and the international community must understand what ukraine is doing we would urge our partners in the security council not to shoulder responsibility for the dangerous conduct of the ukrainian authorities while the current strait may be common now the combination of ukrainian anger and tension hasn't. andrew symonds al-jazeera. well the russian foreign minister has said ukraine violated international law by sending its naval vessels through the strait without any permission he says the crisis is a move by the president for pushing co to shore up his declining popularity and bring more sanctions against moscow. it may be that while ukraine was planning the provocation and no one has any doubt this was done with the goodwill and probably a direct order from the highest leaderships they were counting on additional benefits they wanted to get out of this situation first of all they were counting on the fact that the u.s. and europe as always recklessly take the side of the provocative words. to moscow

and our correspondent rory challenge how much of a boost is the situation for president poroshenko. well the important has got two things that he was seeking he was seeking his martial law and he was also seeking to get condemnation of russia in the u.n. security council and a show of support from the united states but i think there would be concerns as well that on both of these fronts he didn't quite get the full extent of what he was working towards so on is martial law the parliamentarians who are voting in the rod basically chopped it down from sixty days to thirty days and they made sure that this was not a nationwide imposition of martial law it only affected kind of front here parts of the country bits of the country that are either facing russian troops or the sea or

you know other breakaway bits of other countries so. i think there are there are parts of the ukrainian body politic which saw what it was trying to do as a political overreach as essentially a power grab in the run up to the presidential elections next year and also on the international front i think poroshenko will be slightly concerns that donald trump doesn't seem particularly interested in this issue when he was asked about it i think yesterday he said well we don't like what's happening either way we don't lie what's happening i hope it will get straightened out i know europe isn't thrills they're working on it we're working on it together yes there were comments in the in the security council but donald trump the man in charge of the united states isn't too exercised about any of this the most being said by the kremlin crucially as well by president putin. well

putin has said that martial law in ukraine is not a positive thing probably has to say that he will say that this is not good for the for the minsk peace accords which are trying to bring the her fighting to an end in eastern ukraine but i think for russia this whole endeavor is basically another reminder that they don't actually have that many friends in the international community and that their aggressive and muscular actions in foreign wars is in other countries are not winning it any extra support but probably internally they'll think that they've made their points against ukraine that this. curch straits since the annexation of crimea russia has called this one of their maritime borders it demands permission from ukraine to pass through the straits to access the as all sea which

by treaty between russia and ukraine ukraine does have every rights to use. and also there is of course this issue of the you know the sailors that russia now has in its. detention essentially that is another point of pressure against the ukrainian government rorik thank you the u.s. president's former campaign chief pullman afford has been accused of breaching a plea bargain with federal prosecutors special counsel robert muller as investigation into alleged russian meddling in the twenty sixteen elections as many lives to f.b.i. offices was expected to receive a lights a punishment for cooperating with the investigation and for faces at least a decade in prison on ten charges ranging from financial fraud to conspiracy to obstruct the course of justice. still to come here on al-jazeera also facing tear gas and resistance some of the american asylum seekers rethink their quest to reach

the united states. get a welcome back to your international weather forecast well here across europe it has been quite messy around much of the region but down here towards the south that's what we're going to be watching over the next day across parts of the central med the rain has been quite heavy across parts of italy greece as well as all bay and that is going to continue as we go towards tuesday as we go towards wednesday a lot of that rain is going to start making its way towards the northeast meaning of the cooler air and that is where we're going to start to see some snow particularly the higher elevations temperatures in the north still quite cold we are talking kiev only seeing a high few of minus three degrees now here to the west attempt as a coming up but we are going to be seeing another system coming out of the atlantic and that is going to bring some very windy conditions particular over here towards

ireland in ireland northern ireland here on wednesday as we go towards thursday it is going to be the u.k. that sees a lot more of that wind and also the rain in the forecast well here across much of the northern part of africa we are seeing some rain showers anywhere from algeria over towards tunisia all dealing with that same system in the central mediterranean now as we go towards wednesday that system is going to shift a little bit more towards the southeast as well bring some rain towards tripoli also some clouds over here towards parts of libya and egypt benghazi it is going to be a rainy cloudy day for you we do think attempt to there of one thousand degrees. on line when you're looking at wildlife. come together to benefit all parties that's where we're going to have long term or if you join us on sand if you could take me around the content why would you tell me you don't have to set up your experiment for your experiment in the universe this is a dialogue everyone has

a voice you actually raise several interesting point there that some of our community members are going to join the global conversation. welcome back here with al-jazeera these are your headlines so far saudi arabia's crown prince is facing legal challenges and protests as he continues his first tour overseas since the murder of the saudi journalist jamal khashoggi activist in tunisia asking the court there to stop the visit rights watch investigated over the deaths and the war in yemen. the parliament in ukraine has approved thirty days of

