with the united states after hundreds of asylum seekers rushed one of the last things on sunday u.s.

border agents responded by firing tear gas to some of the migrants involved will be deported. now the biggest game in south american football has been postponed for a second time the copen the better doris cup final between boca juniors and river plate was initially called off after one of the team's buses was attacked trying to has a story from. the security right controlling the situation that the previous day had spiraled out of control. the bulk of junior's team bus attacked and players injured running battles between police and fans and violence inside the stadium the south american football thora bowl said the much would go ahead and three hours before the scheduled kickoff they said it wouldn't and the stands for the second time in two days streamed out. i'm annoyed because we came to enjoy

a party we were ready river were ready to play and because of a police failure to protect one bus seventy thousand fans are left with this twice i'm angry for those that came here from other countries other cities around argentina the river supporters who have had to return home because they can't spend another night here and have to go back to work. said their players after their boss was attacked were in no fit state to play either physically or psychologically and the prestigious. should be awarded to them let i mean we were clearly outages advantage yesterday and we ought to sporting disadvantage today and i believe the best for a bookcase to not play because we do not have the same conditions as a roofer. meet at the headquarters in the paraguayan capital on tuesday to decide where when and possibly if the game is to be replayed the copa libertadores final is still not over neither is the political fallout from saturday's violence

with questions still being asked of the security forces river plate football club the south american football authorities and the wider arts and sciences. the phrase it's only football has never really resonated least of all now. what went wrong and who is to blame is still to be decided to name all the fans as they so often all have been left indignant angry and confused. by argentina yet again is faced with a dilemma how to tackle it's a violent. one osiris. a court in south africa is hearing a legal challenge by a civil rights organization that wants to prevent the constitution from being changed it would allow the land to be explored prieta without compensation that speak to. who is in cape town for is where the hearing is taking place today so what are we expecting family that to come out of this court process today.

overall it just to take you back a little bit those court challenges a route to revolve around a review committee within parliament that would starts with investigating whether or not the constitution should be changed to allow for land explode creation without compensation now that committee drafted a report that would then go to parliament and that report recommends that the constitution should be changed to allow for this move affray forum the civil rights organization is saying that proper procedure wasn't followed and based on that that report should go back to the committee but essentially this is an organization that is opposed to this move by government that land to be expropriated without compensation as part of a land reform program also africa of course has embarked on a land reform program for more than twenty years when it's wanted to redistribute land a lot of land in the hands of white south africans redistribute that across the country

so that the black population is economic you powered in this rather of more a fear of allocation of land across the country this court challenge wants to according to parliament first straight to that process of land explode creation or rather frustrate the process of changing the constitution specifically so if that does happen today with the court rules in the favor of effort forms civically we could see that report going back to the real review committee and having to relook at the recommendations all the submissions that have come from interested parties or wise is still a contested issue or a disputed issue this far into the process of amending the constitution to expropriate land without compensation. well land reform is continues to be a contentious issue for south africans given just how little land is in the hands of black south africans since one thousand nine hundred four only twenty one percent of agricultural land has been redistribution redistributed rather to black

ownership but the issue around expropriation specifically is just what it could mean for the economy what it could mean a for jobs in south africa and also food production those against it say that this would of course impact the country negatively investors would be scared off if they wouldn't know if south africa was a stable a safe place to invest in if land could be taken away at any time and without the owners of that length being paid for it while those on the other end of the spectrum saying that so many south africans have been disenfranchised they have no land of their own to contribution to the economy you know so we do have south africans across the border and once or other side of this debate and we have seen presidents a remote force are in a difficult position talking to people like talking to the european union talking to the business community saying that land reform won't be done in a haphazard manner that this will be controlled and there will be land grabs but

the same time having to placate voters having to placate south africans who want and being stupid action and wanted to be included in the economy thank you for that from a dominican life or a seine cape town. crown prince is in bahrain as part of his first foreign tour since the murder of journalists shoji mom had been salman held talks with king hamad bin isa sunday he'll be in egypt on monday for a meeting with president abdel fatah sisi and on tuesday he is expected in tunisia but activists there are trying to mount a legal challenge to stop the visit journalists have been demonstrating with photos of the crown prince holding a chainsaw. now breaking news out of the united arab emirates and a british academic who had been sentenced to life in prison for spying in the u.a.e. has been pardoned my few pages pardon is said to be part of the u.s. national day clemency this is according to the presidential to the government there