martial law in response to russia opening fire on its navy the military will take over daily functions from one state and ten regions which border russia or are on the coast. and the us president from former campaign she has been accused of breaching a plea bargain with federal prosecutors the investigation into alleged russian meddling in the twenty sixteen election says poor man a forty. investigates. thousands of jobs are set to go in the biggest restructuring by the u.s. car maker general motors since the financial crash of two thousand and eight the planned closure of five manufacturing hubs and north america is a blow to the u.s. president on trump whose promise to turnaround the industry g.m. says the layoffs will allow it to focus on electric and self drive cars is shihab rattansi. estimates for the number of jobs lost as general motors restructures are as high as fourteen thousand seven hundred some eight thousand white collar the

remains of factory workers the plants affected are in michigan ohio and maryland in the u.s. and on teria in canada production also you see said to as yet unnamed plants outside north america by the end of twenty nineteen in lordstown ohio workers despaired not just for those being laid off but for the whole community for every one of our jobs they you know i've heard around seven jobs on the outside are. obviously impacted so you know not only not only the folks that are working in. the part supplying sector but look at the grocery stores right look at the restaurants the doctors' offices the hospitals g.m. says the layoffs on necessary to adapt to a changing u.s. kamarck it sales of sit downs are down as sales of s.u.v.s and trucks grow the company also says it will focus more on autonomous and electric vehicles it's been ten years since general motors was bailed out with taxpayer money a fact not lost on the united auto workers union which is about that the decision

will not go unchallenged g.m. has production decisions in light of employee concessions during the economic downturn and a taxpayer bailout from bankruptcy it said put profits before the working families of this country whose personal sacrifices stood with g.m. during those dog days that these decisions are a slap in the face to the memory and recall of that historical american made bailout we must step away from the empty work of thinking of seeking simply the lowest labor cost on the planet g.m. exceeded expectations with better than expected third quarter earnings of two point five billion dollars boosting shareholder value and monday's announcement led to a further rise in its share price g.m. says it will save six billion dollars in cash as a result of the restructuring this is a blow to don't trump he said his corporate tax cuts would help save the u.s. as manufacturing industry the president has repeatedly boasted about his role in g.m.'s future job creation and on monday he said he remains hopeful i'm not happy about it that car is not selling well so they'll put something else i have no doubt

that it is not just that but something else they'd better but something else as a result of trump's economic policies the trade deficit is going to. nearly double over the next five years it's going to cost millions of manufacturing jobs two of the plants affected are in swing states that ricky trump's victory in twenty sixteen the president's pitch to the american workers who voted for him is fraying she every time see outers or a british ph d. academic jailed for spying in the united arab emirates is reportedly returned home to the u.k. the reuters news agency says matthew hedges landed in london on a flight from dubai he was granted a pardon on monday after being sentenced to life in prison last week. some central american asylum seekers have decided to return home after being repelled at the u.s. border by barbed wire and. while some are giving up on their dreams others are just arriving further stretching resources makeshift camps john holeman has that story

from. after protests on sunday that breached the u.s. border fence almost one hundred central americans with the pool to it from mexico but the disturbances also spoke to russian others in the caravan who decided to go to. government trucks with those who'd had enough alex was among those waiting for the next ride home you know. if we jumped the war they sailed up kick us out they don't want us here things would get dangerous after everything that happened yesterday so we decided to go home but. for many sundays tear gas and police lines were reality check they know now just how hard it's going to be to get across and how much this u.s. administration wants to stop the few are equipped to wait for that loot change winter's coming but most have tents at best in this makeshift camp in. the cemetery conditions of rudimentary worsening local authorities worried about the threat of

disease. when we offered this temporary shelter it was kind of three thousand five hundred people maximum and now we have more than five and a half thousand people and obviously deaths generating a risk of inflictions we could have problems with sickness and also with security. they can't wait for the caravan to go along with many others who want the sun to see through a border crossing point is the busiest in the western hemisphere but the us authorities have already shut it down a couple of times since the caravan arrived and locals worry that if i keep happening it's going to really hit the economy here. but even if some members of the caravan leave to others. it's just getting here the new arrivals have to sleep outside on the pavement the camps now completely full but you know it was cold and really uncomfortable for the children especially with the jeep get wes in the morning it's enough to make anyone give up but many of these people are fleeing

from it poverty or violence they still aren't ready to go back home and how does it . the future of afghanistan will be debated over the next two days at an international conference in geneva led by the afghan president asked for afghani un the u.s. and international partners will discuss how they can help bring stability to the country as peace talks with the taliban move forward mashallah ballasts. as president ashraf ghani and chief executive of dillard dilla deposit kabul for geneva they lift behind this violent protests across the west of the city over the wrist of a local shia commander the disparate to prove they are in control and in geneva they will lay down what they have achieved with international money what afghanistan has to show the billions spent on security and i have a seventeen years the sad news is that the afghan government will not have a stellar achievement the prison to do that and that's the thing we did on when

sitting getting afghanistan i'm sure that could be a very difficult time for the afghan government to show a tangible outcome for the law for the past two years. well not tangible there is optimism around the prospect of peace talks between the taliban and the us became public six months ago and have gained momentum in recent weeks. foreign troops in your country what will be your demand of course going to be to go out and you. live in a free country that's starting to manage to need to go on a u.s. special envoy to afghanistan was announced in september to broker a deal though michael ailes that met with all parties earlier this month were in very strong negotiations in afghanistan right now which a lot of people don't know about this may be the first but we are in very very strong negotiation in afghanistan we'll see what happens if something happens that

would be a great thing. president danny has largely been sidelined the taliban says they will only talk with the government after reaching an. freeman with the u.s. how on modern afghanistan how come the holocene get all the afghans even militant groups are tired of fighting it is clear that these gatherings are pushing towards peace all afghans are supportive of this conference it will be better for the future of one side and i hope so it would be. better for the peace start with taliban is. far away from the streets of kabul in geneva they will take stock of this reality they will debate how to give afghans a base a life they will talk about peace and solidarity accountability and commitment words that mean this will hear that they carry on aware it's a moment to miss and dallas. of a spacecraft designed to study the in the depths of mars so successfully touched on the red planet scientists are hoping insight will help shed light on the planet was

formed billions of years ago with more. in fact should now be experiencing the peak heating rate after ten years of dreaming designing and testing my heart was basically i just think to stop beating for seven minutes i don't know if that's healthy or not but. but then when we got the indication of parachute deployment which was absolutely terrifying thing to think about we got that positive and then listening to christine still a call out as we got closer and closer to the surface every time she made a call out you know the hairs on the back of my neck would start rising a little bit higher a little bit higher touchdown for the mars insight lander on monday as suggested by the center mation touchdown compare. that insight first photo from its new home the elysium planet sia using a two meter robotic arm a seismometer and other instruments in sight will dig

a hole five meters deep so it can record so-called mars quakes and calculate just how hot the red planet's inner layers get they want to understand why mars which once may have been habitable by life is no longer wonderful nasa scientists say this data will help them understand more about mars origins and perhaps about the earth's as well and boost u.s. efforts to get humans on mars by the twenty thirty s when we can actually begin to estimate you know which ones might be happy to pull and which ones maybe not habitable based on some of the geophysical understanding that will get just by looking at mars. just for the purpose of if sending insight to mars was the hard part one nasa scientist says it's only going to get harder but that first photo will be a big help everyone gathered around the very front and was immediately deciding where to replace instruments and this is a great indication we were all certain that that first image would help us

determine how difficult of a job we would have in placing the instruments and i'm very happy. that it looks like we'll be able to add to it quite easily we hope the payoff is already coming in a second photo taken by one of two many communication satellites that flew within sight . this and the prospect of future discoveries have these scientists celebrating before they get back to work. al-jazeera washington. this is al-jazeera these are your headlines saudi arabia's crown prince is facing legal challenges and protests as he continues his first tour overseas since the murder of the journalist. human rights watch has filed a legal complaint in argentina or activists in tunisia are asking the courts to stop him entering the country meanwhile u.s. media reporting that donald trump's son in law pushed department of defense

officials to inflates the value of arms deals with saudi arabia to increase their perceived importance a.b.c. news successfully had a fifteen billion dollars deal recategorized as being worth one hundred ten billion dollars after a presidential visit in may of twenty seventeen that order has not yet been fulfilled. ukraine's parliament has approved thirty days of martial war in response to russia opening fire on its navy the military will take over daily functions from weapons stay in ten regions which border russia or they're on the coast. the u.s. president's former campaign chief has been accused of breaching a plea bargain with federal prosecutors the investigation into alleged russian meddling in the twenty sixteen election says paul manifold lied to f.b.i. officials need expected to receive a light's a punishment for cooperating with the investigation and a fourth faces at least a decade in prison on ten charges ranging from financial fraud to conspiracy to obstruct justice. a british ph d. academic jailed for spying in the u.a.e.