and the pardon was issued without immediate effect for hedges and he will leave the u.a.e. when procedures are completed so again the u.s. government has decided to pardon british academic matthew hedges who was sentenced to life in prison earlier this week in the u.a.e. for spying. moving on and commemoration ceremonies have been held in india's financial capital mumbai on the tenth anniversary of the mumbai terrorist attacks one hundred sixty six people were killed in three days of gun battles and explosions ten gunmen from pakistan based group. attacked hospitals hotels public and a jewish center on sunday the united states offered a new five million dollar reward for the capture of those responsible of ordering via toc. in southern new zealand not one hundred forty five whales have

died from being stranded on a remote beach a hiker discovered the pilot whales on stewart island seventy five well ready dead the others were put down by vets because of their poor health. now the world's oceans are immense covering seventy seventy percent of our planet's they give us half the oxygen we breathe absorb a third of the carbon dioxide we pump out and livelihoods for more than three billion people or the world wildlife fund estimates a value of key ocean assets to be at least twenty five trillion dollars where the annual variety of goods and services generated from oceans at around three to six trillion dollars that's projected to skyrocket in coming years with analysts forecasting the annual value to double by twenty thirty and go some way to explain why more than four thousand people are meeting in nairobi kenya right now to look at how to harness the oceans resources and grow was described as the blue economy

but exploitation comes at a price the u.n. says what marine life hasn't already been purchased is living in increasingly inhospitable conditions ocean temperatures are rising excessive carbon dioxide is making oceans highly acidic and the water of the world offer a tantalizing economic opportunities but experts warn it can't be business as usual let's go live to our conference or who's at that conference in nairobi just how important is this meeting today in nairobi catherine and what are they hoping to achieve. quite important. time. happening and you just need the number of people that you mentioned more than four thousand that you get several heads of state the homefront have you got it right that you are with seventy eight is right now on the board you have a talking about the time. on harnessing it is economy

doing it could be stems around but you want to go out and joining me to discuss. is with the un agency for human settlement. oh apologies for that we lost our audio connection to catherine sorry there well hopefully re-establish it and bring the latest to you from the conference in nairobi kenya live here on our air throughout the day now it's a very close at the demick in papua new guinea is getting worse for infrastructure is only adding to the problem so far health workers have only been able to get to a fraction of those affected andrew thomas reports from the capital for more severe . tuberculosis in papua new guinea isn't just an issue it's an epidemic more than one in two hundred fifty people on the killer disease the real

proportion is believed to be much higher. carry dusty fell ill two years ago but living in a remote area accessible only by boat it was folly months before she was diagnosed after she was she had trouble after taking the pills she was prescribed. i faithfully took my medications however my body wasn't reacting well to it i started to experience some kind of a lunatic reaction and side effects dusty is perseverance but in rural papua new guinea that's unusual to treat tuberculosis patients need to take an elaborate and unpleasant cocktail of drugs regularly for months a lot of clinics and transport to those clinics makes getting those medicines to people or people to them it's hard when the base appointment when did on their review dates. i go out into the villages and i meet them and i ask them why you mean health workers reach only

a fraction of those infected and when people let their treatments lapse the disease has a resurgence and becomes more tolerant to drugs once it's more into what's called multi-drug resistant tuberculosis the disease is much harder and more expensive to treat hall of all patients die organizations like doctors without borders are trying to help but there's not enough central coordination the frustration that many have here is that papua new guinea's government is no three is that it has a big problem and that it's getting worse and yet despite having the money the government hasn't been spending it in the right way and hasn't made typing tuberculosis enough of a political priority earlier this month papua new guinea hosted the asia pacific economic cooperation summit for world leaders to discuss economic growth but critics questioned whether a country in the grip of a health crisis she's spending hundreds of millions of dollars on a conference government except it must do better whilst things like funding for