has reportedly returned home to the u.k. the reuters news agency says matthew hedges landed in london on a flight from dubai he was granted a pardon on monday after being sentenced to life in prison last week you are right up to speed with all the top stories up next it's inside story about the lights are on. but there's nowhere to hide do you think we're going to see some kind of scene change in the u.s. relationship with saudi arabia i haven't said it's a right wing conspiracy or anybody's conspiracy. own al-jazeera. russia and ukraine crashed off the coast of crimea shots fired in the black sea three ukrainian navy boats a seized and sailors taken as prisoners russia is accused of military aggression this crisis be contained escalate further this is inside story.

hello welcome to the program i'm adrian finnegan a military confrontation between russia and ukraine has raised fears of a new and dangerous crisis relations between the countries a still role after russia annexed crimea four years ago and moscow has since been backing pro russia separatists in eastern ukraine where fighting continues sunday's incident in the black sea could spark a wide a clue. conflict a russian coast guard ship rammed the ukrainian navy tug and opened fire on two other ships several ukrainian sailors were wounded and more than twenty were taken prisoner the confrontation happened in the curch straits off the coast of crimea russia says the ukrainian naval vessels entered its waters illegally despite a treaty which guarantees freedom of navigation ukraine calls is an act of aggression and has put its military into combat readiness but presidents petro

poroshenko says that ukraine doesn't plan to fight anyone. martial law is introduced in order to strengthen ukraine's defense capabilities amid increasing aggression and according to international law duty cold act of aggression by the russian federation martial law does not mean our refusal to resolve the issue of liberating ukrainian territory by political and diplomatic means we have intentions to keep at hearing to all international obligations including the minsk agreement from others there as worry challenges following the situation from moscow. well with russia on blocking the straits it does seem that moscow is trying to draw down the temperature of this crisis at least when it comes to the possibility of further military clashes but you know the political and the diplomatic reverberations of this are still continuing this has been the worst

engagement between russian and ukrainian military since the dark days of two thousand and fourteen and two thousand and fifteen the annexation of crimea and the worst of the fighting in eastern ukraine. so that we have a situation where you crane is calling for a u.n. security council meeting it's getting that later on monday and it is also considering in its parliament the imposition of martial law this would have numerous impacts on the ukrainian body politic it would mean that you can hold elections we do have press the presidential elections actually coming up shuttle for the end of march you can't change a constitution under martial law you can't remove senior politicians including the president you can't hold political rallies circular of the russian foreign minister is making much of this they're saying that that suggests that this whole thing was orchestrated by ukraine as a kind of provocation to allow petro poroshenko who's polling figures are not

particularly good at the moment to consolidate his control over the country now ukraine of course is saying that this was all along a blatant act of aggression by russia russia has impounded ukrainian ships it has in its custody ukrainian military personnel it blocks ukrainian access to the as all see which ukraine has a coastline on so you know there by agreement russia and ukraine share access to that body of water and ukraine is hoping that it can get as much support as possible from its international friends partners people in the united nations people in. people in the european union to back it up a century on this side against russia chalons for inside story in moscow so what's the background to this latest escalation will occur straight is an important trade route for ukraine as it gives ships access to the port of mali a pole in the sea of as of east of crimea russia's been inspecting all vessels

going in and out of ukrainian ports on sunday it blocks the shipping route between the black sea in the sea of as off by placing a tanker beneath a new bridge linking russia with crimea the crimean peninsula was seized in twenty fourteen by russian backed separatists after the overthrow of ukraine's president viktor yushchenko bitch more than ten thousand people died in the fighting that followed between ukrainian and pro russian forces. all right let's bring in our panel for today joining us from moscow is grandison professor of international relations at the high school of economics in moscow from the hague via skype tell us cause you're ukraine expert and author of putin's war against ukraine and from a chilly here mikhail oh well esky associate professor of the department of sociology and business school at the national university of kill or the hyla

academy welcome gentlemen let's start with you glenn how dangerous a situation is this could it spiral out of control as either side prepared to escalate this. well the comfort conflict could become very dangerous quiet fast however i think it should be under control i think that there was some incentives especially from the ukrainian side to elevate tensions a little bit in order to i would argue create a provocation for a bit of an international incident however i think that a broader conflict with russia would not be in ukraine's interest. and now on the same side i don't think russia has any interest either to see this conflict escalate so it's so i think it can be contained i think will be more used to ramp up pressure against russia. i would expect both the british and americans especially to follow up on this issue tell us in the hague what's really going on here is this russian aggression unfinished business political move or maneuvering

by ukraine's president i find it incredible that our guest for most goes already blamed ukraine for this military aggression movie seats in the video clips that he's a russian ship that hit the ukrainian not the other way around but there are i think two two two three reasons for this the for this incident first of all russian leaders including what you know to poutine. very afraid of developments in ukraine because really creating slipping out from that control russian soft power russian influence in ukraine is practically collapsed since two thousand and fourteen and the latest example of that is the drive to have independence for the ukraine not stop shirt from the russian orthodox church this was so severely seen in moscow that they called a meeting of the russian security council secondly they are desperate to try to undermine president petro poroshenko because he they see putting sees the push on

course the only one with whom they cannot do a deal on the eastern ukraine and it's because of that that they want to try to undermine him with the upcoming elections in march of next year they're going to do the opposite they're going to actually probably make can be like that but that's always russia's case that they don't understand ukraine so i think there's more going on here then the mate so young it's not just a quick case of all russia made a kind of a mistake russia is seeing ukraine slip away and russian leaders are angry they don't know what to do about it well let's put that straight back to glenn glenn is russia trying to undermine petro poroshenko ahead of ukraine's presidential election. no. already polling quite poorly i think the people who would vote for him now is in the single digits so he's far from the favorite and if anything i think this crisis would help him to rise up the polls even possibly now establishing martial law. setting it to

favor himself or at least to boost his own popularity indure ting's so i see this as being favoring his presidency rather than undermining it by showing him that he's able to stand up against russia and also getting the support of the americans and the british i would point out however that it's not really clear what has happened so far. all we know is that. the laws which are supposed to determine who who can control this water says of course linked to the sovereignty of crimea now given that russia considers crimea to be part of russian territory and ukraine believes as part of ukraine they will both refer to the un convention on the law of the sea in order to claim a right of the territorial waters now luckily we have the two thousand and three agreement which establishes how this should behave themselves in this waters and the rules are that they have to report to port in the crimean port of curch

and get permission to the russian argument is that the ukrainian vessels which were sent in did not follow this rules and for this reason they were intercepted and the ukrainians sent and warships immediately so from their perspective they argue that this was a provocation however we simply at this point don't know the russians have said that they will release the tapes and the evidence however in the west it appears that both government and western media has already laid the verdict and almost as the nature of law instinctively blames russia whenever there is a crisis between ukraine or any other country in russia so i think for the real evidence we have to wait and see though the cato. crane said that it had given advance notice of the route being taken by its vessels russia says ukraine didn't notify the bit of violence and that the vessels were never gauging in a dangerous man a clash was engineer to create

a sense of crisis to support the president in kiev who's telling the truth. you know what at the end of the day russia has lost all credibility with respect to telling the truth and most viewers of yours unfortunately are probably forgotten now we have an ongoing war with russia the last four years four years we've had daily artillery attacks we've had daily attacks by tanks we've had daily sniper fire we've had daily casualties and daily deaths unfortunately that's left the news and now suddenly we have this naval incident and it's going back into the news of course that makes sense because even the fact that ukraine has finally reacted in such a way that it brings out into the into the open what in fact is the reality and the reality is that there is a war and that russia is the aggressor. that there are. two hours ago submitted a decree to parliament declaring martial law parliament will be in session in approximately half an hour and i would expect that there's going to be

a lot of discussion tonight as to that law on basically a war measures act but ukraine is currently in a state of mobilization and it has been for the last four years but in reality what we now have is we have a i guess a legal recognition of the reality of four and a half years of war now that four and a half years of war has been quite successful from the ukrainian standpoint meaning that we've only lost seven percent of our territory but nevertheless daily casualties and over ten thousand dead this is just one more episode in that saga became of president bush who says that that the two ports on the coast of the sea of as a key to ukraine's economy why is that. well it's not just those two ports it's generally access to the sea which is key to the crane's key to ukraine's economy was obviously is important but those two ports are key for access to exporting of metal a little bit of grain also but primarily it's the metallurgical industry of the

southeast so we're looking at iron steel various other faires various metal. aggregates that are being that are being exported from the from the port of money you put it and the port of new both of those being rather important and for the last three weeks russia has been harassing ukrainian ships going into that into those ports asking them for additional permissions to go through carriage and in fact has been delaying for days up to. transit and shipments and as a result of that. i mean trade is suffering and in a scenario where the ukrainian economy is not exactly in the greatest shape anyway it's better than it was four years ago but nevertheless still recovering those types of delay tactics are obviously seen as very very very aggressive on the ukrainian side and and quite frankly now we've had an explanation from the from the russians to capture actually three warships of the ukrainian navy. given

the political and military pressures in pinch point between russia and crimea one has to wonder why on earth this hasn't happened before now. well. my previous colleague did mention that this is basically an unresolved issue remember that the two men's agreements in in two thousand and fourteen two thousand and fifteen did not include the question of the crimea that was because i'm a reporter and said that the crimea is a done issue it's part of russian territory and therefore the minsk agreements only apply to eastern ukraine and of course he's been lying all along saying russian military not involved and he's in ukraine so it really the as all of secrecy crisis as of yesterday is very much linked to the end result question of the crimea and it was a crisis that was inevitably going to happen why russia has done it now i think that