medicines has been quite a quite a large number it's the. it's the execution of the health services at the front in that is suffering and our government regulations are coming a stranger a is trying to emphasise that some of the funding streams in a budgetary process are essential for delivery of those services you can't sacrifice some of those. when you're rushing financing few around here have ever been to their country's capital but it is a in port moresby that the political impetus is needed to stop what's already an epidemic from becoming a health emergency after thomas algis there are more speak up when you get a. president president elect giant also narrow is revamping his country's foreign policy that includes cutting relations with cuba and limiting trade datings with china. the seaman reports. the cuban doctors who worked at this primary health

center on the outskirts of brasilia are gone more than it has begun recalling more than eight thousand doctors who work in poor and remote areas throughout brazil after president elect not all described them as slaves of a communist regime documenting that our community was used to having cuban doctors now we don't know if anyone is going to replace them on. the confrontation with cuba it's just the first step of a major shake up ahead in brazilian foreign policy. the president elect's promise to follow donald trump's footsteps by relocating brazil's embassy in israel to jerusalem has outraged muslim nations in such ways they're trying to emulate they struck to use in the narrative that donald trump the in terms of the u.s. the main difference is the fact that brazil is not u.s. we don't have the same power of the u.s. . indeed brazil sells at least five billion dollars of beef to egypt to the middle

east and gulf nations produces fear they could retaliate if the move goes ahead. well sonata has added fuel to the fire by saying palestine isn't a country and therefore shouldn't have an embassy here breaking with longstanding support for a two state solution to the palestinian israeli conflict but. brazil has always behaved as an intermediate or a not a participant in the conflict we hope it remains that way for brazil sick for its long standing prestigious as a nation that respects international law. also noddle has been nicknamed the tropical donald trump is shifting from multilateralism to a strong alignment with washington this is brazil's foreign ministry its new boss will be a mid-level diplomats with no experience as embassador but whose main characteristic is his staunch support for the us president and like and president trump the new

foreign minister questions the existence of climate change which he in fact describes as marxist dogma. also not only not be going as far as donald trump who has withdrawn from the paris agreement but north and south america's two largest countries looks set to join forces to push a conservative foreign policy agenda throughout the globe see in yemen al jazeera but. again i'm fully back to go with the headlines on al-jazeera some breaking news out of the united arab emirates this hour way british academic who had been sentenced to life in prison for spying has been pardoned the decision coincides with the u.s. national day matthew had can now leave the u.a.e. once a procedure is completed british foreign secretary jeremy hunt has welcomed the news of his pod and. the un security council has called an emergency meeting over

a confrontation between the russian and ukrainian navy's off the coast. crimea several ukrainian sailors were injured in others taken prisoner when russian vessel to open fire on three ukrainian ukrainian navy tugs russia also brought the courage straits the shipping channel used to surprise the ukrainian industrial city of mariupol but that's not been reopened russian troops. from ukraine four years ago. in somalia a car bomb explosion and gun attack has killed a cleric and ten of his followers al shabaab fighters have claimed responsibility for the attack at a religious center in the city of. mexico has promised to step up security at border crossings with the united states after hundreds of asylum seekers tried to cross into the united states on sunday mexican police say the group violently any legally rushed the border u.s. more agents responded by firing tear gas mexico says it will deport the asylum

seekers involved in the attempted crossing and sanji arabia's crown prince is in bahrain as part of his first foreign tour since the murder of journalist. he'll be in egypt on monday for a meeting with president abdel fatah and on tuesdays expected in tunisia but activists there are hoping to stop the visit upfront is up next when on line when you're looking at wildlife and how the solutions come together to benefit all parties involved that's where we're going to be a long time or if you join us on sat if you could take me around the continent where we can take me you don't have to set up your experiment for your experiment in the universe this is a dialogue everyone has a voice you actually read several interesting point here that several of our community members are going to join the global conversation on al-jazeera what happened to all the soul as a threat disappeared have they been defeated or we kidding ourselves and outfront special.

despite the horrific attack in kabul this week studies show that twenty seventeen was the third consecutive year when the number of terrorist attacks around the world went down and the number of attacks in the west claimed by eisel has gone down by around eighty percent this year so what does this all mean. joining me on this special edition of outfront to discuss the possed present and the future of ice will be a boom professor at georgia state university and author of dying to kill of suicide terror joe miller professor of political science at ohio state university and author of overblown how the politicians and terrorism industry inflate national security threats and why we believe them from london middle east and north africa a research fellow at chatham house and from leone nicholas and on

a journalist i saw hostage all three of jihad academy the rise of islamic state thank you all for joining me from mia let me start with you are wrong in saying that despite a few really bad attacks like the one in november in melbourne australia the threat that poses at least to the west seems to have gone down the media we don't talk about it as often politicians are talking about the threat from the attacks seem to have gone down compared to europe to go is that fair it depends on what you're calling the west if you're calling north america the west and absolutely the number of attacks have gone down the statistics for twenty seven thousand was that there were sixty five terrorist attacks or terrorist events in the united states last year more than fifty percent were extreme right wing but if you're looking at other places if you're looking at western europe or you're looking at the rest of the world we are largely ignored in places like nigeria where the attacks have actually gone up or places like southeast asia where in indonesia or the philippines we really have to be concerned so it's

a combination of being concerned about the returning foreign fighters to europe but also the fact that there is a bit of a whack a mole that a lot of ice is propaganda and activity has moved from the west from the middle east or at least iraq and syria to other parts because about it according to one recent study in twenty seventeen global terror attacks fell by a fifth and fatalities from those attacks followed by a quarter that's a good news story isn't it. what is this jewish an in twenty thirty and twenty fourteen was absolutely dramatic we had. people coming from our own countries and leaving our countries and joining. this terrorist group and in an incredible wave of departures that we never witnessed in the recent history so no for

sure it is very relaxing at least to seize at these flu volunteers for jihad as basically almost stops for at least europe this is a very good news this is the other thing that we need to look at is actually the mind and the fact that the act to vittie of the group has barely decrees dissipates a loss of territory ok. you of course remain entire book saying the entire idea of terrorism threats in the terrorism quote unquote industry is overblown so what do you make of eisel right now well it seems to be very much in the klein if you look at the american cases where they actually arrested people for trying to do the islamic terrorism in the united states they're about a dozen over a dozen each in its previous three years and this year there's been one and when you look at the actual cases many people are mentally disturbed completely out of

work. and they're not they're not. they're basically people are sort of inspired. for a while there was sort of the jihad school phrase together so these many of these techs are simply not serious if they hadn't been interrupted or anything they have a question do you agree now based on the numbers and even me as conceding in the u.s. north america taxes down but even with a tax or high quote unquote you know everything's relative when they were higher than they were now in twenty fifteen twenty sixty in. even then you one of those voices saying let's not dissolve you know the rove and the citizens as far as i'm concerned is looking at all the years since nine eleven the number of people have been killed by islamic extremists in the united states is about six per year it isn't much different in most of europe and much much of the western world including australia and so forth that's six too many that we don't prefer there to be zero but you know incredibly small number of people i want to talk to somebody at the national institutes of health and i said suppose you had

a disease that killed six people a year how much money would you spend trying to eradicate it he looked back at me like i was crazy i mean there's and you know so much more that you know you've got a limited amount of funds and spinning out of his or that small hole of religion out of service waiting patiently in love but before i do me a judas will briefly respond to john's point about madness of the spending on that compared to the number of deaths at least in the well i'm going to agree with the madness of the spending so that's the point that i agree but at the same time i would say that we have to look at the way in which it's inspiring the fact and to add to what nicholas said this jihad this ice is attracted more foreign fighters than afghanistan bosnia and chechnya and the previous war in iraq put together so we did have this ideational of fact that i don't want to discount but john it were going to come out as a very nice segue into red up and so who's in london based in the u.k. when i but you regularly travel to work on the ground in iraq where a lot of these quote unquote foreign fighters came into is it fair to say that