i still go back to my points about russia is very afraid of this whole problem of ukraine slipping away but also yes of course this crisis is very much likely to help for a friend cause reelection chances but that does not mean to say that putin understands that the one thing we know since two thousand and fourteen is that russia that his people russian elites in moscow do not understand the way ukraine takes and functions they do they think of ukraine as a russian land a russian territory and therefore they don't quite get. the high levels of ukrainian patriotism and they don't understand how. putin had keeps on scoring own goals like in scott and ukraine this is going to be another one of those home goals it's just going to help push and pull but that isn't the intention of course. so

it's it's not likely to end and the west has to really get around the fact that yes we've got the minsk agreements on eastern ukraine but something needs to be done about the whole crimean question as well when i see you say shaking your head there you disagree with what with what taught us a saying. no well i think there's a good explanations why this is happening exactly now that is ten days ago mike compare the u.s. secretary of state met with the foreign minister of ukraine and. report was announced are a statement on the u.s. ukrainian strategic partnership where the u.s. called for solidarity in terms of confronting russia on the shipping routes in in the sea of us all of and only five days ago the british announced that they were also going to set up a stronger presence now in the black sea so again from so i think it was a good time for ukraine to get staged this provocation. and again this i guess the

sentiment in moscow is often a bit misrepresented abroad because when the west backed the coup in two thousand and fourteen there and the russian government took place in ukraine there was indeed huge panic in russia you know all red lines have been broken by the west and there was something really needed to be done fast but if you get the feeling in moscow the sentiments quite different to their interest is to bring tensions down and get a working relationship back on track so i don't see that there is any appetite for for at least instigating any conflict on the russian side and. again if you find in the russian leader until two thousand and fourteen who even argued that crimea should be brought back to russia's sovereignty it did this implement any statements there because it wasn't an issue until you had this western backed coup so i simply don't see any russian interest in this but rather you see this is building up on

the ukraine in the western side that we've got both about both of our guests both the hague and they give shaking their heads rolling their eyes. do you want to come in then. well i mean. i'm sorry this junk western backed coup i was on the on the might done four or five years ago basically every day if it was western backed where's my payout it was in the west and the western backed about it this was a popular uprising against the russian backed corrupt crook and and supposin president but i mean at the end of the day who attacked ukraine why is it that you know you're calling it a ukrainian provocation ukraine has lost territory it is russia that invaded ukraine in crimea it is russia that has invaded the don't vos it is not ukraine that is invading invading russia it's your it's

a case of blaming the victim and this is a classic russian excuse me kremlin propaganda ploy where we were going to blame ukraine for the fact that now we have three ukrainian vessels that are held by force by russian forces and we have twenty five ukrainian naval officers that are currently in jail six of which happen to be. seriously wounded from russian military fire this has nothing to do with a provocation from ukraine professor decent in moscow to what a joy to reply to that. no i i think that the blame lies more in in washington in terms of a staging this. could happen no i don't agree i don't disagree that there was a popular uprising but i have to see what the voting patterson new korean war if you look at for two thousand and four election for example did or two thousand and ten when in the eastern regions you had over ninety percent voting for the pro

western option and in the furthest western region you had over ninety percent voting for the russian. russian counted so at the end of the day. you know people rising up in the east one thing. i'm saying this is a question of ninety percent voting on we decided so unbelievably simplistic i mean you know you know is that i mean what i'm saying and i'm in britain. today we have a different opinion i mean come on. you know i mean i'm saying that under it under president. hello carry on those are under president then of course which there was some other president democrat which there was an effort in order to. to balance these two interests between population in the west to one of the greater freedom away from russia and population in the east wanted to be closer

to russia and especially the compromise was to integrate closer with both the east and the west what i'm arguing is that unconstitutional coup that happens in the ukraine it's backed by the west it had a purpose that is here it was a popular uprising against the cry government i didn't get much hijacked and i want to get a suit and i want to get down in this in this single this one particular issue here you know you've been sitting there rolling your eyes for the last five minutes please don't you think. i want to walk you want to get a question tell us as well. does this have anything to do with the split between the ukrainian and russian russian orthodox churches is does that come into this this at all. yes of course because it's the sort of jewel in the crown in the collapse of russian soft power russian influence in ukraine. the whole

problem that russia has today is that russian policies towards ukraine russian aggression towards ukraine has undermined that's of power it's rebounded to back against putin and so for example today our next year's elections no progress in candor that could can win and even get to the second round and no progress from party can win a majority in the ukrainian parliament why because sixteen percent of ukrainian voters twenty seven election districts are under russian occupation in the dumb bastard and crimea that's putting one's fault so putin's own own policies towards ukraine are preventing what he would like to happen in ukraine which is pro russian people. coming back to power so he's very frustrated with the way ukraine is going to play with poroshenko was perfectly initiating the including of nato and even membership in the ukrainian constitution constitution but change

since for that and the question of the over the this is an explosion from moscow this is an earthquake from moscow the ukrainian ukrainian also ducks parishes represent a third of the total of russian orthodox parishes russia loses a third of its parishes and also loses very important historically religious objectively like the mothership the case sense of fear has cathedral in kiev it loses its kind of power and influence in the also ducks world and and it's it's a step forward for ukrainian spiritual independence from moscow because the new ukrainian also got shirts which will be set up next month. will be of course not pro russia will be pro european and so all of this creates a real concerns in moscow that things in ukraine are not going its own way or i just want finals on the question of all the crimea wasn't an issue until two

thousand and fourteen i'm sorry but my colleague in moscow is obviously somebody also doesn't understand ukraine doesn't know ukraine history and throughout the one nine hundred ninety s. never mind of the putin under boris yeltsin the russian parliament both houses of the russian parliament. a territorial claims rights the crimea and against about this has been going on for thirty years very briefly glenn do you want to respond to that. well there if this is a reference that in one thousand nine hundred ninety ninety seven agreement it's worth noting that the blue cross agreement also suggested. the u.s. britain and russia would all respect their political autonomy while this the territorial integrity of ukraine so i guess after the coup in two thousand and fourteen there was an interest that well this was considered to be broken by russia as well now i do agree though that this conflict us two dimensions on one hand you have two different identities so well broadly to

a dentist in ukraine there which never really harmonized which is why the country has been so divided in terms of how it explains its close relations with russia i mean how fast the country out of the country arguing that this is. purely relink others arguing that they're essentially been historical brothers the same people so it is a conflict which has been taken over by foreign powers and i'm sorry i've got to interrupt you there we're out of time many thanks indeed gentlemen for being with us professor glen decent of moscow told us you know in the hague and mikhail oh that is key in a very chilly here and thank you for watching don't forget you can see the program any time just by visiting our website at al-jazeera dot com for further discussion join us on our facebook page at facebook dot com forward slash a.j. inside story you can also join the conversation on twitter i handle at a.j. inside story for me adrian finnegan for the whole team here it oh thanks for watching c n n

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filed a legal complaint in argentina to attend the g. twenty summit over alleged war crimes committed by saudi forces in yemen in tunis where he's due to land on tuesday activists are asking the courts there to stop him from entering the country. reports from the capital tunis. first stop him have been some man's regional tour was to his closest ally mohammed bin zayed crown prince of the united arab emirates his saudi counterpart eager to show that it's business as usual for him and that he hasn't been affected by the fallout from the murder of jamal khashoggi bin sandman is also visiting behind and egypt as part of his trip both countries have close ties with riyadh so close they are seen by many to be excessively controlled by the saudis no surprise then that he was welcomed with open arms but in tunisia the birthplace of the so-called arab spring a different type of welcome awaits the prince to newseum protesters angry that

their government is welcoming the man widely believed to be responsible for the murder of journalist jamal khashoggi on the eve of his expected arrival the journalist union together with a dozen or so civil society groups held a press conference denouncing the visit and holding on to new zealand's to take part in protests nationwide among them the head of the tunisian national union of students to solve the real for the tunisian people reject hosting someone who continues to kill and commit crimes against humanity in yemen we reject welcoming a man who continues to crack down on basic human rights. human rights groups and activists say that the proposed visit is an attempt to legitimize the crown prince and whitewash his crimes something they say must not be allowed to happen now been said men want to continue here just to give an idea that to be accepted by the people to show that he is welcomed everywhere he goes and i think the position of

the tunisian government the position of civil society sorry does show that. if is welcomed by the government that in a civil society refuses that. we approached several politicians and m.p.'s to find any who openly support the visit but none wanted to appear on camera possibly because it appears the popular opinion is so against welcoming this saudi royal. item or had be we shouldn't be welcoming him if it were up to me i wouldn't let him into my country and the people who are against him he's coming to to nydia to clean his image as they are going out of just me i am i don't know why this visit is happening he said for economic reasons i don't know but i'm against it to new suit not side with this man this part of the popular opposition to the crown prince's visit the fact that he is being hosted by the president of tunisia is symbolic a message that the crown prince is still very much in power and that it continues to pursue its policies across the region especially in the countries of the