which is lost i believe ninety nine percent of its territory now in iraq and syria territory that one point was almost the size of portugal is it fair to say that they've been defeated on the ground in iraq militarily they've been defeated is that fair. the network that existed since the late one nine hundred ninety s. going on through to the two thousand continues to exist of course they go through phases where they take more territory and lose territory but the issue here and a kind of draws on the conversation that we're having many people look at i saw as the disease itself but actually i saw is the symptom right and so the problem we have in iraq and syria is actually a bigger problem which is the failure of these governments the failure of these states that allow for groups like isis to emerge and it's also important to i think unpack the difference between the global jihad and the sort of local version of i so so the global jihad is version which really sprung up in two thousand and eleven after sort of what happened in syria but became part of the whole organization

that's kind of calmed down but there are still local grievances and many local minded iraqis and syrians who are entertaining the ideas of groups like this because of more socio economic reasons not necessarily the idea of isis that's which is something that's come up already today so just to be clear though in terms of the territory that you're saying yes they've been pushed out of cities they've been pushed out of mosul they don't control ground so they're quote unquote caliphate but they're still there is a force in terms of networks in terms of ideas in terms of the a little too young disillusioned people i mean you know this is a very dynamic organization i mean it's gone through different i mean it's not it's not the first time that i saw has lost territories of the network if you look at it a bit longer term in two thousand and eight nine and ten of that also last territory and it makes an assumption that it will come back at some point given the fact that everyone keeps focusing on the military solution and on rather than the actual problem that allows it to emerge and i've already outlined those but nonetheless at the moment it has still has quite

a bit of cash that it's made over the last few years it's still able to kind of reach out in parts of iraq particularly in some provinces like dean it's emerging the first attacks and most of the fuel. so it's emerging so it's not the kind of say to scare that it's back to the two thousand and fourteen fifteen levels when nonetheless it's important to note that it's not. nicholas let me ask you this you of course were a hostage held. in the region you wrote very lucidly off do you came back about the people who would hold you hostage and i think you said you know they watch the same t.v. shows as the same called tunes or does a lot of people say well hold on come on these guys are religious fanatics what do you say to them having spent time with them against your will and that they're very humane and some people it could just crazy to try to give you a picture. of terrorists who are like is the is the ark image of the evolved to give them the picture of being in maine you know what is your main

weakness is and this is what we should walk on much more you you mention the point about six people to the north american obviously you're an american political scientist you're looking at what the american government is doing at home and abroad but when you listen to renard talk about what's happening in iraq and when you look at for example recent u.n. report found musgrave's from some of the isis controlled areas that were taken back they may have actually killed even more people than we thought when you see when you see what's happening in the middle east and north africa do you worry that your thesis about the threat being overblown is too american centric yes. in a lot of ways it doesn't really present a threat to the united states or to western europe is far as i can see it's basically. a massive threat in some of the countries well it's not a massive that is it's a minor threat it seems to me you know you can have you know small groups. still

causes problems in somalia they're going to be people roaming around the middle east screaming that there are members of isis because it's what one does who are probably in create trouble but it's not it i don't think is even a major problem there overall. certainly far far worse than it was earlier when they control these and when they're able to actually do these massacres that you talked about i'm going to disagree with that ok coming in that are going to get out so the reason i disagree is a lot of the foreign fighters that have left iraq and syria have gone to places like libya they've gone to southeast asia they've gone to pakistan and afghanistan and so the idea that these are not actual threats to the governments i disagree having spent time in pakistan having traveled through these areas talking to people who are former members of terrorist organizations this is an actual threat to some governments but he's right not to the american government you you used the phrase earlier of what's called mole hill not part of the problem that if you've got this organization that can just pop up because it's an ideology as much as it is a physical group in different parts of the world when you when you bomb them here

they go somewhere else where does that leave the overall strategy well it definitely resonates when the local government is corrupt and when people are feeling aggrieved then it starts to have all of these global politics be very locally relevant and that's where it becomes problematic so that the isis fighters go in but they link up with local groups who have local grievances and many of these governments are very imperfect and this is where it resonates and they become very popular with the rank and file were not a joiner suggesting that even in the middle east the threat could be seen as overblown in parts that they're not a threat to a lot of governments is that you will view. i think very clearly isis you know the organization has had a massive threat than a massive massive consequences on the populations in syria and iraq particularly but elsewhere in the middle east i mean having spent time over the years in iraq it's been devastating and it's been a very dire.