so-called arab spring. tourists well the crown prince is also expected to travel to argentina for the g twenty summit human rights watch has filed a submission with the courts and when desirous calling for him to be held accountable for suspected war crimes by saudi forces in yemen sarah leah whitson who's the organization's executive director for the middle east and north africa says prosecutors are looking closely at this mission. it is up to the prosecutor to do to decide how to proceed with this investigation we are very hopeful there he will do a very careful and thorough examination of the facts of the evidence that has been presented not only of course by human rights watch but by various organs of the united nations including the panel of experts at the security council including the investigative commissions appointed by the un human rights council human clued in by the un high commissioner for human rights which have repeatedly found that the

saudi led coalition has committed grave violations of international monitoring many of which very strongly couldn't mount to work rhymes for that reason alone there's an extremely strong basis for argentino to closely examine a very broad record of documentation and facts in this regard if they are fortunate enough to have the crown prince visiting them the international community people around the world are desperate to see real accountability of people who are getting away with terrible crimes and this is a great opportunity for the argentinean people to stand as leaders in the world to show that they will not go let crimes like this go unpunished that they will seriously investigate them and prosecute them if possible well meanwhile u.s. media reporting donald trump son in law pushed a department of defense officials to inflates the value of arms deals with saudi

arabia to increase their perceived importance a.b.c. news says jerry cousineau successfully had a fifteen billion dollars deal recategorized as being worth one hundred ten billion is for a presidential visit to riyadh in may of twenty seventeen has not yet been fulfilled leading democrats say they will investigate the from families links to saudi arabia . ukraine's parliament has approved thirty days of martial law in response to a naval confrontation with russia in the black sea russian forces opened fire on a number of ukrainian ships then seize three vessels the international response has been swift and strong or simmons has that story from kiev. at every level the outrage over russia's actions in capturing three boats and more disturbingly for ukraine twenty three sailors some of whom were injured isn't coming down quite the reverse ukraine's parliament debated martial law for several hours it was approved

by a large majority president petro poroshenko says it will start from wednesday not a declaration of war he says more remains of bolstering defenses against aggression from russia but the martial law will be national applying only to coastal areas and regions bordering russia it will last thirty days my more. we have to reinforce our defense immediately so we can quickly react and mobilize all resources in case of an invasion of. pershing co has managed to placate opponents who believes that martial law is going to give him a big advantage by limiting political activity in the run up to the presidential elections at the end of march next year right now his popularity is low although there is a long list of world leaders who are giving his support over this crisis. nato is demanding the immediate release of the ukrainian prisoners held by russia with this

warning so their shaha standard stands that its actions have consequences and that's the reason why nato has reacted so firmly against the actions of russia against ukraine over several years and in the u.n. more condemnation of russia we strongly support ukraine's sovereignty and territorial integrity within its internationally recognized borders extending to its territorial waters we express our deep concern over the incident which represent a dangerous escalation and violation of international law russia may have rammed one ukrainian boats opening fire on a total of three vessels injuring sailors detaining all crew and yet it continues to accuse ukraine's president is standing for reelection next year of deliberate provocation but as a means of the use of this banditry must be curbed and the international community

must understand what ukraine is doing we would urge our partners in the security council not to shoulder responsibility for the dangerous conduct of the ukrainian authorities while the current strait may be calmer now the combination of ukrainian anger and tension hasn't eased andrew simmons al-jazeera. well russia's foreign minister says ukraine violated international law by sending its naval vessels through the strait without permission he says the crisis is a move by the president petro poroshenko to shore up a declining popularity for him and bring more sanctions against moscow. it may be that while ukraine was planning the provocation and no one has any doubt this was done with the good will and probably a direct order from the highest leaderships they were counting on additional benefits they wanted to get out of this situation first of all they were counting on the fact that the u.s. and europe as many ways recklessly take the side of the provocative words. or

a challenge joining us live this hour from moscow rory questions being asked about how far mr poroshenko might go with this. yeah well i think for petro poroshenko looking at the the aftermath of the weekend's altercations and the diplomatic activity since then. i think feel sort of i think some way content with how things have gone although there are significant causes for concern for him both domestically and internationally so domestically he got his martial law through parliament but see have to chop it down significantly to save face really and get it through it was in originally intended to be a sixty days period of martial law it's now thirty days it was initially intended to be nationwide but it's actually it's now only applying to ten regions from syria maritime parts of the country internationally yes the un

security council they went with the ukrainian agenda for the meeting rather than the russian agenda there was condemnation of russia's activity except for that will be a boost for petro poroshenko but there was also comments from the united states that . crane had a role to play in reducing tensions and i think you know ukrainians looking acts what's coming out of the white house of the moment will certainly get the impression that donald trump isn't really that interested in this whole affair he hasn't commented much on it when he spoke yesterday he said we don't like what's happening either way we don't like what's happening i hope it will get straightened out so not much commitment there from the u.s. presidents and is this a reminder laurie that tensions between these two countries never really go away.